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2012-12-27 02:45:15 PM
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Zapruder: The new series really should be called Existential Spider-Man.

What is your consciousness if not all of your memories, footsteps, and live leading up to this moment? Who exactly are you? In ASM #698, when the body switch was revealed, Octo-Spidey straight up told Peter-in-Oct's-body "I have all of your memories, and you have all of mine." At that point, the two could look back and remember the other's life, like watching a video.

BUT, at the end of ASM #700, their minds are linked again. And Peter Parker's consciousness kicks it up a notch. He forces Octavius to actually live through those memories, essentially living Peter Parker's entire life. Completely. He pulls an Aladdin. You want to be Spider-Man? You get everything that comes with it. By forcing Octavius to actually live his entire life, he makes Otto become Peter Parker. This isn't a clone. This isn't a symbiotic relationship. This isn't two minds in one body.

Superior Spider-Man is going to be Doctor Octopus having lived his entire life and THEN ON TOP OF THAT having lived Peter Parker's entire life. At the core of it, Peter Parker is still alive in a way. His consciousness, his memories, everything that we know about him from the 50 year run of Amazing Spider-Man is going to be there. If your thoughts and memories and experiences are who you are then this. is. still. Peter Parker.

Meanwhile, the original one that we've read first-hand has finally received his rest. He gets to die and be at peace. It wasn't that Octavius beat him physically and outsmarted him completely. Yes, he was on death's door and yes he wasn't going to be able to beat Ock. Yes. He is dead. But before his death, he did something he's never done before. By forcing Octavius to live as him, he didn't just beat the villain again. He didn't just do the same thing he's done for 50 years of comics and out-punch, out-smart, and out-last the villain. He made the villain become him completely.

Honestly, it's the most beautiful ending I cou ...


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2012-12-27 01:31:03 PM
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The new series really should be called Existential Spider-Man.

What is your consciousness if not all of your memories, footsteps, and live leading up to this moment? Who exactly are you? In ASM #698, when the body switch was revealed, Octo-Spidey straight up told Peter-in-Oct's-body "I have all of your memories, and you have all of mine." At that point, the two could look back and remember the other's life, like watching a video.

BUT, at the end of ASM #700, their minds are linked again. And Peter Parker's consciousness kicks it up a notch. He forces Octavius to actually live through those memories, essentially living Peter Parker's entire life. Completely. He pulls an Aladdin. You want to be Spider-Man? You get everything that comes with it. By forcing Octavius to actually live his entire life, he makes Otto become Peter Parker. This isn't a clone. This isn't a symbiotic relationship. This isn't two minds in one body.

Superior Spider-Man is going to be Doctor Octopus having lived his entire life and THEN ON TOP OF THAT having lived Peter Parker's entire life. At the core of it, Peter Parker is still alive in a way. His consciousness, his memories, everything that we know about him from the 50 year run of Amazing Spider-Man is going to be there. If your thoughts and memories and experiences are who you are then this. is. still. Peter Parker.

Meanwhile, the original one that we've read first-hand has finally received his rest. He gets to die and be at peace. It wasn't that Octavius beat him physically and outsmarted him completely. Yes, he was on death's door and yes he wasn't going to be able to beat Ock. Yes. He is dead. But before his death, he did something he's never done before. By forcing Octavius to live as him, he didn't just beat the villain again. He didn't just do the same thing he's done for 50 years of comics and out-punch, out-smart, and out-last the villain. He made the villain become him completely.

Honestly, it's the most beautiful ending I could think of. Peter Parker goes to heaven or Valhalla or whatever peaceful afterlife you can think of. He retires, along with his comic series itself, and ascends. And it's because he does something truly great. He saves Otto Octavius and gives him a second chance, a chance to continue doing good and even do better as Spider-Man. Meanwhile, Otto Octavius' body is dead, his deeds are dead, his villainous ways are dead, and all is forgiven. With Octavius' body dying with Peter's mind in it, both are saved. Peter can rest, and the legacy of Doc Ock is no more.

Now Peter lives within Ock's mind- no...Peter is Ock's mind. There isn't going to be any battle of consciousness or extraction...they are absolutely the same person. It's still Peter, but it has to deal with Ock's need to be heroic, to truly earn his title as Superior. Because now that he is two in one, and now that he has sworn to be the best Peter Parker he can be, he still needs to earn it. The new series is going to be about this new Peter Parker who has all the potential to be the greatest superhero with the greatest mind and the strongest will, one who could eclipse the Amazing Spider-Man. BUT that's the thing...he could. That doesn't mean he automatically does. Superior Spider-Man now has to look back on a lifetime of evil followed by a lifetime of good and be better than both put together.

Needless to say, I think it could be a great series. That being said, like its title character, it has to work extraordinarily hard to earn it.
2012-12-27 08:17:12 AM
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2012-12-27 01:23:21 AM
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2012-12-26 07:12:03 PM
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Here's our thread to discuss this. As I posted in the redlit one: They should just get 80s style wacky and say it is REALLY A clone of Doc Ock....from a parallel universe in space.
 
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