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(Telegraph)   The tenth most popular Christmas list request for children was a "dad". Mostly from the kids of Michael Lohan   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 2
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2012-12-27 06:36:03 PM
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Marine1: Kimothy: jjwars1: Marine1: ghare: Marine1: It's almost as if 40 years of telling men that they're parental extras and that women can handle it all, regardless of circumstance, has come back to bite us in the ass.

Couldn't have seen that coming.

Marine1: It's almost as if 40 years of telling men that they're parental extras and that women can handle it all, regardless of circumstance, has come back to bite us in the ass.

Couldn't have seen that coming.

Except no one actually ever said that, but yeah, other than it never happened, exactly.

Uhhhh huh. Which is why my Facebook feed is clogged with young women around my age (21) saying that the fathers of their children are worthless, that they "don't need no man", and that it's "you and me against the world", speaking to their children.

/bonus is that few of them have any sort of education beyond high school or a GED
//but that's besides the point here

It also seems to me there were some heated debates about child care and single mothers on fark a while back when some political figure suggested this situation was not ideal when raising kids. There was a lot of outrage from every angle. No, I'm not going to search the Farkives on my phone. Search it out!

I'm sure that had nothing to do with those "men" (and I use that term loosely in this case) knocked them up then bailed? I teach high school at a school that specializes in at-risk kids. We get LOTS of pregnant girls, because our school helps with childcare. I'd say maybe 1-2% of the boys stick it out and are part of their child's lives.

If you really believe that this is the result of 40 years of BS (and I agree, that never really happened), then tell me - why didn't men fight harder to be part of their children's lives? Why do so many take the easy road and bail, leaving women with NO CHOICE but to live without them?

Are your children not worth fighting for?

They're not expected to fight for their children, at least not in any meaningful way. Fathers who don ...


Yeah, I have to agree with that assessment. But it's men who control the Hollywood machine, not women.    And men dominate the judiciary, and legislatures, and congress, and everything else. You have set up this dynamic, or at least are as complicit, if not more so, than women. Putting the blame at the feet of women just allows you (generic men, not you in particular) to remove yourself from any responsibility whatsoever. It's easier to escape than to step up and take responsibility.

But once again, that leads to the question, aren't your children worth fighting for? Is it just too hard a challenge to stay and be fathers?
2012-12-27 04:34:00 PM
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jjwars1: Marine1: ghare: Marine1: It's almost as if 40 years of telling men that they're parental extras and that women can handle it all, regardless of circumstance, has come back to bite us in the ass.

Couldn't have seen that coming.

Marine1: It's almost as if 40 years of telling men that they're parental extras and that women can handle it all, regardless of circumstance, has come back to bite us in the ass.

Couldn't have seen that coming.

Except no one actually ever said that, but yeah, other than it never happened, exactly.

Uhhhh huh. Which is why my Facebook feed is clogged with young women around my age (21) saying that the fathers of their children are worthless, that they "don't need no man", and that it's "you and me against the world", speaking to their children.

/bonus is that few of them have any sort of education beyond high school or a GED
//but that's besides the point here

It also seems to me there were some heated debates about child care and single mothers on fark a while back when some political figure suggested this situation was not ideal when raising kids. There was a lot of outrage from every angle. No, I'm not going to search the Farkives on my phone. Search it out!


I'm sure that had nothing to do with those "men" (and I use that term loosely in this case) knocked them up then bailed? I teach high school at a school that specializes in at-risk kids. We get LOTS of pregnant girls, because our school helps with childcare. I'd say maybe 1-2% of the boys stick it out and are part of their child's lives.

If you really believe that this is the result of 40 years of BS (and I agree, that never really happened), then tell me - why didn't men fight harder to be part of their children's lives? Why do so many take the easy road and bail, leaving women with NO CHOICE but to live without them?

Are your children not worth fighting for?
 
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