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2012-12-27 03:27:23 AM
Wisent (as in the inspiration for buffalograss vodka) and wisent (or Euro-tatanka) are rather more like woods bison (yes, there are species and subspecies of bison. That live in wooded areas. Pretty much they blazed the Wilderness Trail in Kentucky, and you still see stuff named "buffalo run" and "buffalo trace" and such because there used to be wood bison that lived in KY. :D Now the American wood bison pretty much live in Banff National Park up in Canuckistan.)

Which is to say--a bit smaller, a bit friendlier to living in the woods, and probably every bit as tasty when mixed in a 50/50 ratio with some nice fresh Italian pork sausage and made into meatloaf (or without any mixing for proper "Indian chili" (denoting frybread, not naan--the latter would try to milk the bison and make paneer cheese to mix with chili sauce :D).
 
2012-12-27 03:29:06 AM
Oh, give me a home
Where the buffalo goose step
all day
 
2012-12-27 03:58:26 AM
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
 
2012-12-27 04:00:41 AM
Can we "Jurassic Park" the aurochs yet?
 
2012-12-27 04:00:52 AM
Good. Maybe they'll finally get Buffalo wings there too. I couldn't find any last time I was in Munich.
 
2012-12-27 04:09:40 AM
This sounds cuckoo.
 
2012-12-27 04:16:29 AM
so geben Sie mir ein Haus, wo der Büffel rom
 
2012-12-27 04:17:53 AM
Who knew "Rosanne Barr:" was German for 'Roaming Heard-beast'?
Kidding... but I saw a Nature show about Bison in the old Soviet Chernobyl area and they're thriving, as are the wolves, hawks, and other top predators. Great show.

Also, Mr. Porn Dragon, don't know where your 'nice bison" idea comes from. I tried a couple of times to feed some American Bison with wheat, the first time and beans the second time. Both time they wanted to kill me when I tried to ride them. Could be I was 8 years old and stupid, but you can't prove that.
 
2012-12-27 04:21:32 AM
"Germany is the first country west of Poland where the wisent will live in the wild once again. And whether the experiment is a success or a failure, it will certainly set an example."

Yeah, because fark Poland, they don't get to set examples, Germany does.
 
2012-12-27 04:33:12 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Can we "Jurassic Park" the aurochs yet?


No, they're trying eugenics programs to 'bring back' a beast that, to paraphrase Douglas Adams, is almost completely, but not entirely, quite unlike aurochs.
 
2012-12-27 04:49:24 AM
I'm guessing this is a European bison??? So why so "strange"?

Yeah, I concede it was a huge WTF? moment when I first heard of their existence. But my WTF? moment came 15 years before yours.

// because I am more learned than youse
// about to RTFA
 
2012-12-27 04:53:11 AM

Harry_Seldon: Oh, give me a home
Where the buffalo goose step
all day

~
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0/10 for being funny or having any sort of rhyming cadence with the original song.
10/10 for throwing your hat in the ring and giving it a try.

Despite not being funny I laughed heartily.

DAMN YOU! Head explodes etc.
 
2012-12-27 04:57:24 AM

Great Porn Dragon: Wisent (as in the inspiration for buffalograss vodka) and wisent (or Euro-tatanka) are rather more like woods bison (yes, there are species and subspecies of bison. That live in wooded areas. Pretty much they blazed the Wilderness Trail in Kentucky, and you still see stuff named "buffalo run" and "buffalo trace" and such because there used to be wood bison that lived in KY. :D Now the American wood bison pretty much live in Banff National Park up in Canuckistan.)

Which is to say--a bit smaller, a bit friendlier to living in the woods, and probably every bit as tasty when mixed in a 50/50 ratio with some nice fresh Italian pork sausage and made into meatloaf (or without any mixing for proper "Indian chili" (denoting frybread, not naan--the latter would try to milk the bison and make paneer cheese to mix with chili sauce :D).


You make me want some zubrowka with apple juice now for some reason.
 
2012-12-27 04:57:56 AM
"If the wisent wants to kill you, he can do it. But the same thing applies to deer and wild boar," he points out.

And, you know,...Germans.
 
2012-12-27 05:19:03 AM
userserve-ak.last.fm

ellipses QUESTION MARK?
 
2012-12-27 05:23:38 AM
The Krauts have a "North American Indian"/first nations fetish as well...

so this is no surprise.

interesting too , as Americans have a Nazi fetish too! (not the aboriginal first nations though)

how quaint.
 
2012-12-27 05:33:20 AM
Yes, because as everyone knows, "buffalo" is the correct term for the animals that lived in Europe before their extinction in the late Pleistocene. "Bison" are what live in North America.

She said pedantically before trotting off to bed.
 
2012-12-27 05:44:36 AM

Gyrfalcon: Yes, because as everyone knows, "buffalo" is the correct term for the animals that lived in Europe before their extinction in the late Pleistocene. "Bison" are what live in North America.

She said pedantically before trotting off to bed.


They are both bison.  European and American buffalo are bison.  Then again, they are also all buffalo, as "bison" predates "buffalo"  (a derivative of the French "boeuf") by a century.  The only true buffalo are in Asia and Africa, not that it matters, as the etymology of "buffalo" is purely a linguistic twist and not an evolutionary differentiator.

/he said, wondering who your coke dealer is
 
2012-12-27 06:30:45 AM
Mmmm... Bison.

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2012-12-27 06:31:29 AM
i.imgur.com
D'oh
 
2012-12-27 07:10:55 AM
We used to chase the wild boars in Graf and Hohenfels with our humvees, I dont think I'd chase a buffalo with one though
 
2012-12-27 08:04:40 AM

Onkel Buck: We used to chase the wild boars in Graf and Hohenfels with our humvees, I dont think I'd chase a buffalo with one though


I knew a guy who worked as caretaker for a herd of buffalo maintained by Mill Mountain Zoo in Roanoke, VA. He told me they are very unpredictable. He had a bull climb ONTO the tractor when he was dropping a roll of hay. He had to escape, in reverse, while using the hay lift like a jousting lance.

I don't know that I'd chase one with an Abrams tank.
 
2012-12-27 08:40:36 AM

fappomatic: Onkel Buck: We used to chase the wild boars in Graf and Hohenfels with our humvees, I dont think I'd chase a buffalo with one though

I knew a guy who worked as caretaker for a herd of buffalo maintained by Mill Mountain Zoo in Roanoke, VA. He told me they are very unpredictable. He had a bull climb ONTO the tractor when he was dropping a roll of hay. He had to escape, in reverse, while using the hay lift like a jousting lance.

I don't know that I'd chase one with an Abrams tank.


My uncle had 15 head of buffalo when I was growing up in Michigan. He said that one time when he was mowing the lawn near the pen that one of the animals stucks its horns in the fence and tore it right out of the ground. Yes, they can be pretty unpredicatable, and tastey!The one that tore the fence up ended up in the freezer
 
2012-12-27 08:59:55 AM

Great Porn Dragon: Wisent (as in the inspiration for buffalograss vodka) and wisent (or Euro-tatanka) are rather more like woods bison (yes, there are species and subspecies of bison. That live in wooded areas. Pretty much they blazed the Wilderness Trail in Kentucky, and you still see stuff named "buffalo run" and "buffalo trace" and such because there used to be wood bison that lived in KY. :D Now the American wood bison pretty much live in Banff National Park up in Canuckistan.)

Which is to say--a bit smaller, a bit friendlier to living in the woods, and probably every bit as tasty when mixed in a 50/50 ratio with some nice fresh Italian pork sausage and made into meatloaf (or without any mixing for proper "Indian chili" (denoting frybread, not naan--the latter would try to milk the bison and make paneer cheese to mix with chili sauce :D).


The naan would try to milk the bison? How the fark does that work?
 
2012-12-27 09:04:41 AM

Aquapope: Also, Mr. Porn Dragon, don't know where your 'nice bison" idea comes from. I tried a couple of times to feed some American Bison with wheat, the first time and beans the second time. Both time they wanted to kill me when I tried to ride them. Could be I was 8 years old and stupid, but you can't prove that.


You have to jerk them off first. Once they are in that post-orgasm haze, you can climb aboard and they'll happily trot around and give you a ride...
 
2012-12-27 09:24:57 AM
www.smeggys.co.uk

/mentioned the wildebeest once
 
2012-12-27 09:38:05 AM

Haliburton Cummings: The Krauts have a "North American Indian"/first nations fetish as well...

so this is no surprise.

interesting too , as Americans have a Nazi fetish too! (not the aboriginal first nations though)

how quaint.


Came to say this, (well, not the Godwin)
 
2012-12-27 09:45:16 AM

thamike: Gyrfalcon: Yes, because as everyone knows, "buffalo" is the correct term for the animals that lived in Europe before their extinction in the late Pleistocene. "Bison" are what live in North America.

She said pedantically before trotting off to bed.

They are both bison.  European and American buffalo are bison.  Then again, they are also all buffalo, as "bison" predates "buffalo"  (a derivative of the French "boeuf") by a century.  The only true buffalo are in Asia and Africa, not that it matters, as the etymology of "buffalo" is purely a linguistic twist and not an evolutionary differentiator.

/he said, wondering who your coke dealer is


There are lots of true buffalo in Europe, too, on dairy farms. Italy's awash in buffalo milk, to make the mozzarella di bufala.

I think the Pleistocene reference is accurate only in reference to giant bison. Which lived in North America, not Europe. And were bison, not buffalo.
 
2012-12-27 09:50:28 AM
www.aviapress.com

/not sure if this is really such a good idea.
 
2012-12-27 09:54:07 AM
 
2012-12-27 09:56:25 AM
Mein Hump.
 
2012-12-27 10:04:41 AM
Wild animals walking around unsupervised? Oh noes!
 
2012-12-27 10:06:44 AM

Onkel Buck: fappomatic: Onkel Buck: We used to chase the wild boars in Graf and Hohenfels with our humvees, I dont think I'd chase a buffalo with one though

I knew a guy who worked as caretaker for a herd of buffalo maintained by Mill Mountain Zoo in Roanoke, VA. He told me they are very unpredictable. He had a bull climb ONTO the tractor when he was dropping a roll of hay. He had to escape, in reverse, while using the hay lift like a jousting lance.

I don't know that I'd chase one with an Abrams tank.

My uncle had 15 head of buffalo when I was growing up in Michigan. He said that one time when he was mowing the lawn near the pen that one of the animals stucks its horns in the fence and tore it right out of the ground. Yes, they can be pretty unpredicatable, and tastey!The one that tore the fence up ended up in the freezer


One of the ranches where we dig dinos in SD used to have buffalo. All the holding pens have fences made completely of highway guard rail. Luckily they don't raise them anymore, otherwise we'd have to be even more careful in the pastures then when we are around the bulls.

Also, helpful sign. Makes me giggle like a schoolgirl everytime I see it.

i171.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-27 10:44:31 AM
Well, they gotta go SOMEWHERE when the regular season is over...

i5.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-27 12:07:00 PM

CheekyMonkey: Aquapope: Also, Mr. Porn Dragon, don't know where your 'nice bison" idea comes from. I tried a couple of times to feed some American Bison with wheat, the first time and beans the second time. Both time they wanted to kill me when I tried to ride them. Could be I was 8 years old and stupid, but you can't prove that.

You have to jerk them off first. Once they are in that post-orgasm haze, you can climb aboard and they'll happily trot around and give you a ride...


Ooh. I'll have to let my nephew know about that. My sister will be so happy with me when he rides around like "Tommy of the Kanza Plains". Though, the way Tommy acts he's going to try jerking them off all on his own. I kid.

Seriously, those farkers ain't cattle.
 
2012-12-27 12:24:18 PM
German customers make up the largest percent of this company's customer base ...

Panther Primitives
 
2012-12-27 12:38:34 PM

Captain Steroid: Well, they gotta go SOMEWHERE when the regular season is over...

[i5.photobucket.com image 450x299]


Unfortunately, we can't get them to go anywhere during the season, either.
 
2012-12-27 12:57:00 PM

Aquapope: Who knew "Rosanne Barr:" was German for 'Roaming Heard-beast'?
Kidding... but I saw a Nature show about Bison in the old Soviet Chernobyl area and they're thriving, as are the wolves, hawks, and other top predators. Great show.

Also, Mr. Porn Dragon, don't know where your 'nice bison" idea comes from. I tried a couple of times to feed some American Bison with wheat, the first time and beans the second time. Both time they wanted to kill me when I tried to ride them. Could be I was 8 years old and stupid, but you can't prove that.


When I mentioned "A bit friendlier to live in the woods"...I wasn't implying friendliness to humans :D (More "They find the woods homier and like to live in those as opposed to plains and stuff". I blame bad wording at the local equivalent of 4am. :D)

Bison can be...I won't say as nice as a Jersey cow, but at least friendly enough to feed sometimes...when they're young, that is. And even a baby bison calf will still headbutt mom hard enough in the udders (to make the milk drop) that it can lift mom off the ground. (Yes, I have seen this in action; local bison ranch around here had a female white buffalo calf born a few years back, which is a Seriously Major Deal in certain Plains First Nations. :D And yes, little Medicine Heart DID lift her mom off the ground in nursing.)

/have fed bison before...BABY bison, and even little bison calves are huge
//mind, these were plains bison. They don't really keep woods bison on ranches
///still maintains bison is damn yummy
 
2012-12-27 01:01:21 PM

Haliburton Cummings: The Krauts have a "North American Indian"/first nations fetish as well...

so this is no surprise.

interesting too , as Americans have a Nazi fetish too! (not the aboriginal first nations though)

how quaint.


I'm actually familiar with the German fascination with all things NDN (and, to an extent, a general fascination with the Old West)--seems there was a very popular adventure book series published in the 20s there (that can be basically summed up as "The Lone Ranger, Only Imagine Tonto As The Lead And The Lone Ranger As His Wasichu Sidekick") that has been popular again from about the 60s onwards thanks to movies about it.

Mind, said author Did Not Do The Research (the "Apache" protagonist is more like "Put every First Nations culture east of Washington state in a blender"), but let's just say you could make a small killing selling reproduction moccasins in Germany, LOL :D
 
2012-12-27 01:06:26 PM

CheekyMonkey: Great Porn Dragon: Wisent (as in the inspiration for buffalograss vodka) and wisent (or Euro-tatanka) are rather more like woods bison (yes, there are species and subspecies of bison. That live in wooded areas. Pretty much they blazed the Wilderness Trail in Kentucky, and you still see stuff named "buffalo run" and "buffalo trace" and such because there used to be wood bison that lived in KY. :D Now the American wood bison pretty much live in Banff National Park up in Canuckistan.)

Which is to say--a bit smaller, a bit friendlier to living in the woods, and probably every bit as tasty when mixed in a 50/50 ratio with some nice fresh Italian pork sausage and made into meatloaf (or without any mixing for proper "Indian chili" (denoting frybread, not naan--the latter would try to milk the bison and make paneer cheese to mix with chili sauce :D).

The naan would try to milk the bison? How the fark does that work?


Referring more to the "Naan-Indians" (the folks who live in Southwest Asia on that part that drops down before you get to the Middle East and have chutney and curry and palak paneer and Madras lentils and dal makhani and who speak a mess of Indo-European and Dravidian languages) and how they'd try to milk bison--because more than a few consider eating beef to be Not Kosher, and those same areas do milk not only cattle but buffalo (as in water-buffalo, the things that look like a cross between zebu cattle and wildebeest, not bison) for milk and cheese and ghee. :D

Again, this is an example of why I should not post at 4am; the English goes ALL to hell. :D

/though the idea of using a piece of naan bread to milk a bison is damned hilarious, come to think of it...I presume the naan is fed to the bison, but I'd still think it quite dangerous
 
2012-12-27 01:12:24 PM

Aquapope:

Seriously, those farkers ain't cattle.


No, bison most certainly are not cattle, and this has led to occasional acts of lulz as a result :D

Long story short--a lot of ex-tobacco farmers and even ex-cattle farmers have been getting into exotics farming and ranching around here; sometimes it's rare heritage breeds of cattle, sometimes it's ratites (usually emus, sometimes ostriches--rheas not so much, because they have the general disposition of cassowaries without the pseudo-dromie-claws) and a fair amount of the time it's bison.

Usually the ones who get into bison ranching as newbies find very rapidly that Bison Like To Roam. Beef cattle will knock down fences with weak spots as is (remember the fun experiences of herding Herefords back to their pasture after they busted the fences and walked into the suburbs and started munching on my front lawn two doors down...) and bison will especially knock down fences--there was one that broke out of a farm not too far from where I used to live that set up shop in a suburban neighbourhood and may well still be there because nobody can catch the farker :D
 
2012-12-27 01:46:46 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Aquapope:

Seriously, those farkers ain't cattle.

No, bison most certainly are not cattle, and this has led to occasional acts of lulz as a result :D

Long story short--a lot of ex-tobacco farmers and even ex-cattle farmers have been getting into exotics farming and ranching around here; sometimes it's rare heritage breeds of cattle, sometimes it's ratites (usually emus, sometimes ostriches--rheas not so much, because they have the general disposition of cassowaries without the pseudo-dromie-claws) and a fair amount of the time it's bison.

Usually the ones who get into bison ranching as newbies find very rapidly that Bison Like To Roam. Beef cattle will knock down fences with weak spots as is (remember the fun experiences of herding Herefords back to their pasture after they busted the fences and walked into the suburbs and started munching on my front lawn two doors down...) and bison will especially knock down fences--there was one that broke out of a farm not too far from where I used to live that set up shop in a suburban neighbourhood and may well still be there because nobody can catch the farker :D


There's a bison "ranch" about 10 minutes from where I work (in New Jersey, no less). A few years ago, one got loose, and charged some dude.
 
2012-12-27 03:36:56 PM

Dinodork: Also, helpful sign. Makes me giggle like a schoolgirl everytime I see it.


My favorite sign:

www.aerojockey.com
 
2012-12-27 05:37:28 PM

mbillips: thamike: Gyrfalcon: Yes, because as everyone knows, "buffalo" is the correct term for the animals that lived in Europe before their extinction in the late Pleistocene. "Bison" are what live in North America.

She said pedantically before trotting off to bed.

They are both bison.  European and American buffalo are bison.  Then again, they are also all buffalo, as "bison" predates "buffalo"  (a derivative of the French "boeuf") by a century.  The only true buffalo are in Asia and Africa, not that it matters, as the etymology of "buffalo" is purely a linguistic twist and not an evolutionary differentiator.

/he said, wondering who your coke dealer is

There are lots of true buffalo in Europe, too, on dairy farms. Italy's awash in buffalo milk, to make the mozzarella di bufala.

I think the Pleistocene reference is accurate only in reference to giant bison. Which lived in North America, not Europe. And were bison, not buffalo.


You are talking about Water Buffalo, which are Asian in origin.

upload.wikimedia.org

"True buffalo" were brought from the East to North Africa, then brought to Europe by the crusaders.

The rest is all bison, including--by your own correction--the Pleistocene giant "buffalo" that sparked this conversation in the first place.
 
2012-12-27 09:27:18 PM

thamike: You are talking about Water Buffalo, which are Asian in origin.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x533]

"True buffalo" were brought from the East to North Africa, then brought to Europe by the crusaders.

The rest is all bison, including--by your own correction--the Pleistocene giant "buffalo" that sparked this conversation in the first place.

~
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Water buffalo happily lived wild in the tropical Northern Territory of Australia for quite a while. It was even an unofficial emblem for that State, eg. they were commonly featured in tourist advertising.

Then one day [late 1980s at a guess] they sent in the helicopters and the men-with-assault-rifles and blew their brains out. Killed evey last one of them.

Something to do with their hooves damaging the ecosystem.

Australia also has a fark-ton of wild camels, but dems got soft feet, and they haven't been given a death sentence yet.
 
2012-12-28 05:26:18 AM

Big Ramifications: Water buffalo happily lived wild in the tropical Northern Territory of Australia for quite a while. It was even an unofficial emblem for that State, eg. they were commonly featured in tourist advertising.

Then one day [late 1980s at a guess] they sent in the helicopters and the men-with-assault-rifles and blew their brains out. Killed evey last one of them.

Something to do with their hooves damaging the ecosystem.

Australia also has a fark-ton of wild camels, but dems got soft feet, and they haven't been given a death sentence yet.


I saw a dromedary camel in Corinth once.  It was wild, and nobody knew where it came from. It was just chilling on the isthmus.
 
2012-12-28 06:58:43 AM

thamike: chilling on the isthmus


I'm gonna try and steal that somehow.
 
2012-12-28 05:27:05 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Can we "Jurassic Park" the aurochs yet?


Cool artice in this week's New Yorker about them. I learned a lot.
 
2012-12-28 06:03:38 PM

Big Ramifications: thamike: chilling on the isthmus

I'm gonna try and steal that somehow.


Merry Christhmus.
 
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