OgreMagi: The preference of paying ransom instead of killing the pirates needs to stop. I guess I'm being callous when I say we should always go in guns a-blazing because in the long run it will save more lives once the pirates learn that there is no profit in their trade. I'm also in favor of high seas justice involving hanging from the yardarm.
jumac: while keeping a armed group of people on the ships at all times would prevent your ship form entering most countries waters. I am surprised someone hasn't setup something up where on both sides of the area(outside of the danger zone) are ships with teams of armed/trained personal. when your ship gets near you pick up a team with all their weapsons. they stay with your ship until you pass though the area and drop them off on the other side.
ClavellBCMI: And a lot of those attacks are in or near waters controlled by our old anti-terrorist friends Yemen, back before the brave ex-President of Yemen decided his health was more important than taking bribes and oppressing his own citizens (after someone fired an RPG through the doors of the mosque he was in, damn near killing him and actually killing his Prime Minister and a few of his other top aides).
YouPeopleAreCrazy: threadjackistan: Trouble is, a lot of these ships have traveled through or are inside Somali territorial waters.And a lot of them aren't. I don't think Somali waters extend 500 miles out.[www.wired.com image 630x800]
heavymetal: If you want to stop the problem arm the ships. Have traned mercenaries & sharpshooters onboard. I know the argument, that will just cause the Somalian pirates to escalate their attacks and make them more severe. Just do the same with the ships. I am sure the shipping companies have more access to better weapons and countermeasures than the pirates.
threadjackistan: Trouble is, a lot of these ships have traveled through or are inside Somali territorial waters. For years, international companies have been destructively harvesting Somail fisheries and illegally dumping toxic waste on the Somali coast. We created this problem by behaving lawlessly in that area and now we complain when the area becomes lawless.It makes us feel good to describe the pirate as vicious murders and thieves, born rotten, but many of them simply have no other options due to our (The Developed World's)actions either wholly or in part.
threadjackistan: Yes, yes, they're were pirates in the area in ancient times. Obviously Somalis are nothing but brute pirates, since times immemorial.Pollution, over fishing? Why that's all done by those dirty Russians and devious Red China-men. We would never casually engage in these sorts of activities. Afterall, they are forbidden in our territorial waters, why would we go elsewhere to do it?Pull your head out of your ass.I'm not saying that all the Somalians are blessed little angels, but seriously? You want to blame everything on dirty furiners?I dont know what else I was expecting...
Poundit Hardus: Step 1: Get myself a yachtStep 2: Gather NRA TypesStep 3: Pirate Shooting ChartersStep 4: $$$
threadjackistan: Trouble is, a lot of these ships have traveled through or are inside Somali territorial waters.
Fano: Let Julius Caesar do the talking
cgraves67: OgreMagi: The preference of paying ransom instead of killing the pirates needs to stop. I guess I'm being callous when I say we should always go in guns a-blazing because in the long run it will save more lives once the pirates learn that there is no profit in their trade. I'm also in favor of high seas justice involving hanging from the yardarm.I will also bear the burden of being the person who says not to negotiate with pirates. I'm sorry your stuck in a hellhole, but we aren't going to let those pirates get what they want.Something should've been done to facilitate a rescue operation though.
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