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(Stars and Stripes)   Enterprise vs Enterprise hard core Stars and Stripes journalist asks: "A 23rd-century starship obviously has far more advanced technology than a 21st-century aircraft carrier. But in what other ways are the vessels dissimilar?"   (stripes.com) divider line 90
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2012-12-28 12:10:40 AM  
"Q. Other than the fact that a starship has phasers and an aircraft carrier doesn't, how would you characterize the differences in their combat capabilities?"
 
2012-12-28 12:13:40 AM  
209.160.41.119
 
2012-12-28 12:18:09 AM  
Starship Enterprise has better looking doctors and ship's counselors.
 
2012-12-28 12:26:24 AM  

some_beer_drinker: 209.160.41.119


Wow. I love that image. Time for a TNG marathon this weekend.
 
2012-12-28 01:50:32 AM  
Well, since one is cgi and props/sets, and the other was a great damn flattop- I have to go with the big E.
 
2012-12-28 03:23:29 AM  

NewportBarGuy: some_beer_drinker: 209.160.41.119

Wow. I love that image. Time for a TNG marathon this weekend.


Those spheres on top of the Star Destroyer's bridge are its shield generators.
 
2012-12-28 03:31:48 AM  

Sgt Otter: Those spheres on top of the Star Destroyer's bridge are its shield generators.


Ladies and Gentlemen- we have found the biggest Nerd on Fark. : )
 
2012-12-28 04:20:19 AM  
space one has better looking communication ladies too, in snazzy outfits - it's fab, baby
 
2012-12-28 04:20:42 AM  

teto85: Starship Enterprise has better looking doctors and ship's counselors.


Yeah, Doctor Pulaski was hittable in a cougarish way.
 
2012-12-28 05:08:15 AM  
Navy nerds. Please let this go green.
 
2012-12-28 06:31:52 AM  

fusillade762: Navy nerds. Please let this go green.


only you can also vote plus one.
 
2012-12-28 07:21:23 AM  
Where are your nuclear wessels?
 
2012-12-28 08:20:12 AM  

stratagos: Where are your nuclear wessels?


I got your nukes... right here.

dvice.com
 
2012-12-28 09:05:20 AM  

alienated: Sgt Otter: Those spheres on top of the Star Destroyer's bridge are its shield generators.

Ladies and Gentlemen- we have found the biggest Nerd on Fark. : )


everyone new that...but still...
 
2012-12-28 09:06:03 AM  
farking k on my keyboard is farked.kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
 
2012-12-28 09:51:56 AM  

some_beer_drinker: [209.160.41.119 image 378x480]


Do those look like laser beams to you? Could a laser destroy a planet?

/oh God, this again
 
2012-12-28 10:11:09 AM  

some_beer_drinker: farking k on my keyboard is farked.kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


You need to upgrade to a non stick keyboard or work on your aim.
 
2012-12-28 10:14:52 AM  

NewportBarGuy: some_beer_drinker: 209.160.41.119

Wow. I love that image. Time for a TNG marathon this weekend.


Just watched Wrath of Khan on Netflix last night after watching TOS Khan episode. It was really good to watch it that way so it was fresh. So then I was curious. Maybe that will help me watch Star Trek III since it's just a continuation. I had completely blocked out Star Trek III. Couldn't remember the plot at all even though it is obvious from the title. Yeah that was a huge waste of time. Horrible. I remember IV because that's pretty good too. V of course is awful and VI is good. Yes yes, I know....only do even numbered ones. But we didn't know that in the 80s when they were coming out. I had seen them all at one point and didn't realize how thoroughly I had blocked the odd numbered ones from my memory. I thought maybe watching them in order would help all that. It did not.
 
2012-12-28 10:25:59 AM  

brandent: I had completely blocked out Star Trek III. Couldn't remember the plot at all even though it is obvious from the title. Yeah that was a huge waste of time. Horrible.


I think Trek 3 is highly maligned. You have to get past the obvious goofiness of bringing Spock back but that was unavoidable  After that, you have the first appearance of the modern Klingon, which will be used throughout  the series, the first appearance of the Bird of Prey, which will be used throughout the series, that big breasted Klingon girl, Kirk's pussy son finally getting stabbed to death, Doc Brown as a Klingon, Sulu as a faaabulous James Bond bad ass, Kirk stealing the Enterprise, Kirk destroying the Enterprise, some decent dramatic acting, I thought it was decent. Trek 4 was just a fish out of water story on earth because they wanted to save on the budget.

Trek 5 had some decent Kirk/McCoy/Spock scenes. I think it could have been a passable film with a few re-writes and better FX.
 
2012-12-28 10:38:01 AM  

alienated: Sgt Otter: Those spheres on top of the Star Destroyer's bridge are its shield generators.

Ladies and Gentlemen- we have found the biggest Nerd on Fark. : )


Not really, all this knowledge requires is that you pay attention. During the Battle of Endor, the Rebels destroy one of these towers on the Super Star Destroyer, an Imperial Officer says that they have lost bridge deflector shields.
 
2012-12-28 11:05:28 AM  
FTFAthe U.S. Navy retired the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN-65)...[and]...the third Ford-class supercarrier (CVN-80), due to be completed around 2025, will be named Enterprise.

Am I the only one who thinks they should have designated the new Enterprise as CVN-65-B?
 
2012-12-28 11:13:20 AM  

eraser8: FTFA:  the U.S. Navy retired the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN-65)...[and]...the third Ford-class supercarrier (CVN-80), due to be completed around 2025, will be named Enterprise.

Am I the only one who thinks they should have designated the new Enterprise as CVN-65-B?


CVN-65-A, DAMMIT!

No one wants a B! That was Captain Cameron's ship! And odds are, on its maiden voyage, he'll wind up killing the most important dignitary on the ship and pissing off everyone like he took his Dad's Ferrari out!
 
2012-12-28 11:23:12 AM  
i128.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-28 11:30:38 AM  
People actually pooped on CVN-65?

/not "on" CVN-65.  You know what I mean.
 
2012-12-28 11:39:45 AM  

ArkAngel: alienated: Sgt Otter: Those spheres on top of the Star Destroyer's bridge are its shield generators.

Ladies and Gentlemen- we have found the biggest Nerd on Fark. : )

Not really, all this knowledge requires is that you pay attention. During the Battle of Endor, the Rebels destroy one of these towers on the Super Star Destroyer, an Imperial Officer says that they have lost bridge deflector shields.


Well there's at least one bigger one apparently. I think there was simply a misunderstanding of what a huge bunch of nerds there are on fark.
 
2012-12-28 11:56:08 AM  

Rusty Shackleford: People actually pooped on CVN-65?

/not "on" CVN-65.  You know what I mean.


I know a guy that allegedly pooped in one of the reactor compartments.

That has to be the most exclusive club ever.
 
2012-12-28 01:18:34 PM  

One Bad Apple: Rusty Shackleford: People actually pooped on CVN-65?

/not "on" CVN-65.  You know what I mean.

I know a guy that allegedly pooped in one of the reactor compartments.

That has to be the most exclusive club ever.


I almost did that on the Theodore Roosevelt when I realized what I had wandered into.
 
2012-12-28 01:29:19 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: People actually pooped on CVN-65?

/not "on" CVN-65.  You know what I mean.


Off the flight deck and into the water?
 
2012-12-28 01:37:02 PM  
Off the top of my head, without even leaving existing naval nomenclature:

CVN-Enterprise: An aircraft carrier. Designed to be a force-projection platform that always travels as part of a battle group, but really can't do much alone. When it does move, however, it has one job: destroy.
NCC-Enterprise: A cruiser. Designed for long term independent operation. Happens to also mount exceptional sensors (as befits its mission of
'seek out, go where no man has gone before'...it's a SCOUT!) and a powerful suite of point defense and direct-firing weapons (it took em HOW long to come up with a heat-seeking torpedo?). If you see it in a pitched battle, something has gone terribly wrong-but there you go.

Book it, done.
 
2012-12-28 01:43:35 PM  

alienated: Sgt Otter: Those spheres on top of the Star Destroyer's bridge are its shield generators.

Ladies and Gentlemen- we have found the biggest Nerd on Fark. : )


The idea that a Star Destroyer does not have shields is just silly, besides you think those Phasers or photon torpedoes really deliver more destructive power then Turbo Lasers? The lasers on the Death Star were only slightly larger then Turbo Lasers and they could destroy a whole planet.

The Millenium Falcon stole it's shields and upgraded armor from a Star Destroyer, along with it's incredibly advanced hyper drive, and multiple droid brain foul mouthed primary computer made it a very hard ship to maintain.
 
2012-12-28 01:43:46 PM  
Powerlevel thread? What are accepting as Canon? All published materials or just original media?

Star wars wins handily if we go just with original media.
 
2012-12-28 01:58:19 PM  
I highly doubt the real Enterprise can operate in the vacuum of space.

Also, Kirk can bang the blonde hottie assistant to the alien team trying to hijack the Enterprise and nothing happens to him (TOS: Wink of an Eye). The Captain of the aircraft carrier Enterprise bangs the female hottie assistant of the terrorists trying to hijack the ship and I'm sure he'll be in explaining in great detail what he thought he was doing during his court martial.

tos.trekcore.com
 
2012-12-28 02:00:10 PM  
Let's be honest here, geeks and nerds of Fark: the Big E was no "21st Century" anything. She was commissioned in the mid-20th century with a 1st-generation shipboard nuclear propulsion system that was a nightmare of cores, pumps, plants, valves and CRUD. She made history just being launched and served us well for 50 years, but that was an OLD boat. The movie library was designed for reel-to-reels.

It would have been nice if the new class of CVNs could have been ENTERPRISE instead of Gerald Ford. A president that was never elected by anyone outside of a single congressional district? Seriously? And people sh*t their pants over an LCS being named for Gabrielle Giffords.
 
2012-12-28 02:06:12 PM  

alienated: Well, since one is cgi and props/sets, and the other was a great damn flattop- I have to go with the big E.


TNG barely used any CGI, except for a couple of shots.
 
2012-12-28 02:08:51 PM  

factoryconnection: It would have been nice if the new class of CVNs could have been ENTERPRISE instead of Gerald Ford. A president that was never elected by anyone outside of a single congressional district? Seriously? And people sh*t their pants over an LCS being named for Gabrielle Giffords.


Can't wait for the William J. Clinton. Slogan - "Loaded with seamen and ready for action!"
 
2012-12-28 02:11:33 PM  
Star Trek wins because they have time travel.

If they lose a fight, any ship in the federation can just go back in time and change history so they win.
 
2012-12-28 02:15:27 PM  
About the only thing those two ships have in common is the name and the fact they both have humans on board.

But it can be fun to speculate.
 
2012-12-28 02:17:41 PM  
Does the new CVN have a bowling alley? 'Cause the starship did.
 
2012-12-28 02:19:37 PM  

studebaker hoch: Star Trek wins because they have time travel.

If they lose a fight, any ship in the federation can just go back in time and change history so they win.


That is something I wondered about a few times. They can go back in time simply by flying around the sun at warp speeds. So, during the Dominion War, when the Federation was losing, why didn't someone ever suggest "Let's sling shot around the Bajoran sun to when Sisko first made contact with the Dominion and the Odyssey was destroyed and say "Okay, here's what's about to happen. Kill Gul Dukat. Here is a list of really good chances to do so. Also, here is a way of collapsing the wormhole without killing the Prophets."

/I know, dramatic purposes and all that.
 
2012-12-28 02:27:10 PM  

alienated: Sgt Otter: Those spheres on top of the Star Destroyer's bridge are its shield generators.

Ladies and Gentlemen- we have found the biggest Nerd on Fark. : )


Honestly, if you didn't know that then you probably should be permanently banned from the Geek tab.
 
2012-12-28 02:28:34 PM  

factoryconnection: Let's be honest here, geeks and nerds of Fark: the Big E was no "21st Century" anything.


Right, which is why the article was not talking about CVN-65. You might want to actually read it.
 
2012-12-28 02:29:05 PM  

studebaker hoch: Star Trek wins because they have time travel.

If they lose a fight, any ship in the federation can just go back in time and change history so they win.



Nimitz can do that. Should have retrofitted CVN65 to do it too.
5wordmoviereviews.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-28 02:41:54 PM  

factoryconnection: Let's be honest here, geeks and nerds of Fark: the Big E was no "21st Century" anything


Know how I know you didn't RTFA?

FTFA So how will the new supercarrier Enterprise (CVN-80) compare to the starship Enterprise (NCC- 1701)?
 
2012-12-28 02:52:19 PM  
One thing superior about the USS Enterprise carrier. It has bathrooms. Never seen one on the starship Enterprise.
 
2012-12-28 03:00:20 PM  

mrlewish: One thing superior about the USS Enterprise carrier. It has bathrooms. Never seen one on the starship Enterprise.


But they talked about the "Captain's log" in just about every episode
 
2012-12-28 03:00:27 PM  
It's the elevator, right?  Must be the elevator
 
2012-12-28 03:00:56 PM  

mrlewish: One thing superior about the USS Enterprise carrier. It has bathrooms. Never seen one on the starship Enterprise.


There was one on the Enterprise.

ONE.

/of course, wouldn't they just have devices to beam the shiat out of you by that point?
//But how could they take the pleasure of a nice, hearty dump away from you?
 
2012-12-28 03:01:11 PM  

mrlewish: One thing superior about the USS Enterprise carrier. It has bathrooms. Never seen one on the starship Enterprise.


It's clear that there were restrooms in the individual quarters. I mean there is a small alcove on one side of the room behind an open door with a sink and running water. Clearly there's a shower and toilet back there as well (TNG crew quarters)

There is even one on the Bridge. One TNG, look in the rear section of the Bridge. You'll see a small alcove. In that alcove are two doors. One door leads to the Observation Deck, the other door faces that door (okay, it's not easily seen, but from some angles you can see it, sometimes crew members walk out of it), that door leads to the Bridge restroom. There is even another one in the Captain's Ready Room. In the Ready Room there is the replicator and what looks like a small hallway. That leads to the Captain's private restroom.
 
2012-12-28 03:03:59 PM  

Great Janitor: mrlewish: One thing superior about the USS Enterprise carrier. It has bathrooms. Never seen one on the starship Enterprise.

It's clear that there were restrooms in the individual quarters. I mean there is a small alcove on one side of the room behind an open door with a sink and running water. Clearly there's a shower and toilet back there as well (TNG crew quarters)

There is even one on the Bridge. One TNG, look in the rear section of the Bridge. You'll see a small alcove. In that alcove are two doors. One door leads to the Observation Deck, the other door faces that door (okay, it's not easily seen, but from some angles you can see it, sometimes crew members walk out of it), that door leads to the Bridge restroom. There is even another one in the Captain's Ready Room. In the Ready Room there is the replicator and what looks like a small hallway. That leads to the Captain's private restroom.


Do they have to evacuate the bridge after Worf goes on a prune juice bender and blows up the bathroom?

"Captain! Come quick! You've got to see this! It looks like live gagh!"
 
2012-12-28 03:20:19 PM  

Great Janitor: mrlewish: One thing superior about the USS Enterprise carrier. It has bathrooms. Never seen one on the starship Enterprise.

It's clear that there were restrooms in the individual quarters. I mean there is a small alcove on one side of the room behind an open door with a sink and running water. Clearly there's a shower and toilet back there as well (TNG crew quarters)

There is even one on the Bridge. One TNG, look in the rear section of the Bridge. You'll see a small alcove. In that alcove are two doors. One door leads to the Observation Deck, the other door faces that door (okay, it's not easily seen, but from some angles you can see it, sometimes crew members walk out of it), that door leads to the Bridge restroom. There is even another one in the Captain's Ready Room. In the Ready Room there is the replicator and what looks like a small hallway. That leads to the Captain's private restroom.


But, do they use the three clamshells?
 
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