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2012-12-26 05:45:05 PM
I'm currently researching the Death Grip issues on my new Samsung Tab 2.0 so I'm getting a kick...

/it's not Christmas until you're troubleshooting one of your gifts
 
2012-12-26 05:55:09 PM

ProfessorOhki: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Which means, they are sending you a refurbished iPad with a new battery.
This saves them time and money, other then special handling your iPad that you send in for a new battery.
Either way, it's not just being dropped into a landfill.

True enough, but the device is still non-functioning from the user perspective. Once the battery goes, the official stance is, "you give it to us for a replacement." What they do with it on their side doesn't factor into the user experience. It's obviously more sustainable, but culturally... the people returning them don't care if they get refurb'd or shiatcanned as long as they get a replacement.


It's a stance apple has taken on many of their iDevices.

Personally I prefer the replacement instead of shipping it off to get fixed. Walk into an Apple store with a broken device, and you'll walk out of there with a replacement at no cost if it's under warranty.

The other alternative is to wait for them to fix it and ship it back. Most times it takes 1-3 weeks.
 
2012-12-26 06:14:24 PM

MindStalker: StinkyFiddlewinks: No. It won't. It will still be a perfectly functioning device, unless you're an asshole.

Hold on, but what if I am an asshole, what then?


Siri will find out and permanently disable your iPad.

/then close the pod bay doors.
 
2012-12-26 06:17:40 PM
If you waited until it was safe to buy something that wasn't obsolete you'd always be waiting. Especially with Apple products.
 
2012-12-26 06:23:50 PM

Mr. Fuzzypaws: If you waited until it was safe to buy something that wasn't obsolete you'd always be waiting. Especially with Apple products.


Or you can buy products with replaceable parts.

Imagine if you had to buy a new car more frequently because the tires were welded on, or a washing machine when the drive motor burned out.

The all-or-nothing mentality churns a lot of raw material handling which would otherwise not be needed.
 
2012-12-26 06:33:49 PM

ethernet76: ProfessorOhki: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Which means, they are sending you a refurbished iPad with a new battery.
This saves them time and money, other then special handling your iPad that you send in for a new battery.
Either way, it's not just being dropped into a landfill.

True enough, but the device is still non-functioning from the user perspective. Once the battery goes, the official stance is, "you give it to us for a replacement." What they do with it on their side doesn't factor into the user experience. It's obviously more sustainable, but culturally... the people returning them don't care if they get refurb'd or shiatcanned as long as they get a replacement.

It's a stance apple has taken on many of their iDevices.

Personally I prefer the replacement instead of shipping it off to get fixed. Walk into an Apple store with a broken device, and you'll walk out of there with a replacement at no cost if it's under warranty.

The other alternative is to wait for them to fix it and ship it back. Most times it takes 1-3 weeks.


I'm of the school that prefers being able to simply put a new battery in my device and recycle the old one. I don't like Apple's method because, even if odds are the one you get is fine, why would you ever want to swap your well-cared-for "like new" device for a refurb? Even if they could do it in-store, I don't think I'd go for their idea of support.

I like the experience I had with my HP laptop. HDD started to go bad, call it in, still under warranty, they send me a new drive, and give me two weeks (IIRC) to take care of transfer and wipe, mail back the busted one with the enclosed label, done (don't mail it back and they charge you for the new HDD). Zero added down time, no cost to me, completely ideal. No reason a battery replacement couldn't be like that. Now Toshiba on the other hand, "you can't buy a key switch," "no, you can't buy a keyboard," "unless you want to mail the whole thing in, take it to this hole-in-the-wall 'authorized service center' near you and we'll work out what the warranty covers later." Seriously, fark you Toshiba, it was a goddamn busted H-key; it didn't require 'professional' servicing, just mail me the $0.000002 scissor-switch.

/csb
 
2012-12-26 07:04:30 PM

StinkyFiddlewinks: No. It won't. It will still be a perfectly functioning device, unless you're an asshole.


Done in one.
 
2012-12-26 07:40:06 PM

Mike_LowELL: Hardware only becomes obsolete when there is software to make that hardware obsolete.  But please, continue to fight over your half-functional computers that can't have more than one window open at any time.  Lol.


Wait, hold the presses. I AGREE with you?

Truly the end times are upon us.
 
2012-12-26 07:51:47 PM

1000 Ways to Dye: Obsolete is not the same as not-being-the-best-available, unless you're some spoiled brat rich kid.


Good point.

Grither: 1000 Ways to Dye: Obsolete is not the same as not-being-the-best-available, unless you're some spoiled brat rich kid.

Who do you think owns iPads??


Gooder point.

/ I've got a pretty good point. And as long as I wear a hat no one notices.
 
2012-12-26 08:25:55 PM

abhorrent1: It doesn't matter. The idiots will buy the new one anyway cause OMG APPLE!


To be fair, those same people also live in new houses with granite everything, and drive next years model BMWs while gulping their venti frappes as they drive to their union factory job.
 
2012-12-26 09:28:38 PM

lohphat: Or you can buy products with replaceable parts.

Imagine if you had to buy a new car more frequently because the tires were welded on, or a washing machine when the drive motor burned out.


you suck at apt comparisons.
 
2012-12-26 10:27:06 PM

december: lohphat: Or you can buy products with replaceable parts.

Imagine if you had to buy a new car more frequently because the tires were welded on, or a washing machine when the drive motor burned out.

you suck at apt comparisons.


How so? If the power source of the washing machine can't be replaced without replacing the entire unit, how is that not apt? Ok, in the case of the car how about the engine? Blown gasket? New car time!
 
2012-12-26 11:39:11 PM
It's already obsolete. iOS is dated and clunky.
 
2012-12-27 12:05:23 AM
I'm enjoying my Nexus 10 but I'll be happy if someone "obsoletes" it by putting out a similar tablet with an OLED display.
 
2012-12-27 06:14:16 AM

RexTalionis: ProfessorOhki: a consistent user experience.

Too consistent - the iPad's user interface is firmly stuck in 2007.


Sent from your computer running Windows XP?
 
2012-12-27 06:37:43 AM

MaxSupernova: I'm viewing this from a soon to be obsolete ipad3.

I bought my wife a nexus 7 for her bday and that's a cool little device as well. I gotta say that $199 price point is far more attractive than the going rates for iPads.


My wife bought me an iPad 3 a few days before my birthday and the very next day they announced the new one 6 months early. She was pissed. I declined taking it back for a new one because nothing has the new connector.
 
2012-12-27 07:21:41 AM

Ordinary Genius: abhorrent1: It doesn't matter. The idiots will buy the new one anyway cause OMG APPLE!

To be fair, those same people also live in new houses with granite everything, and drive next years model BMWs while gulping their venti frappes as they drive to their union factory job.


Hmm. Maybe I need a union factory job.
 
2012-12-27 07:50:07 AM

lohphat: How so? If the power source of the washing machine can't be replaced without replacing the entire unit, how is that not apt? Ok, in the case of the car how about the engine? Blown gasket? New car time!


Power sources on appliances are not typically replaceable by users. Same with many Apple products. A savvy user can replace it, but your average joe six pack will probably call a specialist, much like a washing machine or a refrigerator.

So maybe you are great at apt comparisons. Just not in the way you think.
 
2012-12-27 08:17:17 AM

Nightenstaff: My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box
You say you've had your desktop for over a week?
Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique
Your laptop is a month old? Well that's great
If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight


My digital media is write-protected
Every file inspected, no viruses detected
I beta tested every operation system
Gave props to some, and others? I dissed 'em
While your computer's crashin', mine's multitaskin'
It does all my work without me even askin'
Got a flat-screen monitor forty inches wide wide
I believe that your says "Etch-A-Sketch" on the side
In a 32-bit world, you're a 2-bit user
You've got your own newsgroup, "alt.total-loser"
Your motherboard melts when you try to send a fax
Where'd you get your CPU, in a box of Cracker Jacks?
Play me online? Well, you know that I'll beat you
If I ever meet you I'll control-alt-delete you
What? What? What? What? What?

It's all about the Pentiums!
 
2012-12-27 09:29:06 AM
Once my iPad (first gen) has the battery finally die on it, THAT'S when I get to have real fun with it.

/I don't really know what I'll do with it, but I'm sure a new OS and case will be in order.
 
2012-12-27 12:09:00 PM
I have a hand-me-down iPad from when the fiance upgraded to the iPad2.  It is still functional in every way that it needs to be.

Of course, I may just be focusing on the silver lining because Free Technology, but that doesn't change the fact that it functions in all the ways I need it to.
 
2012-12-27 12:12:59 PM

MightyPez: Power sources on appliances are not typically replaceable by users. Same with many Apple products. A savvy user can replace it, but your average joe six pack will probably call a specialist, much like a washing machine or a refrigerator.


How long have you been moving goalposts?
 
2012-12-27 12:21:43 PM

lohphat: MightyPez: Power sources on appliances are not typically replaceable by users. Same with many Apple products. A savvy user can replace it, but your average joe six pack will probably call a specialist, much like a washing machine or a refrigerator.

How long have you been moving goalposts?


How am I moving goalposts? You wanted to compare the devices to appliances. I just did. If you don't like it don't make shiatty comparisons next time.
 
2012-12-27 12:23:28 PM

MightyPez: lohphat: MightyPez: Power sources on appliances are not typically replaceable by users. Same with many Apple products. A savvy user can replace it, but your average joe six pack will probably call a specialist, much like a washing machine or a refrigerator.

How long have you been moving goalposts?

How am I moving goalposts? You wanted to compare the devices to appliances. I just did. If you don't like it don't make shiatty comparisons next time.


I'm sorry that in your world "hard tasks" like using a tool box to replace a motor is insurmountable and a "specialist" must be called in.
 
2012-12-27 12:35:27 PM

lohphat: I'm sorry that in your world "hard tasks" like using a tool box to replace a motor is insurmountable and a "specialist" must be called in.


Actually I find those tasks to be fairly easy. As is replacing the battery in an iPhone.

People that don't typically don't do those things, however, tend to call specialists. When the pilot light starts blowing out repeatedly in their water heater they don't feel like they have the skill or confidence to replace the sensor will call a repair technician. The same as someone that doesn't feel comfortable opening up an iPhone will go to an Apple store and have someone certified look at it.

Attacking me isn't going to change this business model or educate people on do it yourself repairs.
 
2012-12-27 12:38:10 PM

MightyPez: Attacking me isn't going to change this business model


Attack you?

"don't make shiatty comparisons next time."

/buh-bye
 
2012-12-27 12:42:28 PM

lohphat: Attack you?


"I'm sorry that in your world "hard tasks" like using a tool box to replace a motor is insurmountable and a "specialist" must be called in."

I assumed this was directed at me. Was this a nebulous attack on everyone else?

lohphat: "don't make shiatty comparisons next time."


That was an attack of a shiatty comparison, not you.

But you really haven't responded to my points. You just kind got angry and curt it seems.
 
2012-12-27 01:13:12 PM

lohphat: MightyPez: Power sources on appliances are not typically replaceable by users. Same with many Apple products. A savvy user can replace it, but your average joe six pack will probably call a specialist, much like a washing machine or a refrigerator.

How long have you been moving goalposts?


At least he's on the playing field. You, not so much.
 
2012-12-27 01:16:52 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: lohphat: MightyPez: Power sources on appliances are not typically replaceable by users. Same with many Apple products. A savvy user can replace it, but your average joe six pack will probably call a specialist, much like a washing machine or a refrigerator.

How long have you been moving goalposts?

At least he's on the playing field. You, not so much.


I apologize that I'm old enough to remember that fixing your own shiat was standard practice and not shy away from a trivial mechanical challenge.
 
2012-12-27 01:53:44 PM

MightyPez: lohphat: How so? If the power source of the washing machine can't be replaced without replacing the entire unit, how is that not apt? Ok, in the case of the car how about the engine? Blown gasket? New car time!

Power sources on appliances are not typically replaceable by users. Same with many Apple products. A savvy user can replace it, but your average joe six pack will probably call a specialist, much like a washing machine or a refrigerator.

So maybe you are great at apt comparisons. Just not in the way you think.


Power sources on appliances are usually a cord that goes to the wall. If you can't figure out how to replace that, you probably shouldn't own a refrigerator, you might lock yourself in.
 
2012-12-27 02:00:39 PM

ProfessorOhki: Power sources on appliances are usually a cord that goes to the wall. If you can't figure out how to replace that, you probably shouldn't own a refrigerator, you might lock yourself in.


Alright, compressor then. It's not my comparison, I only ran with it.
 
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