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(The Journal (Ireland))   Italian priest writes that women might have themselves to blame for domestic violence and sexual assault. Women show remarkable restraint by allowing him to remain alive   (thejournal.ie) divider line 88
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2012-12-27 09:53:10 PM  
7 votes:

jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.


We could get a bunch of us together to describe to you the unremarkable, unsexy things we were wearing when we were raped, but it would just be sad and disturbing.
2012-12-27 09:50:05 PM  
7 votes:

jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.


You're exactly right! On that note, we need to make sure that an idiot getting "mugged" needs to take responsibility for his own actions. Let's never refer to the guy being mugged as a "victim", he is the accuser from now on.
2012-12-27 09:49:32 PM  
6 votes:
Why do people listen to these charlatans? Look, if God exists you don't need a priest/minister/bishop to talk to Him. He can hear you just fine.
2012-12-28 03:04:57 AM  
5 votes:
Well, then I guess that you might have yourself to blame when I just slap your face with a cricket bat, padre... I mean, you are asking for it...

Seriously, this kind of bullshiat it's not only demeaning to women(duh) but also insulting to us men. The connotation that our primary impulse as males is to rape and it's up to women to stop us just irks me.

Besides, the hypocrisy of the statement is just baffling...
2012-12-27 11:55:44 PM  
5 votes:
Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.

FOR THE UMPTEENTH farkING TIME:

There is no correlation between dressing provocatively and being raped. There are many criminology studies and interviews with rapists indicating that it is about power and degredation, not sexual attraction.

Only 4% of attackers even remember what their victims wore.Now don't you have a parish to run?
2012-12-27 09:37:53 PM  
5 votes:
I always get my relationship advise from celibate men in dresses.
2012-12-27 09:24:55 PM  
5 votes:
Not a light matter at all. I was offered the opportunity when I moved in with my significant other to not work or work part time as he takes care of the bills. I declined and work full time. That way, there is no arseholishness involved over whose turn it is to do the dishes, cook, etc. He's a great man anyway, but I would never put myself in that position. Having had situations in my past in which the male views were more aligned with the Catholic church (although I have always worked and not taken time off for children and was never aligned with a devout Catholic man) this priest may go fly a kite. If that is the current view of the Vatican, then I anxiously await the absorbtion of their state into Italy, and pray it be very soon. I admit, much as I like quite a lot about Catholicism, I to this day disdain their views on women and will never convert. Fools and a city state run by foolish, foolish men. Statements such as this just continue to encourage violence and lack of understanding.
2012-12-28 12:23:11 PM  
4 votes:
Orbister

Wearing jeans and a t-shirt rather than something more revealing will probably reduce the attention you get from potential rapists

I see you've missed the part where I mentioned that only 4% of rapists even remembered what their victims wore. Do I have to dig up actual article itself to prove to your dumb ass that clothing has fark all to do with it?

That sounds rather as if it uses the out-dated notion of rape a violent assault with a sexual component and not, as it it now generally understood, as sexual activity without consent. Rohypnol is not about power and degradation.

Kindly explain to me when the fark criminologists decided that the majority of rape really is about sex and not degredation. Show me the peer-reviewed articles please.

Oh and by the way, if you think that having sex with someone who is unconcious, helpless, and totally vunerable isn't about a power trip, then I have a bridge to sell you.
2012-12-27 09:56:36 PM  
4 votes:

someonelse: jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.

We could get a bunch of us together to describe to you the unremarkable, unsexy things we were wearing when we were raped, but it would just be sad and disturbing.


Or the little children who are raped. And the old ladies in old-folks homes. Or the mentally incompetent. Or the fat, ugly guy in prison...

Some people are just assholes.
2012-12-27 09:35:10 PM  
4 votes:

jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.


You should be able to do that.
2012-12-28 01:54:28 PM  
3 votes:
NCg8R
Yes, people with farked up histories of making poor decisions should get extra attention and be allowed to ignore their own baggage when it becomes inconvenient (or dangerous).

Yes, nevermind that your husband is actively trying to murder you, you're less important than the woman who left the moment her boyfriend first slapped her. Get out of the shelter!

/I'm being sarcastic, in case you can't tell
2012-12-28 01:20:29 PM  
3 votes:
Omeganuepsilon

Rapists do what they do for a variety of reasons, it's a vague title. Desperate frat boys AND psycho habitual power-tripping offenders both exist. Pretending one does not is aggrandizing at best, delusional at worst.

If someone is desperate for sex, they can buy a hooker.Again, studies show that men who participate in gang rapes do so out of peer pressure, not sexual desire.

I pity you, that you got the sour end of the stick in whatever situation you were in.

I myself was never victimized, but its adorable that you would assume that merely because I have strong opinions on rape. See, I do this funny thing called "reading books", you should try it sometime.

Don't drink things you didn't see made, don't leave drinks unattended.

My gosh, what brilliant gems of wisdom you offer! I have never heard this advice before! I shall be certain to share this scintillating and revolutionary advice with every other woman I meet, I'm sure they will be astounded to hear it.

Sure, we can't eliminate the problem completely this way, but we can minimize as much as possible.

Look idiot, I'm not saying that women shouldn't take precautions like monitoring their drinks or taking self-defense classes.

I'm saying that people like Orbister are idiots for espousing the myth that rape is about sexual frustration. These myths have long been discredited by criminologists and psychologists. It has nothing to do with what you wear. Period. Its about power and degredation. This isn't some politically correct nonsense espoused by feminists, this is truth, and if you ever bothered to crack open a book about the subject you'd know that.

Perpetuating the myth that rape is about sex is why judges give lenient sentences to rapists while lecturing the victim on what she wore. You aren't "minimizing the problem" by telling women what to wear, you're making it worse.
2012-12-28 12:31:12 PM  
3 votes:
Orbister

Oh by the way, what about rape with objects? I recall reading a particular case in which a snapple bottle was forced into the victims vagina by her three rapists and her body was burned with lit cigarettes.

How is that related to sexual frustration, pray tell?
2012-12-28 12:04:18 AM  
3 votes:
There is no correlation between dressing provocatively and being raped. There are many criminology studies and interviews with rapists indicating that it is about power and degredation, not sexual attraction.

Only 4% of attackers even remember what their victims wore.Now don't you have a parish to run?


QFT
2012-12-27 11:58:14 PM  
3 votes:
KrispyKritter

And females that dress and act like trash - yes, you are asking for it. Keep on playing the role so you can cry later and play the victim you stupid coonts. There are plenty of notwelldotcom guys out there that love your type. Morans.

Congratulations on turning into your father. You must be very proud of yourself.
2012-12-27 10:25:42 PM  
3 votes:
Just a question:
Do the boys that priests rape wear salacious clothing?
2012-12-27 09:31:11 PM  
3 votes:
"I don't know whether you're a queer or not, but what do you feel when you see a naked women?" he asked a reporter for Rai Radio.

Same thing as when I see a naked man. A complex form that must be broken down into its component shapes so I can draw it. Why? What do you see? And where exactly has a priest seen a naked woman for that matter?
2012-12-27 09:17:12 PM  
3 votes:
A priest having no idea how cohabitation with a domestic partner works? No farking way.
2012-12-27 08:12:16 PM  
3 votes:
Only because we haven't found the bastard yet.
2012-12-27 08:04:03 PM  
3 votes:
...while an elderly female resident told Sky Italia television that Corsi "should keep a low profile as he has lots of secrets he would not wish to come out".

Go on...
2012-12-28 06:38:10 PM  
2 votes:

orbister: MeanJean: If you think raping an unconcious victim isn't a big power trip, you are sadly deluded.

Sex and power are inextricably interlinked, so I find your apparent insistence that rape is all about power and nothing whatsoever to do with sex rather peculiar.


Raping a sleeping person is not just about power and it is sad that MeanJean is so deluded. And mean, like that's some seriously unnecessary ITG going on. Like first year philosophy student talking to high school seniors level of mean. It is also clear MeanJean does not know what 'power' means in the context that it is being used in here. Or that words have many meanings which depend on context. I'll assume English is not their primary language.
2012-12-28 02:38:53 PM  
2 votes:
Thundercles

And how is this relevant? The men don't deserve to be victimized any more than the women do. Would the priest claim that the men brought it on themselves?
2012-12-28 11:19:10 AM  
2 votes:
Your examples are completely different in that they are people doing stupid shiat that harms themselves.

A better comparison is if:
You drove down a road where there are a bunch of bars and a drunk driver hit and killed you.
Or you are hiking in back woods and the redneck does something to cause you to lose 3 fingers.

You aren't asking for it, you went about your own business and someone harmed you.
2012-12-28 01:13:36 AM  
2 votes:
KrispyKritter poppa critter *snip*

Nothing your mom did forced your dad to hit her. He's the one that let himself hit her. Just so you know.
2012-12-28 12:08:13 AM  
2 votes:
In to second the "it has nothing to do with her clothes" point.
2012-12-27 11:46:51 PM  
2 votes:
Poppa Kritter was of the 'town drunk' variety. Momma Kritter is of the sociopath who never received professional help variety. Pop would come home lit and Mom would inevitably get in his face and goad him on incessantly until the war was waged. Beer swilling Pop kept it to a mere thunder roar most of the time. On his rare hard alcohol nights he was a different fella, that's when Mom's mouth felt the sting of Pop's hand. So you tell me. Some people's relationship is based on dysfunctional behavior and communication at a feverish pitch. Had my Mom just went to bed or left the old man alone I & my siblings might have got some sleep as children. Plenty of biatches crank it up until they get smacked. Last place i worked, an older broad that was forever in FM shoes and too much makeup once told me "every man I ever had a relationship wound up hitting me". Gosh, wonder what the common connection was there.

And females that dress and act like trash - yes, you are asking for it. Keep on playing the role so you can cry later and play the victim you stupid coonts. There are plenty of notwelldotcom guys out there that love your type. Morans.
2012-12-27 11:39:47 PM  
2 votes:
I guess this explains why there is no domestic violence or sexual assault in Muslim countries where women are covered head to toe....


/what a moran
2012-12-27 11:10:31 PM  
2 votes:

jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.


Yes, wearing a dress, or jeans, or a burqa, or a hazmat suit, is exactly the same as getting drunk and flashing a wad of cash, then leaving alone by the alley. So if you wear jeans, and a gay guy rapes you, it's also the same thing. You should never put your junk on display like that.

Where the fark do these people come from.
2012-12-27 09:52:47 PM  
2 votes:

jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.


Yes to both.
2012-12-27 09:51:25 PM  
2 votes:

RandomExcess: Before solely blaming women for DV and other stuff, being Italian, he should remember it takes two to tango.


The Tango has its origins in South America, not Italy.
2012-12-27 09:46:50 PM  
2 votes:

kombat_unit: In some cases, he is correct. Some women stay with their abuser until it become fatal.


Unfortunate, but quite true. Women should always retain their autonomy whether it is a full or part time job or a book club. Until all women....even those unpalatable to the rest of society, realize their sentience, it is an unfortunate ill-effect of I guess Western society, although it seems to be global based on my amateur reading and research which is wonky at best. I lived as one of these women, suffered and commiserated with them.

Truer words on Fark in this thread could not be spoken. Thank you for your kindness.

/I'm out to fix Xmas leftovers. Peace and love to all for the New Year. I am glad to fix dinner for my men as it involves little effort and they have arranged themselves to see after their own needs while I am in transit about 4 hours a day.
//again, Vatican priest can go fly a kite for all the good it may do him. Perhaps he will discover and examine the free female spirit and be tempted
///next month on CNN, fallen Vatican priest, lol
////forbidden forth slashie-I took Tai Chi and Hap Kido and learned how to drop an opponent. Ask my ex who snuck up on me one night while I was doing dishes. Didn't hurt him, only his pride. I have no need of such skills now and am at rest for it.
2012-12-27 09:27:33 PM  
2 votes:
Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.
2012-12-27 09:26:43 PM  
2 votes:
Yeah cause rape wasnt invented til after the miniskirt.
2012-12-27 09:22:21 PM  
2 votes:
And priests are experts on women, so he would know.

He would explain further, but he doesn't want to be late for the premarital counseling he's performing for an engaged couple.
2012-12-27 09:06:39 PM  
2 votes:
Children are abandoned to their own devices, homes are dirty, meals are cold or fast food, clothes are filthy.

May as well have yelled "Clean up this place, make me a sammich and do the laundry, biatch."

This reminds me of the asshat priest who claimed children were responsible for priests molesting them because they were so seductive.
2012-12-27 08:34:58 PM  
2 votes:
Is it possible that all of a sudden men have gone mad? We don't believe it.

Did men suddenly start abusing women recently?  I don't believe it either.
2012-12-28 06:28:19 PM  
1 votes:

MeanJean: The drunken rapist didn't rape his unconcious victim because the booze made him do it. He did it because he's sack of shiat.


Many, many men have woken up with a hangover, next to someone with whom they would not have had sex while sober. Do you think the women in those cases are "sacks of shiat"? Do you think they have had sex with drunken men solely to exercise power over them? In every single case?
2012-12-28 05:38:11 PM  
1 votes:
Omegaepisilon
If people are taught that random people won't take advantage of them they are more likely to get into situations where they can be taken advantage of, ergo, more likely to be taken advantage of.

Keeping people pointedly ignorant is no way to avoid the situation.


And when did I say it was a good idea for people to get drunk and/or high at random parties and pass out, pray tell?

Its amazing. I try to explain to you that how you dress has nothing to do with rape and that rape is about power, and you take that to mean that I want women to put themselves in danger.

Of course you should watch your drink so it doesn't get spiked. Of course you should learn self-defense.

But if you think it has anything do with how women dress then you're the one who is willfully ignorant.

...general misinformation and outright lies

If you care to present a peer-reviewed criminological source showing what  I stated to be wrong, go right ahead.

Again, you're operating on this red herring that I'm speaking in absolutes about "proof",

You're the one who stated, and I quote directly:

If they're both unconscious, guess which one 99% or rapists(psycho and date-rapey kind) would prefer. Where are your statistics on that?That's a study I would like to see, and really, the only actual proof that would matter.

You are sitting there insisting that in a minority of rape cases there is a causal factor between how the woman dresses and whether or not she gets raped. I pointed to the mountain of evidence to contrary, and you countered by squealing that I'm spreading lies and misinformation, and insisted that only the only proof that matters is the bizarre experiment that you propose.

And somehow, I'm the one who is being unreasonable and speaking only in absolutes. (rolleyes)

Orbister

Some rapes are about sex.

(citation needed)

 Some rapes are about power. If we perpetuated the myth that it's simply a crime of violence, the man who gets his victim drunk and then has non-consensual and non-violent sex with her will continue to believe that he is not a rapist. He is.

I said it was about power, not violence. If you think raping an unconcious victim isn't a big power trip, you are sadly deluded.

Well, that's my point. We used to think that rape was a crime of violence, so that women who showed no signs of violence or who hadn't fought back were deemed not to have been victims of rape.

Again, shiat for brains, I said it was about power, not violence. If you think that the only way to exercise power someone is be violent then you don't understand power.
2012-12-28 05:11:01 PM  
1 votes:

MeanJean: Oh by the way, what about rape with objects? I recall reading a particular case in which a snapple bottle was forced into the victims vagina by her three rapists and her body was burned with lit cigarettes.

How is that related to sexual frustration, pray tell?


Some rape is done to satisfy violent urges. Some rape is done to satisfy sexual desires. Both are reprehensible.
2012-12-28 03:38:37 PM  
1 votes:
OmegaEpisolon

What you put forth, that appearances, opportunity, and simple sex drive/gratification have nothing to do with rape, ever, that it's ONLY about power and degredation.... People listening to that may just drink too much at a party, pass out, and get raped while unconscious,

You really have to get up early in the morning to be this farking stupid. My stating that rape is about power and not sex is going to cause people drink too much and get raped while passed out?

How is raping a helpless, unconcious victim not a power trip? How can you possibly be this pants-on-head retarded?

More attractive women get raped that total hose beasts, or rather, of all women, total hosebeasts(fat, boils, old, whatever doesn't float your boat) are the least raped of body types. Of course that's an unfounded out-of-my ass statement, but I'd place good money on it being true.

It is an unfounded out of your ass statement. Women with disabilities are twice as likely to be raped than able-bodied women. Does cerebral palsy give you a raging hard-on?

I'm wearing crotchless panties to this party because I want to feel sexy, I know I won't get too drunk to take care of myself. If someone else can't do that, too bad for them.

IF that's the case, we're not trying to dictate what people wear. It's fair warning.


If there really is a correlation between how you dress and rape, then why does Afganistan (where women wear BURKAS) have one of the highest rape rates in the world? Why do only 4% of rapists remember what their victims wore?

Give me an intelligent answer explaining that instead of glibly dismissing years of criminological data.

That's the thing about "fair warning" It's got to be taken in context of the whole hypothetical. You put an ugly woman in a parka next to a hot and practically naked women.

If they're both unconscious, guess which one 99% or rapists(psycho and date-rapey kind) would prefer. Where are your statistics on that? That's a study I would like to see, and really, the only actual proof that would matter.


And how exactly do you test that theory, aside from actually drugging women and tossing them in cells with rapists?

 Extrapolating data from nutjobs and fratboys, weeks to months after the fact just doesn't quite have the accuracy required to make a call about "facts".

Yeah that's right, nevermind the opinions of criminologists who have literally spent years studying rape and interviewing convicted rapists, only YOUR personal jack-off fantasy experiment would be sound proof.
2012-12-28 03:08:19 PM  
1 votes:
So who do we blame for all this pedophilia? Oh, that's riiiiiight...
2012-12-28 02:38:48 PM  
1 votes:

GF named my left testicle thundercles: are people mad because he is correct?


No.

In related news, more women attempt suicide, while more men succeed at it.

The glaring difference appears to be: men choose more lethal methods.
2012-12-28 10:52:44 AM  
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: It's been happening one a week for years? Well I'm inclined to believe you want it.


Or you think you deserve it, or every man you have ever know has treated you like that, or you have nowhere to go, or you think you have nowhere to go. "Scream Quietly or the Neighbours Will Hear" is an old book, but still very powerful.
2012-12-28 10:23:46 AM  
1 votes:

ciberido: A priest taking a position exactly opposite something Jesus said or did?  Inconceivable!


Most Christian sects find Matthew, Mark, Luke and John rather embarrassing and try to gloss over them. They are far happier with Leviticus and the nastier rantings of Paul.
2012-12-28 10:19:48 AM  
1 votes:
I don't care if we are talking about male or female victim, the first instance of domestic violence the victim is completely blameless. The second time you were the dip shiat that stayed with them so you get some of the blame. It's been happening one a week for years? Well I'm inclined to believe you want it.

I'm sure it's that simple. There aren't a thousand extenuating circumstances sometimes comingling in fatal ways for an abused person to stay with their abuser. Or go back to their abusers. Nope, just simple "you must want it". Just as simple as a priest saying "It's your duty to stay". Just as simple as "You're not taking the kids". Just as simple as "No place will take you and your dog". Just as simple as "You have no job and no money". Just as simple as "No one will believe you, they think you're crazy". Just as simple as "well, you have a criminal record so no shelters will take you". Just as simple as "everyone you know has given up on you".

It's always so simple.
2012-12-28 09:42:58 AM  
1 votes:

not_an_indigo: Oh yay. Rape culture has infiltrated always been an open secret of the church.

2012-12-28 09:40:13 AM  
1 votes:

kombat_unit: In some cases, he is correct. Some women stay with their abuser until it become fatal.


Kind of like most religious people and their churches.
2012-12-28 09:11:43 AM  
1 votes:

kombat_unit: In some cases, he is correct. Some women stay with their abuser until it become fatal.


And people like this priest are the major cause of that.
2012-12-28 08:58:59 AM  
1 votes:

hitlersbrain: I think women bring domestic violence on themselves by marrying and then staying with type A douche bags. They'll get no sympathy from me.


It's possible to be "type A" but not a douchebag - my Fark handle notwithstanding.

"Type A" is just another way of saying "assertive." And yeah, I am. I'm also a raging liberal who believes in helping the poor and a fan of handguns. For home defense; not in your face.

 BTW, being born male already gives you a 50/50 chance at being "type A." We're assholes. Always have been. The true men out there understand that their natural instinct to f*ck something up is not to be applied to their S.O. Punch a wall if you have to. But don't go out beating and raping women.

 I figured this was common sense, but it doesn't appear that way.
2012-12-28 07:45:52 AM  
1 votes:
Just another asshat. Not as bad as the one who said kids seduced priests but getting up there.
2012-12-28 07:40:11 AM  
1 votes:

hitlersbrain: Nice guy angle? Is that some new lefty code phrase or something?


Oh no, if you've been on the internet for more than a day you know exactly what I'm talking about
2012-12-28 07:23:10 AM  
1 votes:
I think women bring domestic violence on themselves by marrying and then staying with type A douche bags. They'll get no sympathy from me.
2012-12-28 04:08:29 AM  
1 votes:
Catholic priests understand women the same way tapeworms understand nuclear physics. Priests of every denomination are pretty much parasites, the collective heirs to some bright guy in the Neolithic age who figured out how not to work for a living.
2012-12-28 03:28:59 AM  
1 votes:
Domestic violence is genderless.
2012-12-28 03:22:39 AM  
1 votes:
Wouldn't it be funny if he got raped by like 5 guys?

/who says rape isn't funny?
2012-12-28 02:34:59 AM  
1 votes:
My SIL is one of those 'get in your face' types who love to yell 'go ahead and hit me'. Most of her boyfriends eventually took her up on it. One of them to.d me she did it so often, he figured it was a fantasy so he belted her. I'm not saying it's right, but baiting someone and daring them to do something is not terribly intelligent.
2012-12-28 02:33:46 AM  
1 votes:

OgreMagi: megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: megarian: iq_in_binary: megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: Benjamin Orr: megarian: Just a question:
Do the boys that priests rape wear salacious clothing?

have you not seen those sexy altar boy uniforms?

I'm a chick and... Well...

7/10 Would bang.

[clicks on profile]

Uhm, I would happily wear the alterboy outfit for you.  I can even speak a little bit of Latin.

That....um....that's kinda hot.

Maybe I need therapy.

Or maybe I need some religion.

Have anything more recent? Some things get better with age.

Always do.

Also. I have no idea why it says 2004. I did them my junior year in college: 2009

Oh, jeez.  That means I'm twice your age.

/I'll be crying in the corner
//with the rum

Older guys get hotter with age. Like scotch. Women...not so much. They just get batshiat crazy.

I, uh, I ....
Please don't tease middle aged men. It's not nice.


It's true! Ask any not batshiat crazy girl. And let everyone know if you find a not batshiat crazy girl. She'll probably be riding a unicorn.
2012-12-28 02:27:41 AM  
1 votes:

OgreMagi: megarian: megarian: iq_in_binary: megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: Benjamin Orr: megarian: Just a question:
Do the boys that priests rape wear salacious clothing?

have you not seen those sexy altar boy uniforms?

I'm a chick and... Well...

7/10 Would bang.

[clicks on profile]

Uhm, I would happily wear the alterboy outfit for you.  I can even speak a little bit of Latin.

That....um....that's kinda hot.

Maybe I need therapy.

Or maybe I need some religion.

Have anything more recent? Some things get better with age.

Always do.

Also. I have no idea why it says 2004. I did them my junior year in college: 2009

Oh, jeez.  That means I'm twice your age.

/I'll be crying in the corner
//with the rum


Older guys get hotter with age. Like scotch. Women...not so much. They just get batshiat crazy.
2012-12-28 02:03:28 AM  
1 votes:
So on top of ignoring what Jesus said to take care of people now a priest is taking a position exactly opposite of what Jesus did when he saved the accused adulteress from being stoned. What next?
2012-12-28 12:56:41 AM  
1 votes:

Big Ramifications: Woman shouldering 0.00001% of the blame for ANYTHING that happens to them?

[hahapoundingfistontabletearsoflaughter.gif]


Oh, there's something worth laughing about in your post, alright.
2012-12-28 12:51:10 AM  
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: Why do people listen to these charlatans? Look, if God exists you don't need a priest/minister/bishop to talk to Him. He can hear you just fine.


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/ would agree with that...
// funny how many Protestant churches have seemingly drifted away from that
2012-12-28 12:11:58 AM  
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NotARocketScientist: There is no correlation between dressing provocatively and being raped. There are many criminology studies and interviews with rapists indicating that it is about power and degredation, not sexual attraction.

Only 4% of attackers even remember what their victims wore.Now don't you have a parish to run?

QFT


You can say that again.
2012-12-28 12:11:12 AM  
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MeanJean: KrispyKritter

And females that dress and act like trash - yes, you are asking for it. Keep on playing the role so you can cry later and play the victim you stupid coonts. There are plenty of notwelldotcom guys out there that love your type. Morans.

Congratulations on turning into your father. You must be very proud of yourself.


Seconded. Though I guess it is a small step at a time one generation at a time for people incapable of thinking new thoughts.
2012-12-27 11:30:53 PM  
1 votes:
Reading this thread convinces me that some people from /pol/ are around.
2012-12-27 11:02:20 PM  
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someonelse: jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.

We could get a bunch of us together to describe to you the unremarkable, unsexy things we were wearing when we were raped, but it would just be sad and disturbing.


Yup. Because, you know, at 14, I should have been in the kitchen making a sammich instead of at school in a t-shirt and jeans. Silly me.
2012-12-27 11:00:42 PM  
1 votes:
I wonder what men do to deserve it. Since men are the victims of between 40 to 70 percent of non-reciprocal domestic violence.

I guess men are dressing slutty too.
2012-12-27 10:50:30 PM  
1 votes:
Italian priests only have themselves to blame for getting raped by the Vatican for the past thousand odd years.
2012-12-27 10:42:23 PM  
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cookiefleck: Acharne: cookiefleck: unfarkingbelievable: cookiefleck: too bad italian men are the most dependent, pussy whipped men on the planet.

WTF is wrong wtih you?

this is a troll who has been stalking me since 2008... really. like im pretty sure it's a TFer that doesn't seem to have had a life since then and seems to have an overinflated ego on all sorts of things like morality.

B-but you signed up in December 2008... did you m-make a b-bad imp-impre-imp'p'pression?

Why did you point this out? Streisand and all.

nope, this troll decided to be the one moral objector to me. no matter what i said.


Considering the stupidity of what you said, maybe you are just stupid.
2012-12-27 10:29:14 PM  
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cookiefleck: unfarkingbelievable: cookiefleck: too bad italian men are the most dependent, pussy whipped men on the planet.

WTF is wrong wtih you?

this is a troll who has been stalking me since 2008... really. like im pretty sure it's a TFer that doesn't seem to have had a life since then and seems to have an overinflated ego on all sorts of things like morality.


B-but you signed up in December 2008... did you m-make a b-bad imp-impre-imp'p'pression?

Why did you point this out? Streisand and all.
2012-12-27 10:12:51 PM  
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The problem isn't that self-righteous idiots are spouting their uninformed opinions, as that is and always will be the case. The problem is that people keep repeating them in media and we read it simply in anticipation of the outrage and self-righteousness we will feel by the end of article. The circle of Troll is complete.
2012-12-27 10:09:15 PM  
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jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.


Does anyone know if there is a gay or lesbian version of this? I mean I usually see this in threads with heterosexual people but is this "they were asking for it/they deserved it" sentiment also put forward in homosexual circles too?
2012-12-27 10:02:44 PM  
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 I want my S.O. to have five minutes alone with this man. She's nearly six feet tall and - here's the fear factor - a natural redhead. This man would probably die of a fright-induced heart attack before she even laid her talons into him.

 I know I would. I've seen this woman angry. It was a mistake I have not since made. :)
2012-12-27 10:01:05 PM  
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Gato Blanco: jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.

You're exactly right! On that note, we need to make sure that an idiot getting "mugged" needs to take responsibility for his own actions. Let's never refer to the guy being mugged as a "victim", he is the accuser from now on.


Iffy comparison; a mugging vs. no crime is not determined by consent alone. If you insist on using a monetary comparison, you'd be better off with gift vs. theft. "A says B stole $50 from them. B says that A gave it to them as a gift." Who has the burden of proof? What labels would you use for the parties?
2012-12-27 10:00:43 PM  
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Personally, I believe the instances of domestic violence has gone down for the simple fact that it's been a long time since it was considered acceptable.  The reports of domestic violence has gone up because there is no longer a stigma attached to it and the police will take it seriously (except in backwards places like Texas and Italy).
2012-12-27 10:00:22 PM  
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A CATHOLIC PRIEST has sparked outrage in Italy by claiming that women bring sexual and physical violence on themselves by dressing provocatively and neglecting housework, Italian media are reporting today.

/Now, little boys on the other hand, skirts are fine.

//All snark aside, seriously, can you really actually believe the derp you spew? Really? Or is just canned vomit you occasionally puke out on the general population to start shiat? I can't see, how any reasonable person would think that not doing housework deserves physical violence or sexual assault. You're either an idiot, a troll, or you love being a sodomite on little boys so much, you don't care if you piss off women. Oh wait, you've never worried about womens rights in the first place. Please continue with your moranic gut heaving bile.
2012-12-27 09:55:55 PM  
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jeffowl: Clearly, people should be able to dress as they like without the threat of being raped. Just like I should be able to get drunk, flash a wad of cash as I pay my tab, and leave by myself through the alley without being mugged.


Nice. You'll get some bites with that one.
2012-12-27 09:53:51 PM  
1 votes:
Sounds like he has been reading his bible
2012-12-27 09:52:35 PM  
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UsikFark: Miss Stein: Qual è il suo nome

Il mio nome è Giuseppe!


Your name is Toby now! *whipcrack*
2012-12-27 09:50:06 PM  
1 votes:
At least he didn't suggest women could be priests.  That kind of shiat can get you excommunicated.
2012-12-27 09:45:52 PM  
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Dude needs raped with a jackhammer in a public square.
/only because prison rape isn't funny.
//just to be sure, dress his misogynistic ass up as Pagliacci, just to be sure.
///What? I can't make a good clown joke?
2012-12-27 09:41:56 PM  
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FarkingReading: If there's a Hell, the number of priests in it has to be very high. Sadly, many of them probably enjoy the rape by flaming demon penises and whatnot.


If you enjoy it, it's not really Hell then is it?

My idea of hell is being surrounded by bible beaters for eternity.
2012-12-27 09:33:21 PM  
1 votes:
Oh yay. Rape culture has infiltrated the church.
2012-12-27 09:30:19 PM  
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In some cases, he is correct. Some women stay with their abuser until it become fatal.
2012-12-27 09:25:18 PM  
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If there's a Hell, the number of priests in it has to be very high. Sadly, many of them probably enjoy the rape by flaming demon penises and whatnot.
2012-12-27 09:24:47 PM  
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too bad italian men are the most dependent, pussy whipped men on the planet.
2012-12-27 09:17:21 PM  
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Before solely blaming women for DV and other stuff, being Italian, he should remember it takes two to tango.
2012-12-27 09:17:13 PM  
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Iron my shirt, priest.
2012-12-27 08:15:46 PM  
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Step aside, Huckabee....A new religious pundit for Faux News* has emerged!
 
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