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(Sportige)   Numbers don't mean everything, but they do say a lot about LeBron James, who is having a kind of month that has happened only three other times in NBA history   (sportige.com) divider line 30
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2012-12-27 10:44:28 AM
Something something Jordan.
Something something NHL.
Something something WWE.
Something something college ball.
Something something why I dont watch anymore.

/fark Wade
 
2012-12-27 02:26:31 PM
LeBron is almost incomprehensibly good at basketball. Not that that's news to anyone, but somehow I feel like it wasn't stressed enough ever since he went to the Heat since the focus was on other things.
 
2012-12-27 02:33:36 PM

FreakinB: LeBron is almost incomprehensibly good at basketball. Not that that's news to anyone, but somehow I feel like it wasn't stressed enough ever since he went to the Heat since the focus was on other things.


There are only two other guys I can think of that utterly dominated both ends of the floor: Jordan and Wilt.  I'm just looking forward to the nuthuggers who hold LeBron's failed championship runs against him, failing to realize that the league is deeper in talent than it has ever been.
 
2012-12-27 02:48:48 PM

Mike_LowELL: FreakinB: LeBron is almost incomprehensibly good at basketball. Not that that's news to anyone, but somehow I feel like it wasn't stressed enough ever since he went to the Heat since the focus was on other things.

There are only two other guys I can think of that utterly dominated both ends of the floor: Jordan and Wilt.  I'm just looking forward to the nuthuggers who hold LeBron's failed championship runs against him, failing to realize that the league is deeper in talent than it has ever been.


He *is* a bit of a mental midget, doesn't have the mentality of MJ/Kobe. Maybe the most physically gifted athlete ever, in any sport. But he lacks something between the ears.

/all cliche, I know
 
2012-12-27 02:56:37 PM

the biggest redneck here: Mike_LowELL: FreakinB: LeBron is almost incomprehensibly good at basketball. Not that that's news to anyone, but somehow I feel like it wasn't stressed enough ever since he went to the Heat since the focus was on other things.

There are only two other guys I can think of that utterly dominated both ends of the floor: Jordan and Wilt.  I'm just looking forward to the nuthuggers who hold LeBron's failed championship runs against him, failing to realize that the league is deeper in talent than it has ever been.

He *is* a bit of a mental midget, doesn't have the mentality of MJ/Kobe. Maybe the most physically gifted athlete ever, in any sport. But he lacks something between the ears.

/all cliche, I know


Game four against the pacers and game 6 against the celtics (and the entire finals and 2004 pistons) would seem to disagree with you.

In each of those situations, he said "f*ck this, we aren't losing".

Yes, he doesn't have the "I'm the best, so I'm going to be an asshole jerk killer" shooting thing...but he can flip a switch and dominate a game just as easy
 
2012-12-27 02:59:22 PM

the biggest redneck here: Mike_LowELL: FreakinB: LeBron is almost incomprehensibly good at basketball. Not that that's news to anyone, but somehow I feel like it wasn't stressed enough ever since he went to the Heat since the focus was on other things.

There are only two other guys I can think of that utterly dominated both ends of the floor: Jordan and Wilt.  I'm just looking forward to the nuthuggers who hold LeBron's failed championship runs against him, failing to realize that the league is deeper in talent than it has ever been.

He *is* a bit of a mental midget, doesn't have the mentality of MJ/Kobe. Maybe the most physically gifted athlete ever, in any sport. But he lacks something between the ears.

/all cliche, I know


He looked pretty good in the playoffs last season.
 
2012-12-27 03:03:42 PM
Those other two guys had a much lousier "Decision" than LeBron. Amateurs.
 
2012-12-27 03:19:06 PM

bulldg4life: Yes, he doesn't have the "I'm the best, so I'm going to be an asshole jerk killer" shooting thing...but he can flip a switch and dominate a game just as easy


He is, by every account I've ever seen, a much, much better teammate than Jordan or Kobe. People who biatch about the modern NBA not being a team game and biatch about LeBron confuse me. He's the biggest superstar in any sport, and he's a willing passer who makes his teammates better.
 
2012-12-27 03:20:57 PM
Avery Johnson just got axed. Mike Brown should go there so Deron Williams can get him fired too.
 
2012-12-27 03:22:11 PM
The ironic thing is, if King James goes back to Cleveland now, he probably doesn't even crack the starting 5. That team is much improved without him... I mean, i'd take him back... just as long as he's cool as a utility 6th man.
 
2012-12-27 03:25:43 PM

T.rex: The ironic thing is, if King James goes back to Cleveland now, he probably doesn't even crack the starting 5. That team is much improved without him... I mean, i'd take him back... just as long as he's cool as a utility 6th man.


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2012-12-27 03:26:31 PM

the biggest redneck here: He *is* a bit of a mental midget, doesn't have the mentality of MJ/Kobe. Maybe the most physically gifted athlete ever, in any sport. But he lacks something between the ears.


He figured it out.  I never read anything suggesting he was a stupid kid, just that X number of his buddies got into his head.  I think all the other Finals contenders (Clippers, Thunder, Grizzlies, Spurs, Knicks) are utterly terrified that LeBron has been holding back the fifth gear all season (and still has the best numbers of any player and would probably be the MVP in a world where writers don't get bored with the same choice year after year).  Still taking the Clippers to win the Finals, so long as Griffin or Paul or Crawford don't blow out a knee or two.
 
2012-12-27 03:27:28 PM

T.rex: The ironic thing is, if King James goes back to Cleveland now, he probably doesn't even crack the starting 5. That team is much improved without him... I mean, i'd take him back... just as long as he's cool as a utility 6th man.


And no NBA player could crack the starting lineup for a Top 25 college team, since college players play with more hustle, heart, determination, and have better fundamentals.  What is your point?
 
2012-12-27 03:31:05 PM
This doesn't make any sense... all I've heard about LBJ and the Heat from my Celtics-fanatics friends on Facebook is how much they suck. There wasn't much chatter from those friends late in the playoffs last year; I guess the Celts must have cruised easily so it wasn't that interesting.

Also there was that television special a few years ago that still makes people angry. That makes him an inferior basketball player, and human being for that matter. I mean, I'm guessing based on the fact that people still bring it up when proving that he's not in the same league as world-class-asshole Michael Jordan or suprise-sex-with-hotel-staff-having Kobe Bryant.
 
2012-12-27 03:31:14 PM
Fark Lebron and his"kick players in the nuts" sidekick, Dwayne Wade.
 
2012-12-27 03:32:58 PM

Gunny Highway: Something something Jordan.
Something something NHL.
Something something WWE.
Something something college ball.
Something something why I dont watch anymore.

/fark Wade


You forgot Something something Sonics.
 
2012-12-27 03:58:31 PM

bulldg4life: the biggest redneck here: Mike_LowELL: FreakinB: LeBron is almost incomprehensibly good at basketball. Not that that's news to anyone, but somehow I feel like it wasn't stressed enough ever since he went to the Heat since the focus was on other things.

There are only two other guys I can think of that utterly dominated both ends of the floor: Jordan and Wilt.  I'm just looking forward to the nuthuggers who hold LeBron's failed championship runs against him, failing to realize that the league is deeper in talent than it has ever been.

He *is* a bit of a mental midget, doesn't have the mentality of MJ/Kobe. Maybe the most physically gifted athlete ever, in any sport. But he lacks something between the ears.

/all cliche, I know

Game four against the pacers and game 6 against the celtics (and the entire finals and 2004 pistons) would seem to disagree with you.

In each of those situations, he said "f*ck this, we aren't losing".

Yes, he doesn't have the "I'm the best, so I'm going to be an asshole jerk killer" shooting thing...but he can flip a switch and dominate a game just as easy


That you/his defenders have to cherry-pick games/moments where he stepped up says all that needs to be.
 
2012-12-27 03:59:08 PM
He's already way better than Kobe.

Poor Kobe. Came in trying to be the greatest of all time... will leave not being the greatest of his generation.
 
2012-12-27 04:01:40 PM
 
2012-12-27 04:01:58 PM
Wasn't there a piece just 2 days ago saying how Lebron was getting more Jordan Rules from the refs than even Jordan got?
 
2012-12-27 04:03:57 PM

the biggest redneck here: That you/his defenders have to cherry-pick games/moments where he stepped up says all that needs to be.


Because his detractors don't cherry pick games where he didn't show up in the fourth quarter and/or completely ignore last year's playoffs to continue to detract from his success?

Hell, people knock him for quitting on his team when the Cavs lost to the Celtics and he had a damn triple-double in the last game.

You can't actually attack his performance in big games without singling out the last season against the Celtics, the finals against the Spurs/Mavs.

He actually has had good and bad playoff series all through his career.
 
2012-12-27 04:05:35 PM
To add, what in the blue bloody f*ck kind of argument is "you can't actually prove he shows up in big games unless you point out the games where he stepped up"
 
2012-12-27 04:07:07 PM
And he does all this while having almost literally no fouls called on him. I'm sure that is because he never actually fouls and not because he is permitted to get away with just about anything on the basketball court.

I hate the "Who Did It/Who was it done to" criteria that NBA officials use when deciding what is and what is not a foul.
 
2012-12-27 04:12:53 PM

bulldg4life: To add, what in the blue bloody f*ck kind of argument is "you can't actually prove he shows up in big games unless you point out the games where he stepped up"


What I'm saying is that you have to single out performances. MJ and Kobe brought it mentally 98% of the time. With LBJ... bit of a mystery which guy is going to show up any night or series. Going into damn-near any game, you *knew* MJ/Kobe was going to give the other team hell. If their team is/was down by 20 with 3 minutes to play, they're going apeshiat trying to steal the ball, and if they're up by 20 with 3 minutes left, they're going to do everything they possibly can to embarrass the other team 'til the end. For better or worse, LBJ simply doesn't have that mentality. It's just not in him.
 
2012-12-27 04:15:20 PM

the biggest redneck here: What I'm saying is that you have to single out performances. MJ and Kobe brought it mentally 98% of the time. With LBJ... bit of a mystery which guy is going to show up any night or series. Going into damn-near any game, you *knew* MJ/Kobe was going to give the other team hell. If their team is/was down by 20 with 3 minutes to play, they're going apeshiat trying to steal the ball, and if they're up by 20 with 3 minutes left, they're going to do everything they possibly can to embarrass the other team 'til the end. For better or worse, LBJ simply doesn't have that mentality. It's just not in him.


LeBron is of the best playoff performers of all time. Kobe isn't. (MJ is too)
 
2012-12-27 04:19:34 PM

MugzyBrown: the biggest redneck here: What I'm saying is that you have to single out performances. MJ and Kobe brought it mentally 98% of the time. With LBJ... bit of a mystery which guy is going to show up any night or series. Going into damn-near any game, you *knew* MJ/Kobe was going to give the other team hell. If their team is/was down by 20 with 3 minutes to play, they're going apeshiat trying to steal the ball, and if they're up by 20 with 3 minutes left, they're going to do everything they possibly can to embarrass the other team 'til the end. For better or worse, LBJ simply doesn't have that mentality. It's just not in him.

LeBron is of the best playoff performers of all time. Kobe isn't. (MJ is too)


I think the whole lumping of MJ/Kobe as if they are somehow on the same tier is just silly.
 
2012-12-27 04:27:53 PM

the biggest redneck here: What I'm saying is that you have to single out performances. MJ and Kobe brought it mentally 98% of the time. With LBJ... bit of a mystery which guy is going to show up any night or series. Going into damn-near any game, you *knew* MJ/Kobe was going to give the other team hell. If their team is/was down by 20 with 3 minutes to play, they're going apeshiat trying to steal the ball, and if they're up by 20 with 3 minutes left, they're going to do everything they possibly can to embarrass the other team 'til the end. For better or worse, LBJ simply doesn't have that mentality. It's just not in him.


You do realize that LeBron's performance in the playoffs is just as good as the other two guys, right? Not through some nebulous whatever you want it to be "mental midget" calculation. Using numbers and shiat, he performs pretty damn well in the playoffs.

And, when you compare Kobe to LeBron on the idea of game winning shots...It is 7 shots made for Kobe and 5 shots made for LeBron....with LeBron having a fraction of the opportunities and a fraction of the misses.

Kobe vs LeBron
Here
Here

LeBron vs MJ
Here
This link shows that LeBron does not dominate games as much as MJ did and, when MJ starts to dominate, he continues at his high level. However, it also shows that LeBron has reasonably comparable stats and does improve in the playoffs. Obviously, he doesn't outshine MJ because it is f*cking Michael Jordan


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But still, creating the idea of him shrinking in the playoffs seems to make sense when he doesn't have a championship to use in the argument, but it isn't shown in the actual numbers unless (as you admonished me for) you pick out specific games where he disappeared.

However, to continue the argument after the 2012 season, I just don't know what else to say.
 
2012-12-27 04:40:41 PM

srhp29: MugzyBrown: the biggest redneck here: What I'm saying is that you have to single out performances. MJ and Kobe brought it mentally 98% of the time. With LBJ... bit of a mystery which guy is going to show up any night or series. Going into damn-near any game, you *knew* MJ/Kobe was going to give the other team hell. If their team is/was down by 20 with 3 minutes to play, they're going apeshiat trying to steal the ball, and if they're up by 20 with 3 minutes left, they're going to do everything they possibly can to embarrass the other team 'til the end. For better or worse, LBJ simply doesn't have that mentality. It's just not in him.

LeBron is of the best playoff performers of all time. Kobe isn't. (MJ is too)

I think the whole lumping of MJ/Kobe as if they are somehow on the same tier is just silly.


Same mentality, half a tier removed.
 
2012-12-27 07:26:46 PM
Oh did LeBron get his seventh straight scoring title? No? Then I don't care.
 
2012-12-27 08:37:57 PM

1derful: Oh did LeBron get his seventh straight scoring title? No? Then I don't care.


Oh, scoring volume is the only measurement of greatness.

He's the most efficient player in the NBA. Should he continue at this current pace, this will be his 6th consecutive season leading the league in PER.
 
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