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(Popular Mechanics)   Why your phone needs antivirus software... unless you're still using a rotary phone, which is a whole other set of problems right there   (popularmechanics.com) divider line 83
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2012-12-26 06:32:56 PM  
Damn straight. Nobody updates the operating system on those, and you can't find any apps worth having.
 
2012-12-26 06:35:31 PM  
Mine doesn't.

:smug smile:
 
2012-12-26 07:53:44 PM  
I doubt mine does since it's a non-smart phone.
 
2012-12-26 08:49:14 PM  
Nokia flip phone checking in
 
2012-12-26 09:51:45 PM  
My iPad doesn't need it.

Apple can't get viruses.
 
2012-12-26 10:25:41 PM  
I've got Norton running on my Galaxy.
 
2012-12-26 11:27:09 PM  
unless you spend so much time vetting each app you install that you're completely confident it's legitimate and virus-free

You know who spends so much time vetting every app I install that I'm completely confidant it's legitimate and virus-free? Apple, that's who.
 
2012-12-27 01:11:57 AM  
This is what I use.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-27 01:13:49 AM  
I would actually really like to have an old timey rotary phone.
 
2012-12-27 01:15:01 AM  
"nvmac

My iPad doesn't need it.

Apple can't get viruses."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!.................................... . .............no.
 
2012-12-27 01:16:16 AM  

serial_crusher: unless you spend so much time vetting each app you install that you're completely confident it's legitimate and virus-free

You know who spends so much time vetting every app I install that I'm completely confidant it's legitimate and virus-free? Apple, that's who.


They used to say that about Macs...
 
2012-12-27 01:25:13 AM  

serial_crusher: unless you spend so much time vetting each app you install that you're completely confident it's legitimate and virus-free

You know who spends so much time vetting every app I install that I'm completely confidant it's legitimate and virus-free? Apple, that's who.


And this is why Apple's app store is a tenth of the size of Google Play.

Also, I have some serious doubts about just how many viruses are actually out there and how easy they are to get. All of these apps come with a comments and rating system. If it comes with a virus, it's going to to advertised well before you download it. Viruses are also highly illegal, so if you're passing an app as a virus, then your name is going to be all over it.

Finally, a pet peeve:

There are two primary types of Android viruses: Trojans, which send SMS messages to premium numbers, and spyware, which sends information-contacts, for instance-from the phone to the spyware's developer.

Sorry, but nether of these are "viruses". Viruses copy themselves and infect other devices. At best, these are collectively "malware".
 
2012-12-27 01:31:57 AM  

Snargi: serial_crusher: unless you spend so much time vetting each app you install that you're completely confident it's legitimate and virus-free

You know who spends so much time vetting every app I install that I'm completely confidant it's legitimate and virus-free? Apple, that's who.

They used to say that about Macs...


Actually what they always said was "Nobody writes viruses for Macs." I was there. It's what people who know tech said.

The only people who say "Macs don't get viruses." are people who don't understand the how and why of viruses.
 
2012-12-27 01:34:11 AM  

blue_2501: serial_crusher: unless you spend so much time vetting each app you install that you're completely confident it's legitimate and virus-free

You know who spends so much time vetting every app I install that I'm completely confidant it's legitimate and virus-free? Apple, that's who.

And this is why Apple's app store is a tenth of the size of Google Play.

Also, I have some serious doubts about just how many viruses are actually out there and how easy they are to get. All of these apps come with a comments and rating system. If it comes with a virus, it's going to to advertised well before you download it. Viruses are also highly illegal, so if you're passing an app as a virus, then your name is going to be all over it.

Finally, a pet peeve:

There are two primary types of Android viruses: Trojans, which send SMS messages to premium numbers, and spyware, which sends information-contacts, for instance-from the phone to the spyware's developer.

Sorry, but nether of these are "viruses". Viruses copy themselves and infect other devices. At best, these are collectively "malware".


1/10 this size my ass.

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/12/21/app-store-vs-google-play/

This isn't an Apple troll, but th Google Play store has neither the amount of phone and tablet apps as the App Store, nor makes anywhere near as much money.

There are *plenty* of real reasons to mock Apple without resorting to inventing things
 
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2012-12-27 01:35:13 AM  

serial_crusher: You know who spends so much time vetting every app I install that I'm completely confidant it's legitimate and virus-free? Apple, that's who.


That's why Apple didn't notice that a flashlight app was allowing users to tether their phones until it hit the news.
 
2012-12-27 01:36:59 AM  
Malware has existed on both platforms, but I don't think there has been a single actual virus on the iOS platform. That's not to say there couldn't be, but there are some advantages to the "walled garden" approach. Though many will point out that a fair amount of Android malware is from side loaded apps.

Common sense is what is needed.
 
2012-12-27 01:37:05 AM  
Feeling just a little smug with my GoPhone and my Kindle Fire.
 
2012-12-27 02:09:31 AM  
Aging LG Tracfone, checking in..
 
2012-12-27 02:11:55 AM  

OriginalGamer: Malware has existed on both platforms, but I don't think there has been a single actual virus on the iOS platform. That's not to say there couldn't be, but there are some advantages to the "walled garden" approach. Though many will point out that a fair amount of Android malware is from side loaded apps.


Absolutely. As an Apple critic, I'm way more than willing to concede that Android is more open to malware, but you have to admit that with android you would have to go out of your way install something malicious.
 
2012-12-27 02:15:24 AM  

FlippityFlap: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!.................................... . .............no.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha yes

Apple cannot get viruses because of the mother hardware

The virus cannot recognize the retina display

I hope this expanation is clear

Posted from my iPad
 
2012-12-27 02:23:16 AM  

blue_2501: serial_crusher: unless you spend so much time vetting each app you install that you're completely confident it's legitimate and virus-free

You know who spends so much time vetting every app I install that I'm completely confidant it's legitimate and virus-free? Apple, that's who.

And this is why Apple's app store is a tenth of the size of Google Play.

Also, I have some serious doubts about just how many viruses are actually out there and how easy they are to get. All of these apps come with a comments and rating system. If it comes with a virus, it's going to to advertised well before you download it. Viruses are also highly illegal, so if you're passing an app as a virus, then your name is going to be all over it.

Finally, a pet peeve:

There are two primary types of Android viruses: Trojans, which send SMS messages to premium numbers, and spyware, which sends information-contacts, for instance-from the phone to the spyware's developer.

Sorry, but nether of these are "viruses". Viruses copy themselves and infect other devices. At best, these are collectively "malware".


Fred Cohen called. He said you should pull your head out of your fourth point of contact.

/Fred drives Macs.
//Ya, really.
 
2012-12-27 02:24:56 AM  
My flip-phone doesn't get viruses because of this virus-defeating rock I got.
 
2012-12-27 02:25:51 AM  
 
2012-12-27 02:30:29 AM  

jonny_q: OriginalGamer: Malware has existed on both platforms, but I don't think there has been a single actual virus on the iOS platform. That's not to say there couldn't be, but there are some advantages to the "walled garden" approach. Though many will point out that a fair amount of Android malware is from side loaded apps.

Absolutely. As an Apple critic, I'm way more than willing to concede that Android is more open to malware, but you have to admit that with android you would have to go out of your way install something malicious.


Common sense is definitely what is needed more than anything. I think the problem is a decent amount of people using the Android side loading feature are doing it for piracy, and then hitting up sketchy Chinese or Russian APK sites.
 
2012-12-27 02:43:37 AM  
My phone is such a slut.
 
2012-12-27 02:55:31 AM  
Nobody should say Apple's OS can't get malware but there are so few incidents that when a new one appears, it's actually news, and Apple will issue a fix themselves. It's almost like herd immunity. Outbreaks are so rare and isolated they get stamped out before they amount to anything.

"Apple can't get viruses" is certainly not true, but at this point nearly all users have an experience that's the same as if it was true.
 
2012-12-27 03:23:36 AM  
If your OS is prone to malware - perhaps you need a new OS?

/really - Windows 8, OS X, iOS are all pretty safe OSs these days
//notice I didn't say android
 
2012-12-27 03:23:43 AM  
IT MAKES CALLS, IT RECIEVES CALLS, AND I CAN CLOCK A BURGLAR WITH IT.

Leave my goddamn rotary alone!
 
2012-12-27 03:43:48 AM  
About using common sense, I've seen advertisements for "home security systems" that you can control from your phone, including locking your front door remotely just in case you weren't sure you really did when you left.

It's not a virus, but such a thing had better be secure, otherwise in theory the potential exists for someone to unlock your door and disable the alarm.
 
2012-12-27 03:50:58 AM  
gingerjet: If your OS is prone to malware

A trojan is a trojan, and nothing in the world is going to prevent a stupid user from running that trojan.

Ohh look, I downloaded somecoolapp.exe from the web, but it's requesting admin privileges, well, I want to see what it does, better grant it.

//why write a virus to circumvent protections and automatically copy itself when you can get stupid users to do it for you?

// hell, it could be as simple as getting neophyte linux users to type rm -r / in a terminal
 
2012-12-27 03:56:49 AM  
The virus on any smartphone is the meatbag installing "free" apps.
 
2012-12-27 04:02:35 AM  

doglover: Snargi: serial_crusher: unless you spend so much time vetting each app you install that you're completely confident it's legitimate and virus-free

You know who spends so much time vetting every app I install that I'm completely confidant it's legitimate and virus-free? Apple, that's who.

They used to say that about Macs...

Actually what they always said was "Nobody writes viruses for Macs." I was there. It's what people who know tech said.

The only people who say "Macs don't get viruses." are people who don't understand the how and why of viruses.


^ one more reason why i love doglover. excellence in posting is rare. +1
 
2012-12-27 04:21:21 AM  

Ed Finnerty: The virus on any smartphone is the meatbag installing "free" apps.


^ So much this. The malware people want to make money, not spend money writing complex viruses. It's much easier just to trick your average user into installing the malware themselves.
 
2012-12-27 04:28:56 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: Mine doesn't.

:smug smile:


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-27 05:21:00 AM  

Notabunny: Gecko Gingrich: Mine doesn't.

:smug smile:

[img.photobucket.com image 500x384]


Influenza, Newcastle's, West Nile, EEE, WEE, Infectious bronchitis, Avian Pox
 
2012-12-27 06:00:27 AM  
WP8
 
2012-12-27 06:38:07 AM  
Example of an infected smartphone:

p.twimg.com
 
2012-12-27 06:45:02 AM  
What a rotary mobile phone might look like. Notice the well polished design....

www.benjaminkanarekblog.com
 
2012-12-27 07:07:15 AM  
lookout
 
2012-12-27 08:03:19 AM  
My one is once had a virus but a Z-pack knocked it out.
 
2012-12-27 08:19:04 AM  
 
2012-12-27 08:23:15 AM  
If you need antivirus for a walled garden device, you need a better device.
 
2012-12-27 08:42:53 AM  

Ceiling Moran: Example of an infected smartphone:

[p.twimg.com image 600x800]


Infected by Love and Tolerance.

This thread could use more of it.
 
2012-12-27 08:55:54 AM  
I have an iphone subtard
 
2012-12-27 09:05:34 AM  

The Man Who Laughs: I would actually really like to have an old timey rotary phone.


Here you go:

"Portable" Rotary Phone, just add SIM card.
 
2012-12-27 09:11:27 AM  
Good thing I still use a BlackBerry
 
2012-12-27 09:13:51 AM  
I enjoyed the old rotary phones. Especially with phone numbers that contained plenty of 9s.

My phone did have a virus. Tends to happen when you use an old pay phone as your own.
 
2012-12-27 09:27:56 AM  
The only way my phone can get a virus is that if I lend it to someone who is sick with flu.
 
2012-12-27 09:32:42 AM  
Remember, if you are one of the smaller percentage of people using an iPhone, you are a follower.

That is all.
 
2012-12-27 09:35:58 AM  

Great Janitor: I enjoyed the old rotary phones. Especially with phone numbers that contained plenty of 9s.

My phone did have a virus. Tends to happen when you use an old pay phone as your own.


Or plenty of zeroes!

(Fun fact: Area code assignment in the 1960s was based on number of clicks on a rotary phone, combined (approximately) with the city's importance or population. Thus New York was 5 clicks (212), LA and Chicago were 6 clicks (213, 312), Pittsburgh, Dallas, and Detroit were 7 clicks (412, 214, 313), etc. Less populous areas were assigned the area codes with a 0 in the middle, as 0 was 10 clicks. TMYK.)
 
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