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2012-12-27 12:42:06 PM
But all these things are coincidences and accidents, and there is absolutely nothing to see or think about or connect.

No pieces of this connect at all.

None.



Ah good, the author seems to understand the definition of "coincidence."
 
2012-12-27 01:27:30 PM
ah geez not this again

img197.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-27 01:59:03 PM
intellectualrevolutionary.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-27 02:07:43 PM
Fun Fact: If you purchase and consume each and every product advertised on the right hand side of that page you will still be unemployable at careers involving working indoors.
 
2012-12-27 02:08:33 PM
First you had that gust of wind you named Sandy, then Sandy Hook gets shot up? Don't you see? It's all so clear.
 
2012-12-27 02:31:44 PM
Well obviously government agents are so smug about their plans they put details like that into major media items just because they know they are so smart.

But then, Mr. Tin McFoil sees them you see. Because he is so much smarter than all these government agents.
 
2012-12-27 02:31:47 PM

Slaxl: First you had that gust of wind you named Sandy, then Sandy Hook gets shot up? Don't you see? It's all so clear.


FARTBONGO'S SEKRET WEATHER CONRTOLL DEVICE TO KILL WHITE PEOPLE!!!
 
2012-12-27 02:31:48 PM
The derp is strong with Sandy Hoax
 
2012-12-27 02:33:34 PM
Author has sandy in the vagina.
 
2012-12-27 02:34:15 PM
Sandy....Sandy Duncan.....Duncan Hines.......Heinz 57......57 states........

This goes all the way to the top. You sheeple are just too brainwashed to see what's right in front of your faces.
 
2012-12-27 02:34:16 PM
Every day Fark gets a little closer to resembling all those conspiracy forums...
 
2012-12-27 02:34:44 PM
Woof means woof...
 
2012-12-27 02:34:47 PM
shiat, I'm having dinner in Sandy, Utah tonight. I'm farked.
 
2012-12-27 02:35:28 PM
Yeah, I found out about this through Alex Jones and his "Sandy Hook is a hoax" nonsense on YouTube.
 
2012-12-27 02:36:19 PM
Somewhere at the end of the first draft of that article were the words:

Meanwhile, [...] with the final chapter still unwritten and the presses scheduled to start rolling in twenty-four hours . . . . unless somebody shows up pretty soon with extremely powerful speed, there might notbe a final chapter. About four fingers of king-hell Crank would do the trick, but I am not optimistic."
 
2012-12-27 02:36:28 PM
The author of this article has clearly spent many hours sitting and wondering why-ai-ai..
 
2012-12-27 02:36:42 PM
Is there anything in the article about how the whole movie was nothing more than a right-wing propaganda piece detailing how the proles wouldn't know what to do with money if they had it, and the government is useless, so we should just give everything to the .1% since they are the only ones capable of handling it?
 
2012-12-27 02:36:53 PM
Great, can we ban the movie now?

/You know, since it really sucked.
 
2012-12-27 02:37:36 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Sandy....Sandy Duncan.....Duncan Hines.......Heinz 57......57 states........

This goes all the way to the top. You sheeple are just too brainwashed to see what's right in front of your faces.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net
You might be onto somehting there.
 
2012-12-27 02:37:47 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Sandy....Sandy Duncan.....Duncan Hines.......Heinz 57......57 states........

This goes all the way to the top. You sheeple are just too brainwashed to see what's right in front of your faces.


SOYLENT GREEN IS MADE OF KETCHUP!!!!
 
2012-12-27 02:38:16 PM

Jclark666: shiat, I'm having dinner in Sandy, Utah tonight. I'm farked.


Get out of there now!
 
2012-12-27 02:38:39 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Fun Fact: If you purchase and consume each and every product advertised on the right hand side of that page you will still be unemployable at careers involving working indoors.


www.naturalnews.com
Go ahead, believe our news.
 
2012-12-27 02:38:54 PM
And The Big Lebowski foresaw 9/11:

assets.flavorwire.com
 
2012-12-27 02:39:11 PM

ChipNASA: Slaxl: First you had that gust of wind you named Sandy, then Sandy Hook gets shot up? Don't you see? It's all so clear.

FARTBONGO'S SEKRET WEATHER CONRTOLL DEVICE TO KILL WHITE PEOPLE!!!


Fox News has shocking images of the structure that holds this device, and it's deadly effects!

timemachine.cncworld.org

www.mobygames.com

Surely this is what we get for not voting for Mitt Romney.
 
2012-12-27 02:39:32 PM

Jclark666: shiat, I'm having dinner in Sandy, Utah tonight. I'm farked.


Hell that's where Splat LIVES. If you're farked, what does that make Splat?
 
2012-12-27 02:39:56 PM
Sandy Hook / Ricki Lake?

/Where are you, Ricki Lake?
 
2012-12-27 02:40:57 PM

tricycleracer: And The Big Lebowski foresaw 9/11:

[assets.flavorwire.com image 450x242]


So did The Matrix.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-27 02:41:45 PM

LordJiro: tricycleracer: And The Big Lebowski foresaw 9/11:

[assets.flavorwire.com image 450x242]

So did The Matrix.

[i.imgur.com image 432x198]


Whoa!
 
2012-12-27 02:42:17 PM
And one of the bits of New Jersey inundated by Superstorm Sandy was...Sandy Hook!

So was Asbury Park, part of the name of the Bruce Springsteen Song "4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)"!

Do you REALIZE what this MEANS?!?

/me neither.
 
2012-12-27 02:43:40 PM

Mister Peejay: Is there anything in the article about how the whole movie was nothing more than a right-wing propaganda piece detailing how the proles wouldn't know what to do with money if they had it, and the government is useless, so we should just give everything to the .1% since they are the only ones capable of handling it?


^^^ THIS
 
2012-12-27 02:44:14 PM
I remember when the movie The China Syndrome first came out, numerous pundits panned it for being an alarmist pile of trash - "there's nothing dangerous with nuclear power"

Then about a week or so after the release of the film there was the near-meltdown incident at Three Mile Island in Harrisburg, PA.  The pundits shut their mouths and went away.

One of the quotes of the movie actually went something like "an area the size of Pennsylvania" would be permanently uninhabitable from a meltdown accident.

Talk about a creepy feeling when I saw this in the theater.
 
2012-12-27 02:45:55 PM
blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com
 
2012-12-27 02:47:29 PM

Teknowaffle: Well obviously government agents are so smug about their plans they put details like that into major media items just because they know they are so smart.

But then, Mr. Tin McFoil sees them you see. Because he is so much smarter than all these government agents.


Here's the explanation, and I'm not making this up. You see, the elite (illuminati types) are occultists who worship Babylonian gods like Ba'al and Moloch. They derive spiritual power from their control of those who choose not to see, but to receive this power they must tell those whom they control what they are doing. They do not have to tell them outright, but they must show their messages in plain sight. It will be right in front of people's faces, but they do not see it. They were still told, so the illuminati types still receive their demonic spiritual power. Again, this is the actual explanation given by conspiracy theorists. Again, I am not making this up.
 
2012-12-27 02:48:38 PM
Captain Hook sailed his pirate ship past sandy beaches!
 
2012-12-27 02:48:57 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-27 02:49:04 PM
A Tale of Two Cities: Aurora and Newtown. It all makes so much sense now.
 
2012-12-27 02:49:23 PM
Natural News: for crazies, by crazies.
 
2012-12-27 02:50:46 PM
Derpanasia needs to be legalized.
 
2012-12-27 02:51:01 PM

hubcity: And one of the bits of New Jersey inundated by Superstorm Sandy was...Sandy Hook!

So was Asbury Park, part of the name of the Bruce Springsteen Song "4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)"!

Do you REALIZE what this MEANS?!?

/me neither.


And Bruce Springsteen sang at the fundraiser for Sandy relief...
 
2012-12-27 02:52:02 PM
My cup of derp runneth over.
 
2012-12-27 02:52:37 PM

jigger: Teknowaffle: Well obviously government agents are so smug about their plans they put details like that into major media items just because they know they are so smart.

But then, Mr. Tin McFoil sees them you see. Because he is so much smarter than all these government agents.

Here's the explanation, and I'm not making this up. You see, the elite (illuminati types) are occultists who worship Babylonian gods like Ba'al and Moloch. They derive spiritual power from their control of those who choose not to see, but to receive this power they must tell those whom they control what they are doing. They do not have to tell them outright, but they must show their messages in plain sight. It will be right in front of people's faces, but they do not see it. They were still told, so the illuminati types still receive their demonic spiritual power. Again, this is the actual explanation given by conspiracy theorists. Again, I am not making this up.


As a Freemason in good standing I approve of this message.
 
2012-12-27 02:53:02 PM
People who believe in reverse logic such as this, also probably think George Bush knocked down the Twin Towers to allow him to go to war with Iraq.
 
2012-12-27 02:53:25 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: I remember when the movie The China Syndrome first came out, numerous pundits panned it for being an alarmist pile of trash - "there's nothing dangerous with nuclear power"

Then about a week or so after the release of the film there was the near-meltdown incident at Three Mile Island in Harrisburg, PA.  The pundits shut their mouths and went away.

One of the quotes of the movie actually went something like "an area the size of Pennsylvania" would be permanently uninhabitable from a meltdown accident.

Talk about a creepy feeling when I saw this in the theater.


Over the last few weeks I've been rewatching Scrubs. There was an episode from 2007 where the hospital argues the war in the middle east. JD asks the janitor what he thought, and he said "I think we should be looking for Bin Laden in Pakistan." I know that lots of people were saying that years ago, but I definitely had a double take moment.
 
2012-12-27 02:53:30 PM

T.rex: People who believe in reverse logic such as this, also probably think George Bush knocked down the Twin Towers to allow him to go to war with Iraq.


well, duh
 
2012-12-27 02:54:07 PM
Was that article written by Robert Anton Wilson? Brought back memories of his books.
 
2012-12-27 02:54:36 PM
If you managed to see Dark Knight Rises through your tinfoil helmet, you may have been shocked to notice that the words "Sandy Hook" appear in one scene. Also, aliens are coming for your dog

fc09.deviantart.net
 
2012-12-27 02:54:51 PM
tdotcomics.caReally? I don't want to be "that girl/guy" to be the Weeners this.
 
2012-12-27 02:55:46 PM

megarian: Really? I don't want to be "that girl/guy" to be the Weeners this.


Lol. Weeniers.
 
2012-12-27 02:58:46 PM
FTA
This is the familiar "Joker" mode of secret societies, in which little foreshadowing clues are placed in significant places. Michael Hoffman, author of Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare, comments on "The Method"
Oooohhh........ 27 Years ago, M Hoffman murdered several people in Utah, and was Outed as a forger by Sandy Tanner
 
2012-12-27 03:00:08 PM

Phony_Soldier: LordJiro: tricycleracer: And The Big Lebowski foresaw 9/11:

[assets.flavorwire.com image 450x242]

So did The Matrix.

[i.imgur.com image 432x198]

Whoa!


The date on Lebowski's check is 9-11-91. That's the same day Neo's passport was issued.

Also, I wonder how much that Ralph's card would fetch on Ebay?
 
2012-12-27 03:00:54 PM
All of this is part of Satan's plan.
 
2012-12-27 03:01:34 PM
I almost forgot...

www.iruntheinternet.com
 
2012-12-27 03:03:06 PM
 
2012-12-27 03:04:06 PM
Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)
 
2012-12-27 03:06:11 PM

UsikFark: Meanwhile, [...] with the final chapter still unwritten and the presses scheduled to start rolling in twenty-four hours . . . . unless somebody shows up pretty soon with extremely powerful speed, there might notbe a final chapter. About four fingers of king-hell Crank would do the trick, but I am not optimistic."


Don't bring that man into this.
 
2012-12-27 03:06:52 PM
I kissed a girl named Sandy!!
 
2012-12-27 03:09:40 PM

Phony_Soldier: LordJiro: tricycleracer: And The Big Lebowski foresaw 9/11:

[assets.flavorwire.com image 450x242]

So did The Matrix.

[i.imgur.com image 432x198]

Whoa!


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-27 03:11:26 PM
Any time you think you might believe this was a hoax, go back and look at the picture of Carlee Soto.
 
2012-12-27 03:12:51 PM

Ecobuckeye: Any time you think you might believe this was a hoax, go back and look at the picture of Carlee Soto.


Think what was a hoax, 26 dead people?
 
2012-12-27 03:15:47 PM
I used to have a dog named Sandy. What does it mean?
 
2012-12-27 03:17:17 PM

kombat_unit: Ecobuckeye: Any time you think you might believe this was a hoax, go back and look at the picture of Carlee Soto.

Think what was a hoax, 26 dead people?


I guess. I don't get it. Some of the links cc_rider provided - including the Ron Paul website - even refer to "parents of alleged victims." This insinuates the victims may not be dead - that none of this even happened. It makes me want to vomit.
 
2012-12-27 03:17:22 PM
You think THAT'S freaky. I went to read the article and after about 10 seconds it jumped to a totally unrelated article and when I went to hit the back button it wasn't bolded, meaning I went forward from a page I was never at and can't get back to. It like was never at the other page. How is possible?

*Mindblown*
 
2012-12-27 03:17:51 PM

Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)


Me too....it loads the right article and displays for about 3-5 seconds and then reloads the page with this Bill of Rights rant. I can't seem to stop it at the right article.
 
2012-12-27 03:18:25 PM
Xaro: I used to have a dog named Sandy. What does it mean?
 expresswrittendissent.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-27 03:21:08 PM

Autumn Moone: Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)

Me too....it loads the right article and displays for about 3-5 seconds and then reloads the page with this Bill of Rights rant. I can't seem to stop it at the right article.


THEY DON'T WANT US TO READ IT!
PUT ON TIN FOIL HATS NOW!
 
2012-12-27 03:21:45 PM

Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)


Same thing happens to me...but I see the Batman article for about a second before the Bill of Rights article replaces it. Must be some kind of conspiracy..
 
2012-12-27 03:22:49 PM

Ecobuckeye: kombat_unit: Ecobuckeye: Any time you think you might believe this was a hoax, go back and look at the picture of Carlee Soto.

Think what was a hoax, 26 dead people?

I guess. I don't get it. Some of the links cc_rider provided - including the Ron Paul website - even refer to "parents of alleged victims." This insinuates the victims may not be dead - that none of this even happened. It makes me want to vomit.


Perhaps it's a defense for libel in case the "facts" change again.
 
2012-12-27 03:22:54 PM
This movie was 2 hours of Batman getting his arse kicked, followed by a lame reference to Robin. Did not like.
 
2012-12-27 03:25:13 PM

ChipNASA: Xaro: I used to have a dog named Sandy. What does it mean?
 [expresswrittendissent.files.wordpress.com image 259x194]


ChipNASA: Xaro: I used to have a dog named Sandy. What does it mean?
 [expresswrittendissent.files.wordpress.com image 259x194]


They use Annie and Sandy to Hook us on a substance...

So, its all a conspiracy to get us to drink more Ovaltine?
 
2012-12-27 03:26:12 PM

Autumn Moone: Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)

Me too....it loads the right article and displays for about 3-5 seconds and then reloads the page with this Bill of Rights rant. I can't seem to stop it at the right article.


Man what a f*cked up website

"I know you came here for a different article but WE REALLY WANT YOU TO READ THIS ONE"

Boy do they know how to drive page views. I mean, to other websites.
 
2012-12-27 03:27:44 PM

Kimpak: This movie was 2 hours of Batman getting his arse kicked, followed by a lame reference to Robin. Did not like.


Thats an allegory for life.... We ALL get our arses kicked. But Bruce met the challenges, and overcame despite immense opposition... Thats the movie i saw.
 
2012-12-27 03:27:48 PM

A Shambling Mound: Autumn Moone: Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)

Me too....it loads the right article and displays for about 3-5 seconds and then reloads the page with this Bill of Rights rant. I can't seem to stop it at the right article.

Man what a f*cked up website

"I know you came here for a different article but WE REALLY WANT YOU TO READ THIS ONE"

Boy do they know how to drive page views. I mean, to other websites.


The 2nd article is far more important than a tin foil screed.
 
2012-12-27 03:27:59 PM
Same bullshiat happened with the Aurora crap, people thinking the killer didn't do it.

The best thing to do, is just let these people say whatever they want and laugh at them.
 
2012-12-27 03:32:46 PM
Well I knew my dog was communicating with aliens, but this?
 
2012-12-27 03:34:05 PM

T.rex: People who believe in reverse logic such as this, also probably think George Bush knocked down the Twin Towers to allow him to go to war with Iraq.

cdn-www.i-am-bored.com
 
2012-12-27 03:38:06 PM

cc_rider: Subby, if you think that Natural News crap is retarded, behold: The Sandy Hook "truthers".

http://www.dailypaul.com/267521/i-think-its-official-the-sandy-hook- ho ax-has-backfired
http://www.gowilkes.com/voice/sandy-hookshooting-hoax/122984/?h=2012 12 27085227
http://http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/sandy-hook-hoax- me dical-examiner-wayne-carver-2521848.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-sandy-hook-school-massacre-unanswer ed -questions-and-missing-information/5316776
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/sandy-hook-shooting-alex- jo nes-take/

Kind of make me want to curl up in a fetal position and weep for how paranoid, gullible and just plain stupid our society has become.



Turn the crazy up to 11! Holy shiat. Lots of tin foil on them heads.
 
2012-12-27 03:38:23 PM

kombat_unit: A Shambling Mound: Autumn Moone: Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)

Me too....it loads the right article and displays for about 3-5 seconds and then reloads the page with this Bill of Rights rant. I can't seem to stop it at the right article.

Man what a f*cked up website

"I know you came here for a different article but WE REALLY WANT YOU TO READ THIS ONE"

Boy do they know how to drive page views. I mean, to other websites.

The 2nd article is far more important than a tin foil screed.


Are you getting the same article I am? The Bill Of Rights article is high comedy.

It's also possible I am simply misunderstanding you.
 
2012-12-27 03:40:45 PM
I love that people immediately smug up when a conspiracy is thrown their way. As if even pondering the idea for a moment would make them retarded. What it would make you is unbias... not retarded.

I'm not saying to believe this or anything else, I'm just saying. People who consider both ideas don't generally react in a smug way.
 
2012-12-27 03:42:03 PM

LookForTheArrow: Mister Peejay: Is there anything in the article about how the whole movie was nothing more than a right-wing propaganda piece detailing how the proles wouldn't know what to do with money if they had it, and the government is useless, so we should just give everything to the .1% since they are the only ones capable of handling it?

^^^ THIS



In that piece, no. But a lot of people have. Also of note is the theme in the last two movies that a compelling enemy of the state legitimizes the issuing of extraordinary powers to a sitting head of state. Damned if Nolan didn't make the only right wing movie series in ages right under everyones noses.
 
2012-12-27 03:43:54 PM
A bunch of namedrops to make sure everyone interested sees this:

Autumn Moone:Walker:Nasty_McFilth: A Shambling Mound: kombat_unit:

Stopping the loading before it changes to the new page fixes it, at least for me on Chrome.
 
2012-12-27 03:45:04 PM

moefuggenbrew: T.rex: People who believe in reverse logic such as this, also probably think George Bush knocked down the Twin Towers to allow him to go to war with Iraq.
[cdn-www.i-am-bored.com image 360x320]


Building 7 was however hit by falling debris and had experienced catastrophic damage on top of being on fire. But hey, the conspiracy theorists found an angle where the damage wasn't visible, so it HAD to be an undamaged building that fell, right?

World Trade Center 7: The Lies Come Crashing Down
 
2012-12-27 03:47:45 PM
Why does TFA switch to a Bill of Rights article now?
 
2012-12-27 03:48:22 PM

hubcity: And one of the bits of New Jersey inundated by Superstorm Sandy was...Sandy Hook!

So was Asbury Park, part of the name of the Bruce Springsteen Song "4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)"!

Do you REALIZE what this MEANS?!?

/me neither.


Also one of the hardest hit areas by Hurricane Sandy in NY was Red Hook. Coincidence? I think not!!!
 
2012-12-27 03:50:00 PM

tuxq: I love that people immediately smug up when a conspiracy is thrown their way. As if even pondering the idea for a moment would make them retarded. What it would make you is unbias... not retarded.

I'm not saying to believe this or anything else, I'm just saying. People who consider both ideas don't generally react in a smug way.


You speak as if "both ideas" deserve the same consideration.
 
2012-12-27 03:50:39 PM

offmymeds: Also one of the hardest hit areas by Hurricane Sandy in NY was Red Hook. Coincidence? I think not!!


That would make this The Horror Of Red Hook, one of the worst HP Lovecraft stories ever written. This can only mean that the OLD ONES ARE ABOUT TO RISE!
 
2012-12-27 03:56:37 PM

Sgeo: A bunch of namedrops to make sure everyone interested sees this:

Autumn Moone:Walker:Nasty_McFilth: A Shambling Mound: kombat_unit:

Stopping the loading before it changes to the new page fixes it, at least for me on Chrome.


Oh that worked just fine for me too, that wasn't really the point. But thanks.

After some experimentation I've found that a better fix is to simply never visit that website again.
 
2012-12-27 04:00:42 PM
halleyscomet:

It fell at free fall speed through the path of greatest resistance. There was molten steel found, on December 13th at ground level despite heavy rain and fire suppressants being doused on it. This can be caused by something known as Thermite.

The diesel fuel and debris damage has been ruled out by NIST themselves as a cause of the building collapsing.

Please take an hour and consider all the coincidences that happened at the same time on that day. Link
 
2012-12-27 04:01:07 PM

fireclown: offmymeds: Also one of the hardest hit areas by Hurricane Sandy in NY was Red Hook. Coincidence? I think not!!

That would make this The Horror Of Red Hook, one of the worst HP Lovecraft stories ever written. This can only mean that the OLD ONES ARE ABOUT TO RISE!


Yes! YES! it's all becoming clear now...

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

MY GOD! I CAN SEE FOREVER!!!
 
2012-12-27 04:01:44 PM

Nasty_McFilth: Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)

Same thing happens to me...but I see the Batman article for about a second before the Bill of Rights article replaces it. Must be some kind of conspiracy..



At the Tin-Foil-Hat-Bill-Rights-Screed page, I right clicked on the link to the Batman article in the list of links on the right, and opened it in a new tab. Before it had the chance to bring me back to the crazy gun page, I clicked "stop" and was able to read the Crazy Batman / Sandy Conspiracy Theory Rant. Whoa Nelly. Change the site name to NaturalTinFoilHatNews.com
 
2012-12-27 04:04:59 PM
halleyscomet

You can fast forward to 1:13 to view the section on building 7 if you don't want to watch the entire movie.
Same Link
 
2012-12-27 04:06:04 PM

moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet

You can fast forward to 1:13 to view the section on building 7 if you don't want to watch the entire movie.
Same Link


You don't appear to have a lot of company in this thread. Probably best to bow out now rather than continue to dig that hole.
 
2012-12-27 04:07:15 PM

pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet

You can fast forward to 1:13 to view the section on building 7 if you don't want to watch the entire movie.
Same Link

You don't appear to have a lot of company in this thread. Probably best to bow out now rather than continue to dig that hole.


Personal insults do not dispute facts.
 
2012-12-27 04:07:30 PM

JonZoidberg: Day_Old_Dutchie: I remember when the movie The China Syndrome first came out, numerous pundits panned it for being an alarmist pile of trash - "there's nothing dangerous with nuclear power"

Then about a week or so after the release of the film there was the near-meltdown incident at Three Mile Island in Harrisburg, PA.  The pundits shut their mouths and went away.

One of the quotes of the movie actually went something like "an area the size of Pennsylvania" would be permanently uninhabitable from a meltdown accident.

Talk about a creepy feeling when I saw this in the theater.

Over the last few weeks I've been rewatching Scrubs. There was an episode from 2007 where the hospital argues the war in the middle east. JD asks the janitor what he thought, and he said "I think we should be looking for Bin Laden in Pakistan." I know that lots of people were saying that years ago, but I definitely had a double take moment.


Is that you that has been looking through my window with binoculars? I always felt I haven't been re watching those DVDs alone! *had the same double take HA moment*
 
2012-12-27 04:07:39 PM

Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)


The page seems to auto-redirect now. It's clearly the reptoids.

I read one that said Aurora was mentioned in the Skyfall promo that ran before Dark Knight Rises and this explained Sideshow Bob. Which makes perfect sense if you sleep with your head wrapped in greasy towels.

Nevermind that there are seven Sandy Hooks in the US alone. It's like Main Street or Downtown. It's common.
 
2012-12-27 04:08:05 PM
The thing about the troofers that gets me is how the government is simultaneously incompetent and covering up an elaborate conspiracy.
 
2012-12-27 04:08:06 PM
Holy shiat, whose dipshiatted moronic farking idea was it to hijack their own articles in order to publish that "omfgreadthisopinionpieceitssourgent" Bill of Rights thing? I've got adblock plus, ghostery, noscript and a few other things running on my Firefox and still couldn't read the article linked to in the headline because the farkwits at "conspiracy theory daily" redirect every story to their (technically legally correct) Bill of Rights opinion piece.

If there's an award for most annoying piece of shiat website, give it to them.
 
2012-12-27 04:08:08 PM
Awaken, Manchurian Candidate plants!
 
2012-12-27 04:09:01 PM

moefuggenbrew: pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet

You can fast forward to 1:13 to view the section on building 7 if you don't want to watch the entire movie.
Same Link

You don't appear to have a lot of company in this thread. Probably best to bow out now rather than continue to dig that hole.

Personal insults do not dispute facts.


I'm not trying to be insulting. Nor did I append a "just sayin'" at the end. Merely saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Not everything is a deep-rooted conspiracy.
 
2012-12-27 04:10:10 PM

italie: Every day Fark gets a little closer to resembling all those conspiracy forums...


Do you ever spend time on any conspiracy forums? This is nowhere near as crazy as a lot of those. One I looked at yesterday had a bunch of people trying to link a movie called the Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre, made in 2000 about a crazed killer who strikes after hurricanes, was a warning about Hurricane Sandy and Sandy Hook Elementary, as was a review a British guy posted on the day of the Aurora shootings.

To make it weirder, most everybody using the site was supportive of that conspiracy.
 
2012-12-27 04:10:41 PM

pxlboy: Personal insults do not dispute facts.

I'm not trying to be insulting. Nor did I append a "just sayin'" at the end. Merely saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Not everything is a deep-rooted conspiracy.



DO NOT FEED!
 
2012-12-27 04:12:33 PM

fireclown: pxlboy: Personal insults do not dispute facts.

I'm not trying to be insulting. Nor did I append a "just sayin'" at the end. Merely saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Not everything is a deep-rooted conspiracy.


DO NOT FEED!


Heh, I wasn't trying to. I said my piece and that was it. I don't feel the need to make it personal unless I am provoked into it. So far, it was fairly civil.

stokereport.com
 
2012-12-27 04:16:13 PM
Skimmed through article... saw this:

"P.S. I will be hosting the Alex Jones Show this coming Friday..."

That told me all I needed to know.

/that the article says nothing and its author is an oxygen thief.
 
2012-12-27 04:18:26 PM
The joke's on the aliens. I don't have a dog.

/Actually I do.
//But they can have him.
 
2012-12-27 04:20:28 PM

RevMark: Skimmed through article... saw this:

"P.S. I will be hosting the Alex Jones Show this coming Friday..."

That told me all I needed to know.

/that the article says nothing and its author is an oxygen thief.


This. There's a Paultard that runs an emissions station down the road from me who has the walls inside his workstation plastered with Infowars and troofer propaganda. He is the cheapest around, so I kept the conversation to a minimum.
 
2012-12-27 04:20:34 PM

Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)


Yeah, the Batman story loads, but before I can stop the page load, the Bill of Rights rant comes up...
 
2012-12-27 04:20:53 PM
I'd love to read the derpfest of an article, but it keeps rerouting to their article about the 2nd Amend. not being negotiable.
 
2012-12-27 04:23:27 PM

Shadowtag: Sgeo: Clicking the link takes me to a rant about the Bill of Rights, no mention of Sandy Hook or Batman (except for some story on the side about the Batman shooting being staged)

The page seems to auto-redirect now. It's clearly the reptoids.

I read one that said Aurora was mentioned in the Skyfall promo that ran before Dark Knight Rises and this explained Sideshow Bob. Which makes perfect sense if you sleep with your head wrapped in greasy towels.

Nevermind that there are seven Sandy Hooks in the US alone. It's like Main Street or Downtown. It's common.


Sandy Hook is a place in New Jersey - a National Park and wildlife refuge with saltwater marshes which is, for some species (endangered and non-endangered), the only place in the world in which they can be found. It is about a mile from where I went to high school and, if it still exists after Hurricane/Superstorm Sandy, one of my favorite places on earth. As many people use Safire's reference to refer to parts of New York City as "Gotham," Sandy Hook would logically appear on a map, since it's about a 30-minute ferry ride from Manhattan (and I've been on ferries that have done it in 20).
 
2012-12-27 04:26:32 PM

OhioUGrad: JonZoidberg: Day_Old_Dutchie: I remember when the movie The China Syndrome first came out, numerous pundits panned it for being an alarmist pile of trash - "there's nothing dangerous with nuclear power"

Then about a week or so after the release of the film there was the near-meltdown incident at Three Mile Island in Harrisburg, PA.  The pundits shut their mouths and went away.

One of the quotes of the movie actually went something like "an area the size of Pennsylvania" would be permanently uninhabitable from a meltdown accident.

Talk about a creepy feeling when I saw this in the theater.

Over the last few weeks I've been rewatching Scrubs. There was an episode from 2007 where the hospital argues the war in the middle east. JD asks the janitor what he thought, and he said "I think we should be looking for Bin Laden in Pakistan." I know that lots of people were saying that years ago, but I definitely had a double take moment.

Is that you that has been looking through my window with binoculars? I always felt I haven't been re watching those DVDs alone! *had the same double take HA moment*


Yeah, there's a mole on your peep that you should get examined by a dermatologist.
 
2012-12-27 04:28:31 PM
OK, for those having trouble loading the page because you can't hit stop quickly enough to stop the redirect:

Right-click and copy the link(I did it from the Batman headline on the Bill of Rights story)

Paste it into the address bar. DO NOT CHOOSE 'PASTE AND GO'

Position your mouse where the 'Stop' icon shows up. Mine is the same as the reload icon.

Hit enter, immediately click mouse(On 'Stop').

Worked for me...
 
2012-12-27 04:34:54 PM
But all these things are coincidences and accidents, and there is absolutely nothing to see or think about or connect.

No pieces of this connect at all.


See guys, even the author admits that this whole story is all bullshiat.

As for WTC 7, keep in mind that until that day, NO high rise had completely collapsed due to fire, that day you had 3, 2 damaged by planes crashed into them. Also, a WWII bomber crashed into the Empire State Building once, and the building was more or less fine. It's not saying anything one way or the other, it's just why people are still asking questions. I at least understand that part.
 
2012-12-27 04:42:30 PM
Fact number 1 - In the movie "The Dark Knight Rises" there is a STRIKE in a district called SANDY HOOK


Fact number 2 - In the premiere of the movie "The Dark Knight Rises", on July 20, 2012, there was a massacre in a theater in Aurora, Colorado.


Fact number 3 - In the same day, July 20, 2012, someone posted a review about a horror movie called SANDY HOOK Lingerie Party Massacre in a blog, and the review starts with the following: "So here we have Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre. Let's say that again, SANDY HOOK LINGERIE PARTY MASSACRE! What do you think of when you see that combination of words? What's in a title anyway? Does it have a cryptic meaning? Who is Sandy Hook? What on earth am I writing about?"


Fact number 4 - In the horror movie in question, SANDY HOOK Lingerie Party Massacre, from the year 2000, the plot says there is a serial killer who strikes AFTER hurricanes.


Fact number 5 - There was a very strong hurricane in November 2012, called Hurricane SANDY, that affected the whole Northeast of the USA, including both the town of Sandy Hook, in New Jersey (where the horror movie is supposed to take place) and the village of Sandy Hook, in Newtown, Connecticut.


Fact number 6 - Less than one month and a half AFTER Hurricane Sandy, a serial killer enters SANDY HOOK Elementary School, in the village of SANDY HOOK, in Newtown, Connecticut, and kills dozens of little kids in a horrible massacre
/copypasta...dont buy it but reality following fiction or fiction following reality is sometimes pretty odd, to say the least.
 
2012-12-27 04:51:14 PM

Shadowtag: The page seems to auto-redirect now.


Non-redirecting link: Link
 
2012-12-27 05:01:24 PM

davidphogan: italie: Every day Fark gets a little closer to resembling all those conspiracy forums...

Do you ever spend time on any conspiracy forums? This is nowhere near as crazy as a lot of those. One I looked at yesterday had a bunch of people trying to link a movie called the Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre, made in 2000 about a crazed killer who strikes after hurricanes, was a warning about Hurricane Sandy and Sandy Hook Elementary, as was a review a British guy posted on the day of the Aurora shootings.

To make it weirder, most everybody using the site was supportive of that conspiracy.


I did say "a little bit" closer


//I don't visit those weird places, they make me cry.
 
2012-12-27 05:07:19 PM

moefuggenbrew: T.rex: People who believe in reverse logic such as this, also probably think George Bush knocked down the Twin Towers to allow him to go to war with Iraq.
[cdn-www.i-am-bored.com image 360x320]


Please kill yourself. A building hit by a plane hit the shiat out of that building, and set it on fire.
 
2012-12-27 05:11:53 PM
cat www.g00gIe.com/compIete_worId_database.sql | grep ' Nostradamus|hook|sandy|kill|coverup|inside-job|Bush|Bastard ' >> we_are_so_fracked.bin

I got nothing.
 
2012-12-27 05:13:49 PM

mbillips: moefuggenbrew: T.rex: People who believe in reverse logic such as this, also probably think George Bush knocked down the Twin Towers to allow him to go to war with Iraq.
[cdn-www.i-am-bored.com image 360x320]

Please kill yourself. A building hit by a plane hit the shiat out of that building, and set it on fire.


I do not dispute that.
 
2012-12-27 05:14:59 PM

moefuggenbrew: T.rex: People who believe in reverse logic such as this, also probably think George Bush knocked down the Twin Towers to allow him to go to war with Iraq.
[cdn-www.i-am-bored.com image 360x320]


No, but other buildings hit that building.
 
2012-12-27 05:16:54 PM

jigger: moefuggenbrew: T.rex: People who believe in reverse logic such as this, also probably think George Bush knocked down the Twin Towers to allow him to go to war with Iraq.
[cdn-www.i-am-bored.com image 360x320]

No, but other buildings hit that building.


Again, I agree with this statement.
 
2012-12-27 05:24:40 PM

Alleyoop: Shadowtag: The page seems to auto-redirect now.

Non-redirecting link: Link


Oh, FFS. The author of The Hunger Games lives there, therefore QED.
 
2012-12-27 05:38:05 PM

JonZoidberg: OhioUGrad: JonZoidberg: Day_Old_Dutchie: I remember when the movie The China Syndrome first came out, numerous pundits panned it for being an alarmist pile of trash - "there's nothing dangerous with nuclear power"

Then about a week or so after the release of the film there was the near-meltdown incident at Three Mile Island in Harrisburg, PA.  The pundits shut their mouths and went away.

One of the quotes of the movie actually went something like "an area the size of Pennsylvania" would be permanently uninhabitable from a meltdown accident.

Talk about a creepy feeling when I saw this in the theater.

Over the last few weeks I've been rewatching Scrubs. There was an episode from 2007 where the hospital argues the war in the middle east. JD asks the janitor what he thought, and he said "I think we should be looking for Bin Laden in Pakistan." I know that lots of people were saying that years ago, but I definitely had a double take moment.

Is that you that has been looking through my window with binoculars? I always felt I haven't been re watching those DVDs alone! *had the same double take HA moment*

Yeah, there's a mole on your peep that you should get examined by a dermatologist.


I love the show. It's a shame they killed it by the network being idiots and moving it around so much and then moving networks and not just giving it a proper send off.
 
2012-12-27 05:52:43 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Phony_Soldier: LordJiro: tricycleracer: And The Big Lebowski foresaw 9/11:

[assets.flavorwire.com image 450x242]

So did The Matrix.

[i.imgur.com image 432x198]

Whoa!

[25.media.tumblr.com image 300x150]


Simpsons did it!


images.sodahead.com
 
2012-12-27 06:00:57 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Sandy....Sandy Duncan.....Duncan Hines.......Heinz 57......57 states........

This goes all the way to the top. You sheeple are just too brainwashed to see what's right in front of your faces.


57 Communists...

cinemanostalgia.net
cinemanostalgia.net
 
2012-12-27 06:05:36 PM

VespaGuy: tuxq: I love that people immediately smug up when a conspiracy is thrown their way. As if even pondering the idea for a moment would make them retarded. What it would make you is unbias... not retarded.

I'm not saying to believe this or anything else, I'm just saying. People who consider both ideas don't generally react in a smug way.

You speak as if "both ideas" deserve the same consideration.


"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it letting it move into the spare bedroom." -- Aristotle
 
2012-12-27 06:20:46 PM

moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet:

It fell at free fall speed through the path of greatest resistance. There was molten steel found, on December 13th at ground level despite heavy rain and fire suppressants being doused on it. This can be caused by something known as Thermite.


Thermite is not, in fact, some sort of magical super-explosive, no matter what the truthers think.

It's powdered aluminum, iron oxide, and a binder. Basically, aluminum and rust. I made some in my high school chemistry class *mumble* years ago (long enough ago so the teacher said "hey, don't do that" instead of having me arrested for terrorism). The critical thing about thermite is that it doesn't explode; it burns. It burns really hot (and puts out an impressive amount of white light, which is what alerted my chemistry teacher). For this reason, it's great for cutting things. It will burn happily right through anything in its path until it burns out.

But it's still not a magical super-explosive. Or any kind of explosive.

As I understand it, the truthers' basic idea is that the WTC towers and building 7 were destroyed by a controlled demolition -- the typical "building implosion" that companies like CDI do.

There's one critical thing they're leaving out: It can't be done overnight, or even over a weekend. The setup. For even a small building it takes multiple weeks at a minimum -- and this in a totally vacant building, where as many demolition workers as needed have a total right to be at any time they want, and to do their work openly. They don't just hang a few satchel charges from some pillars, either. They spend those weeks drilling carefully-placed holes to weaken support columns, sometimes even cutting away parts of those columns, and further holes to put their charges in. Exact timing is critical so the detonation is usually computer-controlled. And for even a small building, it requires enormous amounts of wire to connect each series of charges to the controller to set it off at the right time. Again, you can't do this overnight. You can't do this over a long weekend. You can't do this over a couple of weeks. And if you're doing it on the sly -- somehow rigging the WTC to collapse with nobody knowing what you're doing -- it would take probably a year or more. What are the odds that nobody in all that time would notice what was going on? This is not a neat, tidy process.

Then there's the sheer number of people who would have to be involved. This is not something that Joe Boomo can do. There's a reason people who want their buildings demolished call in professionals (and if you're trying to do it in secret, you certainly don't want some amateur botching the job and leaving the evidence around in plain view, where every single person, not just a few "elite" people on the Intarwebz, would see it). So not only would the staff of at least one, probably multiple, major demolitions companies be involved, but they'd be working on it for weeks or months. They would of course all have to be keeping the secret. So would their families, who would otherwise question why Daddy and his whole company went to do some secret work for two months and wouldn't say what it was. So would their other clients -- if nobody could book time with a demolitions company for the months of July or August of 2001, they'd notice. So would the entire maintenance staff of the buildings in question -- too easy for them to notice something amiss otherwise. We're talking about a conspiracy here involving literally thousands of people ... a conspiracy to cover up a government committing mass murder of its own citizens ... and supposedly not a single one of these thousands of people blew the whistle? "They threatened their families" wouldn't work on all of them. There are plenty of people without families -- or whose families would agree that exposing this horrible crime and enormous cover-up would be worth the risk -- to blow that whistle. Think about it: thousands of people who were, and still are, keeping the secret of a staggering crime for over a decade now.

And then we get to the matter of the airplanes. Four planes and all their passengers, to be exact. If they didn't knock down the buildings, where did they go? Were they all somehow secretly "disappeared", even the ones on Flight 93 who were talking to their families on cell phones?

If the government wanted to do this ... wouldn't it have been easier and simpler (Occam's Razor here) just to suborn a suitable number of Al-Quaida members or just wanna-be's and point them in the right direction? Why go through all this elaborate hoax involving months of time and thousands of people when you could do it with just 19 people and kill them in the process?

One final note about building strength: In my old hometown, many years ago, a drugstore burned. Think your typical CVS (it was actually a local place called McLanahan's) with a floor or two of small apartments above it. Like most of the people in town, I wandered by to look at the resulting ruins a few days later. The thing I noticed most particularly was that a heavy steel I-beam which crossed the store from side to side (probably supporting the upper floors) had sagged like a wet noodle. No thermite. No explosives. No jet fuel. Just the stuff you'd find in your typical CVS, with a bit of an emphasis on stuffed animals in university colors. And the center of that beam, over a distance of perhaps forty feet, had sagged a couple of yards. Typical structure fire, remember, and the fire company was on the scene very quickly. Now scale that up to a multi-story building whose entire structure depends on the rigidity of steel beams ... the same kind of steel beams that lost their rigidity so readily in the McLanahan's fire.
 
2012-12-27 06:25:10 PM

tuxq: I love that people immediately smug up when a conspiracy is thrown their way. As if even pondering the idea for a moment would make them retarded. What it would make you is unbias... not retarded.

I'm not saying to believe this or anything else, I'm just saying. People who consider both ideas don't generally react in a smug way.


Because not every idea is worth considering, you conspiracy minded freakshows.
 
2012-12-27 06:42:03 PM

Worldwalker: moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet:

It fell at free fall speed through the path of greatest resistance. There was molten steel found, on December 13th at ground level despite heavy rain and fire suppressants being doused on it. This can be caused by something known as Thermite.

Thermite is not, in fact, some sort of magical super-explosive, no matter what the truthers think.

It's powdered aluminum, iron oxide, and a binder. Basically, aluminum and rust. I made some in my high school chemistry class *mumble* years ago (long enough ago so the teacher said "hey, don't do that" instead of having me arrested for terrorism). The critical thing about thermite is that it doesn't explode; it burns. It burns really hot (and puts out an impressive amount of white light, which is what alerted my chemistry teacher). For this reason, it's great for cutting things. It will burn happily right through anything in its path until it burns out.

But it's still not a magical super-explosive. Or any kind of explosive.

As I understand it, the truthers' basic idea is that the WTC towers and building 7 were destroyed by a controlled demolition -- the typical "building implosion" that companies like CDI do.

There's one critical thing they're leaving out: It can't be done overnight, or even over a weekend. The setup. For even a small building it takes multiple weeks at a minimum -- and this in a totally vacant building, where as many demolition workers as needed have a total right to be at any time they want, and to do their work openly. They don't just hang a few satchel charges from some pillars, either. They spend those weeks drilling carefully-placed holes to weaken support columns, sometimes even cutting away parts of those columns, and further holes to put their charges in. Exact timing is critical so the detonation is usually computer-controlled. And for even a small building, it requires enormous amounts of wire to connect each series of charges to the controller to set it off at the right time. Again, you can't do this overnight. You can't do this over a long weekend. You can't do this over a couple of weeks. And if you're doing it on the sly -- somehow rigging the WTC to collapse with nobody knowing what you're doing -- it would take probably a year or more. What are the odds that nobody in all that time would notice what was going on? This is not a neat, tidy process.

Then there's the sheer number of people who would have to be involved. This is not something that Joe Boomo can do. There's a reason people who want their buildings demolished call in professionals (and if you're trying to do it in secret, you certainly don't want some amateur botching the job and leaving the evidence around in plain view, where every single person, not just a few "elite" people on the Intarwebz, would see it). So not only would the staff of at least one, probably multiple, major demolitions companies be involved, but they'd be working on it for weeks or months. They would of course all have to be keeping the secret. So would their families, who would otherwise question why Daddy and his whole company went to do some secret work for two months and wouldn't say what it was. So would their other clients -- if nobody could book time with a demolitions company for the months of July or August of 2001, they'd notice. So would the entire maintenance staff of the buildings in question -- too easy for them to notice something amiss otherwise. We're talking about a conspiracy here involving literally thousands of people ... a conspiracy to cover up a government committing mass murder of its own citizens ... and supposedly not a single one of these thousands of people blew the whistle? "They threatened their families" wouldn't work on all of them. There are plenty of people without families -- or whose families would agree that exposing this horrible crime and enormous cover-up would be worth the risk -- to blow that whistle. Think about it: thousands of people who were, and still are, keeping the secret of a staggering crime for over a decade now.

And then we get to the matter of the airplanes. Four planes and all their passengers, to be exact. If they didn't knock down the buildings, where did they go? Were they all somehow secretly "disappeared", even the ones on Flight 93 who were talking to their families on cell phones?

If the government wanted to do this ... wouldn't it have been easier and simpler (Occam's Razor here) just to suborn a suitable number of Al-Quaida members or just wanna-be's and point them in the right direction? Why go through all this elaborate hoax involving months of time and thousands of people when you could do it with just 19 people and kill them in the process?

One final note about building strength: In my old hometown, many years ago, a drugstore burned. Think your typical CVS (it was actually a local place called McLanahan's) with a floor or two of small apartments above it. Like most of the people in town, I wandered by to look at the resulting ruins a few days later. The thing I noticed most particularly was that a heavy steel I-beam which crossed the store from side to side (probably supporting the upper floors) had sagged like a wet noodle. No thermite. No explosives. No jet fuel. Just the stuff you'd find in your typical CVS, with a bit of an emphasis on stuffed animals in university colors. And the center of that beam, over a distance of perhaps forty feet, had sagged a couple of yards. Typical structure fire, remember, and the fire company was on the scene very quickly. Now scale that up to a multi-story building whose entire structure depends on the rigidity of steel beams ... the same kind of steel beams that lost their rigidity so readily in the McLanahan's fire.


The issue is, you are attempting to have a rational conversation with a conspiracy theorist. Occam's Razor doesn't help at all. If you point out how difficult something is, or how long it would take to accomplish, Or how absurd numbers of people would need to be involved to make this conspiracy happen, all you have done is show how far-reaching, powerful and insidious the conspiracy is.
 
2012-12-27 07:12:00 PM
Worldwalker, BSABSVR:.

The towers had extensive maintenance done to the elevator shafts prior to 9/11. This process was long. The elevator shafts have direct access to the support beams. If you look into the company contracted for this job and the security company for the trade centers you find some interesting people, such a Bush's brother. The records of the type and duration of 'work' that was actually performed on the elevator shafts has conveniently been destroyed in the collapse and the company conveniently has no comment.

Furthermore, saying it would have been easier or more convenient to do something one way does not disprove it was done another way.

There was a 'stream of molten steel' flowing at ground level, one firefighter described it as "like lava flowing around a volcano". Countless witnesses of multiple explosions 'boom boom boom boom boom one floor at a time'

Why are people so resistant to this hard scientific information?

To begin to accept the possibility that the government is involved is like opening Pandora's box, it challenges your fundamental view of the events and thus world view. And if you look at your view of the world as your home, you will defend your home. This is known as cognitive dissidence.

Don't believe me, ask the people that do this for a living: Experts speak out
 
2012-12-27 07:16:08 PM
dissonance *
 
2012-12-27 07:26:30 PM

moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet:

...Please take an hour and consider all the coincidences that happened at the same time on that day. Link


This is fark. Nobody here has that long an attention span, myself included.
 
2012-12-27 07:39:00 PM
Senator LEAHY IS IN THE DARK KNIGHT RISES
CHECK THE CREDITS
/NOT HIS FIRST BATMAN MOVIE APPEARANCE
 
2012-12-27 07:42:42 PM
I know that truthers still exist, but do they really spout the exact same nonsense from 10 years ago? Molten steel? Building 7? Seriously?

Moefuggenbrew is either new to trutherism or dishonest.
 
2012-12-27 07:44:45 PM

pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet

You can fast forward to 1:13 to view the section on building 7 if you don't want to watch the entire movie.
Same Link

You don't appear to have a lot of company in this thread. Probably best to bow out now rather than continue to dig that hole.

Personal insults do not dispute facts.

I'm not trying to be insulting. Nor did I append a "just sayin'" at the end. Merely saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Not everything is a deep-rooted conspiracy.


I am enjoying this conversation more than the rest of this thread. Quite gentlemanly of both of you so far.
Don't quit on me now.
 
2012-12-27 07:54:11 PM

stryed: /copypasta...dont buy it but reality following fiction or fiction following reality is sometimes pretty odd, to say the least.


That was one of the weird posts I read yesterday. It was interesting to read that crap, at least.
 
2012-12-27 08:21:35 PM

EVERYBODY PANIC: pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet

You can fast forward to 1:13 to view the section on building 7 if you don't want to watch the entire movie.
Same Link

You don't appear to have a lot of company in this thread. Probably best to bow out now rather than continue to dig that hole.

Personal insults do not dispute facts.

I'm not trying to be insulting. Nor did I append a "just sayin'" at the end. Merely saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Not everything is a deep-rooted conspiracy.

I am enjoying this conversation more than the rest of this thread. Quite gentlemanly of both of you so far.
Don't quit on me now.


Wait, what?  I need to start flinging poo and insults!

/not really
 
2012-12-27 08:24:12 PM

EVERYBODY PANIC: pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet

You can fast forward to 1:13 to view the section on building 7 if you don't want to watch the entire movie.
Same Link

You don't appear to have a lot of company in this thread. Probably best to bow out now rather than continue to dig that hole.

Personal insults do not dispute facts.

I'm not trying to be insulting. Nor did I append a "just sayin'" at the end. Merely saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Not everything is a deep-rooted conspiracy.

I am enjoying this conversation more than the rest of this thread. Quite gentlemanly of both of you so far.
Don't quit on me now.


Really, though, this is how I deal with argumentative people IRL, by not raising my voice or resorting to name calling. Being calm in the face of someone who insists on starting a fight is the surest way to derail them.

I'm not saying he was being combative, but that there was no need to escalate things. Thank you for the compliment.
 
2012-12-27 08:30:47 PM

moefuggenbrew: Worldwalker, BSABSVR:.

The towers had extensive maintenance done to the elevator shafts prior to 9/11. This process was long. The elevator shafts have direct access to the support beams. If you look into the company contracted for this job and the security company for the trade centers you find some interesting people, such a Bush's brother. The records of the type and duration of 'work' that was actually performed on the elevator shafts has conveniently been destroyed in the collapse and the company conveniently has no comment.

Furthermore, saying it would have been easier or more convenient to do something one way does not disprove it was done another way.

There was a 'stream of molten steel' flowing at ground level, one firefighter described it as "like lava flowing around a volcano". Countless witnesses of multiple explosions 'boom boom boom boom boom one floor at a time'

Why are people so resistant to this hard scientific information?

To begin to accept the possibility that the government is involved is like opening Pandora's box, it challenges your fundamental view of the events and thus world view. And if you look at your view of the world as your home, you will defend your home. This is known as cognitive dissidence.

Don't believe me, ask the people that do this for a living: Experts speak out


You know what, I DON'T MOTHERFARKING CARE!!
Why don't you take your deluded mind back into the grimy basement you crawled out of and mastrubate to fetid donkey porn or what ever the hell you jack off to. You know what, I got it. I know why your talking about all this conspiracy derp anyway. It's because your sense of self worth is so pathetically small you need to know something that regular "Sheeple" don't so you feel superior. For the love of god, put down the Alex Jones pod cast and go see a doctor.
 
2012-12-27 08:33:17 PM

Richard C Stanford: moefuggenbrew: Worldwalker, BSABSVR:.

The towers had extensive maintenance done to the elevator shafts prior to 9/11. This process was long. The elevator shafts have direct access to the support beams. If you look into the company contracted for this job and the security company for the trade centers you find some interesting people, such a Bush's brother. The records of the type and duration of 'work' that was actually performed on the elevator shafts has conveniently been destroyed in the collapse and the company conveniently has no comment.

Furthermore, saying it would have been easier or more convenient to do something one way does not disprove it was done another way.

There was a 'stream of molten steel' flowing at ground level, one firefighter described it as "like lava flowing around a volcano". Countless witnesses of multiple explosions 'boom boom boom boom boom one floor at a time'

Why are people so resistant to this hard scientific information?

To begin to accept the possibility that the government is involved is like opening Pandora's box, it challenges your fundamental view of the events and thus world view. And if you look at your view of the world as your home, you will defend your home. This is known as cognitive dissidence.

Don't believe me, ask the people that do this for a living: Experts speak out

You know what, I DON'T MOTHERFARKING CARE!!
Why don't you take your deluded mind back into the grimy basement you crawled out of and mastrubate to fetid donkey porn or what ever the hell you jack off to. You know what, I got it. I know why your talking about all this conspiracy derp anyway. It's because your sense of self worth is so pathetically small you need to know something that regular "Sheeple" don't so you feel superior. For the love of god, put down the Alex Jones pod cast and go see a doctor.


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Settle down, Beavis.
 
2012-12-27 08:33:18 PM
Natural News: All the news that's plain old bullshiat.
 
2012-12-27 08:42:38 PM

pxlboy: EVERYBODY PANIC: pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: pxlboy: moefuggenbrew: halleyscomet

You can fast forward to 1:13 to view the section on building 7 if you don't want to watch the entire movie.
Same Link

You don't appear to have a lot of company in this thread. Probably best to bow out now rather than continue to dig that hole.

Personal insults do not dispute facts.

I'm not trying to be insulting. Nor did I append a "just sayin'" at the end. Merely saying that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

Not everything is a deep-rooted conspiracy.

I am enjoying this conversation more than the rest of this thread. Quite gentlemanly of both of you so far.
Don't quit on me now.

Really, though, this is how I deal with argumentative people IRL, by not raising my voice or resorting to name calling. Being calm in the face of someone who insists on starting a fight is the surest way to derail them.

I'm not saying he was being combative, but that there was no need to escalate things. Thank you for the compliment.


I put you on my favorites list a while back, as you do have a certain way with words and an interesting demeanor. So many knee-jerkers on fark seem like petulant teenagers, so a sane and sober person here is refreshing. Aside from the great puns and the funnier comments, it is guys like you that keep me here.
At the same time, I have no argument with tonight's 911 conspirator either. I do not agree with him, but neither do I put any faith in the things we are told by the press and/or govt. I'm just a lone wolf, I guess.
 
2012-12-27 08:48:53 PM

pxlboy: Richard C Stanford: moefuggenbrew: Worldwalker, BSABSVR:.

The towers had extensive maintenance done to the elevator shafts prior to 9/11. This process was long. The elevator shafts have direct access to the support beams. If you look into the company contracted for this job and the security company for the trade centers you find some interesting people, such a Bush's brother. The records of the type and duration of 'work' that was actually performed on the elevator shafts has conveniently been destroyed in the collapse and the company conveniently has no comment.

Furthermore, saying it would have been easier or more convenient to do something one way does not disprove it was done another way.

There was a 'stream of molten steel' flowing at ground level, one firefighter described it as "like lava flowing around a volcano". Countless witnesses of multiple explosions 'boom boom boom boom boom one floor at a time'

Why are people so resistant to this hard scientific information?

To begin to accept the possibility that the government is involved is like opening Pandora's box, it challenges your fundamental view of the events and thus world view. And if you look at your view of the world as your home, you will defend your home. This is known as cognitive dissidence.

Don't believe me, ask the people that do this for a living: Experts speak out

You know what, I DON'T MOTHERFARKING CARE!!
Why don't you take your deluded mind back into the grimy basement you crawled out of and mastrubate to fetid donkey porn or what ever the hell you jack off to. You know what, I got it. I know why your talking about all this conspiracy derp anyway. It's because your sense of self worth is so pathetically small you need to know something that regular "Sheeple" don't so you feel superior. For the love of god, put down the Alex Jones pod cast and go see a doctor.


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Settle down, Beavis.


Hey pxlboy. This is what I was talking about. I feel like I'm back in Jr. High again. Does this guy actually think that his comment will possibly improve a conversation, inform and enlighten anybody, or matter in the least? It's just a waste of precious internet tubes space.
 
2012-12-27 09:49:18 PM
Most of what we know about 9/11 was told to the commission by Bush and Cheney. It would be foolish not to question the facts. Those two have never uttered a word that wasn't a self serving lie.

Not saying it was a conspiracy or controlled demolition. Just likely that all the little details are told in a way to make them forever blameless for a huge intelligence failure. Luckily they called it terrorism right away, unlike 0bama. Benghazi!!!!!
 
2012-12-27 09:57:11 PM

fireclown: LookForTheArrow: Mister Peejay: Is there anything in the article about how the whole movie was nothing more than a right-wing propaganda piece detailing how the proles wouldn't know what to do with money if they had it, and the government is useless, so we should just give everything to the .1% since they are the only ones capable of handling it?

^^^ THIS


In that piece, no. But a lot of people have. Also of note is the theme in the last two movies that a compelling enemy of the state legitimizes the issuing of extraordinary powers to a sitting head of state. Damned if Nolan didn't make the only right wing movie series in ages right under everyones noses.


"I've had as many conversations with people who have seen the film the other way round. We throw a lot of things against the wall to see if it sticks. We put a lot of interesting questions in the air, but that's simply a backdrop for the story. What we're really trying to do is show the cracks of society, show the conflicts that somebody would try to wedge open. We're going to get wildly different interpretations of what the film is supporting and not supporting, but it's not doing any of those things. It's just telling a story. If you're saying, 'Have you made a film that's supposed to be criticizing the Occupy Wall Street movement?' - well, obviously, that's not true."  - Christopher Nolan

With respect, you three should be careful about putting words in someone's mouth.
 
2012-12-28 01:49:35 AM
Einhorn is Finkle.


Finkle is Einhorn.
 
2012-12-28 02:31:15 AM

Wayne 985: If you're saying, 'Have you made a film that's supposed to be criticizing the Occupy Wall Street movement?' - well, obviously, that's not true."  - Christopher Nolan

With respect, you three should be careful about putting words in someone's mouth.


Indeed. I never even considered Bane as a critique of OWS, what with all the allusions to Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
 
2012-12-28 03:52:07 AM

moefuggenbrew: Worldwalker, BSABSVR:.
Countless witnesses of multiple explosions 'boom boom boom boom boom one floor at a time'


I had an average size fire in my house this year, the ceiling separated and collapsed due to the heat. The sound it made was for all intents and purpose an explosion, it even rattled the windows next door.
 
2012-12-28 08:06:11 AM
Links seem to load fine for me if you take the spaces out of the URL that FARK puts in...
 
2012-12-28 12:48:44 PM
Couldn't sit through it

left after 45 min

total rubbish, dishonored the first movie
 
2012-12-28 04:18:21 PM

Wayne 985: Yeah, I found out about this through Alex Jones and his "Sandy Hook is a hoax" nonsense on YouTube.


I hate that guy so much, very single national tragedy and he makes it into a "Government did it!" conspiracy theory.
 
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