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(France 24)   Egypt's new constitution passes with 63.8% of the vote. Americans were shocked and left wondering how a country can get that many people to agree on anything?   (france24.com ) divider line
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2012-12-27 11:25:54 AM  
You know who had a better percentage of the vote?
 
2012-12-27 11:34:42 AM  
Al-acorn
 
2012-12-27 11:37:43 AM  
Oh please tell me it includes the right to health care.
 
2012-12-27 11:39:17 AM  
30% turnout with high levels of irregularity in certain districts.
 
2012-12-27 11:50:33 AM  
Around one-third of the country's 52 million eligible voters cast a ballot in the poll, the president of the commission, Samir Abul Maati, told a news conference in Cairo.

So what's the math there? About 1/4 of the population actually voted for it?
 
2012-12-27 11:52:01 AM  
subby is dumbass 63.8%
 
2012-12-27 11:52:11 AM  

manimal2878: Around one-third of the country's 52 million eligible voters cast a ballot in the poll, the president of the commission, Samir Abul Maati, told a news conference in Cairo.

So what's the math there? About 1/4 of the population actually voted for it?


Does not factor in ballot box stuffing
 
2012-12-27 11:53:04 AM  
From what I hear, there's very little about Egypt's new constitution that's"spiffy" except from the point of view of a theocrat.
 
2012-12-27 12:02:13 PM  

BMulligan: From what I hear, there's very little about Egypt's new constitution that's"spiffy" except from the point of view of a theocrat.


^This
 
2012-12-27 12:02:40 PM  
Considering the voter intimidation, ballot stuffing, etc... I think this election is more rigged than a Harlem Globetrotters game.
 
2012-12-27 12:13:11 PM  
Ludicrously low 30-something percent turnout, that's how.
 
2012-12-27 12:17:41 PM  
That question mark doesn't belong there. You are making a statement about what Americans are wondering. You are not asking us anything.


I think everything that needs to be said about the article has already been said in this thread.
 
2012-12-27 12:19:38 PM  

SirGunslinger: Considering the voter intimidation, ballot stuffing, etc... I think this election is more rigged than a Harlem Globetrotters game.


Wait... what are you saying?

/Go Generals! This time for sure!
 
2012-12-27 12:22:43 PM  
Votes for ratification of US Constitution

One wonders what percentage of Americans favored the ratification of the US Constitution. If we're talking about a lowly 30% voter turnout in Egypt, consider how the US ratified its Constitution through majority vote by representatives of each state. There wasn't an overwhelming amount of support for it in several states.
 
2012-12-27 12:25:46 PM  
Americans were shocked and left wondering how a country can get that many people to agree on anything?

Quite simple, actually. They used the Republican tactic of suppressing the vote. They didn't tell their opponents where the voting places were located.
 
2012-12-27 12:30:17 PM  
I don't care, let them have it and own it.
 
2012-12-27 12:35:18 PM  

RevCarter: 30% turnout with high levels of irregularity in certain districts.


Scott Walker wins!
 
2012-12-27 01:18:36 PM  
Let them try and see if it works. France took awhile and don't get me started on how Rome handled government when it got started.
 
2012-12-27 03:34:24 PM  
Wow, based on the number of comments, no on gives a shiat about Egypt. Can't imagine why.
 
2012-12-27 03:40:38 PM  

manimal2878: Around one-third of the country's 52 million eligible voters cast a ballot in the poll, the president of the commission, Samir Abul Maati, told a news conference in Cairo.

So what's the math there? About 1/4 of the population actually voted for it?


.3 * .638 = 0.1914

so more like 1/5th.
 
2012-12-27 04:16:00 PM  

BMulligan: From what I hear, there's very little about Egypt's new constitution that's"spiffy" except from the point of view of a theocrat.


It creates the ultimate centrally planned socialist welfare state. What's not to love about that. It says the state is responsible for everyone from cradle to grave. Industry will be guided from above by top men. Everyone has the right to food, housing, health care, and the proper religion. Paradise, really.
 
2012-12-27 04:18:25 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-27 06:37:05 PM  

clambam: Wow, based on the number of comments, no on gives a shiat about Egypt. Can't imagine why.


We give a shiat, but there's just not much to say about this that isn't already painfully obvious.
 
2012-12-27 06:41:24 PM  
This one very scary "constitution" they just passed. For one thing, it actually allows slavery to be legal again.
 
2012-12-27 08:46:03 PM  

TV's Vinnie: This one very scary "constitution" they just passed. For one thing, it actually allows slavery to be legal again.


Starting with the women?
 
2012-12-28 01:54:23 AM  
Unfortunately women's rights are about to be trampled in Egypt.

"To the first girl born in Egypt in 2013;

Merry Christmas! Let me be the first one to tell you that your country has ratified a constitution that says "women's equality should be qualified by compliance with religious laws". That means that as you grow up, you will be indoctrinated into believing that you are inferior to your brothers, and when people like me tell you to stand up for yourself you'll refuse, saying that "you don't want to cause trouble". When your own mother drags you by the hair to get married to a much older man that you've never met, I guess you can at least take comfort in the fact that you are following your religion. You'll also be following your religion when you can't divorce him after he sexually abuses you and your own family won't take you back, lest you cause them "shame".

You know what's strange, First Girl of 2013? The oppressive dictates against women by the evil men who call themselves Islamist in your country are actually un-Islamic. Someone needs to tell them that. Will that someone be you? I imagine, though, that that will be hard to do when you're a prisoner in your own home, scared to go outside lest you get stoned for accidentally showing your "lewd" ankle.

Merry Christmas, young women of Egypt! Some fight for law. Some fight for justice. Which one will you fight for? "
 
2012-12-28 03:08:09 AM  

clambam: Wow, based on the number of comments, no on gives a shiat about Egypt. Can't imagine why.


It's not entirely news.  Passage was expected.  Low turnout isn't a surprise since there's a lot of dissatisfaction with the constitution but also a lot of folks who don't necessarily want to opt-into another round of upheaval either.  Egypt is probably sitting right on a knife edge.  You have to feel for the average Egyptian who really wants democracy, probably does favor more Islamic influence in the law but also wants stability and Western culture at his fingertips.

If Morsi sticks to what he said at one point, that this is not a final document but he's willing to work with opponents to amend and moderate it, things could play out well.  Since it's the Middle East, it takes a hell of a leap of faith to be optimistic...
 
2012-12-28 08:23:16 AM  

wejash: It's not entirely news.  Passage was expected.  Low turnout isn't a surprise since there's a lot of dissatisfaction with the constitution but also a lot of folks who don't necessarily want to opt-into another round of upheaval either.  Egypt is probably sitting right on a knife edge.  You have to feel for the average Egyptian who really wants democracy, probably does favor more Islamic influence in the law but also wants stability and Western culture at his fingertips.

If Morsi sticks to what he said at one point, that this is not a final document but he's willing to work with opponents to amend and moderate it, things could play out well.  Since it's the Middle East, it takes a hell of a leap of faith to be optimistic...


My impression is, in the Arab world, when given the opportunity to vote, people's first impulse is to strip themselves of the right to vote and establish a theocracy. Looks like that's what's going on here.
 
A7
2012-12-29 12:16:35 AM  
"Shocked Americans" have no idea what it took to get the US Constitution approved by the Sovereign States of America.
 
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