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(Slicing Up Eyeballs)   My Bloody Valentine, who haven't released a proper album since 1991's Loveless, make their fans' Christmas by announcing they've just finished mastering their new album, which will hit stores in a matter of weeks   (slicingupeyeballs.com) divider line 66
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2012-12-26 08:14:19 PM
Cool indeed. I've been looking for new music to accompany some intense footwear examination.
 
2012-12-26 08:29:35 PM
21 years?  Who do they think they are, Guns n Roses?  Boston?
 
2012-12-26 08:34:21 PM
I'll believe it when I hear it.
 
2012-12-26 08:37:19 PM
Who?
 
2012-12-26 09:00:36 PM
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-26 09:06:25 PM
This is one of those bands I've always felt I should give a shiat about, but never did.
 
2012-12-27 03:42:21 AM
Loveless is a masterpiece of the genre. Somehow I don't think the follow up is going to be as great.
 
2012-12-27 04:33:53 AM
I can't decide if I'm excited or scared about this.
 
2012-12-27 05:29:59 AM
At least MBV was one of the few English shoegaze bands that actually delivered. I still can't believe people get hyped up for anything Stone Roses.
 
2012-12-27 05:42:30 AM

doglover: Who?

 
2012-12-27 06:03:10 AM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: At least MBV was one of the few English shoegaze bands that actually delivered. I still can't believe people get hyped up for anything Stone Roses.


Yeah, I've always thought Stone Roses were Fool's Gold.
 
2012-12-27 06:47:51 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-27 06:51:09 AM

Fett56: Loveless is a masterpiece of the genre. Somehow I don't think the follow up is going to be as great.


I have a feeling sheer hype might crush the album and anyone not already familiar with MBV will probably wonder what the hell all the hype is about. Otherwise I'm confident that it will be a great album, though.


LandStander: I'll believe it when I hear it.


eh, a forum I go to has quite a few people who have ties to the band (directly and indirectly) who all seem to confirm one another's claims, so I'm willing to bet something will happen by March at the latest.


SockMonkeyHolocaust: At least MBV was one of the few English shoegaze bands that actually delivered. I still can't believe people get hyped up for anything Stone Roses.


Stone Roses weren't shoegaze, though. But yeah, I don't quite get how anyone is excited for a reunion from them, even if they were huge back in their day.
 
2012-12-27 08:13:36 AM
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fusillade762: Cool indeed. I've been looking for new music to accompany some intense footwear examination.


Here's something with flames. :-P
 
2012-12-27 08:24:17 AM
Cool. Looking forward to it.

But I always liked Lush better.

/Split will always be my favorite shoegaze album.
 
2012-12-27 08:30:03 AM
Do people honestly still care so much about "albums"? I just can't fathom being excited about something like that. Even thinking of my favorite bands of all time... how does one actually feel excitement because they're filling a disc with 12 songs?
 
2012-12-27 08:38:55 AM
I thought NME ended this noise 20 years ago?
 
2012-12-27 09:08:55 AM

sure haven't: Do people honestly still care so much about "albums"? I just can't fathom being excited about something like that. Even thinking of my favorite bands of all time... how does one actually feel excitement because they're filling a disc with 12 songs?


Yes.
Sorry you got old at heart.
 
2012-12-27 09:18:02 AM
Think you ought to move that apostrophe to the left, Subby.
 
2012-12-27 09:40:29 AM

doglover: Who?

 
2012-12-27 09:51:35 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: sure haven't: Do people honestly still care so much about "albums"? I just can't fathom being excited about something like that. Even thinking of my favorite bands of all time... how does one actually feel excitement because they're filling a disc with 12 songs?

Yes.
Sorry you got old at heart.


I think alot of listeners have gotten lazy over the years.  To me, there is something cool about the way an artist/band puts the thought into the way a suite of songs flows.  I like the 'ride' some albums give.  And if it has a concept, well, that makes it even better.
 
2012-12-27 10:13:19 AM
Eh, I can't be bothered to give a sh*t anymore, frankly. I would've been excited about this news years ago, but now...after all this time, I think it would've been better to just do the reunion tour and close up shop. There is no way that this album isn't a disappointment.

Say what you want about MBV and shoegaze in general, but I guarantee Loveless is one of a small handful of albums from that era in any genre that people will be talking about as a bona fide masterpiece 100 years from now. It still blows away pretty much every pop/rock album released since, and still sounds like it's from the future. Even all of its hundreds of imitators never captured that sound.

My taste in music has changed pretty drastically since, but Loveless is one of maybe 2 or 3 records I was obsessed over when I was a younger man that stood the test of time for me. And there's no other record I've listened to more consistently in my life.
 
2012-12-27 10:14:04 AM
Do you like My Bloody Valentine? I've been a big MBV fan ever since the release of their1991 album, Loveless. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual.
 
2012-12-27 10:20:07 AM

Fett56: Loveless is a masterpiece of the genre. Somehow I don't think the follow up is going to be as great.


i.imgur.com
...probably agrees.
//not at all obscure
//but I just finished replaying the game and couldn't resist
 
2012-12-27 10:33:57 AM

sure haven't: Do people honestly still care so much about "albums"? I just can't fathom being excited about something like that. Even thinking of my favorite bands of all time... how does one actually feel excitement because they're filling a disc with 12 songs?


i still care, yes. when one of my favorite bands prepares an album for release you'd better believe that I get excited.

got excited for these last year

www.angrymetalguy.com

hasitleaked.com

www.rawkblog.net

currently excited about this

web.rcarecords.com

and also Entombed is working on a new record, as is Metallica.
 
2012-12-27 10:55:53 AM

sure haven't: Do people honestly still care so much about "albums"? I just can't fathom being excited about something like that. Even thinking of my favorite bands of all time... how does one actually feel excitement because they're filling a disc with 12 songs?


I know. Mozart and Beethoven should have written 3 minute tunes if they wanted a listen for me.

/but seriously, great music comes in all lengths, i love a great concept album, i love a great 20 minute prog epic
//when i devote myself to music, i usually want to listen to more than 5 minutes
///loves watching sports with good music and muting the annoying announcers
 
2012-12-27 11:07:17 AM
userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2012-12-27 11:37:59 AM

sadbad: Cool. Looking forward to it.

But I always liked Lush better.

/Split will always be my favorite shoegaze album.


Lush is shoegaze?
/I like shoegaze! Who knew?
 
2012-12-27 12:14:17 PM

MagSeven: sadbad: Cool. Looking forward to it.

But I always liked Lush better.

/Split will always be my favorite shoegaze album.

Lush is shoegaze?
/I like shoegaze! Who knew?


Well, their first three albums. That last one is pure britpop.
 
2012-12-27 12:28:03 PM

Fett56: Loveless is a masterpiece of the genre. Somehow I don't think the follow up is going to be as great.


25.media.tumblr.com

/agrees
 
2012-12-27 12:59:26 PM

sadbad: MagSeven: sadbad: Cool. Looking forward to it.

But I always liked Lush better.

/Split will always be my favorite shoegaze album.

Lush is shoegaze?
/I like shoegaze! Who knew?

Well, their first three albums. That last one is pure britpop.


I'd argue that "Split" was possibly more britpop than shoegaze. Still a really good album, though.
 
2012-12-27 01:21:32 PM
Guess I can't get angry with Tool anymore about how long they go between albums, by comparison with this band.

/heard of them
//never heard them
 
2012-12-27 02:13:19 PM
There is a real problem with Shoegazers and their music. It was all fueled by quite a bit of psychedelic consumption, so most likely everyone involved is either burnt out or a jesus freak at this point.

/never got why so many acidheads became jesus freaks, but man do I know a bunch who became super crazy judgmental christians.
 
Skr
2012-12-27 02:53:09 PM
Well this news makes me happy in pants.
 
2012-12-27 04:02:51 PM
www.altpress.com
My niece loves these guys!
 
2012-12-27 06:32:08 PM

sadbad: Cool. Looking forward to it.

But I always liked Lush better.

/Split will always be my favorite shoegaze album.


MBV stomps all over Lush. I thought Lush were one of the least interesting of the original Shoegaze acts, ahead of only Chapterhouse.
 
2012-12-27 07:29:20 PM

sigdiamond2000: There is no way that this album isn't a disappointment.


Unless people are expecting something as monumentally different and influential as Loveless, I see absolutely no reason to believe that. Kevin Shields is a good songwriter (even his throwaway City Girl for Lost In Translation a few years back was cool), and extremely gifted at bringing together disparate sonic elements to form a greater whole. Their reunion tour proved they can still create a beautiful sound, too.

So why would I doubt that he can put together another good record?

I have no reason to believe the record will be anything but enjoyable. Will it reach the lofty heights of Loveless or Isn't Anything? I don't even bother to think that way because doing so is pointless. They don't need to do that for it to be good.
 
2012-12-27 07:35:17 PM

sure haven't: Do people honestly still care so much about "albums"? I just can't fathom being excited about something like that. Even thinking of my favorite bands of all time... how does one actually feel excitement because they're filling a disc with 12 songs?


You can't understand being excited that a musician or act you like will be releasing new material?

What I don't understand are people who do not love music, or who stop loving music as they get older. The whole idea is just kind of alien to me. Music is an essential part of enjoying life, as far as I'm concerned, and that doesn't change just because you got a few gray hairs.
 
2012-12-27 07:35:28 PM
Another great shoegaze band:

www.verbicidemagazine.com
 
2012-12-27 07:50:07 PM

I_Love_Cheesecake: Another great shoegaze band:


Some might say the #2 to MBV's #1 ("some" starting with me).

The other major shoegaze bands of the era varied in quality, some fantastic (Catherine Wheel, Swervedriver) and some clearly riding the coattails of the trend -- I'm looking at you, Chapterhouse and Boo Radleys -- but MBV and Slowdive, those are the two that managed to create a beautiful, dense sound that still holds up today.

You listen to Loveless and Souvlaki and (to some extent) Isn't Anything, they hold up FAR better than other major shoegaze records of the time like Nowhere and Ferment. The latter two are still really good, but in a dated, nostalgic way. To me, Souvlaki and Loveless still sound vital even today.
 
2012-12-27 08:05:01 PM
Shoegazing is one of those genres I really loved but nobody I knew liked.
Anyone else have that same experience?

shoegaze99: sure haven't: Do people honestly still care so much about "albums"? I just can't fathom being excited about something like that. Even thinking of my favorite bands of all time... how does one actually feel excitement because they're filling a disc with 12 songs?

You can't understand being excited that a musician or act you like will be releasing new material?

What I don't understand are people who do not love music, or who stop loving music as they get older. The whole idea is just kind of alien to me. Music is an essential part of enjoying life, as far as I'm concerned, and that doesn't change just because you got a few gray hairs.


Same here.
I may not be able to go to as many shows as I used to (from like 50 a year down to 3-4) or find countless hours to listen to everything I want to but I still put forth the effort to make music a part of my life.

back to My Bloody Valentine. They're one of those bands I liked but never got into. Still it's awesome they're putting out new material and I'm looking forward to checking it out.
 
2012-12-27 08:19:55 PM

shoegaze99: I_Love_Cheesecake: Another great shoegaze band:

Some might say the #2 to MBV's #1 ("some" starting with me).

The other major shoegaze bands of the era varied in quality, some fantastic (Catherine Wheel, Swervedriver) and some clearly riding the coattails of the trend -- I'm looking at you, Chapterhouse and Boo Radleys -- but MBV and Slowdive, those are the two that managed to create a beautiful, dense sound that still holds up today.

You listen to Loveless and Souvlaki and (to some extent) Isn't Anything, they hold up FAR better than other major shoegaze records of the time like Nowhere and Ferment. The latter two are still really good, but in a dated, nostalgic way. To me, Souvlaki and Loveless still sound vital even today.


I think I like Slowdive more than MBV, actually, and would reverse the ranking. Souvlaki still gets listened to by me a few times a year, as do Pygmalion, Just for a Day and Blue Day. (I also love Mojave 3 and Neil Halstead's solo output, as well as Monster Movie.)

I agree that Catherine Wheel can sound a little dated, but do enjoy their music still.
 
2012-12-27 08:33:24 PM

I_Love_Cheesecake: I agree that Catherine Wheel can sound a little dated, but do enjoy their music still.


As do I. I still go back and listen to them far more often than, say, Ride.

Though I do think Catherine Wheel's best record came after their shoegaze period. Adam and Eve was very quietly one of the best records of the year when it came out, and it's still a fantastic, epic piece of work that was sorely overlooked.
 
2012-12-27 09:03:34 PM

shoegaze99: I_Love_Cheesecake: I agree that Catherine Wheel can sound a little dated, but do enjoy their music still.

As do I. I still go back and listen to them far more often than, say, Ride.

Though I do think Catherine Wheel's best record came after their shoegaze period. Adam and Eve was very quietly one of the best records of the year when it came out, and it's still a fantastic, epic piece of work that was sorely overlooked.


I keep trying to listen to Adam & Eve, but nothing really sticks out to me. But I think Ferment is easily one of the best Shoegaze albums, even if it was relatively late to the game.


Medicine's first 2 albums were rereleased earlier this year as well. I actually think they're easily one of the best Shoegaze bands.
 
2012-12-27 09:44:26 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Medicine's first 2 albums were rereleased earlier this year as well. I actually think they're easily one of the best Shoegaze bands.


Any extra material on them (not like I won't be Googling them, anyway)? Because I agree, Medicine was way up near the top. I think they tend to get forgotten because they were American, and decent shoegaze bands didn't start to proliferate in America for another couple of years.
 
2012-12-28 12:54:10 AM

shoegaze99: FeedTheCollapse: Medicine's first 2 albums were rereleased earlier this year as well. I actually think they're easily one of the best Shoegaze bands.

Any extra material on them (not like I won't be Googling them, anyway)? Because I agree, Medicine was way up near the top. I think they tend to get forgotten because they were American, and decent shoegaze bands didn't start to proliferate in America for another couple of years.


There was actually a decent enough scene in the US. Medicine was there, but also lovesliescrushing, Drop Nineteens when they weren't being grunge, Galaxie 500, and the whole noise scene that sort of fit alongside that world like Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, B*A*L*L, maybe Band of Susans, and so on. Were Swirlies from the US too?
 
2012-12-28 05:22:40 AM
The only way to improve MBV:
MBV + Eno
 
2012-12-28 06:47:43 AM

shoegaze99: FeedTheCollapse: Medicine's first 2 albums were rereleased earlier this year as well. I actually think they're easily one of the best Shoegaze bands.

Any extra material on them (not like I won't be Googling them, anyway)? Because I agree, Medicine was way up near the top. I think they tend to get forgotten because they were American, and decent shoegaze bands didn't start to proliferate in America for another couple of years.


yeah, quite a bit of extra material, mostly demos. The reissues are kind of weird in that the albums themselves aren't remastered (though I don't think the original pressings were that bad anyway)... but the b-sides are remastered and the demos are all pushed into the red. "World Hello" is also edited by a minute, but "Emmeline" is also extended by a minute...


but yeah, they're otherwise good sets. The demos have some unreleased tracks mixed in with them that are pretty good too.


Suckmaster Burstingfoam: There was actually a decent enough scene in the US. Medicine was there, but also lovesliescrushing, Drop Nineteens when they weren't being grunge, Galaxie 500, and the whole noise scene that sort of fit alongside that world like Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, B*A*L*L, maybe Band of Susans, and so on. Were Swirlies from the US too?



I've never understood the recent inclusion of Galaxie 500 as being a Shoegaze band. It's weird because I've never heard of people making this connection until like the past year or so. Even putting them in the same category as SY, Dinosaur jr., and Band of Susans doesn't quite make sense to me.


but otherwise, yeah, I do think the US scene seem to expand upon what the original UK acts were doing.
 
2012-12-28 10:41:14 AM
FeedTheCollapse:I've never understood the recent inclusion of Galaxie 500 as being a Shoegaze band. It's weird because I've never heard of people making this connection until like the past year or so. Even putting them in the same category as SY, Dinosaur jr., and Band of Susans doesn't quite make sense to me.

but otherwise, yeah, I do think the US scene seem to expand upon what the original UK acts were doing.


Well, anyone really could question the inclusion of most stuff in that scene, right? Me, I never understood including Catherine Wheel - they were pop-metal to me, like Boston or something. And maybe Lush's first EPs were riot grrl, Pale Saints' first album was meant to be psychedelia, Loop were a Hawkwind-type riffrock band, and so on. The only reason the British press lumped them together was because they all went to each others' gigs, their records were produced with more-or-less the same sound, and there were really only a couple record labels involved in putting the stuff out.

Galaxie 500 was enjoyed by a lot of the same people who enjoyed the MBV scene, and live they pretty much shared the same headspace as bands like Moose or Slowdive (but with Neil Young style guitar solos). Sure it's wrong to lump them into the same category as e.g. Sonic Youth (though their producer was in B*A*L*L, who were definitely in the same New York scene as SY); but Ride and Slowdive similarly had little in common musically, yet they're both accepted as part of the same scene. In both cases, maybe you could say those bands are opposite ends of a continuum.

The whole "shoegaze" category was press-manufactured anyway. There was the pretty music, and there was the noisy postpunk music, and a lot of the bands were inspired by different sounds themselves. About the only thing in common was that none of them could play instruments particularly well, so they all decided to become inventive with the skillset they had, thus either the heavy guitar effects (Chapterhouse) or the noise (Isn't Anything) or the wall of reverb (Slowdive).

Oh, and the fanbase smoked about the same amount of pot. From what I can remember. Which isn't much.
 
2012-12-28 11:25:00 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: There was actually a decent enough scene in the US. Medicine was there, but also lovesliescrushing, Drop Nineteens when they weren't being grunge, Galaxie 500, and the whole noise scene that sort of fit alongside that world like Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, B*A*L*L, maybe Band of Susans, and so on. Were Swirlies from the US too?


Swirlies were U.S., too, yes. They came out of that Boston scene.

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: The whole "shoegaze" category was press-manufactured anyway. There was the pretty music, and there was the noisy postpunk music, and a lot of the bands were inspired by different sounds themselves.


It's definitely a more nebulous genre than a lot of people suggest, with some pretty wide variety in sound and approach, everything from borderline metal to pop to pure noise.
 
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