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2012-12-26 10:49:35 AM
3 votes:
What a scam:

Wikipedia: "The claim appeared after a Pentecostalist dreamt in 1951 that his people's pre-Christian religion was Judaism and that their original homeland was Israel. Linguistically, Bnei Menashe are Tibeto-Burmans and belong to the Mizo, Kuki and Chin peoples.[4] They are called Chin in Burma. Prior to their conversion to Christianity in the 19th Century, the Chin, Kuki, and Mizo were headhunters and animists[5]"

What a scam.
2012-12-26 08:10:39 PM
2 votes:
Have you read the inspirational story of an Indian Jewish woman living as a man, "Lentl"?
2012-12-26 10:55:06 AM
2 votes:
s7.postimage.org
2012-12-26 10:06:49 PM
1 votes:

Make More Hinjews: Arkanaut: Hinjews?

Porous Horace: Is Injun Jew available for comment, kimosabewicz?

This race mixture is relevant to my interests.


"The name's Tonto Goldstein, ma'am."

/not obscure
2012-12-26 09:01:45 PM
1 votes:

Frankenstorm: Have you read the inspirational story of an Indian Jewish woman living as a man, "Lentl"?


You're a terrible person and you should feel bad :(
2012-12-26 12:57:06 PM
1 votes:
RexTalionis:

What a scam:

Wikipedia: "The claim appeared after a Pentecostalist dreamt in 1951 that his people's pre-Christian religion was Judaism and that their original homeland was Israel. Linguistically, Bnei Menashe are Tibeto-Burmans and belong to the Mizo, Kuki and Chin peoples.[4] They are called Chin in Burma. Prior to their conversion to Christianity in the 19th Century, the Chin, Kuki, and Mizo were headhunters and animists[5]"

What a scam.


Oh please. They converted to Orthodox Judaism before or just after getting to Israel so now they count as more Jewish than American Reform Jews.

Then there are the immigrant Russian Jews who are uncircumcised, know even less of halakha than a Reform toddler and have a taste for pork: these people are Jews by ancestry and by Soviet nationality law, ethnic rather than religious Jews. Many of them are not in Jewish in that sense (link).

And some don't even want to be says this article in Forward (link). To quote from it:

Only those who can claim a Jewish mother will be accepted as Jewish by the state sponsored Chief Rabbinate. And the Chief Rabbinate, with its exclusive jurisdiction over marriage, will only register marriages performed in Israel if they are between a man and woman it judges to be Jews. Others seeking such recognition must undergo an exclusively Orthodox conversion in Israel that is approved by the Chief Rabbinate. It is the Rabbinate's strictness on this matter that has helped generate the crisis the now stalled conversion legislation seeks to address.

These people are not even interested in formalizing their status as Jews so their marriages will be recognized. Many of them are even joining Christian Russian Orthodox churches in Israel.

I pity any Jew who thinks I'm some kind of Torah scholar, but my hunch is that sincere converts to Orthodoxy from anywhere of any ancestry are bound to outrank quasi- or pseudo-Jews who "slipped through the cracks."

Note that "the Law of Return also grants citizenship to the spouses of Jewish immigrants and to anyone who has at least one Jewish parent or grandparent - the latter a criterion influenced by Nazi Germany, which used the same standard in deciding who was liable for discrimination and oppression under Nazi law." Halakhically many of these people are actually goyim, but they get in because nascent Israel needed Holocaust survivors in order to outnumber the Arab Palestinians whose land they hoped to steal and also because it was impolitic for the Zionists to go "Pity us into a land of our own because of the Holocaust!" but to reject a lot of Holocaust survivors because being Jewish enough for Hitler wasn't Jewish enough for them. Israel is stuck with these "plane people" because it's too much trouble to change the Law of Return to favor only mitochondrial inheritance, let alone strict observance: many of the Zionists' non-frum or Gentile supporters and funders would turn away and eventually the land would again become a part of Syria.

Imagine what would happen to the Syrian Uprising if Assad attacked Israel: even Al Qaeda would have to avoid being thought to side with Israel, though they might not fight as part of Assad's army. Now imagine that happening after Israel's stream of money and military hardware from abroad dried up and half of Israel's populace had taken to the streets in protest against "Judeo-fascism." The present regime in the State of Israel is simply not strong enough to go it alone, which is why they'll even sup with Jerry Falwell's ilk.

These "children of Mannaseh" might not have been "really" Jewish before they immigrated, but I can't picture them being anything but ardent Zionists if Israel is attacked; while the Russian "Jews" might well sit it out (and the criminal element among them makes money from both sides), and some might even be a 5th column for the devil of Damascus.

For Israel it's not a scam, it's a bet that they hope will pay off, given the rising Arab birthrate and the declining Jewish one. If I could prove one Jewish grand-dad they might even take me: I could claim I'm an "Anús" and point to my circumcised willy as evidence of a "family tradition of Jewishness." As long as I put down my pork chop long enough to shoot some Arabs they wouldn't chase me away. It would be even better if I sincerely converted to say Lubavitch before I showed up yelling "I wanna kill! KILL! KILL!!!"

If it's a scam it's the "children of Mannaseh" who are the victims, being flown in as future cannon fodder on The Wings of Eagles (link).
2012-12-26 12:40:44 PM
1 votes:

big pig peaches: I can't name them leaving India. I next they'll be happy to get away from all the terrorism.


huh?
2012-12-26 12:27:04 PM
1 votes:

Porous Horace: re Shanghai: Yes, I've seen the documentary.
I think that most of the Jews who went during WWII didn't stay when the war was over.


files2.structurae.de
By the way, here's the synagogue from my hometown of Tianjin - pretty sure I saw this on my last trip there.
2012-12-26 12:23:02 PM
1 votes:

Porous Horace: re Shanghai: Yes, I've seen the documentary.
I think that most of the Jews who went during WWII didn't stay when the war was over.


There still are Jews there left over from WWII as well as native Jewish populations. Not a whole lot, I think most repatriated to Israel after the fact, but there are some still there.
2012-12-26 12:09:22 PM
1 votes:

Porous Horace: A Jewish couple from The Bronx embark on a year-long journey through China. One day, in a very small village in a remote Northern area they see, to their surprise, a synagogue!
They rush in and sit down, as services were just starting.
After the service they ran up to one of the congregants and asked/exclaimed "Hey - you're Jewish?!?" and the man replied "Yes, we are all Jews here."
Excited by this revelation they blurt out "We're from NY - and we're Jewish, too!"
The old man looks at them askance and says "Funny, you don't look Jewish."


On a serious note, there is a very small but active Jewish community in parts of China, especially Shanghai. This is due at least in part because Shanghai was, during WWII, one of the few sanctuary cities who took in Jewish refugees from Europe.
2012-12-26 11:58:18 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: Tumunga: They sure as hell don't look like Jews.

.
I always give a sad chuckle when Jewish people claim to be a race.

/Of course that silly claim is always followed by...
//We must murder the children of Palestine.
///Irony is a sick mofo.


This is not a claim about Israel.
This is a claim about Jews.

So this is not somehow merely anti-Zionist. This is anti-semitism.
2012-12-26 11:56:37 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: david_gaithersburg:

/Of course that silly claim is always followed by...
//We must murder the children of Palestine.
.

About that:

The Ma'alot massacre

the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, or the DFLP seized the school- 25 hostages, including 22 children, were killed and 68 more were injured.

Mercaz HaRav Massacre
Eight students killed. Eleven more were wounded, five of them placed in serious to critical condition


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Yeah, keeping people locked up in ghettos isn't as easy as you thought it would be.
2012-12-26 11:51:41 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: david_gaithersburg:

/Of course that silly claim is always followed by...
//We must murder the children of Palestine.
.

About that:

The Ma'alot massacre

the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, or the DFLP seized the school- 25 hostages, including 22 children, were killed and 68 more were injured.

Mercaz HaRav Massacre
Eight students killed. Eleven more were wounded, five of them placed in serious to critical condition


As long as you let schizophrenics have guns this will happen.
I define a schizophrenic as someone who believes in someone I can't see.
Occasionally, they do what the little voices in their heads tell them to do.
You can lock them all up, you can drug them all. or you can kill them all.
Over the years, all three solutions have been tried.

You can't stop them as long as you let them vote.
2012-12-26 11:41:39 AM
1 votes:

RexTalionis: What a scam:

Wikipedia: "The claim appeared after a Pentecostalist dreamt in 1951 that his people's pre-Christian religion was Judaism and that their original homeland was Israel. Linguistically, Bnei Menashe are Tibeto-Burmans and belong to the Mizo, Kuki and Chin peoples.[4] They are called Chin in Burma. Prior to their conversion to Christianity in the 19th Century, the Chin, Kuki, and Mizo were headhunters and animists[5]"

What a scam.


Zionists are desperate to get the Jewish head count up, anybody with any remote claim, even specious, to Judaism is welcome nowadays--unless they are Palestinian.
2012-12-26 11:38:50 AM
1 votes:
Is Injun Jew available for comment, kimosabewicz?
2012-12-26 11:38:45 AM
1 votes:
"Israel is my heritage and religion. Israel is everything to me," said Ben Asher, 23, who arrived with his family. "We are very happy. We've been waiting for this moment for hundreds of years."


How can they have been waiting for it for hundreds of years if the country isn't even 80 years old? And why didn't anyone move sooner than after hundreds of years? If your ancestors just kept moving to the next village over every decade you'd practically be there already.
2012-12-26 11:36:43 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: Tumunga: They sure as hell don't look like Jews.

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I always give a sad chuckle when Jewish people claim to be a race.

/Of course that silly claim is always followed by...
//We must murder the children of Palestine.
///Irony is a sick mofo.


Hey look, a wild storm front appear

i.dailymail.co.uk
2012-12-26 11:09:23 AM
1 votes:

ramblinwreck: For some reason I thought the subby was referring to Native Americans who were supposedly of Israeli descent (i.e., the Lamanites and Nephites - neither of which have any archeological record).


Nor do these guys. These guys believe they're Jewish because some Pentacostal preacher had a dream that they're Jewish.
2012-12-26 11:08:09 AM
1 votes:
For some reason I thought the subby was referring to Native Americans who were supposedly of Israeli descent (i.e., the Lamanites and Nephites - neither of which have any archeological record).
2012-12-26 10:48:14 AM
1 votes:
Hinjews?
2012-12-26 10:47:12 AM
1 votes:
I'd say something snarky but the fact that these people sustained their faith in the face of social asimilation is interesting. Much like the Jewish tribes in Northern Africa. But then, there's a reason third world nations remain third world nations.
2012-12-26 10:42:23 AM
1 votes:
The Fugawee?
 
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