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2012-12-28 11:34:26 AM  

grimlaf: some_beer_drinker: the only way to get some is to stick your hand in a fish pussy. got it.

you say that like it's a bad thing...


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"Rwor"
 
2012-12-28 11:36:57 AM  
I milk salmon for a living, so I'm not impressed with this article.

/not really
 
2012-12-28 11:38:03 AM  
They used to used the roe for pig food and engine lubricant, it was only after they became rare and marketers made up a bunch of crap that now they're so expensive. I'm just glad they've started faming them, since wild stocks are so depleted. Hope they let some go to replenish their numbers.
 
2012-12-28 11:40:18 AM  
Caviar is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, caviar-kabobs, caviar creole, caviar gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple caviar, lemon caviar, coconut caviar, pepper caviar, caviar soup, caviar stew, caviar salad, caviar and potatoes, caviar burger, caviar sandwich

And you can have mine.
 
2012-12-28 11:44:40 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Knowing what it is and where it comes from only makes me think it's worth even less.  I will never understand people that intentionally eat fish eggs and organisms that feed on decomposing organic matter.


Your words have a familiar ring to me as I've also been mocked online by sniffy vegetarians for eating decomposing animal carcass and drinking pus-filled cow discharge. Oh well, more for me!

I like fish eggs. Caviar is a rare treat, but I often buy 烏魚子 (mullet fish roe, or bottarga) from Taiwan. I hardly ever get a truffle, but boy do I eat lots of mushrooms - the common button, bella, shiatake, enoki, little wood mushrooms...

My culinary world would be smaller and sadder without these ingredients. Fish eggs aside, imagine how poor our cuisine would be without other "decomposed" things like wine (rotted grapejuice) and cheese (rotten milk)!
 
2012-12-28 11:51:10 AM  

Soymilk: Fish eggs aside, imagine how poor our cuisine would be without other "decomposed" things like wine (rotted grapejuice) and cheese (rotten milk)!


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2012-12-28 11:55:24 AM  
Jeez, now I want some osetra...but I am in Alabama, and I don't think I want ANYTHING out of the Tennessee river!

And I like trash fish, too. And anchovies are your pal. Out of the tube and into the sauce, or still kicking and put on the grill - yes, please.

/and feel free to use 'out of the tube and into the sauce'....
 
2012-12-28 11:56:27 AM  

bagumpity: Soymilk: Fish eggs aside, imagine how poor our cuisine would be without other "decomposed" things like wine (rotted grapejuice) and cheese (rotten milk)!

imokwiththis.jpg


Even without beer (rotted grains), vodka (rotted potatoes), whiskey (more rotted grain), and even tea (moderately rotted leaves)?
 
2012-12-28 12:05:34 PM  
Once on my birthday a friend of mine showed up with a flat of caviar he stole from a chi-chi catering gig he was working at.

That was pretty special.  First and only time I ate caviar with a tablespoon.
 
2012-12-28 12:06:09 PM  

gopher321: And lobster is just an underwater spider.


Lobster sticks to magnet, does spider?  (youtube.com)
 
2012-12-28 12:11:49 PM  

Akabander: HotWingAgenda: Animals don't feed on decomposing matter, except certain scavengers, which no human eats.

Decomposition starts almost immediately after a plant has been harvested. All that feedstock that your hamburger was eating? Decomposing. The grain that your chicken wings grew plump on? Decomposing.

Enjoy your next meal!


Really? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

The grain that the chicken grew fat on whose wings I'm eating was dried, processed feed. If it were actively decomposing (at more than an infinitesimal level) it wouldn't be good to feed chickens.

The grass that the cows eat to turn into tasty burgers is alive when its eaten. As in, growing, which is the opposite of decaying.

If the feed we give animals is degrading, its not super useful, is it? If that silo full of feed is decaying/rotting, the farmer can't use it. If your point is that if it ain't livin', it's dyin', well, sure. In that sense, pennies are "decaying". So is my car.

If you're trying to shock people into thinking that all they're eating is decomposing shiat, it didn't work.
 
2012-12-28 12:18:58 PM  

grinding_journalist: Akabander: HotWingAgenda: Animals don't feed on decomposing matter, except certain scavengers, which no human eats.

Decomposition starts almost immediately after a plant has been harvested. All that feedstock that your hamburger was eating? Decomposing. The grain that your chicken wings grew plump on? Decomposing.

Enjoy your next meal!

Really? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?



That's just his angle.
 
2012-12-28 12:26:53 PM  
Fish eggs ...?

Ptooie Ptooie
 
2012-12-28 12:33:48 PM  

thornhill: What kind have you had? There's an extremely wide continuum where prices range from several dollars per ounce to several hundred dollars per ounce.


I am stealing this and adapting it for more practical use.

You just haven't listened to good dubstep. There's a huge variety of it, from awful to awful.

You just aren't using the right Apple products, you just need to select the one that fits your needs the most. There's a huge variety of them specifically for this purpose, from overpriced to arm and a leg.

You just aren't using the right OS for your needs. There are a huge variety of distros of Windows, from abysmal to Windows 2000.

/wheee
 
2012-12-28 12:35:29 PM  
Article uses term like "roe" for eggs, like everyone is aware that is a different term.
Article then uses the term again, and when it is obvious to most people capable of reading English,
gives the definition.

What a prick.
 
2012-12-28 12:38:42 PM  

gopher321: And lobster is just an underwater spider.

Think on that.


I prefer to think of it as a delicious giant fighting sea cricket.

As for caviar, eating the eggs of something is bound to make it rare, no?
 
2012-12-28 12:59:41 PM  
I hardly ever get a truffle

Meh,... no one knows the truffles I've seen...
 
2012-12-28 01:10:00 PM  

Citrate1007: Most people who like caviar only do so because it makes them feel sophisticated it has nothing to do about taste.


When I think of caviar, I think of the episode of Batman where the Catwoman was eating caviar with a spoon, out of a gallon-sized jar.
 
2012-12-28 01:11:19 PM  
Thursday Next lost.

/too obscure?
 
2012-12-28 01:11:22 PM  

Akabander: HotWingAgenda: Animals don't feed on decomposing matter, except certain scavengers, which no human eats.

Decomposition starts almost immediately after a plant has been harvested. All that feedstock that your hamburger was eating? Decomposing. The grain that your chicken wings grew plump on? Decomposing.

Enjoy your next meal!


Did you mention that the meal was decomposing too?
 
2012-12-28 01:35:52 PM  

maverickzy: This article is wrong. It's not expensive because it's harvested by hand. It's expensive, at least Russian & Co. caviar, because the Russian government has an artificial scarcity policy in place. When I lived there as a kid we used to eat it regularly, and we were poor.


Indeed. ALL roe is harvested pretty much the same way, but you can get all the salmon roe sushi you want at any Chinese buffet around here. Caviar is just a name brand, nothing more nothing less.

grinding_journalist: Really? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?


You sound awfully defensive about someone pointing out a basic biological fact about biology, which most of us can accept and shrug off, understanding things like stages of decomposition. And incredibly stupid for lumping pennies and your car into a biology term.

/Even when we're alive we're continually decomposing, but we're also continually regenerating.
 
2012-12-28 01:36:58 PM  
The Communists were all f'ed up in most ways, but they had the caviar industry pretty well run---mainly because thery were too stupid to overexploit.

As soon as they collapsed, it was no longer punishable by 3 years in the Gulag for taking a single fish, so people started catching sturgeon by the thousands. In a short time there was a glut, followed by a crash in the market and widespread shortages.

South Atlantic speckled trout yields a pretty good substitute for caviar.
 
2012-12-28 01:51:54 PM  

foxyshadis: grinding_journalist: Really? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

You sound awfully defensive about someone pointing out a basic biological fact about biology, which most of us can accept and shrug off, understanding things like stages of decomposition. And incredibly stupid for lumping pennies and your car into a biology term.

/Even when we're alive we're continually decomposing, but we're also continually regenerating.


I'm thinking you missed the point of their post- they were suggesting that because "everything" decomposes, everything we eat is essentially shiat.

Basic biological fact that things decompose? Yes, I'm aware, I completed third grade. I don't extrapolate that to "feed is dead, therefore it's decomposing, therefore chickens eat shiat, therefore you eat shiat for every meal."

I was commenting on how ridiculous this extrapolation was, and highlighted that by suggesting that the same terms, in the sense that they utilized, that "everything" is constantly decomposing, as in, it's not alive an constantly regenerating, as you pointed out.

It's ok though, people miss the point of my posts all the time, as I frequently assume people are more savvy than they actually are. My fault for not pandering to the lowest common denominator.
 
2012-12-28 02:20:26 PM  

Soymilk: I hardly ever get a truffle, but boy do I eat lots of mushrooms



If you danced you might get more truffles.

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2012-12-28 02:45:42 PM  

grinding_journalist: Akabander: HotWingAgenda: Animals don't feed on decomposing matter, except certain scavengers, which no human eats.

Decomposition starts almost immediately after a plant has been harvested. All that feedstock that your hamburger was eating? Decomposing. The grain that your chicken wings grew plump on? Decomposing.

Enjoy your next meal!

Really? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

The grain that the chicken grew fat on whose wings I'm eating was dried, processed feed. If it were actively decomposing (at more than an infinitesimal level) it wouldn't be good to feed chickens.

The grass that the cows eat to turn into tasty burgers is alive when its eaten. As in, growing, which is the opposite of decaying.

If the feed we give animals is degrading, its not super useful, is it? If that silo full of feed is decaying/rotting, the farmer can't use it. If your point is that if it ain't livin', it's dyin', well, sure. In that sense, pennies are "decaying". So is my car.

If you're trying to shock people into thinking that all they're eating is decomposing shiat, it didn't work.


How is digesting different from decomposing?
 
2012-12-28 02:54:21 PM  

gopher321: And lobster is just an underwater spider.

Think on that.


What, because they're both arthropods? Cows and fish are both chordates, do they taste the same?

Taxonomically the cow and the fish are actually more closely related.
 
2012-12-28 03:00:04 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Caviar comes from the virgin sturgeon

/do you have any IDEA how horny male sturgeon are?
//lets just say the species hasn't survived for millions of years for no reason


The virgin sturgeon are the ugly fish...and once they are harvested, they are taken to the stabbin cabin where their eggs are squeezed out.

It seems like a "tough roe for the ho"...
 
2012-12-28 03:03:56 PM  

grinding_journalist: I'm thinking you missed the point of their post- they were suggesting that because "everything" decomposes, everything we eat is essentially shiat.


Thanks for interpreting my post for me, but you're talking out your ass. My point was indeed that everything decomposes, and most biological matter that is not regenerating is, indeed, decomposing. I consider shiat to be a product of digestion. I guess you could mean "microbial shiat", but you seem to be quite fecally obsessed, so I'm not sure.

Basic biological fact that things decompose? Yes, I'm aware, I completed third grade. I don't extrapolate that to "feed is dead, therefore it's decomposing, therefore chickens eat shiat, therefore you eat shiat for every meal."

That wasn't my point either. But if you want, I could explain that the chicken you are having for dinner is decomposing right now, even if you have it sealed in plastic in your refrigerator. That doesn't mean it is shiat.

It's ok though, people miss the point of my posts all the time, as I frequently assume people are more savvy than they actually are. My fault for not pandering to the lowest common denominator.

You managed to miss several points, and your fascination with shiat is really weird.

/The German pr0n is over that-a-way.
 
2012-12-28 03:09:27 PM  

bump: I hardly ever get a truffle

Meh,... no one knows the truffles I've seen...


Nobody knows my sorrels.
 
2012-12-28 03:10:31 PM  
On further reflection, it could be that grinding_journalist's problem is that he listened a little too well to his mother, and believes "You are what you eat" to be literally true.
 
2012-12-28 03:31:32 PM  
"Caviar is the roe of the sturgeon,"

Annnnd fail. Caviar can come from a sturgeon, but can also come from other fish. Caviar =/= always sturgeon roe. You could also get salmon or whitefish or trout, it's just that they're far cheaper. It's basically just fish roe, you just think about sturgeons most of the time since they're the freakishly expensive ones.
 
2012-12-28 03:53:11 PM  

Iczer: "Caviar is the roe of the sturgeon,"

Annnnd fail. Caviar can come from a sturgeon, but can also come from other fish. Caviar =/= always sturgeon roe. You could also get salmon or whitefish or trout, it's just that they're far cheaper. It's basically just fish roe, you just think about sturgeons most of the time since they're the freakishly expensive ones.


But in common usage, does not 'caviar' usually denote sturgeon roe? When I see salmon or trout roe in shops they're usually labeled Salmon Caviar or Trout Caviar.
 
2012-12-28 03:56:53 PM  

Soymilk: Iczer: "Caviar is the roe of the sturgeon,"

Annnnd fail. Caviar can come from a sturgeon, but can also come from other fish. Caviar =/= always sturgeon roe. You could also get salmon or whitefish or trout, it's just that they're far cheaper. It's basically just fish roe, you just think about sturgeons most of the time since they're the freakishly expensive ones.

But in common usage, does not 'caviar' usually denote sturgeon roe? When I see salmon or trout roe in shops they're usually labeled Salmon Caviar or Trout Caviar.


That's just because sturgeon roe is that much more famous. If it were to actually mean "sturgeon roe", you'd be buying "Salmon Sturgeon Roe" and whatnot.
 
2012-12-28 04:55:02 PM  
I'm one of those I'll try anything once... and I've never had caviar.  I'd like to try it.

And I do like anchovies.
 
2012-12-28 05:57:14 PM  

downstairs: I'm one of those I'll try anything once... and I've never had caviar.  I'd like to try it.

And I do like anchovies.


Fish eggs taste like fish x 100 times. You need to really like fish to like their eggs.
 
2012-12-28 05:57:43 PM  

Iczer: Soymilk: Iczer: "Caviar is the roe of the sturgeon,"

Annnnd fail. Caviar can come from a sturgeon, but can also come from other fish. Caviar =/= always sturgeon roe. You could also get salmon or whitefish or trout, it's just that they're far cheaper. It's basically just fish roe, you just think about sturgeons most of the time since they're the freakishly expensive ones.

But in common usage, does not 'caviar' usually denote sturgeon roe? When I see salmon or trout roe in shops they're usually labeled Salmon Caviar or Trout Caviar.

That's just because sturgeon roe is that much more famous. If it were to actually mean "sturgeon roe", you'd be buying "Salmon Sturgeon Roe" and whatnot.


wat
 
2012-12-29 12:48:18 AM  
I like caviar. Russian father, so I guess it comes with the territory. My favorite ways to have them are on top of duck fat latkes with creme fraishe, or floated with a splash of sherry on top of a nice lobster or shrimp bisque. It is also delectable on top of a runny poached egg topping a nice country salad, I know some people love it atop quail's eggs, but I've never been much of a fan of quail eggs. I'm hungry, and those things are pretty freaking small.

As for anchovies, I adore them. Fresh or preserved, those little suckers are delicious. From homemade ceasar dressing, to adding a couple to my pasta or pizza sauce, to gutted and grilled head on packed with herbs and then sprinkled with crunchy sea salt and drizzled in a fruity green extra virgin olive oil, those little puppies are delectable.
 
2012-12-29 04:38:04 AM  
Yeah I never understood how people couldn't savour those weird salty items like fish eggs or anchovies. Strong tastes are natures way Of saying slow down and savour your food you glutton.
 
2012-12-29 01:08:32 PM  

Elvis_Bogart: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Caviar comes from the virgin sturgeon

You know...The Virgin Sturgeon would be a great name for a pro wrestler.


Big Grin
 
2012-12-29 05:16:24 PM  

redslippers: I like caviar. Russian father, so I guess it comes with the territory. My favorite ways to have them are on top of duck fat latkes with creme fraishe, or floated with a splash of sherry on top of a nice lobster or shrimp bisque. It is also delectable on top of a runny poached egg topping a nice country salad, I know some people love it atop quail's eggs, but I've never been much of a fan of quail eggs. I'm hungry, and those things are pretty freaking small.

As for anchovies, I adore them. Fresh or preserved, those little suckers are delicious. From homemade ceasar dressing, to adding a couple to my pasta or pizza sauce, to gutted and grilled head on packed with herbs and then sprinkled with crunchy sea salt and drizzled in a fruity green extra virgin olive oil, those little puppies are delectable.


After 4-8 shots of Vodak, the stuff isn't so bad.
Even Bond, James Bond, had to martini it up w/ his.
 
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