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(Gizmag)   Japan frontrunner to get International Linear Collider. It might be large and there might be hadrons involved   (gizmag.com) divider line 31
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2012-12-26 07:18:52 PM
i78.photobucket.com
Very Small Hardons
 
2012-12-26 10:20:09 PM
I'm sure that the geologically-sound nation of Japan can be entrusted with a massive collider that, if we are to believe what we've seen in Europe, is shut down for years if even so much as one steel nut is loose.
 
2012-12-26 10:20:47 PM
Anyone else remember when the US was the front-runner of innovation?
 
2012-12-26 10:21:16 PM
Godzilla time!
 
2012-12-26 10:23:04 PM
The Japanese are too much into consensus building and deference to authority for them to spawn the next Gordon Freeman.
 
2012-12-26 10:29:18 PM
Linear, eh? Wonder what it's going to be pointed at?
 
2012-12-26 10:56:20 PM
ArtosRCI'm sure that the geologically-sound nation of Japan can be entrusted with a massive collider that, if we are to believe what we've seen in Europe, is shut down for years if even so much as one steel nut is loose.

Sounds like it's time for the free market to start on the lucrative private accelerator business. ParticleX, anyone?
 
2012-12-26 11:11:01 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: ArtosRCI'm sure that the geologically-sound nation of Japan can be entrusted with a massive collider that, if we are to believe what we've seen in Europe, is shut down for years if even so much as one steel nut is loose.

Sounds like it's time for the free market to start on the lucrative private accelerator business. ParticleX, anyone?


maybe you could pick up the property from the unfinished Superconducting Super Collider in Texas cheap. Course fixing the inevitable decay will be expensive, but it's for SCIENCE!
 
2012-12-26 11:33:17 PM
loonatic112358 : "maybe you could pick up the property from the unfinished Superconducting Super Collider in Texas cheap. Course fixing the inevitable decay will be expensive, but it's for SCIENCE!"

I'm in. All I need to do is be at the right place and the right time and know the right people and "luck" my way into a few billion dollars, then latch on to some geek mythology so I can get blind fanbois backing my every move.

The private particle accelerator market is huge, man, this is going to be the future.

As for repairing the SSC, can you buy a 3D printer for me? Maybe one that can print out niobium-based superconducting magnets with 2K helium already printed in? We'll never need spare parts again!

We'll corner the market on the private particle tourism business!
 
2012-12-26 11:33:54 PM
Come on, Fermilab AND Argonne are already set up in Illinois; let's DO THIS!
 
2012-12-26 11:38:31 PM
Japan gets the International Linear Collider... somebody's making fun of their accent.
 
2012-12-26 11:41:48 PM

whither_apophis: Japan gets the International Linear Collider... somebody's making fun of their accent.


Especially when they put it in a huge corridor.
 
2012-12-26 11:43:19 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: As for repairing the SSC, can you buy a 3D printer for me? Maybe one that can print out niobium-based superconducting magnets with 2K helium already printed in? We'll never need spare parts again!


still got that old bug up your ass cause folks like different things then you, maybe by the time they can get around printing, fabbing shiat like that medical nanites will be available for those with the cash

Man, if you get your wish, how many decades will you spend telling kids to get off your damn lawn?
 
2012-12-27 12:01:33 AM

ArtosRC: I'm sure that the geologically-sound nation of Japan can be entrusted with a massive collider that, if we are to believe what we've seen in Europe, is shut down for years if even so much as one steel nut is loose.


When I think of particle colliders I think of big open spaces where you can build them. When I think of Japan, I do not think of big open spaces.
 
2012-12-27 12:04:25 AM
loonatic112358: " fabbing shiat like that medical nanites will be available for those with the cash"

BAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAAHHAHAH!!!! Hooo boy. I was reading about that in the '80s! I was sure we'd be there by now....LOL They were supposed to "fab" themselves... We've downgraded a bit since then, eh? You'll just fire up the old glue gun in a wood frame and "fab" some Star Trek nanites, right?

upload.wikimedia.org

So far, "nano" technology seems to be mostly very finely ground powders... Whoopee.

BTW, tell me, what is the difference between private space and private particle accelerators?
 
2012-12-27 12:08:21 AM

RogermcAllen: ArtosRC: I'm sure that the geologically-sound nation of Japan can be entrusted with a massive collider that, if we are to believe what we've seen in Europe, is shut down for years if even so much as one steel nut is loose.

When I think of particle colliders I think of big open spaces where you can build them. When I think of Japan, I do not think of big open spaces.


The LHS is underground under existing properties and farmland.
 
2012-12-27 12:13:29 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: So far, "nano" technology seems to be mostly very finely ground powders... Whoopee.BTW, tell me, what is the difference between private space and private particle accelerators?


a few billion dollars

give or take 10%

what's the difference between private space and you getting to live longer

Private space ventures seem to have gotten off the ground
 
2012-12-27 02:37:01 AM
Hell NO there will be NO hadrons involved!

The whole point of the ILC is to build a lepton accelerator that generates nice clean data signals, unlike the cacophany of debris that comes from hadron-hadron collisions.

Colliding a lepton/antilepton beam at 1TeV C.M.E. is worth roughly as much as colliding a proton/antiproton beam at 6TeV.

Quantum Apostrophe: loonatic112358 : "maybe you could pick up the property from the unfinished Superconducting Super Collider in Texas cheap. Course fixing the inevitable decay will be expensive, but it's for SCIENCE!"

I'm in. All I need to do is be at the right place and the right time and know the right people and "luck" my way into a few billion dollars, then latch on to some geek mythology so I can get blind fanbois backing my every move.

The private particle accelerator market is huge, man, this is going to be the future.

As for repairing the SSC, can you buy a 3D printer for me? Maybe one that can print out niobium-based superconducting magnets with 2K helium already printed in? We'll never need spare parts again!

We'll corner the market on the private particle tourism business!


Wow. I don't think I've ever encountered this much acid, bitterness and negativity outside the anode of a lead-acid battery.

It pleases me that by mid century we'll have transitioned to nuclear and renewable energy, taken further steps into both outer space and mindspace, and have access to mature additive volume rendering in the home. I wonder what you'll be negging about then? Probably ranting that the generation ship they'd building in the asteroid belt will never work, or that mind/machine interfaces will never let a mind migrate into the machine...
 
2012-12-27 02:49:53 AM

ArtosRC: I'm sure that the geologically-sound nation of Japan can be entrusted with a massive collider that, if we are to believe what we've seen in Europe, is shut down for years if even so much as one steel nut is loose.


That's not what you saw in Europe
 
2012-12-27 04:31:17 AM

TheManofPA: [i78.photobucket.com image 278x158]
Very Small Hardons


Came for the South Park....
 
2012-12-27 04:59:58 AM
yeah this seems like a great idea seeing the track record they have for poisoning the farking pacific ocean right now.
/fail-zilla
 
2012-12-27 05:12:55 AM

Haliburton Cummings: yeah this seems like a great idea seeing the track record they have for poisoning the farking pacific ocean right now.
/fail-zilla


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2012-12-27 06:10:58 AM
"loonatic112358
2012-12-27 12:13:29 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: So far, "nano" technology seems to be mostly very finely ground powders... Whoopee.BTW, tell me, what is the difference between private space and private particle accelerators?

a few billion dollars

give or take 10%

what's the difference between private space and you getting to live longer

Private space ventures seem to have gotten off the ground"

I assume it pleases you to jest? Are you claiming that we don't live longer than before? How many people have been born in hospitals, been vaccinated, used antibiotics? How many people have been to space?

You've got to be delusional if you think no one will live longer in the future but we'll all line up to blow our life savings for a 10 minute joyride.

And a few billion dollar market... Where are the private particle accelerators?
 
2012-12-27 08:04:18 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: loonatic112358 : "maybe you could pick up the property from the unfinished Superconducting Super Collider in Texas cheap. Course fixing the inevitable decay will be expensive, but it's for SCIENCE!"

I'm in. All I need to do is be at the right place and the right time and know the right people and "luck" my way into a few billion dollars, then latch on to some geek mythology so I can get blind fanbois backing my every move.

The private particle accelerator market is huge, man, this isgoing to be the future.

As for repairing the SSC, can you buy a 3D printer for me? Maybe one that can print out niobium-based superconducting magnets with 2K helium already printed in? We'll never need spare parts again!

We'll corner the market on the private particle tourism business!


Just borrow the billion from your dad. I'm sure he has it in his sock drawer for such an occasion.
 
2012-12-27 08:41:38 AM
I'm rooking forward to this Rinear Corrider.
 
2012-12-27 08:54:35 AM

erik-k: Haliburton Cummings: yeah this seems like a great idea seeing the track record they have for poisoning the farking pacific ocean right now.
/fail-zilla

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douchetard, there is a cheaply built reactor five feet from the pacific ocean that was wiped out by a tsunami.
Fukushima? ring a bell?
it is currently leaking major amounts of radiation into the ocean.

do your homework next time instead of being a moron.

go back to netflix and stfu
 
2012-12-27 09:05:08 AM

Haliburton Cummings: erik-k: Haliburton Cummings: yeah this seems like a great idea seeing the track record they have for poisoning the farking pacific ocean right now.
/fail-zilla

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/wtfamireading.jpg
/notsureifseriousorstupid.jpg

douchetard, there is a cheaply built reactor five feet from the pacific ocean that was wiped out by a tsunami.
Fukushima? ring a bell?
it is currently leaking major amounts of radiation into the ocean.

do your homework next time instead of being a moron.

go back to netflix and stfu


Uh.....what is it, exactly, that you think particle colliders do?
 
2012-12-27 10:50:19 AM

jso2897: Uh.....what is it, exactly, that you think particle colliders do?


They it would seem are nukular and shiat in his vested opinion, or at least that's my wild ass guess

/between QA who despises anything related to space cause it's stealing money that could be spent on researching ways to extend his life by a millisecond, to folks who should stop watching porn for a second and read something, hell watch something science related i fear our species may regress back to sub literate apes who live in their own shiat.

//Seriously QA, stop being an ass, we both could see our goals, one of use could, none of us could, but being bitter ain't going to make your life longer.
 
2012-12-27 11:25:32 AM
Why build one when you can build two at twice the price?
 
2012-12-27 11:57:48 AM

lohphat: Anyone else remember when the US was the front-runner of innovation?


The real problem is that the US is now trying to fund three major accelerator facilities - RHIC, Jeff-lab, and FRIB. Jeff-Lab just finished its major energy upgrade, FRIB is being built, and RHIC is pushing towards eRHIC. It'll be hard for the DOE to keep two of these on the table 5-10 years from now, so a 4th facility is pretty much off the table. cheers
 
2012-12-28 03:56:52 AM

jso2897: Haliburton Cummings: erik-k: Haliburton Cummings: yeah this seems like a great idea seeing the track record they have for poisoning the farking pacific ocean right now.
/fail-zilla

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 465x446]

/wtfamireading.jpg
/notsureifseriousorstupid.jpg

douchetard, there is a cheaply built reactor five feet from the pacific ocean that was wiped out by a tsunami.
Fukushima? ring a bell?
it is currently leaking major amounts of radiation into the ocean.

do your homework next time instead of being a moron.

go back to netflix and stfu

Uh.....what is it, exactly, that you think particle colliders do?


well tits, in simple terms they use a magnified field to accelerate particles down a track towards an amplifier.
the amplifier takes a picture and a number of other devices puke out some more data as well. (for brevity)

i'm not sure how linear colliders work exactly, but i assume it's a similar process.. from the infographic there, it looks like the same deal.

theoretically speaking though, giving a bunch of idiots who build nuke plants on the seaside a particle accelerator seems like a bad idea.

see, the marshall plan made it possible for japanese idiots to do pretty much whatever they wanted there, backed by american interest and yakuza controlled construction companies of course...like building reactors right next to an ocean...

i'm sorry my glib post wasn't detailed enough for you, i was trying to fit in with the super brains that populate this here place...like most of the "tweets" here... tl;dr etc

and before you get your tits in a bigger knot, i've been to triumph a few times so i'm not too much of an idiot. next year i will stop in at Cern. i have friends that work in the field. (pun intended)

particle accelerators are not proton flashlights.
according to "theory" they can do some pretty nasty things...when run by morons..

i think the Japanese should stick to what they do best and stay the f*ck away from reactors, particle accelerators etc..

btw, your pizza pop is ready
 
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