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2012-12-27 07:05:25 AM

Frederf: Dark ages people with old ways of thinking need to go away so the actual future of humanity can move on.


Please tell us how so much better than the rest of humanity you are. It's soooo fascinating.
 
2012-12-27 07:05:29 AM

feckingmorons: Normal people know that journalists will manipulate what they say, edit what they say to serve the journalist's purpose, or simply lie.


There's an upside to that. If you're careful, you can get them to package the story exactly as you tell them to. They're lazy, and they just want to collect their paycheck and go home.
 
2012-12-27 07:06:58 AM

Rincewind53: This is my hometown newspaper, so I'm getting a kick, etc...

iq_in_binary: They got off easy. If I was on that list I'd post everything on them I can find. And I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, their private cell phone numbers, their spouses employers, everything I could find on them AND their family.

Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

It was all public information, Mr. ITG. All they did was put it on a map. If anyone had wanted to, they could have compiled this list at any point, at any time.


So treat legal gun owners like pedophiles?
 
2012-12-27 07:08:00 AM

SlothB77: Rincewind53: This is my hometown newspaper, so I'm getting a kick, etc...

iq_in_binary: They got off easy. If I was on that list I'd post everything on them I can find. And I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, their private cell phone numbers, their spouses employers, everything I could find on them AND their family.

Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

It was all public information, Mr. ITG. All they did was put it on a map. If anyone had wanted to, they could have compiled this list at any point, at any time.

So treat legal gun owners like pedophiles?


You're not helping.
 
2012-12-27 07:08:56 AM
Well it's pretty much becoming a war, so all's fair.
 
2012-12-27 07:09:07 AM

BlameBush: Journalism seems to have one intent and that is "how can we alarm people today?" by making news where there is none and combining it with real news in such a way as to cause unease and (they think) a dependency on the media for more news. If the headline is alarmist, I don't read the article. Whatever the blaring headline says is usually buried in the story and is inconsequential other than to make an attention grabbing banner. Drudge is the worst (or best) at this. Damn shame - what news organizations have become.


News is a delivery method for advertising. If it's not selling ads it's because you're not selling the news well enough. Like almost any other job, if you can't make your product good enough to sell better than the other guys, you're not going to have a job much longer. There's money to be made.
 
2012-12-27 07:09:22 AM
Just what this debate needed, more evidence that gun owners are a vindictive bunch of douches who are eager to escalate a conflict. I'm sure the general public finds this a very reassuring quality in someone who carries a concealed gun.
 
2012-12-27 07:10:01 AM
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-12-27 07:11:22 AM

ghare: iq_in_binary: They got off easy. If I was on that list I'd post everything on them I can find. And I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, their private cell phone numbers, their spouses employers, everything I could find on them AND their family.

Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

Internet tough guy detected!

Listen, moron, PUBLIC RECORDS are already public! PUBLIC! PUBLICPUBLICPUBLIC! THEY ARE ALREADY PUBLISHED!


So the newspaper staff shouldn't feel at all uncomfortable or intimidated about their information being put out on the internet, right?
 
2012-12-27 07:11:31 AM
Well I guess they shouldn't have pulled that bullsh*t, should they?
 
2012-12-27 07:12:04 AM

Orange-Pippin: I'm surprised no one has posted the #1 derp from the comment section.

[i.imgur.com image 734x197]


are people on welfare a matter of public record? food stamps? disability?

NO MORE SECRETS
time to implant everyone with GPS trackers and keep 10 years of data
of course we will start with the criminals first, felons, LEOs, elected officials.
That data alone will keep the courts and media entertained for decades
 
2012-12-27 07:12:13 AM
Everybody knows there are enough crazies around and you don't need a gun to show up at somebody's house in the middle of the night to express your opinion on their stance anonymously. I'm guessing the newspaper people have been doing coonty things and pissing people off far longer than any of the gun owners. Sleep tight Janet.

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
 
2012-12-27 07:12:45 AM
Internet detectives getting the same done unto them? noproblemwiththis.jpg.
 
2012-12-27 07:13:38 AM
This thread is hilarious. I kind of feel like I'm being trolled, between Iq's ITG act and Cuban beating off to the idea of getting to murder someone.

Anyway, continue with the entertainment.
 
2012-12-27 07:13:41 AM
I love how everyone says "it's public information, what's the big deal?" How many crack-head burglars or gang bangers looking for guns to steal do you know of that would go to the court house or city hall, file the proper request, then go home and compile it all into a nice, handy map? None? That's what I thought.

Now they can just look at this idiots map and decide which houses in their area they should case and hit when no one is home. Or worse, do a home invasion where they or someone in the house ends up getting killed.
 
2012-12-27 07:16:16 AM

Triumph: feckingmorons: Journalistic integrity is gone, it is all agenda driven sensationalization.

I couldn't agree more. Instead of just stoking up the gun control blather, here's what real journalists would be chasing in the Sandy Hook shooting among many other things:

1. The guy they arrested in the woods at the edge of the school who was wearing camo and screaming "I didn't do it." Who is he? What's the story there?
2. What have they learned from security camera footage?
3. How was it that an untrained kid was able to be so deadly, with so many fatalities and so few wounded?
4. What's up with the car towed away from the scene that allegedly had the gun in the trunk? The license plate trace allegedly went out over police scanners and it may belong to a drug dealer - what's up with that?
5. What medications was the shooter on? What kind of psychiatric care was he receiving?
6. Why was it so quickly pronounced that the data from the shooter's hard drive is unrecoverable?

There's plenty more facts to chase, but you get the idea - there's a bona fide story to report, but it's hard to find anyone doing it.


What's this? Common sense? IN A WHARGBARBLE THREAD!?!?!

I'm so ashamed of you. At least put a cheap troll in there.
 
2012-12-27 07:16:16 AM

Cubansaltyballs: namatad: would there be some benefit in using slightly smaller buck shot?
or is the goal in the end, quickly exploding heads with small chance of survival, which is a good thing in dealing with zombies/home invaders

I choose #000 for a few reasons. I'm going to fire a shotgun, so stopping-power/spread is important. I'd either go with #00 buck with 15x pellets or #000 buck with 10 pellets. Personally, the idea of emptying a 10rd magazine of 9mm for every pull of the trigger is appealing to me. Most people are good shots, and I am too, but a high-stress home-invasion is different from the range. So while some prefer handguns for home defense, I prefer shotguns.

Another reason is noise. Dear god, I can't imagine the sound of firing #000 indoors or at close range or worse... standing downrange from it. The sound of a 10x pellet #000 buck round going off sounds like a grenade. It's startling the first time you fire it. If someone was coming into your home and you fired that at them, it would either A) tear them to pieces or B) Make them think you fired a mortar round at them. Either way, that bastard will know he made a big mistake in will rethink his life's choices if he survives.


I knew the shotguns for home invasion and the noise alone. I guess in the end, at close range, the difference between 15 8.4mm and 10 9.1mm is 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. In the end, the effect will be pretty much the same thing.

I have to say, shooting at a range with proper protection really ruined a lot/most movies for me.
REALLY?? You are shooting a gun in a hallway, without earplugs and you can hear without shouting??
ROFL
 
2012-12-27 07:17:19 AM
Eh, I don't see the newspaper's action as that douchebaggy. After all, gun owners are all so damn proud of their babies. They want everyone to know that they're armed so that no one messes with them. The newspaper was doing them a favor, really. Besides, publishing a list of gun owners is no different than publishing a list of pedophiles or government employees. They're people you should get to know. In this case, either so that you don't get shot by the overzealous or that you use the overzealous to shoot.

Couldn't get away with that here without just listing the phonebook. Hell, I "own" three shotguns myself. I shot one of them once, but all three are in my name because of the overzealous nutjob I live with. But I'm already on other lists, so this one would be no different.

/Wanted a handgun but nooooo according to the nutjob, handguns are something you use only to shoot your way back to the shotgun you should have never left behind to start with. Ass.
 
2012-12-27 07:17:26 AM

iq_in_binary: They got off easy. If I was on that list I'd post everything on them I can find. And I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, their private cell phone numbers, their spouses employers, everything I could find on them AND their family.

Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.


The thing to do is mail info on all their children to every registered sex offender in a 25 mile radius and let them know about it. Let them sleep on that thought every night
 
2012-12-27 07:18:29 AM

iq_in_binary: fark their rights, they violated that of thousands. They get to suffer every god damned ramification of having the same thing done of them.


That's sort of the point. Just off the top of my head - what's more privacy-intrusive, 'singling out' 30% (or whatever the rate is) of a population or %0.004 of a population?

Or perhaps - If you join a crowd of people, 30% of whom have a handswidth of red paint on their shirt, and another 10% have a handswidth of red paint where it cannot be seen somewhere, who's been singled out?

And no, your credit report is not a public record.
 
2012-12-27 07:21:11 AM
Epic ITG thread.
 
2012-12-27 07:21:13 AM

abhorrent1: I love how everyone says "it's public information, what's the big deal?" How many crack-head burglars or gang bangers looking for guns to steal do you know of that would go to the court house or city hall, file the proper request, then go home and compile it all into a nice, handy map? None? That's what I thought.

Now they can just look at this idiots map and decide which houses in their area they should case and hit when no one is home. Or worse, do a home invasion where they or someone in the house ends up getting killed.


mhmm
but

there is another side to this that I have not heard anyone talking about.
hypocrisy.
I wonder how many people on the list of owners are vocal anti-gun nuts.
Publicly or privately. They tell their friends that they hate guns, they work for anti-gun orgs, but in their house, they have guns ... LOL

I have a hypocritical sister. She is actively against abortion. But she had an abortion.
I wonder how things might change if some private things all of a sudden became public.
Santorum and Rmoney's wives both had abortions. WBush's drug rehab record. Clinton's paternity tests.
Every politicians exact income, including all the bribes and insider info.
this could make for an interesting change in society
 
2012-12-27 07:22:43 AM

Warlordtrooper: iq_in_binary: They got off easy. If I was on that list I'd post everything on them I can find. And I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, their private cell phone numbers, their spouses employers, everything I could find on them AND their family.

Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

The thing to do is mail info on all their children to every registered sex offender in a 25 mile radius and let them know about it. Let them sleep on that thought every night


ROFL
because sex-offenders have TROUBLE finding the next kid??
it isnt that your analogy is so bad or despicable, it is that it is so silly
 
2012-12-27 07:23:28 AM

Triumph: Personally, I would think that a map of gun permit holders would be useful in helping burglars figure out which homes to avoid, not target....


Granted this information is public record, I just don't see the point the journalist was trying to convey. That said, I have heard your argument time and time again and, no offense, but it really makes no sense. Most home roberries are comitted by people the person knows, not some scary boogie men in the night. Victims said they knew the offender in 65 percent of violent household burglaries (source) so it may be a good idea to check your friends and family ---who already know where you live. The thief also has the element of surprise or will simply wait for you to go on a trip (especially if its someone you know). Case in point, another farmer a few miles down the road was robbed blind by his cousin. He waited for him to go to Florida, pulled up in a moving van and cleaned him out. We are all hunters around here --but his rifle didn't help him that time.
 
2012-12-27 07:23:41 AM

namatad: there is another side to this that I have not heard anyone talking about.
hypocrisy.
I wonder how many people on the list of owners are vocal anti-gun nuts.
Publicly or privately. They tell their friends that they hate guns, they work for anti-gun orgs, but in their house, they have guns ... LOL


Kind of like republicans that talk about "family values" and the gays?
 
2012-12-27 07:26:47 AM

iq_in_binary: way south: ghare: iq_in_binary: They got off easy. If I was on that list I'd post everything on them I can find. And I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, their private cell phone numbers, their spouses employers, everything I could find on them AND their family.

Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

Internet tough guy detected!

Listen, moron, PUBLIC RECORDS are already public! PUBLIC! PUBLICPUBLICPUBLIC! THEY ARE ALREADY PUBLISHED!

No, public records are public but most don't know or think of ways to use them nefariously because they are NOT published in the GODDAMN NEWSPAPER (or on the Internet, or wherever).

It was a bad idea to out gun owners, its a bad idea to out the papers staff.
People need to grow up.

Retaliation needs to happen, or they will think it is a good idea in the future.

I wasn't a part of what was outed, but if I was I would not stop until something bad happened to them to teach them a lesson. This shiat needs to stop, I've seen it happen 5 times already just in my adult life. Until these farkers suffer the consequences of what can happen to the people they jut published on, this shiat will not stop. The last one caught a girl that was trying to keep away from her abusive husband. Until they all or at least some of them suffer the consequences of something like that, they don't deserve any farking quarter. Them and their families are open to anything in retaliation as far as I'm concerned.They need to feel the ramifications of their actions.

fark their rights, they violated that of thousands. They get to suffer every god damned ramification of having the same thing done of them.


Retaliation should happen and I don't disagree that it should be painful, but it should take the form in something they will remember: a lawsuit.

Lets face the fact that the publisher doesn't care about the people. Not others and not its own. They could give FARK all if the guy who wrote this story got tarred and feathered, because its more news and a giant win for the guy selling that news. It's manufactured controversy.

What the publisher needs is to be deprived a few million dollars and be publicly shamed as nothing more than a scandal sheet. That hurts the owners, and they'll put the screws to any editor that approves similarly bad ideas.

Leaving a bag of flaming dog shiat at the reporters door doesn't have the same impact as making his boss sign you a big settlement check.
 
2012-12-27 07:27:07 AM

GAT_00: Kimothy: Have to admit that's one of the best arguments I've heard in favor of concealed carry. I know several people with CC's and they've never explained it this way. It's always been "if I have to kill someone..." arguments, which really suck.

And so if you carry to prevent being shot, isn't making everyone aware that you have a gun making that less likely?  Isn't publishing the names of everyone who owns a gun something gun owners would want?


man, you have shiatty reading comprehension
 
2012-12-27 07:28:32 AM
www.practicaltacticaltraining.com
 
2012-12-27 07:28:59 AM

namatad: Orange-Pippin: I'm surprised no one has posted the #1 derp from the comment section.

[i.imgur.com image 734x197]

are people on welfare a matter of public record? food stamps? disability?

NO MORE SECRETS
time to implant everyone with GPS trackers and keep 10 years of data
of course we will start with the criminals first, felons, LEOs, elected officials.
That data alone will keep the courts and media entertained for decades



Implants are sooooo passé ;) If you are using your grocery "loyalty" card there are no reason for implants.
 
2012-12-27 07:29:36 AM
You only have one gun but statistically, all guns taken together *automatically* create an arms race.
 
2012-12-27 07:30:20 AM
I think the point that is being missed is what John Lott was trying to make in his books is that the thought or threat of someone having a concealed weapon was enough of a deterrent. Now a criminal knows where the guns aren't and in theory, can target the non-gun permitted homes.
 
2012-12-27 07:30:32 AM
Newspaper dudes were dicks. A lot of the responses in this thread sound like they'd like to see the journalists

iq_in_binary: SlothB77: Rincewind53: This is my hometown newspaper, so I'm getting a kick, etc...

iq_in_binary: They got off easy. If I was on that list I'd post everything on them I can find. And I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, their private cell phone numbers, their spouses employers, everything I could find on them AND their family.

Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

It was all public information, Mr. ITG. All they did was put it on a map. If anyone had wanted to, they could have compiled this list at any point, at any time.

So treat legal gun owners like pedophiles?

You're not helping.


I dunno man, I'm on your side in theory when I clicked the thread but reading the stuff like these quotes you posted earlier:

- Pictures of your kids. Where your kids go to school. I can get to all of that in minutes.
- I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, everything I could find on them AND their family.
- I have absolutely no problem doing the same to you with avarice and absolutely NO regard for your well being.
- But then again, I'm the guy that focuses on avoiding the fight in the first place
- Although I do enjoy scaring the ever living fark out of people from time to time
- I would not stop until something bad happened to them to teach them a lesson
- they deserve the anguish of their kids suffering for it
- Them and their families are open to anything in retaliation as far as I'm concerned.
- Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

...makes it sound like you're hoping someone shoots and kills their children. I would say you're not really helping either, you sound like a psycho who is willing to abuse your work resources (if you're a cop or something). If someone cuts you off in traffic do you look up their license number and threaten their newborn? I mean "and their families" man, what did some dumb writer's 5 year old kid do to deserve 'retaliation', just be born to some asshole? Why do you emphasize their kids so much, right after sandy hook?

I assume your argument will be 'my kids were threatened by my address being posted' but there's a reason we have laws and legal recourse rather than 'eye for an eye'. If you can prove you are more in danger as a result of their actions in court, you're entitled to damages. I don't see how a story next week about gun owners threatening children of journalists (eg if you did all that) will change the public at large's mind about this issue, rather it will just reinforce the general misconceptions that people like these journalists have and make people more terrified of CC'ers than they already seem to be. If you really want to be the bigger man, don't resort to threatening children. You won't get too many supporters, I'd imagine.

Just went to the shooting range for 2nd time ever, gf and I are shopping around for a handgun. Had been planning for a while, unrelated to the recent tragedies though. More of a neighborhood-drive thing.

Other more reasonable-sounding people though, I agree upthread. Not sure what the 'journalists' were trying to prove but this isn't helping their cause.
 
2012-12-27 07:30:48 AM
why not post the names and addresses of bath salts users
 
2012-12-27 07:31:34 AM
Thousands of years of recorded history and so far, we've managed "nuh UH, I'm gonna tell on YOU!" *sigh*
 
2012-12-27 07:32:33 AM
A gun can shoot you.
 
2012-12-27 07:32:49 AM
Something I'm wondering: How does the rule from the FArQ apply when Fark links to personal information?
 
2012-12-27 07:32:58 AM
What should be published is a list of those who are not allowed to own a weapon.
 
2012-12-27 07:33:38 AM
Ahhh. The good old days of mutually assured destruction.
 
2012-12-27 07:34:27 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: why not post the names and addresses of bath salts users


Crazy motherfarkers keep eating people that's why.
/Except for McAfee
//Still love that Vice got him caught.
 
2012-12-27 07:34:38 AM

Electromax: iq_in_binary: ...You're not helping.

I dunno man, I'm on your side in theory when I clicked the thread but reading the stuff like these quotes you posted earlier:

- Pictures of your kids. Where your kids go to school. I can get to all of that in minutes.
- I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, everything I could find on them AND their family.
- I have absolutely no problem doing the same to you with avarice and absolutely NO regard for your well being.
- But then again, I'm the guy that focuses on avoiding the fight in the first place
- Although I do enjoy scaring the ever living fark out of people from time to time
- I would not stop until something bad happened to them to teach them a lesson
- they deserve the anguish of their kids suffering for it
- Them and their families are open to anything in retaliation as far as I'm concerned.
- Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

...makes it sound like you're hoping someone shoots and kills their children. I would say you're not really helping either, you sound like a psycho who is willing to abuse your work resources (if you're a cop or something)...


Don't be silly. He's got a roommate and a live-in girlfriend. He's some college or university kid who's trying to turn his script kiddie teen years into a career. He doesn't even know what's public and what isn't, only that he can use a tool to get to it.
 
2012-12-27 07:36:35 AM

namatad: Warlordtrooper: iq_in_binary: They got off easy. If I was on that list I'd post everything on them I can find. And I have access to far more useful tools than that lawyer does. Where their children went to school, their private cell phone numbers, their spouses employers, everything I could find on them AND their family.

Maybe then people would quit trying this shiat to intimidate people.

The thing to do is mail info on all their children to every registered sex offender in a 25 mile radius and let them know about it. Let them sleep on that thought every night

ROFL
because sex-offenders have TROUBLE finding the next kid??
it isnt that your analogy is so bad or despicable, it is that it is so silly


The idea is that you worry the parents to death. How well would you sleep if you knew your child's public info was compiled in the hands of a guy who likes to abuse little kids.


However im concerned about the hypocrisy. The time to be outraged over something like this is when they passed the sex offender registry. Not wait till it actually affects you
 
2012-12-27 07:37:14 AM

Mean Daddy: I think the point that is being missed is what John Lott was trying to make in his books is that the thought or threat of someone having a concealed weapon was enough of a deterrent. Now a criminal knows where the guns aren't and in theory, can target the non-gun permitted homes.


The "umbrella of protection" theory works on uncertainty.
You can walk through a minefield safely if you know where the mines are. With some cunning, you can even pickup a few free boxes of explosives to use as IED's.
Not knowing is what makes the entire area into a "do not trespass" zone.

Criminals are deterred because they know gun owners exist in the area, but they don't know if the house they chose has an unarmed milf or a granny guns with her sons bubba'd up AK-47.
 
2012-12-27 07:37:45 AM

Gulper Eel: If the newspaper wanted to be helpful they could have published a map of domestic violence offenders.

Nothing gets a guy to behave more than the prospect of never getting laid again unless he gets his shiat together.


I'd like a list of welfare recipients. That way i can see where my tax dollars are going. Since they are on public assistance, their names and addresses are not private, correct?

Is that too much to ask?
 
2012-12-27 07:42:54 AM

jso2897: Nah - thieves are greedy and willing to take calculated risks. Guns are the single most valuable commodity on the black market, and are the best burglar-bait there is. A gun in a empty house is a threat to no one but the victim of the criminal who will eventually buy it from the fence a thief sells it to.


Absolutely - When that info is published, that just makes those houses more likely as targets....everybody leaves the house some time, and that's when a burglar will come a-callin'. My BIL has several guns, and someone targeted his house when he wasn't home (he and my sister were traveling), and they took at least 6 guns. His name wasn't published in any paper, and he should have had them in a gun safe bolted to the floor......but still, he was definitely targeted by someone who knew he had guns.
 
2012-12-27 07:44:55 AM

henryhill: Epic ITG thread.


Yup.
 
2012-12-27 07:45:33 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: On a different note, is now a good time to start talking about the state of mental health care in this country, or are we still dead set on the whole 'gun' thing?


^Totally this. Don't give me an assault weapons ban bill without one to make it easier for health professionals to put the mentally ill on a list to prevent gun ownership.
 
2012-12-27 07:46:17 AM

ktybear: Kimothy: Jesus, they're all farking children. Grow up, especially if you own a damn gun.

Done in bloody one

Your gun debate is boring.

But the US loves the sound of its own voice, a constant drone across the world, like a petulant child with too many toys to clean up.


...or scabs it won't stop picking.
 
2012-12-27 07:47:04 AM

Gulper Eel: If the newspaper wanted to be helpful they could have published a map of domestic violence offenders.

Nothing gets a guy to behave more than the prospect of never getting laid again unless he gets his shiat together.


CSB time. When I was a few years younger, I didn't know what the fark to do with myself, and ended up drifting into a job on a roofing crew. There was this one job that was just down the street from a battered women's shelter. Took about a week. Every morning, they took the clients out for a morning constitutional. We were big men, tattoo-encrusted, unshaven, covered in filth, and chronically pissed-off. Those chicks were soooo happy to see us... Trust me, there are women out there actually looking to get beat. I guess they just don't know anything else. It's one more way I will disappoint them, I suppose.
 
2012-12-27 07:47:24 AM

KeelingLovesCornholes: The My Little Pony Killer: On a different note, is now a good time to start talking about the state of mental health care in this country, or are we still dead set on the whole 'gun' thing?

^Totally this. Don't give me an assault weapons ban bill without one to make it easier for health professionals to put the mentally ill on a list to prevent gun ownership.


Considering most of the things we're still trying to leverage our economy on were built by batsh*t nuts, hubris addled sociopaths with money and guns, this might not fare well for the GDP. : )
 
2012-12-27 07:48:03 AM
Wow, what a terrible thing to do to these fine, upstanding journalists. They may feel frightened and defenseless, exposed to this cruel and crazy world, especially if they live in a bad neighborhood. Too bad there's no way to proactively prepare to defend oneself from life's seedier elements.
 
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