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(Sports Illustrated)   The Bears, who have gone 2 and 5 after starting 7 and 1, accuse Stafford of folding under pressure   (tracking.si.com) divider line 54
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2012-12-27 12:38:24 PM  
Bears: Say something stupid in the media about upcoming foe, make predictions on epic win

Packers: Come into Bear Den and leave with Bear Rugs

Bears Say something stupid in the media about upcoming foe, make predictions on epic win

Lions: ??? Profit?

It's kinda a funny for a number of reasons, but in a lot of ways, its just pathetic.
 
2012-12-27 12:45:07 PM  
Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.
 
2012-12-27 12:45:42 PM  
Is that like back in 2010 when Urlacher said the Bears were the best team in the NFL and would beat the Patriots, then the Patriots won 34-6?
 
2012-12-27 12:46:34 PM  

Rwa2play: Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.


Note: Henry Melton is a Defensive Line player...

And I am a Packers fan... :)
 
2012-12-27 12:47:22 PM  
Yes, the Lions are dirty and Detroit is a massive shiathole, but I wish Melton would just shut up until after the game is played. We know the Lions already look to injure their opponent to make up for their shiatty play, but now they'll be looking to do it even more.
 
2012-12-27 12:48:22 PM  

mandoskippy: Rwa2play: Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.

Note: Henry Melton is a Defensive Line player...

And I am a Packers fan... :)


Yeah well...you're Packers made them look like a sieve anyway. :)
 
2012-12-27 12:51:04 PM  

Rwa2play: mandoskippy: Rwa2play: Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.

Note: Henry Melton is a Defensive Line player...

And I am a Packers fan... :)

Yeah well...you're Packers made them look like a sieve anyway. :)


Can't argue the point. However, it's as much O-Line as it is Cutler holding on the ball until his security blanket Marshall is somewhat open so he can try to force a bad pass into his loving arms. What is the injury status on Cutler's lady parts for this game?
 
2012-12-27 12:51:39 PM  

mandoskippy: Note: Henry Melton is a Defensive Line player...

And I am a Packers fan...


He did make the Pro Bowl, so people outside of Chicago are definitely aware of him. Still mind-boggling that the guy was originally a running back at Texas before switching to defense.
 
2012-12-27 12:52:15 PM  

mandoskippy: Rwa2play: Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.

Note: Henry Melton is a Defensive Line player...

And I am a Packers fan... :)


Hey, Melton is doing Cutler a favor by keeping the offense off the field as long as possible.
 
2012-12-27 12:53:40 PM  

mandoskippy: Rwa2play: mandoskippy: Rwa2play: Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.

Note: Henry Melton is a Defensive Line player...

And I am a Packers fan... :)

Yeah well...you're Packers made them look like a sieve anyway. :)

Can't argue the point. However, it's as much O-Line as it is Cutler holding on the ball until his security blanket Marshall is somewhat open so he can try to force a bad pass into his loving arms. What is the injury status on Cutler's lady parts for this game?


Maybe that time of the month for Jay. :)
 
2012-12-27 12:54:36 PM  

Rwa2play: Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-27 01:24:32 PM  

Rwa2play: Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.


I'm against pre-game trash-talk, but if there was a time it could be tolerated, that time is now. Melton's a pro-bowl defensive player (as others have pointed out), and the Lions are almost back to their normal pre-2011 ways. Last time they met, Stafford couldn't hit the end-zone until garbage time (30 seconds left). While the Bears can't consistently do shiat offensively, I think the defense can safely talk a little trash against the Lions.

/The Bears have knocked Stafford out of the game twice in the past few years; the Lions have knocked Cutler out once (when he was a Bronco). Hopefully it's not Cutler's turn.

machoprogrammer: Is that like back in 2010 when Urlacher said the Bears were the best team in the NFL and would beat the Patriots, then the Patriots won 34-6?


That's why I don't like pre-game trash-talk. Also see a few weeks ago versus GB... again.
 
2012-12-27 01:28:28 PM  
Also, "Bears" don't accuse Stafford of that. One did. Another Bear is busy praising the competition, and talking about how he doesn't know how to shut down Calvin Johnson.
 
2012-12-27 01:40:44 PM  

skrame: Also, "Bears" don't accuse Stafford of that. One did. Another Bear is busy praising the competition, and talking about how he doesn't know how to shut down Calvin Johnson.


That's because Tillman is awesome, and is a praiseworthy person.

But seriously, Raiola? I've been watching him from the opponent's side for years. Can't think of an O-Lineman I respect more. Guy is great and had to play through the Millen years.
 
2012-12-27 01:56:08 PM  

thecpt: skrame: Also, "Bears" don't accuse Stafford of that. One did. Another Bear is busy praising the competition, and talking about how he doesn't know how to shut down Calvin Johnson.

That's because Tillman is awesome, and is a praiseworthy person.

But seriously, Raiola? I've been watching him from the opponent's side for years. Can't think of an O-Lineman I respect more. Guy is great and had to play through the Millen years.


I'd sound like this too if I had to play through the Millen years. "He's more just cuss words, bad language".
 
2012-12-27 02:17:31 PM  
www.tshirtlaundry.com
 
2012-12-27 02:24:13 PM  
Good lord.  Only 16 posts in and you're already at a critical mass of stupid in here.
 
2012-12-27 02:25:37 PM  
Next headline on Monday: Henry Melton suffers career ending groin injury in Lions game.
 
2012-12-27 02:40:43 PM  
So why not do it this way:
Play the Packers-Vikings game early.
If Vikings win - Bears-Lions game is meaningless - don't play - let the crybabies have the win, and cheaters get higher draft pick.
If Packers win - play the game - once again, probably meaningless as I can't see Detroit winning against anyone at this point, but Stafford-CJ can set more records.

Or, just disqualify the Lions from the game - like forever - stop embarrassing the state of Michigan. They have never, and will never be in contention for winning.
Last year was peak - we have to wait another 10 years or so to see mediocre again.

/Lions fan - but ashamed - I can't stop watching week after week.
//Like RugbyJock photoshop links or 'hot girl' front page links - I know better, but I just have to see what kind of train wreck is waiting to be seen.
 
2012-12-27 02:45:20 PM  
Hey, that's not fair! Everyone knows Stafford hasn't been the same since that... "incident"... with Ed Hochuli.

i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-27 02:46:16 PM  
I'd say the schedule has a lot to do with that change in direction.

First 8 games...not a lot of quality opponents.

Last 7 games...many more quality opponents.
 
2012-12-27 02:47:59 PM  

Captain Steroid: Hey, that's not fair! Everyone knows Stafford hasn't been the same since that... "incident"... with Ed Hochuli.

[i1182.photobucket.com image 475x360]


Ed Hochuli = Stan Hansen's younger brother?

/not obscure
 
2012-12-27 02:55:26 PM  
Too bad the Lions can't give Stafford and Calvin Johnson an offensive line and a running game..and a defense...and a kick returner...and a...  Aw hell, this is the Lions...we're used to squandering talent...remember Barry Sanders?
 
2012-12-27 02:59:44 PM  

slayer199: Too bad the Lions can't give Stafford and Calvin Johnson an offensive line and a running game..and a defense...and a kick returner...and a...  Aw hell, this is the Lions...we're used to squandering talent...remember Barry Sanders?


I think their line is pretty good. Jahvid Best was a beast and its not often that someone ends their career after 3 years due to concussions. Really, they could be a good team this year but an air raid style offense that only has one receiver isn't going to get it done.
 
2012-12-27 03:00:11 PM  

slayer199: Too bad the Lions can't give Stafford and Calvin Johnson an offensive line and a running game..and a defense secondary...and a kick returner...and a...


FTFY

Aw hell, this is the Lions...we're used to squandering talent...remember Barry Sanders?

Yeah, that much is true.
 
2012-12-27 03:07:27 PM  

thecpt: I think their line is pretty good. Jahvid Best was a beast and its not often that someone ends their career after 3 years due to concussions. Really, they could be a good team this year but an air raid style offense that only has one receiver isn't going to get it done


I don't think their line is particularly good, but as problems go on the Lions their secondary is by far the biggest.
 
2012-12-27 03:08:44 PM  
The Lions, frankly, are too good of a team to have wound up 4-12 or 5-11 (depending on the upcoming result). Someone call Brian Billick!
 
2012-12-27 03:31:54 PM  

srhp29: I'd say the schedule has a lot to do with that change in direction.

First 8 games...not a lot of quality opponents.

Last 7 games...many more quality opponents.


I'd say their record has a lot to do with injuries, seeing as we went through a stretch where almost all of our key players were injured - and in the 1st year of the new GM, we don't really have the depth to work in that type of situation.

We've had concussions out the backside, Forte has injured his ankle three times this season. Peppers has actually finally started producing now that his debilitating foot injury that most people would be reduced to tears with has finally started to resolve itself. In addition to that, we've been forced to use practice squad players on our O-Line due to the amount of injured players we've had there - and our starters weren't good to begin with. Hell, we had our special-teams-only linebacker in for the Vikings game because our backup was out.

So, while people make quips about schedule - I would love to play those teams again with even a reasonable healthy roster.
 
2012-12-27 03:37:02 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: srhp29: I'd say the schedule has a lot to do with that change in direction.

First 8 games...not a lot of quality opponents.

Last 7 games...many more quality opponents.

I'd say their record has a lot to do with injuries, seeing as we went through a stretch where almost all of our key players were injured - and in the 1st year of the new GM, we don't really have the depth to work in that type of situation.

We've had concussions out the backside, Forte has injured his ankle three times this season. Peppers has actually finally started producing now that his debilitating foot injury that most people would be reduced to tears with has finally started to resolve itself. In addition to that, we've been forced to use practice squad players on our O-Line due to the amount of injured players we've had there - and our starters weren't good to begin with. Hell, we had our special-teams-only linebacker in for the Vikings game because our backup was out.

So, while people make quips about schedule - I would love to play those teams again with even a reasonable healthy roster.


The Seahawks managed to have their best stretch of the season starting their 5th and 6th (in nickel) CBs. Outscored opponents 50-10 on average.
 
2012-12-27 03:37:33 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: srhp29: I'd say the schedule has a lot to do with that change in direction.

First 8 games...not a lot of quality opponents.

Last 7 games...many more quality opponents.

I'd say their record has a lot to do with injuries, seeing as we went through a stretch where almost all of our key players were injured - and in the 1st year of the new GM, we don't really have the depth to work in that type of situation.

We've had concussions out the backside, Forte has injured his ankle three times this season. Peppers has actually finally started producing now that his debilitating foot injury that most people would be reduced to tears with has finally started to resolve itself. In addition to that, we've been forced to use practice squad players on our O-Line due to the amount of injured players we've had there - and our starters weren't good to begin with. Hell, we had our special-teams-only linebacker in for the Vikings game because our backup was out.

So, while people make quips about schedule - I would love to play those teams again with even a reasonable healthy roster.


Yeah, but that goes for a lot of teams in the NFL. Exhibit #1: The Giants. Last year they got healthy at the right time: Super Bowl. This year they've been nicked up; now they're most likely out of the playoffs.
 
2012-12-27 03:43:28 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: srhp29: I'd say the schedule has a lot to do with that change in direction.

First 8 games...not a lot of quality opponents.

Last 7 games...many more quality opponents.

I'd say their record has a lot to do with injuries, seeing as we went through a stretch where almost all of our key players were injured - and in the 1st year of the new GM, we don't really have the depth to work in that type of situation.

We've had concussions out the backside, Forte has injured his ankle three times this season. Peppers has actually finally started producing now that his debilitating foot injury that most people would be reduced to tears with has finally started to resolve itself. In addition to that, we've been forced to use practice squad players on our O-Line due to the amount of injured players we've had there - and our starters weren't good to begin with. Hell, we had our special-teams-only linebacker in for the Vikings game because our backup was out.

So, while people make quips about schedule - I would love to play those teams again with even a reasonable healthy roster.


Packers injuries:

Starting LB Desmond Bishop - IR
Starting LB Nick Perry - IR
Starting LB DJ Smith (Bishop's replacement) - IR
Starting OT Bryan Bulaga - IR
Starting? OT Derrik Sherrod - IR from last year still
Starting LB Clay Matthews - missed 4.5 games
Staring WR Greg Jennings - missed 6+ games
Starting WR Jordy Nelson - missed tons of games
Starting RB Cedric Benson - IR
Starting S Charles Woodson - missed 6+ games
Staring CB Sam Shields - missed 6 games
DT Jerel Worthy - missed 4+games
DT CJ Wilson - missed ? games
RB James Staarks - has he played this year?
[I probably missed a bunch]

At one point the Packers were not playing their last four first round draft picks. So, uh, while injuries do suck my sympathy level is a little low.
 
2012-12-27 03:49:04 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: At one point the Packers were not playing their last four first round draft picks. So, uh, while injuries do suck my sympathy level is a little low.


(Scanning) I think you missed Jermichael (like that matters), Raji, Zombo, and Walden,

People keep trying to say we're overrated, but honestly 11-4 and getting healthy at the right time could mean a great playoff run. Our defense has played superbly considering how many starters have missed 3+ games.
 
2012-12-27 03:52:05 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: At one point the Packers were not playing their last four first round draft picks.


You can do that just as well by terrible drafting (oh, hey there Bears) in the first round as you can with injuries. The Bears last five first rounders are a situational pass rusher (although he's been solid as a rookie and could be more as he bulks up), an offensive lineman who was benched, a tight end they traded, an offensive lineman who has been cut, and Cedric Benson.
 
2012-12-27 03:57:06 PM  
'he says bad words!'
 
2012-12-27 04:04:13 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: srhp29: I'd say the schedule has a lot to do with that change in direction.

First 8 games...not a lot of quality opponents.

Last 7 games...many more quality opponents.

I'd say their record has a lot to do with injuries, seeing as we went through a stretch where almost all of our key players were injured - and in the 1st year of the new GM, we don't really have the depth to work in that type of situation.

We've had concussions out the backside, Forte has injured his ankle three times this season. Peppers has actually finally started producing now that his debilitating foot injury that most people would be reduced to tears with has finally started to resolve itself. In addition to that, we've been forced to use practice squad players on our O-Line due to the amount of injured players we've had there - and our starters weren't good to begin with. Hell, we had our special-teams-only linebacker in for the Vikings game because our backup was out.

So, while people make quips about schedule - I would love to play those teams again with even a reasonable healthy roster.


It wasn't a quip...It was a fact. Their last 7 games when taken as a whole are much more difficult than their first 8 whether healthy or not. The Bears health has nothing to do with the quality of their opponents.
 
2012-12-27 04:07:57 PM  
To be fair, if there is anybody who knows about folding under pressure, it's the Bears O'line.
 
2012-12-27 04:19:19 PM  
Also don't forget Marshall Newhouse going down too.
 
2012-12-27 04:22:13 PM  
Well subby, that would make them EXPERTS on the subject I would think.
 
2012-12-27 05:08:11 PM  

thecpt: SkittlesAreYum: At one point the Packers were not playing their last four first round draft picks. So, uh, while injuries do suck my sympathy level is a little low.

(Scanning) I think you missed Jermichael (like that matters), Raji, Zombo, and Walden,

People keep trying to say we're overrated, but honestly 11-4 and getting healthy at the right time could mean a great playoff run. Our defense has played superbly considering how many starters have missed 3+ games.


No one counts Finley injuries because injuries that help the team don't count.
 
2012-12-27 05:09:05 PM  
No one counts Finley injuries because injuries that help the team don't count.
 
2012-12-27 05:56:45 PM  

SlagginOff: Yes, the Lions are dirty and Detroit is a massive shiathole, but I wish Melton would just shut up until after the game is played. We know the Lions already look to injure their opponent to make up for their shiatty play, but now they'll be looking to do it even more.


xkcdcitationneeded.jpg

/Go Lions!
//Not sure if I want them to take Te'o in the top 5 or to trade the pick for a few lower draft picks, and get a bunch of decent players rather than a few potential stars.
 
2012-12-27 06:12:48 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: srhp29: I'd say the schedule has a lot to do with that change in direction.

First 8 games...not a lot of quality opponents.

Last 7 games...many more quality opponents.

I'd say their record has a lot to do with injuries, seeing as we went through a stretch where almost all of our key players were injured - and in the 1st year of the new GM, we don't really have the depth to work in that type of situation.

We've had concussions out the backside, Forte has injured his ankle three times this season. Peppers has actually finally started producing now that his debilitating foot injury that most people would be reduced to tears with has finally started to resolve itself. In addition to that, we've been forced to use practice squad players on our O-Line due to the amount of injured players we've had there - and our starters weren't good to begin with. Hell, we had our special-teams-only linebacker in for the Vikings game because our backup was out.

So, while people make quips about schedule - I would love to play those teams again with even a reasonable healthy roster.


With how old that team was coming into the season, do the injuries really surprise you?
 
2012-12-27 06:15:33 PM  

Techhell: SlagginOff: Yes, the Lions are dirty and Detroit is a massive shiathole, but I wish Melton would just shut up until after the game is played. We know the Lions already look to injure their opponent to make up for their shiatty play, but now they'll be looking to do it even more.

xkcdcitationneeded.jpg

/Go Lions!
//Not sure if I want them to take Te'o in the top 5 or to trade the pick for a few lower draft picks, and get a bunch of decent players rather than a few potential stars.


Their problem on defense is a lack of stars. They have decent already, well, except those DBs.
 
2012-12-27 07:17:07 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: DeathByGeekSquad: srhp29: I'd say the schedule has a lot to do with that change in direction.

First 8 games...not a lot of quality opponents.

Last 7 games...many more quality opponents.

I'd say their record has a lot to do with injuries, seeing as we went through a stretch where almost all of our key players were injured - and in the 1st year of the new GM, we don't really have the depth to work in that type of situation.

We've had concussions out the backside, Forte has injured his ankle three times this season. Peppers has actually finally started producing now that his debilitating foot injury that most people would be reduced to tears with has finally started to resolve itself. In addition to that, we've been forced to use practice squad players on our O-Line due to the amount of injured players we've had there - and our starters weren't good to begin with. Hell, we had our special-teams-only linebacker in for the Vikings game because our backup was out.

So, while people make quips about schedule - I would love to play those teams again with even a reasonable healthy roster.

Packers injuries:

Starting LB Desmond Bishop - IR
Starting LB Nick Perry - IR
Starting LB DJ Smith (Bishop's replacement) - IR
Starting OT Bryan Bulaga - IR
Starting? OT Derrik Sherrod - IR from last year still
Starting LB Clay Matthews - missed 4.5 games
Staring WR Greg Jennings - missed 6+ games
Starting WR Jordy Nelson - missed tons of games
Starting RB Cedric Benson - IR
Starting S Charles Woodson - missed 6+ games
Staring CB Sam Shields - missed 6 games
DT Jerel Worthy - missed 4+games
DT CJ Wilson - missed ? games
RB James Staarks - has he played this year?
[I probably missed a bunch]

At one point the Packers were not playing their last four first round draft picks. So, uh, while injuries do suck my sympathy level is a little low.


Congratulations, try having Angelo as your GM for a bit and see how well your team does with depth.
 
2012-12-27 07:29:30 PM  

Rwa2play: Captain Steroid: Hey, that's not fair! Everyone knows Stafford hasn't been the same since that... "incident"... with Ed Hochuli.

[i1182.photobucket.com image 475x360]

Ed Hochuli = Stan Hansen's younger brother?

/not obscure


How DARE you imply that Hochuli is related to the coward than ran away from Bruno Sammartino at Shea Stadium! How DARE you! :P
 
2012-12-27 07:49:09 PM  

Techhell: SlagginOff: Yes, the Lions are dirty and Detroit is a massive shiathole, but I wish Melton would just shut up until after the game is played. We know the Lions already look to injure their opponent to make up for their shiatty play, but now they'll be looking to do it even more.

xkcdcitationneeded.jpg

/Go Lions!
//Not sure if I want them to take Te'o in the top 5 or to trade the pick for a few lower draft picks, and get a bunch of decent players rather than a few potential stars.


My citation is watching Suh play.
 
2012-12-27 08:49:13 PM  

SlagginOff: Techhell: SlagginOff: Yes, the Lions are dirty and Detroit is a massive shiathole, but I wish Melton would just shut up until after the game is played. We know the Lions already look to injure their opponent to make up for their shiatty play, but now they'll be looking to do it even more.

xkcdcitationneeded.jpg

/Go Lions!
//Not sure if I want them to take Te'o in the top 5 or to trade the pick for a few lower draft picks, and get a bunch of decent players rather than a few potential stars.

My citation is watching Suh play.


Son, you're gonna have to do a whole lot better than just parroting what you hear the moron class of TV Journalists and Internet Fantasy League general managers chatter about if you want to make points that don't make intelligent people break out into laughter.
 
2012-12-27 09:26:55 PM  

Captain Steroid: Rwa2play: Captain Steroid: Hey, that's not fair! Everyone knows Stafford hasn't been the same since that... "incident"... with Ed Hochuli.

[i1182.photobucket.com image 475x360]

Ed Hochuli = Stan Hansen's younger brother?

/not obscure

How DARE you imply that Hochuli is related to the coward than ran away from Bruno Sammartino at Shea Stadium! How DARE you! :P


Oh, I'm not talking about THAT version of Stan Hansen...

I'm talking about THIS ONE.

/Yeah, yeah same guy
//but this version is BADASS~!
 
2012-12-28 08:35:30 AM  

Techhell: SlagginOff: Techhell: SlagginOff: Yes, the Lions are dirty and Detroit is a massive shiathole, but I wish Melton would just shut up until after the game is played. We know the Lions already look to injure their opponent to make up for their shiatty play, but now they'll be looking to do it even more.

xkcdcitationneeded.jpg

/Go Lions!
//Not sure if I want them to take Te'o in the top 5 or to trade the pick for a few lower draft picks, and get a bunch of decent players rather than a few potential stars.

My citation is watching Suh play.

Son, you're gonna have to do a whole lot better than just parroting what you hear the moron class of TV Journalists and Internet Fantasy League general managers chatter about if you want to make points that don't make intelligent people break out into laughter.


I don't pay attention to fantasy anything because I have a life, "son." You don't have to defend a thug just because he's on the team you root for.
 
2012-12-28 10:59:43 AM  

Rwa2play: Memo to Mr. Melton:

You and the rest of the Bears O-Line resemble a sieve; you have no place to talk crap about anyone else at this point.


Normally, it bothers me when someone talks crap about this line, because they really ARE way better than their reputation (because jay cutler sucks and somehow the line gets blamed because bear fan refuses to see that jay cutler sucks), however, since you dont know what position Mr Melton plays, I dont have to worry that anyone might take your seriously flawed opinion seriously.
 
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