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(Calgary Herald)   1,500+ guns traded in for groceries in Los Angeles. Next week's news: "Come at me with that banana"   (calgaryherald.com) divider line 69
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2012-12-27 05:34:51 AM  
supposing he has a bunch?
 
2012-12-27 06:18:05 AM  
Suppose he's got a pointed stick?
 
2012-12-27 08:27:24 AM  

PainInTheASP: Suppose he's got a pointed stick?


shut up!
 
2012-12-27 10:55:45 AM  
Guns for fruit? This might cause the NRA to have some sort of wrath.
 
2012-12-27 11:00:24 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: Guns for fruit? This might cause the NRA to have some sort of wrath.


And that'd be just peachy
 
2012-12-27 12:02:30 PM  
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don't drop the banana
 
2012-12-27 12:35:34 PM  
I hope all the cowards that turned in their guns get robbed for the groceries by those that didn't
 
2012-12-27 12:36:29 PM  
Ah, government efficiency; only the government would buy an asset just to destroy it and not see if someone would buy it from them.

/ I realize most of what they get is trash; but, sometimes, they destroy priceless historical artifacts.
 
2012-12-27 12:36:43 PM  
After the bank job, I know a place we can ditch the guns, and get groceries.
 
2012-12-27 12:45:04 PM  
sbadrinath.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-27 12:45:40 PM  
What? That leaves over 400 million left to go?
The sound of a single raindrop hitting the middle of the ocean.

So much foolishness is about to hit us all with any discussion on guns. Let it go! There is nothing short of a police state that will change the current situation and that is why there are so many guns out there.
 
2012-12-27 12:45:57 PM  
So if they can see the banana in your pocket, is it still Brandishing?
 
2012-12-27 12:49:52 PM  
So can we expect stabbings, beatings, hit and runs, and bombings to go up relative to shootings in LA then?
 
2012-12-27 12:52:27 PM  
In other news, people robbed at gun point for their gift cards.

In even other news, Gift cards traded for automatic weapons.
 
2012-12-27 12:54:02 PM  
And? The local gun store that I buy from has sold about 3000 NEW guns this year....not exactly an even trade...

/and yes, a couple of those 3000 might have been purchased by yours truly
 
2012-12-27 12:54:50 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: I hope all the cowards that turned in their guns get robbed for the groceries by those that didn't


It it's like other gun trade ins, you often get a bunch of gunnies who've managed to collect some of the cheapest, most useless firearms available; turning in $20 guns for $50 gift cards.
They still have plenty of guns.
 
2012-12-27 12:57:58 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: I hope all the cowards that turned in their guns get robbed for the groceries by those that didn't


Unfortunately the majority of the guns were probably stolen first.
 
2012-12-27 12:58:38 PM  
What a complete farce.

The guns which get sold there are mainly so old and rusted they are not worth $100, and the sellers usually take the money and buy better quality guns.

They did the same thing for cars a few years back.
 
2012-12-27 12:58:55 PM  

chevydeuce: And? The local gun store that I buy from has sold about 3000 NEW guns this year....not exactly an even trade...

/and yes, a couple of those 3000 might have been purchased by yours truly


Buybacks are great for the firearms industry. I can guarantee they must have thought this concept up.

Take all the cheap, used, firearms out of the market, mostly from poor people inheriting it from a spouse or parent, doesn't know the myriad of laws in place and just wants to get rid of it, then introduce new firearms to the market at a much higher price.
 
2012-12-27 12:59:43 PM  
Every time I see video of these buy backs, I lament the waste of time and money. I don't see people dressed in gang attire selling guns; I see middle class people who don't know what else to do with dead grandfather's old guns.

Yes, dumb people need a way to get rid of unwanted guns - since they are not smart enough to sell the guns on their own or through a gun store. But how does getting law abiding people to turn over guns do anything to reduce crime?
 
2012-12-27 01:00:00 PM  

Firethorn: Smeggy Smurf: I hope all the cowards that turned in their guns get robbed for the groceries by those that didn't

It it's like other gun trade ins, you often get a bunch of gunnies who've managed to collect some of the cheapest, most useless firearms available; turning in $20 guns for $50 gift cards.
They still have plenty of guns.


Come on, it's more like trade in the guns they stole. I think in Cal. they get 100 or 200, which is nothing compared to the price of even a cheap Walmart gun. But if ain't your to start with....cha-ching.....easy money.
 
2012-12-27 01:00:05 PM  
Waist of time and money. Just a show.
 
2012-12-27 01:00:20 PM  

rev. dave: What? That leaves over 400 million left to go?
The sound of a single raindrop hitting the middle of the ocean.

So much foolishness is about to hit us all with any discussion on guns. Let it go! There is nothing short of a police state that will change the current situation and that is why there are so many guns out there.


THIS> Also, I have to add, that is exactly what they have in mind. Why else create a "gun free zone," where criminals can kill at liesure and not face return fire?
 
2012-12-27 01:00:32 PM  

rev. dave: What? That leaves over 400 million left to go?


Who says they didn't just walk up the road and buy a bunch of new ones?

/many times here the buy backs are followed by a rash of crime.
/they stopped doing them after a while.
 
2012-12-27 01:06:08 PM  
As Harry Callahan once said...

I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six tater tots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a deep fryer, the largest deep fryer in the world, and would blow your colon clean out, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
 
2012-12-27 01:07:57 PM  
Is it a gift card for each gun or for all the guns you bring in at the same time?
 
2012-12-27 01:11:32 PM  
 
2012-12-27 01:14:06 PM  
From the article and the stories carried about this on CNN, HLN, CNBC, NBC, ABC, FOX and the BBC you would think that LA is now disarmed. Voluntarily I might add. But here are some facts.

So in a city of 3.8 million people they managed to get 1,500 to 1,600 guns. Considering gun ownership numbers in the USofA stands at about 1 for 1 that leaves about 3.8 million guns in private hands in LA. Really this is the worst pandering, puff piece journalism I have seen in a long time. Perfect for inclusion on FARK.
 
2012-12-27 01:28:12 PM  
Typical liberal thinking. Throw money at a problem without regard to the effectiveness or sanity of it. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of thugs are just aching to return to a law-abiding life if only the police department would buy back their guns.
 
2012-12-27 01:28:34 PM  
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2012-12-27 01:29:41 PM  
But we already done bananas.
 
2012-12-27 01:31:11 PM  
heard about the gun buy back in LA on NPR yesterday. They interviewed some of the people, 2 of 3: I have plenty of guns, this is cheap crap I can't sell elsewhere. The third: It was my brothers, we don't know what else to do with it after he died.

None of these guns were criminal's or likely to be used by criminals. The exile program that NPR also talked about a few weeks ago, would be more effective at reducing gun violence.
 
2012-12-27 01:32:20 PM  

iheartscotch: I realize most of what they get is trash; but, sometimes, they destroy priceless historical artifacts.


This might interest you, sometimes the officers running the program spot historical weapons and save them. For example when an elderly lady turned in an STG 44 they told her what it was and that she would make a lot more money selling it than turning it in Link
 
2012-12-27 01:33:37 PM  
Korean store owners in Los Angeles approve of this program.

/ Old enough to remember the LA riots of 1992 and 1968.
 
2012-12-27 01:37:36 PM  

Okie_Gunslinger: iheartscotch: I realize most of what they get is trash; but, sometimes, they destroy priceless historical artifacts.

This might interest you, sometimes the officers running the program spot historical weapons and save them. For example when an elderly lady turned in an STG 44 they told her what it was and that she would make a lot more money selling it than turning it in Link


Yep, I remember the story; it was featured on fark. But, often as not, the gun is destroyed instead of ending up in a museum.

/ one example I remember concerns a singer sowing machine 1911
 
2012-12-27 01:38:02 PM  

manimal2878: heard about the gun buy back in LA on NPR yesterday. They interviewed some of the people, 2 of 3: I have plenty of guns, this is cheap crap I can't sell elsewhere. The third: It was my brothers, we don't know what else to do with it after he died.

None of these guns were criminal's or likely to be used by criminals. The exile program that NPR also talked about a few weeks ago, would be more effective at reducing gun violence.


The NRA has been a strong supporter of Project Exile since the late 1990s. In short: Mandatory sentences for gun crimes. More details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Exile and other places. Even the Brady Campaign was in favor of it.

It seems like this is common ground that both sides can agree on. Can we start with this, see how it goes, and adjust from there? Can anyone give me a good reason why it wouldn't work? Seems to have worked where it's been tried.

/could have linked to the NRA's pages but didn't want to be accused of bias. Easy to find.

//also curious if NPR mentioned NRA's involvement in getting it passed in Virginia and other locations?
 
2012-12-27 01:43:27 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: I hope all the cowards that turned in their guns get robbed for the groceries by those that didn't


I didn't realize that they let you post on the internet when your institutionalized.
 
2012-12-27 01:43:49 PM  

iheartscotch: one example I remember concerns a singer sowing machine 1911


Ouch... Yeah you know sometimes you have to wonder why people put so little thought into turning things like that in.. I mean really with the widespread availability of the internet researching the value of a weapon isn't exactly hard....
 
2012-12-27 01:45:55 PM  
What a shocker, they found 1500 cowards in Los Angeles
latewire.com
 
2012-12-27 01:48:48 PM  

rev. dave: What? That leaves over 400 million left to go?
The sound of a single raindrop hitting the middle of the ocean.

So much foolishness is about to hit us all with any discussion on guns. Let it go! There is nothing short of a police state that will change the current situation and that is why there are so many guns out there.


More like a raindrop hitting a 2.3 gallon bucket, really. Well, I mean, unless you're used to 500 million gallon raindrops.
 
2012-12-27 01:57:02 PM  

djh0101010: //also curious if NPR mentioned NRA's involvement in getting it passed in Virginia and other locations?


The story I heard was specifically about how the Police Chief in Baltimore turned around the cities gun crime rate, lowering the arrest rate for trivial crimes and targeting those that commit crimes with guns. I don't recall the NRA being mentioned, that they or anybody else supported the Exile program wouldn't have really been relevant.
 
2012-12-27 02:08:15 PM  

Okie_Gunslinger: iheartscotch: one example I remember concerns a singer sowing machine 1911

Ouch... Yeah you know sometimes you have to wonder why people put so little thought into turning things like that in.. I mean really with the widespread availability of the internet researching the value of a weapon isn't exactly hard....


It's the same story every time; grandpa died and his children didn't want anything to do with firearms. Then they sell something worth $35,000-$45,000 for $150. That's without taking into account the irreplaceable nature and historical value of something like that.
 
2012-12-27 02:12:09 PM  
These people never heard of Craigslist?

Possibly get more than a few cans of chili for them.
 
2012-12-27 02:25:56 PM  
Hey guys, I thought guns were merely neutral tools, with no more moral value or weight than a sewing machine or a hammer.

Why all the outrage about unwanted guns being destroyed? Surely it's no more interesting than 1500 unwanted saws, hammers and sewing machines being destroyed?
 
2012-12-27 02:26:39 PM  

djh0101010: manimal2878: heard about the gun buy back in LA on NPR yesterday. They interviewed some of the people, 2 of 3: I have plenty of guns, this is cheap crap I can't sell elsewhere. The third: It was my brothers, we don't know what else to do with it after he died.

None of these guns were criminal's or likely to be used by criminals. The exile program that NPR also talked about a few weeks ago, would be more effective at reducing gun violence.

The NRA has been a strong supporter of Project Exile since the late 1990s. In short: Mandatory sentences for gun crimes. More details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Exile and other places. Even the Brady Campaign was in favor of it.

It seems like this is common ground that both sides can agree on. Can we start with this, see how it goes, and adjust from there? Can anyone give me a good reason why it wouldn't work? Seems to have worked where it's been tried.

/could have linked to the NRA's pages but didn't want to be accused of bias. Easy to find.

//also curious if NPR mentioned NRA's involvement in getting it passed in Virginia and other locations?


One good reason it won't work; we would have to stop punishing drug users to make room for violent criminals.
 
2012-12-27 02:29:04 PM  

clane: What a shocker, they found 1500 cowards in Los Angeles
[latewire.com image 400x316]


I know right? Usually you have to go to an NRA convention, Republican fund raiser, or Tea Party protest to find that many cowards.
 
2012-12-27 02:30:28 PM  

ManicParroT: Hey guys, I thought guns were merely neutral tools, with no more moral value or weight than a sewing machine or a hammer.

Why all the outrage about unwanted guns being destroyed? Surely it's no more interesting than 1500 unwanted saws, hammers and sewing machines being destroyed?


The government started up a saw and hammer buy back program?! I'm heading to Wally World to pickup all the old Saw dvds and some cheap hammers to trade for 50$ gift cards so I can go back and get more. Soon the world will have no Saw DvD's and the hammer industry will be booming.
 
2012-12-27 02:34:44 PM  

ManicParroT: Why all the outrage about unwanted guns being destroyed? Surely it's no more interesting than 1500 unwanted saws, hammers and sewing machines being destroyed?


In general, I hold no outrage for government gun buybacks. It's a waste of money, of course, but that's for taxpayers in the area to worry over. The world's not going to be injured by the loss of rusted-out Mosin-Nagants or other badly-kept firearms. But even a saw, hammer, or sewing machine can hold value as a historical artifact if it's old enough. Other than that...meh. A waste of time and police resources, and direly overinflated in importance and effectiveness. That would upset me if it were done where I live, but this is a relatively small waste of resources by local governments (which is a sad statement itself).

What causes you to think that people are "outraged" about this?
 
2012-12-27 02:35:36 PM  

manimal2878: djh0101010: //also curious if NPR mentioned NRA's involvement in getting it passed in Virginia and other locations?

The story I heard was specifically about how the Police Chief in Baltimore turned around the cities gun crime rate, lowering the arrest rate for trivial crimes and targeting those that commit crimes with guns. I don't recall the NRA being mentioned, that they or anybody else supported the Exile program wouldn't have really been relevant.


I'd say it's extremely relevant. The press, NPR especially, touts success of a program but doesn't give credit to the NRA for its involvement and support in it? Yet, they have no problem bashing the NRA for shootings. Seems to me that blaming the NRA (and, by extension, their membership) for the acts of a criminal is unfair - not giving the NRA credit for their actual actions, is also unfair.

Almost like NPR doesn't want people to know what the NRA is actually about or something.
 
2012-12-27 02:38:47 PM  

ManicParroT: Hey guys, I thought guns were merely neutral tools, with no more moral value or weight than a sewing machine or a hammer.

Why all the outrage about unwanted guns being destroyed? Surely it's no more interesting than 1500 unwanted saws, hammers and sewing machines being destroyed?


It's not just about the destruction of rare museum pieces - it's also the fact that these are invariably "no questions asked" events. So if you've shot someone with a gun, and there's ballistic evidence that could tie that weapon to a crime, now you have a way to not just get rid of the evidence, but to also get paid for it.
 
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