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(The Whiskey Reviewer)   Maker's Mark expands into the cracker market   (whiskeyreviewer.com) divider line 28
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11642 clicks; posted to Main » on 27 Dec 2012 at 5:03 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-12-27 05:08:06 PM  
5 votes:
I have a gut feeling that he was refused because he was a loud mouth, arrogant, dick and the owner didn't want to bother......after being told off the narcissist couldn't let it go so they made up a claim that it was based on racism. To me this is the Occam's razor in this situation.
2012-12-27 06:16:15 PM  
2 votes:
This story would be more believable if the accusation was that the manager had just claimed to be booked for the date of the party, or if they were to have been shown to charge a higher deposit or fee for African Americans. I suppose it's possible, but I find it hard to believe that even the dumbest and most racist restaurant manager would be this blatant. Now seeing the guy's history I feel comfortable that this is 100% bullshiat.
2012-12-27 05:39:37 PM  
2 votes:
Wait a second here.  The person wanting to have the party stated that it would be "100% african american".  So who's being racist?
2012-12-27 05:39:20 PM  
2 votes:
This kind of behavior is not an isolated incident from Cordish. They also manage KC Live in Downtown Kansas City which also has a Maker's Mark restaurant in it. They have been accused of racism in a round-about way with their dress code. I hate racism, but I can also see where Cordish is coming from in their thinking. It's wrong to do what they're doing, but at the same time, anecdotal evidence from the past at least in the Downtown KC area says exactly what they're basing their policy on; violence and other incidents are predominantly African American historically. Still more, correlation does not equal causation. Cordish needs to completely remove race from their entrance policy altogether. Someone there has their head up their asses for not learning from years of repeated discrimination accusations.
2012-12-27 05:05:24 PM  
2 votes:
The restaurant only licenses the name.
2012-12-28 07:35:20 PM  
1 votes:

Langdon_777: Must say I cringed more from some of the comments to the article than to the article itself.


Look again. They deleted most of them, saying a lot were from one place.
2012-12-28 10:12:53 AM  
1 votes:
Jesus Christ have you people read some of the comments on that page?
2012-12-28 08:59:05 AM  
1 votes:
People have tried to call the place racist because they banned sports jerseys and sagging pants.

In Louisville it's mostly white trash from the Dixie Highway corridor wearing that stuff, so I'm not sure where those racist claims were coming from.
2012-12-28 05:53:33 AM  
1 votes:
Must say I cringed more from some of the comments to the article than to the article itself.
2012-12-27 09:35:31 PM  
1 votes:
the kitten. named steve after the other redhead in the house.
tho she didnt need a sweater, this was in africa.
steve's a brit, he called the sweater a "gilet". brits are weird.
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2012-12-27 06:44:15 PM  
1 votes:
scubamage
"... I'm on their "Maker's Mark Ambassador" program"

Me too, I love all the free stuff they send out. Last years xmas gift was a knit sweater for a bottle. We cut out arm holes and put it on my sister's cat.
/csb
2012-12-27 06:40:52 PM  
1 votes:

FlameDuck: To my black list they go and that's not a pun or reference to race. I hope Jack Daniels doesn't succumb to this kind of behavior.


Did you even read the article? Makers Mark DOESN'T OWN THE ESTABLISHMENT IN QUESTION. It licenses its name out, and has absolutely nothing to do with the racism you dumb fark.
2012-12-27 06:39:42 PM  
1 votes:
letrole
"It's simple. The dude is a liar and knave.

http://www.courier-journal.com/artic le/20121222/NEWS01/312220053/Law su it-alleges-racism-Maker-s-Mark-Bourbon -House

From the above link:

"Mulligan, who is described in the suit as a University of Louisville graduate with bachelor's degrees in political science and history, has been involved in at least two other lawsuits involving restaurants, and he was arrested in September following an incident at a downtown Louisville nightclub.


"In 2008, he was denied permanent disability benefits stemming from an injury he received while working at McDonald's. In 2011, he sued Applebee's for personal injury, but the case was dismissed."

This is what happens when you major in history and political science. You end up working in fast food and trying to make a buck through frivolous lawsuits...
2012-12-27 06:11:02 PM  
1 votes:

Fleet: I went to the distillery back in November with my girlfriend and her family. Got to taste the Maker's White that you can get only on site, and they ended the tour with bourbon chocolates which were delicious.

The point to that story is I have a girlfriend.

Honest.


Odd, I would have thought Real Dolls would have been unwelcome on the tour...

On a serious note though, the distillery tour is pretty awesome. Hoping to make the trip soon.
2012-12-27 06:10:06 PM  
1 votes:
Bourbon: when Tequiza just won't cut it
2012-12-27 06:08:34 PM  
1 votes:
letrole: It's simple. The dude is a liar and knave.

j__z : The story sounded a little strange to begin with.

Counter-culture type magazines and blogs have picked this up. The linked article (and a fair number of restaurant blogs) for this thread is pretty much repeating what's been said by alternet.

The supposed facts are completely outrageous. It just didn't happen like that. And taking into account the history of Mulligan, it's possible that nothing actually happened at all.
2012-12-27 06:04:01 PM  
1 votes:
I went to the distillery back in November with my girlfriend and her family. Got to taste the Maker's White that you can get only on site, and they ended the tour with bourbon chocolates which were delicious.

The point to that story is I have a girlfriend.

Honest.
2012-12-27 06:00:08 PM  
1 votes:
Buffalo Trace is better anyway and usually same price or cheaper.
2012-12-27 05:56:45 PM  
1 votes:
To my black list they go and that's not a pun or reference to race. I hope Jack Daniels doesn't succumb to this kind of behavior.
2012-12-27 05:49:43 PM  
1 votes:

cretinbob:
To be fair, I didn't appreciate liquor until I was an adult. It all tasted the same in college.


Agreed. Once I had a taste of Booker's, I never looked back.
2012-12-27 05:46:37 PM  
1 votes:

scubamage: If you license your name to someone who drags it through the mud constantly, it's time to revoke the license. I'm on their "Maker's Mark Ambassador" program and they actually sent documentation out explaining that all of the complaints against the bourbon house are because of the licensees and not Maker's Mark. And that was more than a year ago. It makes them look bad, period.

And you'd have to question their convictions against the behavior if they don't take punitive action against the licensee. I can't believe their attorneys wouldn't include wording allowing them to do so in their contract.


This. The "it's only a licensee" excuse only works the first time. If shiat like this has happened before and they didn't lay down the law hard, they're responsible too.
2012-12-27 05:41:20 PM  
1 votes:

OgreMagi: Wait a second here.  The person wanting to have the party stated that it would be "100% african american".  So who's being racist?


i wonder just how many of those self proclaimed african-american's have dual citizenship... thus they are liars!!!!
2012-12-27 05:26:49 PM  
1 votes:
As mentioned, but needs to be said again, the eatery only licensed the name.
Much like Sprecher's goofed and licensed their good name to a place that provides (being polite) sub-par food. Really sub-par food and service.
2012-12-27 05:19:21 PM  
1 votes:
I hope this doesn't cause 4th Street Live to shut down, I love having it in my city. It serves 2 purposes well.

It keeps the rednecks that are "goin to da city" the fark away from the Highlands and Frankfort Ave.

And it keeps the frat boy douchebags occupied as well.


/So many better(and cheaper) places to go out in Louisville than 4SL.
2012-12-27 05:17:31 PM  
1 votes:
If you license your name to someone who drags it through the mud constantly, it's time to revoke the license. I'm on their "Maker's Mark Ambassador" program and they actually sent documentation out explaining that all of the complaints against the bourbon house are because of the licensees and not Maker's Mark. And that was more than a year ago. It makes them look bad, period.

And you'd have to question their convictions against the behavior if they don't take punitive action against the licensee. I can't believe their attorneys wouldn't include wording allowing them to do so in their contract.
2012-12-27 05:14:29 PM  
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: Meh, their bourbon is expensive Jack Daniels anyway.


www.troll.me
T be fair, I didn't appreciate liquor until I was an adult. It all tasted the same in college.

MM needs to get their lawyers to pull their name from the restaurant pronto. Apparently MM isn't even  being sued, just the management company.
2012-12-27 05:13:25 PM  
1 votes:
My brother sent an article about this to me yesterday knowing how much I love MM. In fact, I got a lovely bottle of it for Christmas. I've been to the distillery and to this restaurant. I did not have any issues there, although I don't doubt that this occurred. It seems like the corporate folks are "taking this very seriously." I will continue to enjoy MM.

suthrnrunt: I thought their target market were crackers already.


I don't know about that. It's quite popular within my (mostly back) circle of friends.

/We may not be a good indicator, though, since we also prefer classic rock to hip hop and rap.
2012-12-27 05:07:30 PM  
1 votes:
Naturally I'd like to wait and hear the restaurants side. But damn. If its true, I hope those guys own that place by the time the lawsuits done.
 
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