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2012-12-28 11:16:41 AM
t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-28 11:34:26 AM
An ex was a complete sucker for all these from the thighmaster to the shakeweight.  All gathering dust.  I much prefer the gym, where I must arrive shortly.  Like not in half an hour, maybe a little sooner.
 
2012-12-28 11:40:02 AM
But they fit right under you bed.
 
2012-12-28 11:43:35 AM
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2012-12-28 11:45:00 AM
I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees
 
2012-12-28 11:45:29 AM

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THIGH-MASTER with OPTIONAL SUZANNE SOMERS
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I'll still pay postage on her.
 
2012-12-28 11:47:14 AM
fem-fatl.com

This is one that works as advertised.
 
2012-12-28 11:48:04 AM
This works. Kicks your ass, too, even if you are in shape to start out. Worked for me.

www.brinkleys.org
 
2012-12-28 11:49:11 AM

kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.).


I liked Insanity, but hated P90X. I got a great workout with Insanity and felt I was accomplishing something but the P90X guy was such a douche I had a hard time watching the DVDs. At least on the Insanity DVDs you saw the people in the class collapsing and struggling just like you.
P90X were all douches, out flexing each other and challenging each other (You're gonna do 10 reps?? Well, then, I'm gonna do 12!!!)

I do CrossFit now and found Insanity (somewhat) prepared me for that type of workout
 
2012-12-28 11:49:20 AM
You mean to tell me stuff sold infomercials don't work how they're advertised? OH GOD MY WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN A LIE.
 
2012-12-28 11:49:39 AM
Workout equipment and programs are good for the following

1. They get you motivated-Buying into the promises or marketing can get you excited about working out, which is critical
2. The good ones offer a balance of activities-A good system or tool will help you exercize your entire body, not just one body part
3. They help improve form to improve effectiveness and reduce injury
4. They offer a guideline or template to structure your workout.

All of these goals can also be met with no-cost, body weight only exorcizes that require no equipment. But if a popular system or piece of equipment will get you motivated, it is entirely worth it.

Most people lose their momentum when they find out that no matter the system, no matter the equipment, exercise is still hard work if it is going to be effective.
 
2012-12-28 11:51:11 AM

kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees


My girlfriend went from a little doughy to rock solid in about 45 days and now she's built like a swimsuit model and still does Insanity every morning.
 
2012-12-28 11:52:04 AM
P90x is worth it is you have the willpower for 90 days. Extra credit for sticking to the diet plan.

/Lets do some huggies.
 
2012-12-28 11:52:31 AM
I do love watching the commercials when I have insomnia though. It's great watching people completely baffled by minor task. Like trying to eat soup with a fork or trying to shave with a playing card.
 
2012-12-28 11:53:11 AM
FITNESS DICK WAVING THREAD

/I'm  fan of the keyboard abdominals, cubical scaling, coffee pot curls, long commute road rage workout system
 
2012-12-28 11:53:39 AM

DmGdDawg: [fem-fatl.com image 850x455]

This is one that works as advertised.


Oh, she's definitely in on it.
 
2012-12-28 11:57:37 AM

buntz: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.).

I liked Insanity, but hated P90X. I got a great workout with Insanity and felt I was accomplishing something but the P90X guy was such a douche I had a hard time watching the DVDs. At least on the Insanity DVDs you saw the people in the class collapsing and struggling just like you.
P90X were all douches, out flexing each other and challenging each other (You're gonna do 10 reps?? Well, then, I'm gonna do 12!!!)

I do CrossFit now and found Insanity (somewhat) prepared me for that type of workout


Totally agree about the doucheyness of the people in the DVDs but I could ignore them and concentrate on my own suffering.

What really worked was taking the best of P90X and combining it with running (which I did and already liked) and martial arts (which I also did and already liked).

The good about P90X:
- about 3 dozen different kinds of push-ups and chin-ups. Makes an otherwise boring exercise un-boring.
- Plyometrics (for sheer burning of calories, it's awesome)
- Ab-ripper
- dumbell workouts

The lame:
- The constant fist-bumping
- You will find yourself smacking the next person who utters the phrase "bring it"
 
2012-12-28 11:57:39 AM
Whaddaya mean the Hula Chair is a fake?

www.ok-homeware.com
 
2012-12-28 11:59:59 AM
I've had a lot of luck with this one. Even comes with a diet plan.

img42.imageshack.us

Note: that's me, gym in 26 minutes, etc
 
2012-12-28 12:00:44 PM
But Chuck Norris is a friend of Jesus, he endorses that sliding table, so it must work.
 
2012-12-28 12:01:40 PM
As long as we're making recommendations this book is pretty much all anyone needs to get in shape. No gym, no douchey trainer, and minimal equipment required.

/no, it isn't my book
 
2012-12-28 12:04:37 PM

dj_spanmaster: I've had a lot of luck with this one. Even comes with a diet plan.

[img42.imageshack.us image 500x293]

Note: that's me, gym in 26 minutes, etc


how much was the walker?

/did a double take when i saw the infomercial to make sure it wasn't a spoof.
 
2012-12-28 12:05:29 PM

4tehsnowflakes: An ex was a complete sucker for all these from the thighmaster to the shakeweight.  All gathering dust.  I much prefer the gym, where I must arrive shortly.  Like not in half an hour, maybe a little sooner.


I lold
 
2012-12-28 12:13:43 PM
I raise beef which means hard hard work.

No time to get muscle beach buff, but I guarantee you all them city-pusses who bounce around sweaty and ripped ain't ready to wrangle beef and such. It's a whole different kind of strength.
 
2012-12-28 12:15:26 PM

Clemkadidlefark: I raise beef which means hard hard work.

No time to get muscle beach buff, but I guarantee you all them city-pusses who bounce around sweaty and ripped ain't ready to wrangle beef and such. It's a whole different kind of strength.


I do the same thing and I can do it with one hand.
 
2012-12-28 12:15:49 PM
I had good luck with the Wii Fit. Lost 20 pounds in two months, moved a lot of mass onto my chest. I've been at this weight for four years now, I was stable at 185 for years.

My ex didn't have good luck with it.

I used it every day. She didn't. Hmm. HMMMMMM
 
2012-12-28 12:16:37 PM

Clemkadidlefark: I raise beef which means hard hard work.

No time to get muscle beach buff, but I guarantee you all them city-pusses who bounce around sweaty and ripped ain't ready to wrangle beef and such. It's a whole different kind of strength.


pretty much, look at all of those iron man or strong man competitions. A lot of those guys have guts and no muscle tone, they're just thick as hell.
 
2012-12-28 12:16:45 PM

buntz: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.).

I liked Insanity, but hated P90X. I got a great workout with Insanity and felt I was accomplishing something but the P90X guy was such a douche I had a hard time watching the DVDs. At least on the Insanity DVDs you saw the people in the class collapsing and struggling just like you.
P90X were all douches, out flexing each other and challenging each other (You're gonna do 10 reps?? Well, then, I'm gonna do 12!!!)

I do CrossFit now and found Insanity (somewhat) prepared me for that type of workout


Glad to hear it. Plan to buy insanity
 
2012-12-28 12:18:02 PM
I'm just spit-balling here, but maybe you could just do some situps, pushups, and run/jog/walk. I'm pretty sure that counts as healthy exercise and doesn't cost shipping and handling.
 
2012-12-28 12:21:12 PM

titwrench: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

My girlfriend went from a little doughy to rock solid in about 45 days and now she's built like a swimsuit model and still does Insanity every morning.


Pics or it didn't happen.

/this is Fark, you can't make statements like that here without proof to back it up
 
2012-12-28 12:21:26 PM

stuhayes2010: But Chuck Norris is a friend of Jesus, he endorses that sliding table, so it must work.


Actually the Total Gym is very good from what I have seen. It has also been around since the early 80's, but back then it was something used mostly by kick boxers and other fighters.
 
2012-12-28 12:21:55 PM

theMagni: I had good luck with the Wii Fit


I started with the Wii Fit (from ZERO activity) so it worked pretty well for over a year. But eventually there just wasn't any 'challenge' in the moves. I was able to run on the treadmill during the "free run" part. I eventually graduated from that to Insanity.

Nemo's Brother: Glad to hear it. Plan to buy insanity


To be honest, the only thing that kept me going on Insanity was 2 neighbors were also doing it. We weren't all doing it in the same room, just at the same time. So that was my incentive to keep it up. The daily texts and emails about that days workout.

I tried doing it a 2nd time maybe 6 months later and found myself cutting corners a lot and I gave up. That's what led me to CrossFit. It's the peer pressure and constant support that keep me going.

But everyone is different so YMMV
 
2012-12-28 12:23:31 PM
As someone who works in a store that sells As Seen on TV crap, I am getting a kick out of this.

"Sir, you're going to hurt yourself if you buy this product... That'll be $106.99 please"
 
2012-12-28 12:27:31 PM

kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees


While a punishing workout might show results for a while, you'll never be able to keep it up in the long run.

Fitness isn't a gimic, it's a life style. If you can't commit the next 40 years, you're really just wasting your time.
Get a gym membership. An unlimited membership at 24hr Fitness costs about $30 a month. Unless you're still working a paper route, that's farking nothing.
Don't bother with personal trainers. If you need a babysitter to watch you, you'll never keep it up.
Just listen to your body - it knows what it needs. Anything that is extremely painful or uncomfortable is not doing your body good in the long run. This include lifting overly heavy weights and long distance running (the average lifespan of a marathon runner is less than 60 years).
If what you're after is weight loss, diet is 75% of the battle. Other than that, hit the gym, observe and imitate - and above all, just keep moving (no one ever lost an ounce of fat sitting on a bench between sets).
 
2012-12-28 12:31:19 PM

trippdogg: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

While a punishing workout might show results for a while, you'll never be able to keep it up in the long run.

Fitness isn't a gimic, it's a life style. If you can't commit the next 40 years, you're really just wasting your time.
Get a gym membership. An unlimited membership at 24hr Fitness costs about $30 a month. Unless you're still working a paper route, that's farking nothing.
Don't bother with personal trainers. If you need a babysitter to watch you, you'll never keep it up.
Just listen to your body - it knows what it needs. Anything that is extremely painful or uncomfortable is not doing your body good in the long run. This include lifting overly heavy weights and long distance running (the average lifespan of a marathon runner is less than 60 years).
If what you're after is weight loss, diet is 75% of the battle. Other than that, hit the gym, observe and imitate - and above all, just keep moving (no one ever lost an ounce of fat sitting on a bench between sets).


clatl.com
 
2012-12-28 12:34:17 PM

AxL sANe: This works. Kicks your ass, too, even if you are in shape to start out. Worked for me.

[www.brinkleys.org image 500x500]


You need to step up to Insanity then Insanity Asylum, it makes P90X feel like a warmup routine.
 
2012-12-28 12:35:01 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: titwrench: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

My girlfriend went from a little doughy to rock solid in about 45 days and now she's built like a swimsuit model and still does Insanity every morning.

Pics or it didn't happen.

/this is Fark, you can't make statements like that here without proof to back it up


I'm not falling for that. I wasn't home schooled.
 
2012-12-28 12:35:15 PM
I find it hilarious they gauge the effectiveness by how many calories it burns. Also, P90x sucks, it's great if you want to be mediocre.
 
2012-12-28 12:38:14 PM
P90X? Insanity? Crossfit? I am disappoint.

Deep squats, full range bench and of course deadlifts are the true kings of physique. Need cardio? Run, a lot (never after leg day).
 
2012-12-28 12:40:22 PM

MycroftHolmes:
Most people lose their momentum when they find out that no matter the system, no matter the equipment, exercise is still hard work if it is going to be effective.


The same goes for diet fads. The vast majority of people are more like the 600 pound Mom who died after she blew off the rehab after her lap band surgery, than are not. It takes work to lose weight and get in shape? Fk that!
 
2012-12-28 12:42:54 PM

ggecko: AxL sANe: This works. Kicks your ass, too, even if you are in shape to start out. Worked for me.

[www.brinkleys.org image 500x500]

You need to step up to Insanity then Insanity Asylum, it makes P90X feel like a warmup routine.


I may give that a try. Doing P90X2 right now and it's a challenge - much different from the original P90X.
 
2012-12-28 12:43:03 PM
I despise INFOMERCIALS!

Overprice krap which is over-hyped by professional pitchmen and women, whose whole goal in life is to sell you shiat and make a big paycheck.

So you get to suffer through anywhere from 2 minutes to 30 of unmitigated bullshiat. Late night TV becomes a mass of exaggerations and liars, barely readable disclaimers and folks far too fast talking and cheerful.

However, it makes the TV stations millions. So, no matter what you think, it's going to continue.

That 70 year old guy and his 'inversion' exerciser is just another take on the old 'gravity boots' and hanging upside down is not a magic cure for all back problems and is good for only a few exercises. He aint 70 either.

Remember spray-on hair. I saw someone actually wearing that years ago. The ad lied. You can tell the difference. Now we have 'roll-on' hair, dispensed from what seems to be a deoderizer stick. You'll note that the after images include a careful change in the way the hair is combed. To cover the bald spots.

Now, the EZ-eyes large letter keyboard does what it claims. The price is good. The shipping is fair. However, like all keyboards today, the large letters are only painted on the keys, meaning they wear off. Rarely will you find any board these days with laser etched keys. It's also compatible with any plug and play system. Even laptops.

At least the company restricts themselves to an average length commercial -- not those mini-infomercials nor those half hour hype-fests on late nights.

The majority of the exercise equipment is krap. Someone is cashing in on the exercise craze and charging as much as the market will bare. Anything that gets you moving is an exerciser, even a rocking chair, but it depends on the amount of calories burned per hour as to whether or not it's worth it.

If it seems too good to be true, it usually is.

All of those little table top grills would have been pretty good, if they had made the cooking surfaces removable for easy cleaning. The expensive ones tend to have lift out cooking plates.

Like the older crock pots. Their 'crock' lifted out to clean it. The newer ones require some acrobatics to wash since the crock is fixed in place and submerging the thing shorts it out.

If you can't easily read the disclaimer on your big screen TV, then don't buy the product. Making the disclaimer hard to read is a sure tip-off that the product is krap.
 
2012-12-28 12:43:19 PM

trippdogg: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

While a punishing workout might show results for a while, you'll never be able to keep it up in the long run.

Fitness isn't a gimic, it's a life style. If you can't commit the next 40 years, you're really just wasting your time.
Get a gym membership. An unlimited membership at 24hr Fitness costs about $30 a month. Unless you're still working a paper route, that's farking nothing.
Don't bother with personal trainers. If you need a babysitter to watch you, you'll never keep it up.
Just listen to your body - it knows what it needs. Anything that is extremely painful or uncomfortable is not doing your body good in the long run. This include lifting overly heavy weights and long distance running (the average lifespan of a marathon runner is less than 60 years).
If what you're after is weight loss, diet is 75% of the battle. Other than that, hit the gym, observe and imitate - and above all, just keep moving (no one ever lost an ounce of fat sitting on a bench between sets).


You know, that might have worked great for you - but astonishingly, different people respond well to different situations. I spent 20 odd years bumping around different fitness routines, 'listening to my body' etc. Then I joined a Crossfit gym at 33 and am in better shape a year later than I was at 18. I look at it the same way I do taking my car to a mechanic or calling a plumber - the owner/trainer at my gym spends all their time putting together routines that complement/supplement/etc, and they have all of the equipment required already set up. Moreover, are the desk staff at the Bally's going to teach me proper form for a Clean&Jerk, or let me try one with their metal plates? Am I going to be able to safely bail on a heavy lift?

No, No, and No.

This way I basically guarantee that if I can show up for an hour 4-5 days a week, I'll come out the other side in great shape. It isn't the Only solution to the question of how to get fit - but it is a very good one.
 
2012-12-28 12:43:32 PM

buntz: but the P90X guy was such a douche I had a hard time watching the DVDs.


When we did P90X, he irritated as well until we chose "audio instructions only" (can't remember what it was called). He'd only explain the workouts, and everything else - the playful banter, the jock talk, the 'inspiration' - was muted.

Wife & I both lost quite a bit of weight. I loved it, hope to do it again this spring.
 
2012-12-28 12:46:37 PM

SanjiSasuke: P90X? Insanity? Crossfit? I am disappoint.

Deep squats, full range bench and of course deadlifts are the true kings of physique. Need cardio? Run, a lot (never after leg day).


Well, I guess gyms may vary, but deep squats (of various types, incuding Overhead, which I'd never even seen done before) and Deadlifts are critical elements of Crossfit.
 
2012-12-28 12:48:42 PM

titwrench: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

My girlfriend went from a little doughy to rock solid in about 45 days and now she's built like a swimsuit model and still does Insanity every morning.


I think we will be needing pictures to verify.
 
2012-12-28 12:49:21 PM

not5am: dj_spanmaster: I've had a lot of luck with this one. Even comes with a diet plan.

[img42.imageshack.us image 500x293]

Note: that's me, gym in 26 minutes, etc

how much was the walker?

/did a double take when i saw the infomercial to make sure it wasn't a spoof.


Yep, it borrowed and modified the design from walkers, for good reason - it's an efficient, strong design. I got it for $120 with the optional bench seat, if you were serious.
 
2012-12-28 12:49:49 PM

stuhayes2010: But Chuck Norris is a friend of Jesus, he endorses that sliding table, so it must work.


If I hear that Total Gym radio commercial with the over caffeinated female reader I think I may go nuts. I really have to believe that the use strange pronunciation and syllabic emphasis is intended to grab your attention and not just some weird quirk.
 
2012-12-28 12:50:15 PM

MycroftHolmes: Workout equipment and programs are good for the following

1. They get you motivated-Buying into the promises or marketing can get you excited about working out, which is critical
2. The good ones offer a balance of activities-A good system or tool will help you exercize your entire body, not just one body part
3. They help improve form to improve effectiveness and reduce injury
4. They offer a guideline or template to structure your workout.

All of these goals can also be met with no-cost, body weight only exorcizes that require no equipment. But if a popular system or piece of equipment will get you motivated, it is entirely worth it.

Most people lose their momentum when they find out that no matter the system, no matter the equipment, exercise is still hard work if it is going to be effective.


I find those to be more of a spritual workout...
 
2012-12-28 12:54:43 PM

Jster422: deep squats (of various types, incuding Overhead,


I just did those today at my box. I only started in September so I'm not that great on form/technique but Overhead Squats are the WORST for me. I'm not a big guy (don't need to lose any weight) and I started to simply get in shape, build a little upper body muscle, yada yada yada and for the most part I'm doing pretty good in every WoD they throw at me but the overhead squats? HATE them!!!! Can barely do the bar!
 
2012-12-28 01:03:05 PM

Jster422: trippdogg: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

While a punishing workout might show results for a while, you'll never be able to keep it up in the long run.

Fitness isn't a gimic, it's a life style. If you can't commit the next 40 years, you're really just wasting your time.
Get a gym membership. An unlimited membership at 24hr Fitness costs about $30 a month. Unless you're still working a paper route, that's farking nothing.
Don't bother with personal trainers. If you need a babysitter to watch you, you'll never keep it up.
Just listen to your body - it knows what it needs. Anything that is extremely painful or uncomfortable is not doing your body good in the long run. This include lifting overly heavy weights and long distance running (the average lifespan of a marathon runner is less than 60 years).
If what you're after is weight loss, diet is 75% of the battle. Other than that, hit the gym, observe and imitate - and above all, just keep moving (no one ever lost an ounce of fat sitting on a bench between sets).

You know, that might have worked great for you - but astonishingly, different people respond well to different situations. I spent 20 odd years bumping around different fitness routines, 'listening to my body' etc. Then I joined a Crossfit gym at 33 and am in better shape a year later than I was at 18. I look at it the same way I do taking my car to a mechanic or calling a plumber - the owner/trainer at my gym spends all their time putting together routines that complement/supplement/etc, and they have all of the equipment required already set up. Moreover, are the desk staff at the Bally's going to teach me proper form for a Clean&Jerk ...


That's real cute. A Crossfit gym showing anyone proper form.

Sweet joke.
 
2012-12-28 01:05:42 PM

buntz: Jster422: deep squats (of various types, incuding Overhead,

I just did those today at my box. I only started in September so I'm not that great on form/technique but Overhead Squats are the WORST for me. I'm not a big guy (don't need to lose any weight) and I started to simply get in shape, build a little upper body muscle, yada yada yada and for the most part I'm doing pretty good in every WoD they throw at me but the overhead squats? HATE them!!!! Can barely do the bar!


The advice that has (so far) helped me with those has been to keep my eyes on the wall in front of me - looking up or down just made the tendency to tip over even worse.

I don't like them either, but I'll take them over Thrusters any day.
 
2012-12-28 01:09:16 PM

MrJesus: That's real cute. A Crossfit gym showing anyone proper form.


I'm not sure where the venom is coming from, but I'm a 40 year old who never lifted a bar in his life. So for me to go to a gym and just start lifting weights, it just seems I wouldn't know what to do or the proper way to do it.

I feel like I'm being trained pretty well at CrossFit. I don't have any pride there. I freely admit A) I don't know what I'm doing and B) I want to be trained.

I'm not a "fitness snob" and certainly wouldn't belittle anyone for trying to better themselves.
 
2012-12-28 01:09:58 PM

MrJesus: Jster422: trippdogg: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

While a punishing workout might show results for a while, you'll never be able to keep it up in the long run.

Fitness isn't a gimic, it's a life style. If you can't commit the next 40 years, you're really just wasting your time.
Get a gym membership. An unlimited membership at 24hr Fitness costs about $30 a month. Unless you're still working a paper route, that's farking nothing.
Don't bother with personal trainers. If you need a babysitter to watch you, you'll never keep it up.
Just listen to your body - it knows what it needs. Anything that is extremely painful or uncomfortable is not doing your body good in the long run. This include lifting overly heavy weights and long distance running (the average lifespan of a marathon runner is less than 60 years).
If what you're after is weight loss, diet is 75% of the battle. Other than that, hit the gym, observe and imitate - and above all, just keep moving (no one ever lost an ounce of fat sitting on a bench between sets).

You know, that might have worked great for you - but astonishingly, different people respond well to different situations. I spent 20 odd years bumping around different fitness routines, 'listening to my body' etc. Then I joined a Crossfit gym at 33 and am in better shape a year later than I was at 18. I look at it the same way I do taking my car to a mechanic or calling a plumber - the owner/trainer at my gym spends all their time putting together routines that complement/supplement/etc, and they have all of the equipment required already set up. Moreover, are the desk staff at the Bally's going to teach me proper form for a Clea ...


That's a pretty useful comment, thanks.

You're right though, I should just go to my local Olympic champion trainer who is eager to take some time out of his day to work with office drones trying to get in shape in their spare time. Or maybe I could just go to Youtube - that probably will give me good, solid, and applicable advice.
 
2012-12-28 01:11:44 PM

Jster422: The advice that has (so far) helped me with those has been to keep my eyes on the wall in front of me - looking up or down just made the tendency to tip over even worse.


No, my problem is simply getting my arms in that position. I'm horrible at ANY squats (air squats, wall balls, front squats etc.) so holding something in that awkward position is just hard for me.
I think if I could squat better everything else would fall into place
 
2012-12-28 01:11:56 PM

buntz: theMagni: I had good luck with the Wii Fit

I started with the Wii Fit (from ZERO activity) so it worked pretty well for over a year. But eventually there just wasn't any 'challenge' in the moves. I was able to run on the treadmill during the "free run" part. I eventually graduated from that to Insanity.


Yeah, it's a good start but I haven't used it in a long time. I don't even have a Wii anymore.

I just go to the gym, it's right next door.
 
2012-12-28 01:14:09 PM

dj_spanmaster: Yep, it borrowed and modified the design from walkers, for good reason - it's an efficient, strong design. I got it for $120 with the optional bench seat, if you were serious.


damn, that's expensive. still looks ridiculous.
 
2012-12-28 01:16:06 PM

buntz: MrJesus: That's real cute. A Crossfit gym showing anyone proper form.

I'm not sure where the venom is coming from, but I'm a 40 year old who never lifted a bar in his life. So for me to go to a gym and just start lifting weights, it just seems I wouldn't know what to do or the proper way to do it.

I feel like I'm being trained pretty well at CrossFit. I don't have any pride there. I freely admit A) I don't know what I'm doing and B) I want to be trained.

I'm not a "fitness snob" and certainly wouldn't belittle anyone for trying to better themselves.


There is no belittling towards anyone training in Crossfit for trying to better themselves.

There is plenty of belittling for 99% of Crossfit gym "owners" and "trainers" who continue to propagate a fitness program that relies on quantity over quality and apparently has no qualms with teaching terrible form and technique as a means to an end of meeting rep quotas. That doesn't even begin to get into the fact that there is no formal certification process and the forms that exist come from completely unqualified sources with no background in sports medicine, nutrition, or legitimate personal training whatsoever.

The rate of injury for Crossfit trainees is alarming and is due to a complete lack of oversight and care for the trainees.
 
2012-12-28 01:17:37 PM

Jster422: MrJesus: Jster422: trippdogg: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

While a punishing workout might show results for a while, you'll never be able to keep it up in the long run.

Fitness isn't a gimic, it's a life style. If you can't commit the next 40 years, you're really just wasting your time.
Get a gym membership. An unlimited membership at 24hr Fitness costs about $30 a month. Unless you're still working a paper route, that's farking nothing.
Don't bother with personal trainers. If you need a babysitter to watch you, you'll never keep it up.
Just listen to your body - it knows what it needs. Anything that is extremely painful or uncomfortable is not doing your body good in the long run. This include lifting overly heavy weights and long distance running (the average lifespan of a marathon runner is less than 60 years).
If what you're after is weight loss, diet is 75% of the battle. Other than that, hit the gym, observe and imitate - and above all, just keep moving (no one ever lost an ounce of fat sitting on a bench between sets).

You know, that might have worked great for you - but astonishingly, different people respond well to different situations. I spent 20 odd years bumping around different fitness routines, 'listening to my body' etc. Then I joined a Crossfit gym at 33 and am in better shape a year later than I was at 18. I look at it the same way I do taking my car to a mechanic or calling a plumber - the owner/trainer at my gym spends all their time putting together routines that complement/supplement/etc, and they have all of the equipment required already set up. Moreover, are the desk staff at the Bally's going to teach me proper form f ...


No, if you want to learn proper form you either spend the time necessary using lower weights to achieve that goal or spend you money with someone properly certified to teach you how to do those things firsthand.

You may have one of the few Crossfit gym owners with any sort of qualification to do that. The overwhelming majority, however, do not.
 
2012-12-28 01:20:08 PM
I went to the Iowa Infomercial Institute, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2012-12-28 01:22:37 PM

dj_spanmaster: I've had a lot of luck with this one. Even comes with a diet plan.

[img42.imageshack.us image 500x293]

Note: that's me, gym in 26 minutes, etc


I love the ads for bodyweight/low resistance stuff that picture guys who look like that.

Then again anybody who thinks you look like that after doing some pushups and dips probably can't be trusted to lift heavy weights over his or her head.
 
2012-12-28 01:29:52 PM

SanjiSasuke: P90X? Insanity? Crossfit? I am disappoint.

Deep squats, full range bench and of course deadlifts are the true kings of physique. Need cardio? Run, a lot (never after leg day).


The 80s called. They want their repetitive stress injuries back. We have this thing called interval training now.
 
2012-12-28 01:32:09 PM

MrJesus: That doesn't even begin to get into the fact that there is no formal certification process and the forms that exist come from completely unqualified sources with no background in sports medicine, nutrition, or legitimate personal training whatsoever.


Hmm. I hadn't heard that. I naturally did some research before joining and all of my coaches seem to have proper weightlifting and personal training certification (not including "crossfit certification") but I suppose each box may vary.

And like I said, I'm still in on-ramp type classes, so although they do have AMRAP WoDs, I am never pushed to do as many rounds as possible, and simply do as many as I can, using proper technique.
I remind them, and myself, every day that I'm 40, new to this and have no pride when it comes to lifting (let alone the cardio stuff like box jumps, burpees, running, rowing, etc).

I don't know. I've had a good experience so far
 
2012-12-28 01:33:20 PM

Jster422: SanjiSasuke: P90X? Insanity? Crossfit? I am disappoint.

Deep squats, full range bench and of course deadlifts are the true kings of physique. Need cardio? Run, a lot (never after leg day).

Well, I guess gyms may vary, but deep squats (of various types, incuding Overhead, which I'd never even seen done before) and Deadlifts are critical elements of Crossfit.


Except Crossfit teaches really shiatty form and leads to injury. Seriously, don't do Crossfit unless you want to get injured. Kipping pullups are hell on the shoulder (and have zero benefit), doing olympic lifts/deadlifts for high amount of reps is stupid and leads to injury and some of the invented workouts are just plain dangerous. Not to mention most of their instructors (not all, but most) teach really shiatty form on nearly all the exercises. Any fitness program that emphasizes kipping pullups is a joke.


MrJesus: There is no belittling towards anyone training in Crossfit for trying to better themselves.

There is plenty of belittling for 99% of Crossfit gym "owners" and "trainers" who continue to propagate a fitness program that relies on quantity over quality and apparently has no qualms with teaching terrible form and technique as a means to an end of meeting rep quotas. That doesn't even begin to get into the fact that there is no formal certification process and the forms that exist come from completely unqualified sources with no background in sports medicine, nutrition, or legitimate personal training whatsoever.

The rate of injury for Crossfit trainees is alarming and is due to a complete lack of oversight and care for the trainees.


100% this.
 
2012-12-28 01:34:43 PM

These work really well depending on how you use them


img594.imageshack.us

 
2012-12-28 01:43:16 PM
They're ridiculously overpriced too


Not if people are buying them.

/Economics 101, folks.
 
2012-12-28 01:48:52 PM
I just want to know why despite paying a wildly exorbitant cable bill, when I can't sleep at 4 AM all that's on are half-hour shill-fests for these obviously shoddy and ineffective chunks of dung?


/I sound fat
//There's a reason for that
///Bring back those Sex-A-Robics videos that made cable worth having in the '80s
////And The Venture Brothers
 
2012-12-28 01:49:08 PM

theMagni: buntz: theMagni: I had good luck with the Wii Fit

I started with the Wii Fit (from ZERO activity) so it worked pretty well for over a year. But eventually there just wasn't any 'challenge' in the moves. I was able to run on the treadmill during the "free run" part. I eventually graduated from that to Insanity.

Yeah, it's a good start but I haven't used it in a long time. I don't even have a Wii anymore.

I just go to the gym, it's right next door.


Aw, that's too bad. "Boardy" is going to miss you. " Do you want to hear a fitness tip?"

Admit it: the wife found out about you and that hot, yoga-panted greyish-skinned female trainer. Always with the sexy talk: "You're keeping a nice pace", "You've got great posture", "Have sex every day to tone your waistline".

/yes, I own a Wii, Wii Fit and WiiFit Plus. Started using it again a month ago after an absence of (according to Boardy)... 504 days. I was..uh.. busy with work, alright!!
 
2012-12-28 01:53:13 PM
ERB did it.

/"But wait there's more..."
 
2012-12-28 01:55:28 PM

Jster422: SanjiSasuke: P90X? Insanity? Crossfit? I am disappoint.

Deep squats, full range bench and of course deadlifts are the true kings of physique. Need cardio? Run, a lot (never after leg day).

Well, I guess gyms may vary, but deep squats (of various types, incuding Overhead, which I'd never even seen done before) and Deadlifts are critical elements of Crossfit.


I'm aware of Crossfit's attempt to be proper, the issue is that most people who do it do it all wrong. Plus I don't see why one can't just work on flexibility, speed and strength separately, but without interfering.
He doesn't either:
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-28 02:01:48 PM
A number of years ago I did a tax project for a company that infomercial markets exercisze equipment. One of the things I learned was that the 'models' in the commercials doing the exercizes are 'naturally' well toned and do little exercize to stay that way. Why that fact stuck with me I will never know, but it did convince me that the equipment probably didn't work as advertised.
 
2012-12-28 02:03:10 PM

snocone: ChipNASA: B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b - b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuuuuuuuuu uuuuttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
THIGH-MASTER with OPTIONAL SUZANNE SOMERS
[www.awesomehq.com image 340x253]

I'll still pay postage on her.


You can have her

www.cosmeticsurgerytruth.com
 
2012-12-28 02:10:03 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: snocone: ChipNASA: B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b - b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuuuuuuuuu uuuuttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
THIGH-MASTER with OPTIONAL SUZANNE SOMERS
[www.awesomehq.com image 340x253]

I'll still pay postage on her.

You can have her

[www.cosmeticsurgerytruth.com image 448x336]


Ah, a Jocelyn wannabe.
 
2012-12-28 02:10:10 PM

trippdogg: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

While a punishing workout might show results for a while, you'll never be able to keep it up in the long run.

Fitness isn't a gimic, it's a life style. If you can't commit the next 40 years, you're really just wasting your time.
Get a gym membership. An unlimited membership at 24hr Fitness costs about $30 a month. Unless you're still working a paper route, that's farking nothing.
Don't bother with personal trainers. If you need a babysitter to watch you, you'll never keep it up.
Just listen to your body - it knows what it needs. Anything that is extremely painful or uncomfortable is not doing your body good in the long run. This include lifting overly heavy weights and long distance running (the average lifespan of a marathon runner is less than 60 years).
If what you're after is weight loss, diet is 75% of the battle. Other than that, hit the gym, observe and imitate - and above all, just keep moving (no one ever lost an ounce of fat sitting on a bench between sets).


I hope you can back that statistic up with some evidence.
 
2012-12-28 02:10:51 PM

vudukungfu: But they fit right under you bed.


But then they don't work as clothes hangers.
 
2012-12-28 02:17:12 PM

dj_spanmaster: Ctrl-Alt-Del: snocone: ChipNASA: B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b - b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuuuuuuuuu uuuuttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
THIGH-MASTER with OPTIONAL SUZANNE SOMERS
[www.awesomehq.com image 340x253]

I'll still pay postage on her.

You can have her

[www.cosmeticsurgerytruth.com image 448x336]

Ah, a Jocelyn wannabe.


It's a shame, too, because she really did hold it together remarkably well into her early sixties. Just 3 or 4 years ago I would have been talking about how she looked great for her age
 
2012-12-28 02:19:09 PM

MrJesus: Jster422: MrJesus: Jster422: trippdogg: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

While a punishing workout might show results for a while, you'll never be able to keep it up in the long run.

Fitness isn't a gimic, it's a life style. If you can't commit the next 40 years, you're really just wasting your time.
Get a gym membership. An unlimited membership at 24hr Fitness costs about $30 a month. Unless you're still working a paper route, that's farking nothing.
Don't bother with personal trainers. If you need a babysitter to watch you, you'll never keep it up.
Just listen to your body - it knows what it needs. Anything that is extremely painful or uncomfortable is not doing your body good in the long run. This include lifting overly heavy weights and long distance running (the average lifespan of a marathon runner is less than 60 years).
If what you're after is weight loss, diet is 75% of the battle. Other than that, hit the gym, observe and imitate - and above all, just keep moving (no one ever lost an ounce of fat sitting on a bench between sets).

You know, that might have worked great for you - but astonishingly, different people respond well to different situations. I spent 20 odd years bumping around different fitness routines, 'listening to my body' etc. Then I joined a Crossfit gym at 33 and am in better shape a year later than I was at 18. I look at it the same way I do taking my car to a mechanic or calling a plumber - the owner/trainer at my gym spends all their time putting together routines that complement/supplement/etc, and they have all of the equipment required already set up. Moreover, are the desk staff at the Bally's going to teach me pro ...

The overwhelming majority, however, do not.


Fair, though my sample size is small, but the owners of my gym have lamented the lack of requirements for certification. They have also been training since before the advent of Crossfit, and have various other education/certification - but at the end of the day I'm still taking a lot on faith. They are very clear about when to back off vs. push for more, and erring on the side of safety (and we spend a lot of time learning to safely bail out) - but that's all subjective.

It does beg the question of how, given the variety of professional certifications and various governing bodies for 'personal trainers', any layman can objectively judge a prospective trainer beyond 'well, he/she is obviously in better shape than I am'.
 
2012-12-28 02:28:54 PM
Link

Why would Lanny Pofo life to us?
 
zez
2012-12-28 02:29:44 PM
This is the only piece of fun equipment I need (I didn't say exercise because it's more fun than work). Road, trail, it does it all. Lost 50 pounds over the summer and had a blast doing it.

www.cxmagazine.com
 
2012-12-28 02:30:33 PM
Tug Toner.

That is all.
 
2012-12-28 02:52:56 PM
A nice 8-lane indoor heated pool was opened up earlier this year by the city where I live. Swimming laps freestyle isn't the most exciting exercise in the world - and it doesn't seem to rid me of my gut - but it is a good way to show your heart and lungs you still care.
 
2012-12-28 02:56:32 PM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: A nice 8-lane indoor heated pool was opened up earlier this year by the city where I live. Swimming laps freestyle isn't the most exciting exercise in the world - and it doesn't seem to rid me of my gut - but it is a good way to show your heart and lungs you still care.


I tried that too. Had to work on the diet simultaneously to do anything about the gut.
 
2012-12-28 02:59:34 PM
I've started taking martial arts classes. Signed the whole family up, and we go at least 3 times a week. Good exercise and learning something useful as well, not just pushing heavy objects or running and going nowhere.
Plus my two daughters will be able to fend off those icky boys when they come over.
 
2012-12-28 03:27:44 PM

zez: This is the only piece of fun equipment I need (I didn't say exercise because it's more fun than work). Road, trail, it does it all. Lost 50 pounds over the summer and had a blast doing it.

[www.cxmagazine.com image 850x547]


Huzzah!
 
2012-12-28 03:41:27 PM
Just an excuse to post these.

Ace Power
Flaccid Flexor
Shake Weight
 
2012-12-28 03:43:22 PM
What's the best exercise equipment?

The one you'll use. No matter what gimmick is out there, it all comes down to eating reasonably (most important), and exercise. You need to be active during as much of the day as possible....and if you're eating right, it's fairly straight forward.

I went through a long time of being overweight despite lots of exercise (riding 100+ miles a week)...and eventually realized that diet is far more important than exercise for weight control. Unless you're riding the Tour de France, you can out-eat ANY exercise regimen. (trust me, I did). Once I realized that I was stress / boredom eating a lot, fixing those issues did far more for me than any exercise equipment or routine. I've lost 17 lbs since 11/15. Still have a ways to go, but eating right has made things much easier.

That being said, my 2 favorite pieces of exercise equipment are:
s2.hubimg.com

This.....
www.comparestoreprices.co.uk

And these - seriously...if you just get out the door and walk, you can do that all day long and not get injured.

sidomoro.com
 
2012-12-28 03:55:09 PM

kokomo61: And these - seriously...if you just get out the door and walk, you can do that all day long and not get injured.


I'm living proof. I've hated "working out" all of my life. Exercise feels like unwarranted punishment to me. That's just the way it is.

But fast-walking is the tits. I can maintain a steady 4-mph pace for hours, with little or no rest at all. And it feels great to me. Best of all, I have some really long and well-maintained trails through the woods near my home. Mrs_Fab and I walk together, and it's benefited both of us tremendously.

[/testimony]
 
2012-12-28 04:15:57 PM
I do enjoy the Brazilian Butt lift DVD infomertials. We need more like that.
 
2012-12-28 05:20:03 PM

titwrench: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

My girlfriend went from a little doughy to rock solid in about 45 days and now she's built like a swimsuit model and still does Insanity every morning.


Canada has a market for swimsuit models??
 
2012-12-28 05:35:38 PM

Prof. Ann Marion: titwrench: kregh99: I'm actually a fan of P90X and the like (Insanity, etc.). Once you remove the fancy packaging and trendy terms ("muscle confusion"), the basic principle is "Punish the shiat out of your body and you'll see results in a few months," which is accurate.

/ got my P90X as a gift, so didn't have to pay a dime.
// beats month after month of gym fees

My girlfriend went from a little doughy to rock solid in about 45 days and now she's built like a swimsuit model and still does Insanity every morning.

Canada has a market for swimsuit models??


She is from Niagra Falls. You wouldn't know her.
 
2012-12-28 07:09:13 PM
Nothing will ever top the $14K ROM.

Still on the market, still claims a 4-minute workout, still suckering rich folks everywhere.
 
2012-12-28 07:16:29 PM

MycroftHolmes: Most people lose their momentum when they find out that no matter the system, no matter the equipment, exercise is still hard work if it is going to be effective.


That's exactly what happened to me.
 
2012-12-28 08:36:13 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: dj_spanmaster: Ctrl-Alt-Del: snocone: ChipNASA: B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b - b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-uuuuuuuuuu uuuuttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
THIGH-MASTER with OPTIONAL SUZANNE SOMERS
[www.awesomehq.com image 340x253]

I'll still pay postage on her.

You can have her

[www.cosmeticsurgerytruth.com image 448x336]

Ah, a Jocelyn wannabe.

It's a shame, too, because she really did hold it together remarkably well into her early sixties. Just 3 or 4 years ago I would have been talking about how she looked great for her age


Welll, Pillgrimm, this beholder's eyes are still seeing a woman younger than I.
 
2012-12-29 01:06:55 PM

ChipNASA: Clemkadidlefark: I raise beef which means hard hard work.

No time to get muscle beach buff, but I guarantee you all them city-pusses who bounce around sweaty and ripped ain't ready to wrangle beef and such. It's a whole different kind of strength.

I do the same thing and I can do it with one hand.


Let me put you in touch with the insemination department over at the genetics lab ....

mallmarketingmedia.com
 
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