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2012-12-26 07:19:00 PM  
Thank you, hobbyists, for keeping our toilets safe.
 
2012-12-26 07:41:23 PM  
It was probably a cop that left it there in the first place. Every time I hear about a gun left in a bathroom it has always been a LEO that left it there, whether on duty or off. CCW holders are much more careful about that kind of thing.
 
2012-12-26 07:44:20 PM  

iq_in_binary: It was probably a cop that left it there in the first place. Every time I hear about a gun left in a bathroom it has always been a LEO that left it there, whether on duty or off. CCW holders are much more careful about that kind of thing.


http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ore-man-who-left-gun-under-seat-h as -permit-revoked--184366711.html

Gary Quackenbush, 40 years a gun owner, was stuck in a stiff, unforgiving theater seat. The movie he paid to watch was running three hours. It was long, boring and left him miserable.
Quackenbush says he spent much of the "The Hobbit" wriggling, trying to get comfortable. At some point, his pistol fell out of his holster.
The semiautomatic was loaded. According to police, its safety was off, and there was a round in the chamber.
Quackenbush says he didn't notice the empty holster until he was nearly home Tuesday. He tried calling the Tillamook movie theater, but no one answered. And when he arrived Wednesday to retrieve his weapon, he found some shocked middle school kids, a gaggle of press and a police officer.
A seventh-grader had found the loaded weapon under a theater seat and notified adults.

...

A sheriff's deputy drove to Quackenbush's home Thursday and took his concealed weapons permit. Quackenbush can reapply for a concealed weapons permit as long as no criminal charges are pending, Long said.
 
2012-12-26 07:46:34 PM  

keithgabryelski: iq_in_binary: It was probably a cop that left it there in the first place. Every time I hear about a gun left in a bathroom it has always been a LEO that left it there, whether on duty or off. CCW holders are much more careful about that kind of thing.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ore-man-who-left-gun-under-seat-h as -permit-revoked--184366711.html

Gary Quackenbush


So that's why those theater floors are so sticky.
 
2012-12-26 07:57:59 PM  

keithgabryelski: Quackenbush says he spent much of the "The Hobbit" wriggling, trying to get comfortable. At some point, his pistol fell out of his holster.


No doubt some nylon sausage sack of a holster.

Look, people, if you're going to carry get some decent gear.  You spent at least $300-$500 on the pistol.  Spend another $50-$80 on a good belt and the same amount on a good holster.  Hint: leather and Kydex are your friends.

I've got a hand made leather rig from HBE that cost me maybe $60.  I have actually slept ON TOP of my pistol in that rig before without any discomfort.  Long road trip, went to sleep in a rest area inside my car.  Kept the gun on for fairly obvious reasons.
 
2012-12-26 07:58:29 PM  

keithgabryelski: iq_in_binary: It was probably a cop that left it there in the first place. Every time I hear about a gun left in a bathroom it has always been a LEO that left it there, whether on duty or off. CCW holders are much more careful about that kind of thing.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ore-man-who-left-gun-under-seat-h as -permit-revoked--184366711.html

Gary Quackenbush, 40 years a gun owner, was stuck in a stiff, unforgiving theater seat. The movie he paid to watch was running three hours. It was long, boring and left him miserable.
Quackenbush says he spent much of the "The Hobbit" wriggling, trying to get comfortable. At some point, his pistol fell out of his holster.
The semiautomatic was loaded. According to police, its safety was off, and there was a round in the chamber.
Quackenbush says he didn't notice the empty holster until he was nearly home Tuesday. He tried calling the Tillamook movie theater, but no one answered. And when he arrived Wednesday to retrieve his weapon, he found some shocked middle school kids, a gaggle of press and a police officer.
A seventh-grader had found the loaded weapon under a theater seat and notified adults.

...

A sheriff's deputy drove to Quackenbush's home Thursday and took his concealed weapons permit. Quackenbush can reapply for a concealed weapons permit as long as no criminal charges are pending, Long said.


He paced the floor all night and instead of calling law enforcement showed up at the theater expecting to get the weapon out of lost and found. Some 7th graders found it instead.

And this won't affect his gun DEALER'S license.
 
2012-12-26 08:04:55 PM  
 
2012-12-26 08:21:43 PM  
LL Bean isn't expensive
 
2012-12-26 08:27:33 PM  

iq_in_binary: http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/10/cops_gun_stolen_from_hoover_ba.ht m l

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009273/Keystone-cop-Officer -l eaves-loaded-rifle-boot-patrol-car--drives-away-gun-STILL-there.html

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Child-reportedly-hurt-in-Stanwood-sh oo ting-142211265.html

Every instance of a neglectful CCW I can provide plenty more of cops being even more neglectful. A lot of them are still cops, even. That CCW holder you pointed out had his CCW revoked.


I actually believed you -- i just found it interesting because CCW gun drop happened last week.
 
2012-12-26 08:41:35 PM  

SnakeLee: LL Bean isn't expensive




Yeah, L.L. bean would just give the gun an overly adventurous sound name.

9mm shartmaker.
 
2012-12-26 08:44:49 PM  
abandoned suicide
 
2012-12-26 09:44:34 PM  
If you are smart with your kids about guns, not much worry about them finding one. My 3 & 5 year old know two rules if they see a gun. #1: Don't touch it. #2: Tell mom or dad (or an adult).
 
2012-12-26 09:44:51 PM  
As a pro 2nd amendment gun owner, I would hope that if you leave your loaded gun in a LL Bean fitting room, at the very least you would lose your CCW permit. As well as reckless endangerment charges.
 
2012-12-26 09:46:42 PM  
To Bean?
 
2012-12-26 09:49:00 PM  
Hey look, no kids got it and shot their friends in the face or anything.
 
2012-12-26 09:49:00 PM  

keithgabryelski: iq_in_binary: It was probably a cop that left it there in the first place. Every time I hear about a gun left in a bathroom it has always been a LEO that left it there, whether on duty or off. CCW holders are much more careful about that kind of thing.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Ore-man-who-left-gun-under-seat-h as -permit-revoked--184366711.html

Gary Quackenbush, 40 years a gun owner, was stuck in a stiff, unforgiving theater seat. The movie he paid to watch was running three hours. It was long, boring and left him miserable.
Quackenbush says he spent much of the "The Hobbit" wriggling, trying to get comfortable. At some point, his pistol fell out of his holster.
The semiautomatic was loaded. According to police, its safety was off, and there was a round in the chamber.
Quackenbush says he didn't notice the empty holster until he was nearly home Tuesday. He tried calling the Tillamook movie theater, but no one answered. And when he arrived Wednesday to retrieve his weapon, he found some shocked middle school kids, a gaggle of press and a police officer.
A seventh-grader had found the loaded weapon under a theater seat and notified adults.

...

A sheriff's deputy drove to Quackenbush's home Thursday and took his concealed weapons permit. Quackenbush can reapply for a concealed weapons permit as long as no criminal charges are pending, Long said.


God damn it's farking frightening to think of some Barney Fyfe yokel idiot sitting in front of me in the theatre with a loaded firearm on his waist. Good lord.
 
2012-12-26 09:49:59 PM  
"If they have a concealed carry permit, they obviously have a right to carry the gun," DeLeo said. "But when you leave it in the restroom available to the public, I mean, a child could have gone in there and found it."

Contender for Most Retarded Sentence Spoken By A Law Enforcement Officer 2012.
 
2012-12-26 09:51:30 PM  
it may be expensive, but it is probably made in the US, with pride and all that stuff. Either way, anything from LLBean can be sent back with no questions asked, and it will be fixed or replaced. Shame they stopped that refurbished sale up in Vermont for EMS stuff, after that girl got trampled. What, exactly, is a 5 year old doing in line to what is essentially a marathon start? Anyone who has done track and field knows the long distance starts are a little push and shove. A marathon is an order of magnitude worse. And a sale for fitness/climbing/outdoorsy equipment? Massacre at the start.

/tangent
//gun would have been put on sale for reasonably high price due to the fact that when you run out of bullets, all you have to do is send it in and they'll send it back with a full mag.
 
2012-12-26 09:51:59 PM  

BSABSVR: SnakeLee: LL Bean isn't expensive

Yeah, L.L. bean would just give the gun an overly adventurous sound name.

9mm shartmaker.


Now, Eddie Bauer, on the other hand...

Ah, yes, the Eddie Bauer Signature Edition Rossignol BC 90 "Backcountry" BC X6 9mm pistol, featuring a stable, rugged engraved teak wood grip, genuine English Oak trigger, Positrack sight system with leather accents, and free caribiner with purchase of two at $20 off the set. $2 mail-in rebate for 100 rounds of our finest, "Eddie Bauer" embossed diamond-series ammunition, a $97 value, yours for a mere $95 plus $20 shipping and processing.

Eddie Bauer, because you could spend less on the same crap, but why go through all the trouble?
 
2012-12-26 09:52:59 PM  

jbuist: Kept the gun on for fairly obvious reasons.


Paranoia?

I like living in a place where I don't need to carry a firearm to feel safe.

Also, FTA:

The chief said police hope the gun's owner comes forward to claim his firearm, but said the man or woman may face a charge of reckless conduct.

Way to encourage him/her, brah.
 
2012-12-26 09:54:16 PM  
FTA: The chief said police hope the gun's owner comes forward to claim his firearm, but said the man or woman may face a charge of reckless conduct.

The police can run the VIN of any car and within a minute find out who the owner is. But an object designed to kill? Nope.
 
2012-12-26 09:54:57 PM  

iron de havilland: jbuist: Kept the gun on for fairly obvious reasons.

Paranoia?

I like living in a place where I don't need to carry a firearm to feel safe.

Also, FTA:

The chief said police hope the gun's owner comes forward to claim his firearm, but said the man or woman may face a charge of reckless conduct.

Way to encourage him/her, brah.


Second point: We already live there, man.
 
2012-12-26 09:59:04 PM  
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Very expensive.
 
2012-12-26 10:01:41 PM  
iq_in_binary

It's funny you should say that, because at the restaurant I was working in a few months we had a police officer leave his fully loaded service pistol on the back of a toilet seat and not remember until an hour and a half later when we had already turned it in to the Portage police (Michigan).
 
2012-12-26 10:03:16 PM  

Witty Comment: iq_in_binary

It's funny you should say that, because at the restaurant I was working in a few months we had a police officer leave his fully loaded service pistol on the back of a toilet seat and not remember until an hour and a half later when we had already turned it in to the Portage police (Michigan).


Oo, I'd love to have been in the office when that guy walked back in...
 
2012-12-26 10:05:01 PM  
"Now, this is a rugged, dependable handgun made for the outdoorsman who appreciates a good sidearm. The 9mm Parabellum ammunition is uses is easilly replaceable at almost any sporting goods outlet. Grips are available in different colors and for the discriminating buyer, hand-chequered walnut grips, individually carved by Our Craftspeople in China, are avalable."
 
2012-12-26 10:06:00 PM  
Still have a coat from one of those sales. more than 10 years later and I still can't figure out why the original owners sent it back. Longest-lasting coat I've ever bought for a measly $5(puffy winter coat, warmest I've bought, too).

Have my eye on a H&K MP5 on sale at a place near where I work. Wanted to restart my collection with a handgun, but the nearest place is selling handguns for more than the MP5 due to the fervor over the shootings. You'd think it would be the ammunition going up, not the guns(and not guns which play no part in shootings where the offending weapon is an "assault type") but who am I to try and figure out policy? Current laws being proposed have been proposed before for the mentally ill, and have been passed, but not funded.
Politicians doing something: passing laws, but not funding the programs the laws require. Watch them reference their part in getting the laws passed come election time. Just watch.

/gah
//45 cal 1911 will be my first hand gun, should I find one at the right price
///or a sig, whichever
 
2012-12-26 10:09:56 PM  
If I found a gun under these circumstances the first thing I would do is unload it. Wondering who made the observation re the bullet in the chamber, someone who knew how to unload it or someone peering down the barrel to see?

Also, kangaroocarry, if you don't want to be noticed and DONT WANT TO DROP YOUR GUN IN THE CAN. or the movie theatre. I prefer the standard ii.
 
2012-12-26 10:14:39 PM  
DoctorOfLove: If I found a gun under these circumstances the first thing I would do is unload it.

I'm sure investigators would just love for you to handle a random weapon
 
2012-12-26 10:19:18 PM  

DoctorOfLove: Also, kangaroocarry, if you don't want to be noticed and DONT WANT TO DROP YOUR GUN IN THE CAN. or the movie theatre. I prefer the standard ii.


How does that feel? It looks kind of uncomfortable.
 
2012-12-26 10:19:32 PM  

ultraholland: DoctorOfLove: If I found a gun under these circumstances the first thing I would do is unload it.

I'm sure investigators would just love for you to handle a random weapon


As opposed to leaving a potentially loaded gun in a public bathroom?
 
2012-12-26 10:23:40 PM  

iron de havilland: jbuist: Kept the gun on for fairly obvious reasons.

Paranoia?

I like living in a place where I don't need to carry a firearm to feel safe.



I don't have that choice, with what little I get for take home; yay HUD housing. Guy was murdered outside my building last year in a drug deal gone bad. Everyone knew he was a drug dealer, so aside from his family, no one really cared about another dealer in the gutter with a few holes. 2 months ago some dude was making a buy across the street from my apartment and tried to stiff the dealer. Yeah, he's explaining to St. Peter why he should be getting into heaven and not roasting. I think it will work as well as did his glibness with his dealer. That said, I have little doubt that someone who has gotten all the way to my door will not listen to reason when I tell them I have a gun, and it is pointed at them through the door. Should they really want my TV and stuff, they'll have to get past the deadbolt, the latch thingy, and the lock on the door handle. Past all that, if the cops(2 blocks away) aren't there, I'd feel free to let loose with a few rounds.

/ITG, whatever
//ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?
 
2012-12-26 10:24:00 PM  
"He said the gun was a 9mm Walther pistol, loaded with one bullet in the chamber."


Thank god there was only one, shiat gets messy when you cram two in there.

Trance354:

/gah
//45 cal 1911 will be my first hand gun, should I find one at the right price
///or a sig, whichever



Rock Island Armory makes fine entry level (inexpensive) 1911s, made in the Philippines with a lifetime warranty; they have a service center in Pahrump, NV with pretty good turnaround time if you ever need to send one in.
 
2012-12-26 10:24:57 PM  

CruiserTwelve: DoctorOfLove: Also, kangaroocarry, if you don't want to be noticed and DONT WANT TO DROP YOUR GUN IN THE CAN. or the movie theatre. I prefer the standard ii.

How does that feel? It looks kind of uncomfortable.


Certainly more noticeable than wearing than a belt holster, but the advantages are it is basically invisible (which I think is a crucial advantage - fellow got arrested in CT last year because another patron in the restaurant noticed he had a gun in a holster, but street clothes, and called the cops from the restaurant and told the cops a mass shooting was under way, more or less - and open carry is legal in CT - charges were dropped), you can carry a big gun (S&W Sigma 9mm with a laser) and you can't lose the gun in a movie theater or the can.
 
2012-12-26 10:30:52 PM  
If I found a loaded gun in a restroom, I'd probably keep it. I know this is against the law, but the temptation would be too much for me to resist.
 
2012-12-26 10:33:29 PM  

Atomic Spunk: If I found a loaded gun in a restroom, I'd probably keep it. I know this is against the law, but the temptation would be too much for me to resist.


*Secretly: Me too, m8. ;)
 
2012-12-26 10:35:11 PM  
I have found this to be a comfortable and accessible holster. As I am a cyclist, it also stores spare light batteries and a hex key useful for on the road brake adjustments.

It is not something that I would consider removing when out in public.
 
2012-12-26 10:36:46 PM  
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Is upset by the lack of respect in this thread.
 
2012-12-26 10:37:55 PM  

Trance354: Still have a coat from one of those sales. more than 10 years later and I still can't figure out why the original owners sent it back. Longest-lasting coat I've ever bought for a measly $5(puffy winter coat, warmest I've bought, too).

Have my eye on a H&K MP5 on sale at a place near where I work. Wanted to restart my collection with a handgun, but the nearest place is selling handguns for more than the MP5 due to the fervor over the shootings. You'd think it would be the ammunition going up, not the guns(and not guns which play no part in shootings where the offending weapon is an "assault type") but who am I to try and figure out policy? Current laws being proposed have been proposed before for the mentally ill, and have been passed, but not funded.
Politicians doing something: passing laws, but not funding the programs the laws require. Watch them reference their part in getting the laws passed come election time. Just watch.

/gah
//45 cal 1911 will be my first hand gun, should I find one at the right price
///or a sig, whichever


I love Colts and hear good things about Kimber, but Auto Ordnance is a great value if you don't need lotsa bells and whistles.
 
2012-12-26 10:39:23 PM  
I love LL Bean! In fact, I'm wearing a festive red, gray, and green tartan flannel even as we speak.

\end{tangent}
 
2012-12-26 10:39:31 PM  

DoctorOfLove: ultraholland: DoctorOfLove: If I found a gun under these circumstances the first thing I would do is unload it.

I'm sure investigators would just love for you to handle a random weapon

As opposed to leaving a potentially loaded gun in a public bathroom?


Report it, yes, of course. But handle it? It might be evidence in a crime. Abandoned guns are not to be trusted (or handled) unless absolutely necessary, in my opinion.
 
2012-12-26 10:45:17 PM  
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Deliver me from L.L. Bean.
 
2012-12-26 10:48:36 PM  

Dimensio: I have found this to be a comfortable and accessible holster. As I am a cyclist, it also stores spare light batteries and a hex key useful for on the road brake adjustments.

It is not something that I would consider removing when out in public.


Interesting for running.
 
2012-12-26 10:48:41 PM  

SnakeLee: LL Bean isn't expensive


Plus, their American-made goods are top notch. I have a pair of duck boots that are older than I am...and they're in near perfect condition. They'll outlive me.

If you care about quality, you'll pay a tad more. I have two LL Bean corduroy jackets that I love; they're high-quality items. Yeah, they cost more than anything cheap that Old Navy has ever produced, but Old Navy doesn't come close to meeting LL Bean's quality.
 
2012-12-26 10:58:05 PM  
Rhinoguy's premise about guns: There is no such thing as an unloaded gun.
 
2012-12-26 10:58:11 PM  

DoctorOfLove: Dimensio: I have found this to be a comfortable and accessible holster. As I am a cyclist, it also stores spare light batteries and a hex key useful for on the road brake adjustments.

It is not something that I would consider removing when out in public.

Interesting for running.


I purchased the holster due to my previous belt holster causing either my shirts to ride up to expose the firearm or my gun to wear holes in my shirts.
 
2012-12-26 11:02:20 PM  
wish i'd found it first
 
2012-12-26 11:05:05 PM  

John Buck 41: Trance354: Still have a coat from one of those sales. more than 10 years later and I still can't figure out why the original owners sent it back. Longest-lasting coat I've ever bought for a measly $5(puffy winter coat, warmest I've bought, too).

Have my eye on a H&K MP5 on sale at a place near where I work. Wanted to restart my collection with a handgun, but the nearest place is selling handguns for more than the MP5 due to the fervor over the shootings. You'd think it would be the ammunition going up, not the guns(and not guns which play no part in shootings where the offending weapon is an "assault type") but who am I to try and figure out policy? Current laws being proposed have been proposed before for the mentally ill, and have been passed, but not funded.
Politicians doing something: passing laws, but not funding the programs the laws require. Watch them reference their part in getting the laws passed come election time. Just watch.

/gah
//45 cal 1911 will be my first hand gun, should I find one at the right price
///or a sig, whichever

I love Colts and hear good things about Kimber, but Auto Ordnance is a great value if you don't need lotsa bells and whistles.


show me a Colt 1911 with bells and whistles, and I'll show you an enthusiast will too much time and money. Better to put that money towards another piece, not change the ones you have. Unless you are a gunsmith making something from scratch, of course. Local gun shop has a 1911 for way too much, but it would be more had the owner not modified the gun with new sights. Nickel plating didn't fare the "improvement" process too well.

/*cringe*
//it was aready nickel plated, how much more perfect do you need?
 
2012-12-26 11:09:40 PM  
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
 
2012-12-26 11:17:30 PM  
If you like the 1911 style... try out an XDM... same basic shooting style and grip safety of the 1911 with some of the nicer features of more modern style guns.
 
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