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2012-12-27 11:10:16 AM
5 votes:

LlamaGirl: But Star Trek was good.


THIS!  If anybody ruined Star Trek it was Rick Berman and whoever the other guy was who took over Trek after Roddenberry died.
2012-12-27 10:48:59 AM
3 votes:
But Star Trek was good.

Besides, Star Wars is terrible. Just terrible.
2012-12-27 03:44:36 PM
2 votes:

theflatline: There is no one in the Star Trek Universe as cool as Han Solo.


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"Han who?"

upload.wikimedia.org

"Beats me."
2012-12-27 12:55:42 PM
2 votes:

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: No, it wasn't. Incoherent babbling about shiat no one cares about...


Are you done now? It's called an opinion, man.

You should see a doctor for the PTSD that film inflicted upon your fragile little soul.
2012-12-27 04:06:20 PM
1 votes:

theflatline:
There is no one in the Star Trek Universe as cool as Han Solo.


There is no one in the Star Wars Universe as hot as Seven of Nine.

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2012-12-27 03:22:18 PM
1 votes:

spidermann: Plot holes = read the comic miniseries before watching the movie. It is all explained.


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Why do I need to read a comic to understand a movie's plot?

RevRaven: Yeah, JJ turned Star Trek into Star Wars.


... Complete with the gratuitous destruction of a peaceful planet. My head just exploded.

Techhell: Seriously, Star Trek Lensflare was nothing but a naked cash grab. Capitalize on characters who have crossed over into mainstream culture ("Beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here."), put together a story with just enough nods to the source material to make it look like they know it, pick beautiful people and make it very action-oriented. Then deliberately belittle the original series to have a built in defense against arguments that "This isn't Star Trek." before the movie even comes out, and voila.


I don't think they deliberately set out to do it. I think Abrams' is just friggin' lazy.

"Nevermind that Jim Kirk had to have been naturally driven to become Starfleet's youngest captain and Spock already had issues being half-human we need instant wangst and motivation. Let's whack their parents."

Jim from Saint Paul: This is the only Star Trek Movie that is like the original series. While most would consider it ok, to good, even more consider it boring and some not worth a rewatch.


Balance Of Terror, The Gaileo Seven, City On The Edge Of Forever, and The Doomsday Machine beg to differ, and those are just the episodes I can rattle off-hand that had more action and/or drama than The Motionless Picture.
2012-12-27 03:10:21 PM
1 votes:
Yes well we always have Joss Whedon.
2012-12-27 03:10:00 PM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: These new star wars movies are going to be awesomely bad. I can't wait for Johnny Depp to be the new Han.


You must be joking.

I was watching Episode III in the theater my wife. We could see the build-up...we could see Anakin's path was going to converge ...unpleasantly... with the jedilings. As one, we both stood up and walked out. Enough was enough.

I LOVED the original trilogy. I've still got my boxes of Star Wars toys from the 70's. All my life, I was dying to see that fight between Obi-Wan and Anakin that created Vader... but Lucas, in three long, slow, merciless acts killed my joy for his creation. I just didn't care to see how his story ended. I can't see how anyone could do WORSE.

Yeah, yeah, CSB.
2012-12-27 01:40:26 PM
1 votes:
My biggest complaint with the new Star Trek movies is the casting of Simon Pegg as Scotty. I love Simon Pegg, but he's just not right for that role, and Scotty was more than just the comic relief on the original show. Pegg plays him as far too broad. Karl Urban is great as McCoy, as is Quinto as Spock, Chris Pine as young Kirk is merely okay, but I'm not sure who would have been better. And yes, the Red Matter plot doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and nor does Nero without reading the official prequel comic, and i shouldn't have to do that to enjoy a movie. It was fun though, and I enjoyed seeing the Enterprise on the big screen again. I enjoyed the Into Darkness preview before the Hobbit as well, and not just because I think Benedict Cumberbatch is basically the most awesome man alive not named Bruce Campbell. His villain seemed interesting, and not just a Khan/Gary Mitchell redux.

I'm just sad that between Cumberbatch in Trek and doing mocap for Smaug, as well as Martin freeman being Bilbo, the chances of getting more new episodes of Sherlock are slim. I guess I could watch the Lucy Liu thing on CBS, but why would I want to?
2012-12-27 01:31:56 PM
1 votes:

LlamaGirl: I'm proud to be "part of the problem" if it keeps pissing off curmudgeoney asshats like yourself.

PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS! OH MY GOD! The horror!!!


I simply cannot accept the garbage that qualifies as cinema now. I wish I could be like you and not have that problem, but I guess I'm just too goddamned intelligent - it's a blessing and a curse.
I'm encouraging people to have higher standards. If they did we would have better "art" in film instead of constantly being offered the cinematic equivalent of Taylor Swift's new single. I don't want all the available music to be Taylor Swift any more than I want all the available movies to be like the new "Star Trek". For people who can "see through" the action sequences to the shallow worthless p.o.s. that movies like that one are it can be quite frustrating. Avatar and Dark Knight Rises are also fine examples of this. They are embarrassing to watch...but like rats to the feeder bar people just throw money at them and so shiat films just never stop.
Until one day...
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2012-12-27 01:20:18 PM
1 votes:

Diogenes Teufelsdrockh: LlamaGirl: But Star Trek was good.

Besides, Star Wars is terrible. Just terrible.

No, it wasn't. It was a generic space flick, entertaining for one watch through, maybe two, and then relegated to the B-movie schlock pile with the other space movies with ships that look like buildings and breweries inside. The only trappings related to anything Star Trek are purely superficial; the names, the uniforms and the ship design, but the central philosophies of the show and the heart was completely absent. It's as though someone with zero familiarity with the franchise were given the job to create a ST film and read only the IMDB synposis, looked at a handful of pictures and commenced filming without a clue.

"Oh, there was a hot green chick in the original? Throw one in there for Kirk to bone as fan service. Boobs fill seats...Give that doctor guy a catch phrase else no one will know who he's supposed to be...Wait a second, wasn't there a picture of Sulu fencing shirtless circulating around about the time George got married? Well, give him a sword, dammit! No, not that one; he's asian fercrissakes, so make it a katana. Tarantino uses katanas with asians and rakes in the bucks, so will we but make it all fold out and lens-flarey shiat 'cause this is the future and the future's too bright to see what the hell's going on anyways...No, don't do phasers like that, make it all pew-pew-pew like Star Wars. People get distracted easily by bright, colored lights and will think this film good if we have enough in there...Moral quandry? What's this BS? Get rid of it, the only quandary Pine will have is how to bang Zoe and Quinto...What? This "Kirk" guy is supposed to be captain? Screw it, we'll do that in the last scene. Who cares if it doesn't make any sense? I'm Abrams, biatch! People buy my crap and it never makes any sense!"

Ok generic space action movie, complete failure as a Star Trek movie. Shatner must feel vindicated by no longer being the worst ST director, at least he had ...


So you're saying that you didn't think it made any sense that Kirk, a novice crew member that had recently been left to die on an ice planet due to mutiny, could become Captain just by inciting a fist fight with the current Captain, and that the crew wouldn't just automatically follow him?

You know nothing about how the navy works, sir. That's EXACTLY what happens.

(It was another case of a crappy plot we were supposed to believe because we KNEW the characters were all buddies and pals, it was just that THEY didn't know it! Johnny Lens Flare wanted to use the names and history of the franchise as a crutch, then uses it to prop up idiotic plot holes. Spock, his unarmed and unescorted ship filled with enough red matter to destroy the entire galaxy. My suspension of disbelief, puking in the theatre bathroom after being expected to swallow that tripe.)
2012-12-27 01:16:30 PM
1 votes:

bluorangefyre: If anybody ruined Star Trek it was Rick Berman and whoever the other guy was who took over Trek after Roddenberry died.


Berman killing Star Trek did not give Abrams the right to sell the corpse into prostitution.

The issue I had with the Star Trek reboot wasn't the movie itself; it's that it was the wrong movie.  If you're going to make some generic space action flick full of usual dudebro movie pick-n'-mix characters, don't use the label of a show that made TV history for its progressive morality plays.  It's like turning Casablanca into porn.  There's nothing WRONG with porn, some of it's good even, but they change the titles from stuff like "Saving Private Ryan" to "Saving Ryan's Privates" because the porn industry has more dignity.

If Abrams used the title "Space Adventure" or something like that and merely changed the names and designs no one would've ever made a fuss about it because no one would've realized it was really supposed to be Star Trek.
2012-12-27 01:05:16 PM
1 votes:

Minus 1 Charisma: I'm a huge Star Trek fan...
The latest Star Trek movie wasn't a Star Trek movie. It was Hollywood garbage for the wal-mart masses of idiot Americans. That can be said (sort of) for the TNG films as well - but it wasn't nearly as blatant as the latest one which only served to extract as much money as possible from as many of the brain-dead, wal-mart shopping masses. If you watched the latest Star Trek and you call it a "good movie" then you are part of the problem. The movie was farking ridiculously stupid.
Come to think of it movies all farking suck these days.
Get off my lawn.


I'm proud to be "part of the problem" if it keeps pissing off curmudgeoney asshats like yourself.

PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS! OH MY GOD! The horror!!!


You're dumb and cranky. Blah!
2012-12-27 12:59:16 PM
1 votes:
I'm a huge Star Trek fan...
The latest Star Trek movie wasn't a Star Trek movie. It was Hollywood garbage for the wal-mart masses of idiot Americans. That can be said (sort of) for the TNG films as well - but it wasn't nearly as blatant as the latest one which only served to extract as much money as possible from as many of the brain-dead, wal-mart shopping masses. If you watched the latest Star Trek and you call it a "good movie" then you are part of the problem. The movie was farking ridiculously stupid.
Come to think of it movies all farking suck these days.
Get off my lawn.
2012-12-27 12:44:38 PM
1 votes:

LlamaGirl: But Star Trek was good.

Besides, Star Wars is terrible. Just terrible.


No, it wasn't. It was a generic space flick, entertaining for one watch through, maybe two, and then relegated to the B-movie schlock pile with the other space movies with ships that look like buildings and breweries inside. The only trappings related to anything Star Trek are purely superficial; the names, the uniforms and the ship design, but the central philosophies of the show and the heart was completely absent. It's as though someone with zero familiarity with the franchise were given the job to create a ST film and read only the IMDB synposis, looked at a handful of pictures and commenced filming without a clue.

"Oh, there was a hot green chick in the original? Throw one in there for Kirk to bone as fan service. Boobs fill seats...Give that doctor guy a catch phrase else no one will know who he's supposed to be...Wait a second, wasn't there a picture of Sulu fencing shirtless circulating around about the time George got married? Well, give him a sword, dammit! No, not that one; he's asian fercrissakes, so make it a katana. Tarantino uses katanas with asians and rakes in the bucks, so will we but make it all fold out and lens-flarey shiat 'cause this is the future and the future's too bright to see what the hell's going on anyways...No, don't do phasers like that, make it all pew-pew-pew like Star Wars. People get distracted easily by bright, colored lights and will think this film good if we have enough in there...Moral quandry? What's this BS? Get rid of it, the only quandary Pine will have is how to bang Zoe and Quinto...What? This "Kirk" guy is supposed to be captain? Screw it, we'll do that in the last scene. Who cares if it doesn't make any sense? I'm Abrams, biatch! People buy my crap and it never makes any sense!"

Ok generic space action movie, complete failure as a Star Trek movie. Shatner must feel vindicated by no longer being the worst ST director, at least he had a clue that there's supposed to be something deeper to the movie than the director fellating himself on the screen with lots of flashy colored lights and nothing of substance.

I knew the movie failed the moment Spock and Kirk were beamed out at the last moment and rather than feeling the sense of elation the movie was trying to build up, I felt a major let down. Something's wrong with the movie when the viewer is hoping the two main characters will just hurry up and die.
2012-12-27 12:39:35 PM
1 votes:

LlamaGirl: But Star Trek was good.

Besides, Star Wars is terrible. Just terrible.


I love you.
2012-12-27 12:38:38 PM
1 votes:

texdent: NERD FIGHT!!!

On a related note: X-Wing vs Defiant


Don't you think a single man fighter vs. a small but bleeding edge warship is a miss match right from the start??
2012-12-27 12:34:14 PM
1 votes:
NERD FIGHT!!!


On a related note: X-Wing vs Defiant
2012-12-27 12:19:53 PM
1 votes:

Kyro: LlamaGirl: Star Wars is terrible. Just terrible.

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You too fight nice. Also, Episode I is an affront to God himself.
2012-12-27 12:15:56 PM
1 votes:

LlamaGirl: Star Wars is terrible. Just terrible.


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2012-12-27 12:14:16 PM
1 votes:

Big Beef Burrito: zedster: LlamaGirl: But Star Trek was good.

good film? meh, it was fun but I refuse to call any film with Tyler Perry in it good

I felt it was an enjoyable action flick but failed to use any of the Star Trek moral quandaries, it just ran over itself

That being said Star Wars in the movies themselves was a space opera and not too scifi-y so it actually would be better helmed by JJ "Lens Flair" Abrams

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


TO BE THE LENS, YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE LENS!
2012-12-27 11:42:18 AM
1 votes:

bluorangefyre: LlamaGirl: But Star Trek was good.

THIS!  If anybody ruined Star Trek it was Rick Berman and whoever the other guy was who took over Trek after Roddenberry died.


I must respectfully disagree. Berman and Co. turned it from the scattershot "where are we going today, kids?" to the serial story lines and arcs. Having a story to tell is far better than a collection of vignettes.
2012-12-27 11:36:57 AM
1 votes:
Why would he need to take on Star Wars? He's already trying to turn Star Trek  into Star Wars. Hell, he had R2-D2 in the last movie, for crying out loud.
2012-12-27 11:17:13 AM
1 votes:

LlamaGirl: But Star Trek was good.


good film? meh, it was fun but I refuse to call any film with Tyler Perry in it good

I felt it was an enjoyable action flick but failed to use any of the Star Trek moral quandaries, it just ran over itself

That being said Star Wars in the movies themselves was a space opera and not too scifi-y so it actually would be better helmed by JJ "Lens Flair" Abrams
 
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