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2012-12-26 08:37:19 AM  
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2012-12-26 08:42:16 AM  
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2012-12-26 08:47:34 AM  
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2012-12-26 09:18:53 AM  
+1 internets subby
 
2012-12-26 09:20:31 AM  
Subby is today's first winar

Well played
 
2012-12-26 09:26:29 AM  
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"But...but...it's not fair!!!!! John and Lindsey already saved that seat for me!!!! It's mine, and I want it NOW!!! I mean, for god's sake...I drive a truck!!!!"
 
2012-12-26 09:26:44 AM  
Too late for HOTY candidate?

Christ, I larfed.
 
2012-12-26 09:32:25 AM  
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-26 09:33:23 AM  
It's a cliche by now but it still amuses me.
 
2012-12-26 09:35:26 AM  
I've already lost enough of this Christmas spirit to biatch about three Politico links in a row on the politics tab. Why do you hate us so, modmins?
 
2012-12-26 09:37:43 AM  

aagrajag: Too late for HOTY candidate?

Christ, I larfed.


Anyone else read that as "Christ, I farted"? No? Just me then.


/downs coffee in one drink
 
2012-12-26 09:38:13 AM  
BAWNEY FWANK FWEAD!
 
2012-12-26 09:39:43 AM  
What makes you think Barney Frank likes filling seats? Maybe he's the kind of guy who likes to have his seat filled.
 
2012-12-26 09:40:10 AM  
I'm in favor of this headline, and I'm in favor of this idea.
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2012-12-26 09:40:20 AM  
And by site I mean Massachusetts.

Link
 
2012-12-26 09:41:54 AM  

Loud_Mouth_Soup: aagrajag: Too late for HOTY candidate?

Christ, I larfed.

Anyone else read that as "Christ, I farted"? No? Just me then.


/downs coffee in one drink


Forgive me father, for I have FFFFFFFFFFFRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT-sppppppplu-poot
 
2012-12-26 09:43:12 AM  

Loud_Mouth_Soup: aagrajag: Too late for HOTY candidate?

Christ, I larfed.

Anyone else read that as "Christ, I farted"? No? Just me then.


/downs coffee in one drink


You are not alone, my friend. In fact, I still choose to believe that aagrajag floated a mean ass biscuit.
 
2012-12-26 09:45:39 AM  
So let me get this straight: The Republicans in Mass:

1) Gerrymandered Frank out of his seat

2) Stonewalled Warren's nomination for consumer protection chief

3) Ran a lightweight against the lightweight who was filling Kennedy's seat

4) Swiftboated Obama's potential Sec State candidate

Leading to:

1) Warren running for and winning the Senate seat

2) Obama picking Kerry for Sec State which means there's nothing that can be done to keep him from taking the job, as he's already been vetted due to the committees he sits on in the Senate

3) Frank (one of the most popular politicians in Mass) being potentially appointed to run out Kerry's term, which would leave him a shoe-in for re-election


Classic
 
2012-12-26 09:49:41 AM  
Very, very silly/funny headline.
If anyone is wondering how to do "gay humor" right... There ya go.
 
2012-12-26 09:49:56 AM  
i1.kym-cdn.com
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-26 09:51:15 AM  
Dwight_Yeast

Republicans did not redraw the fourth Congressional district. That was Democrats top to bottom.
 
2012-12-26 09:52:25 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: 3) Frank (one of the most popular politicians in Mass) being potentially appointed to run out Kerry's term, which would leave him a shoe-in for re-election


I believe we he here in Mass have a law that says appointees that fill in for an elected senate or congressional seat can not be candidates for that office.
 
2012-12-26 09:57:09 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: So let me get this straight: The Republicans in Mass:

1) Gerrymandered Frank out of his seat

2) Stonewalled Warren's nomination for consumer protection chief

3) Ran a lightweight against the lightweight who was filling Kennedy's seat

4) Swiftboated Obama's potential Sec State candidate

Leading to:

1) Warren running for and winning the Senate seat

2) Obama picking Kerry for Sec State which means there's nothing that can be done to keep him from taking the job, as he's already been vetted due to the committees he sits on in the Senate

3) Frank (one of the most popular politicians in Mass) being potentially appointed to run out Kerry's term, which would leave him a shoe-in for re-election


Classic


GOP is playing checkers and the Dems are playing chess
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-26 09:57:54 AM  
soopey

There isn't a law. You're thinking about a one-time deal in 2009, I'll appoint you if you don't run. The governor could make the same deal again. It would be nonbinding.
 
2012-12-26 09:58:20 AM  

ZAZ: Dwight_Yeast

Republicans did not redraw the fourth Congressional district. That was Democrats top to bottom.


Citation? My understanding was that the GOP Gerrymandered Frank's district three times (over the last 30 years) and that the first two, he went out and won over a completely new constituency. This last time he just said "screw it".

soopey: I believe we he here in Mass have a law that says appointees that fill in for an elected senate or congressional seat can not be candidates for that office.


No, but it is a clusterfark:

In August 2009, Senator Ted Kennedy died, leaving a vacancy in the Massachusetts Senate delegation. In 2004 the Massachusetts General Court had withdrawn the authority of the governor to fill a U.S. Senate vacancy by appointment, to prevent the then-Governor Mitt Romney, a Republican, from appointing a Republican to fill the remainder of Democrat John Kerry's Senate term, if Kerry were to win the 2004 presidential election. The legislation was enacted over Romney's veto.[12][13][14][15][16] At that time, Senator Ted Kennedy successfully made personal appeals to Massachusetts Democratic legislative leaders to pass the bill, which had been stalled prior to his request.[17] The new law called for a special election months later to fill the vacancy. However, Kennedy's death denied Democrats in the U.S. Senate the 60‑vote supermajority required to end filibusters. Given the urgency of and narrow partisan support for some legislation before Congress, most notably health care reform, Democratic lawmakers and liberal pundits called for an interim senator to be appointed so that Massachusetts would have full Senate representation until the special election; Kennedy himself had requested such a change before he died. In September, the General Court passed legislation restoring the governor's power to make interim appointments to serve until the special election stipulated in the earlier legislation is held, over multiple bipartisan concerns of hypocrisy.[18][19][20][21][22] Kennedy's two sons, Patrick J. Kennedy and Edward Kennedy, Jr.,[23] and his wife, Victoria Reggie Kennedy,[21] had all expressed their preference for Kirk. Kirk was sworn in to office on September 25, 2009.[24] On September 23, 2009, several national media organizations reported that Kirk was favored by the family of the late Senator Edward M. Kennedy to be the senator's interim replacement, and that the family had communicated their preference to Governor Deval Patrick.[25][26][27] Governor Patrick announced Kirk's appointment the next day.[5][28][29] Kirk pledged he would not be a candidate in the special election, which was won by Republican Scott Brown.[30][31]

On September 24, 2009, members of the Massachusetts Republican Party filed suit seeking to block the appointment of Kirk, saying that under commonwealth law, the law giving Gov. Patrick the right to appoint Kirk should not take effect for 90 days. A hearing was scheduled for the morning of September 25 to resolve the issue.[32] A Suffolk Superior Court judge dismissed the case the same day, and Kirk took the oath of office as Senator that afternoon.[33][34]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_G._Kirk#U.S._Senate

tl;dr: Kirk pledged not to run when he filled Kennedy's seat, but there was nothing stopping him at that moment.
 
2012-12-26 09:59:07 AM  

soopey: Dwight_Yeast: 3) Frank (one of the most popular politicians in Mass) being potentially appointed to run out Kerry's term, which would leave him a shoe-in for re-election

I believe we he here in Mass have a law that says appointees that fill in for an elected senate or congressional seat can not be candidates for that office.


[Paul] Kirk, a longtime Kennedy family friend, reiterated that he would not run in the special election and said he planned to keep the late senator's staff.

Unless that article is completely wrong, he could have run, but he just chose not to.
 
2012-12-26 09:59:30 AM  

soopey: Dwight_Yeast: 3) Frank (one of the most popular politicians in Mass) being potentially appointed to run out Kerry's term, which would leave him a shoe-in for re-election

I believe we he here in Mass have a law that says appointees that fill in for an elected senate or congressional seat can not be candidates for that office.


has Frank sat in for Kerry? Has Kerry left his position?
 
2012-12-26 10:01:49 AM  

Hobodeluxe: Dwight_Yeast: So let me get this straight: The Republicans in Mass:

1) Gerrymandered Frank out of his seat

2) Stonewalled Warren's nomination for consumer protection chief

3) Ran a lightweight against the lightweight who was filling Kennedy's seat

4) Swiftboated Obama's potential Sec State candidate

Leading to:

1) Warren running for and winning the Senate seat

2) Obama picking Kerry for Sec State which means there's nothing that can be done to keep him from taking the job, as he's already been vetted due to the committees he sits on in the Senate

3) Frank (one of the most popular politicians in Mass) being potentially appointed to run out Kerry's term, which would leave him a shoe-in for re-election


Classic

GOP is playing checkerstic-tac-toe and the Dems are playing chessKal-toh


Star Trek'd it up for you, buddy.
 
2012-12-26 10:03:28 AM  

Hobodeluxe: GOP is playing checkers and the Dems are playing chess


it's more of a grasshopper/ant situation.
 
2012-12-26 10:04:03 AM  
Guess I'm wrong. It's still early. Time for more coffee.
 
2012-12-26 10:05:10 AM  
Just another old white man in the senate.
 
2012-12-26 10:08:07 AM  

Buffalo77: Just another old, openly-gay white man in the senate.

 
2012-12-26 10:10:32 AM  
I would pay money to watch Barney debate Scott Brown.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-26 10:12:23 AM  
Dwight_Yeast

I thought you were talking about the post-2010 census redistricting. That was purely Democratic, D governor and strong D supermajorities in both branches. Similar story post-2000; the weak Republican governor didn't have enough votes to sustain a partisan veto.

I think the 4th was gerrymandered after 1980, possibly after 1990. Either way, Democrats had solid legislative majorities despite Republican governors.
 
2012-12-26 10:13:03 AM  
Vera nize headline.
 
2012-12-26 10:13:08 AM  

Epoch_Zero: Buffalo77: Just another old, openly-gay white man in the senate.


I like my gay men open. Just not too open.
 
2012-12-26 10:13:44 AM  
nod wink nudge nudge
 
2012-12-26 10:14:06 AM  
Wow this headline is amazing and original just like every other Barney Frank related headline since he announced his retirement
 
2012-12-26 10:17:14 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: ZAZ: Dwight_Yeast

Republicans did not redraw the fourth Congressional district. That was Democrats top to bottom.

Citation? My understanding was that the GOP Gerrymandered Frank's district three times (over the last 30 years) and that the first two, he went out and won over a completely new constituency. This last time he just said "screw it".

soopey: I believe we he here in Mass have a law that says appointees that fill in for an elected senate or congressional seat can not be candidates for that office.

No, but it is a clusterfark:

In August 2009, Senator Ted Kennedy died, leaving a vacancy in the Massachusetts Senate delegation. In 2004 the Massachusetts General Court had withdrawn the authority of the governor to fill a U.S. Senate vacancy by appointment, to prevent the then-Governor Mitt Romney, a Republican, from appointing a Republican to fill the remainder of Democrat John Kerry's Senate term, if Kerry were to win the 2004 presidential election. The legislation was enacted over Romney's veto.[12][13][14][15][16] At that time, Senator Ted Kennedy successfully made personal appeals to Massachusetts Democratic legislative leaders to pass the bill, which had been stalled prior to his request.[17] The new law called for a special election months later to fill the vacancy. However, Kennedy's death denied Democrats in the U.S. Senate the 60‑vote supermajority required to end filibusters. Given the urgency of and narrow partisan support for some legislation before Congress, most notably health care reform, Democratic lawmakers and liberal pundits called for an interim senator to be appointed so that Massachusetts would have full Senate representation until the special election; Kennedy himself had requested such a change before he died. In September, the General Court passed legislation restoring the governor's power to make interim appointments to serve until the special election stipulated in the earlier legislation is held, over multiple bipartisan concer ...


The TLDR on that being that they took power away from a Republican governor to appoint a replacement and gave it back to a Democrat governor.

Dwight_Yeast: So let me get this straight: The Republicans in Mass:

1) Gerrymandered Frank out of his seat


Would this be the Massachusetts that has a legislature that is made up of 161 Democrats and 36 Republicans and a Democratic Governor? How exactly would Republicans be able to gerrymander this?
 
2012-12-26 10:17:40 AM  

Jackson Herring: Wow this headline is amazing and original just like every other Barney Frank related headline since he announced his retirement


He's no longer gay? Can you retire from that? What kind of pension plan is there?
 
2012-12-26 10:23:07 AM  
Filling his seat huh.. Why you...


www.joewrites.com
 
2012-12-26 10:34:31 AM  

aagrajag: Too late for HOTY candidate?

Christ, I larfed.


I'll second and third the nomination of this headline.
 
2012-12-26 10:38:53 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: ZAZ: Dwight_Yeast

Republicans did not redraw the fourth Congressional district. That was Democrats top to bottom.

Citation? My understanding was that the GOP Gerrymandered Frank's district three times (over the last 30 years) and that the first two, he went out and won over a completely new constituency. This last time he just said "screw it".



Link

How would that happen with both the legislature and the special committee for redistricting dominated by Dems? It seems like they had a couple token GOP legislators to give the appearance of cooperation and bilateral discussion, but I don't think they could've held up the committee.

And I'm not sure Barney Frank was gerrymandered out by the GOP (at least not for their own benefit). Joe Kennedy Jr. ran for his seat and won comfortably. IIRC, he received almost twice as many votes as Bielat.

Only Tierney had a close race, thanks to his clusterfark of a scandal, and Tisei's pro-gay rights and pro-choice stances swinging a lot people towards voting GOP.
 
2012-12-26 10:41:04 AM  

VictoryCabal: I've already lost enough of this Christmas spirit to biatch about three Politico links in a row on the politics tab. Why do you hate us so, modmins?


Now there are 4 in a row. I blame you.
 
2012-12-26 10:42:06 AM  

Hobodeluxe: has Frank sat in for Kerry? Has Kerry left his position?


Kerry has been announced as Obama's appointee. Because he's been in the Senate on the Foreign Relations Committee, he's already been vetted. There will be nothing new at his confirmation. Also, even though they're assholes, the Senate respects its own; Hillary had an easy confirmation because she was from the same club (and also sat on Foreign Relations iirc).

I can't even begin to explain how politically savvy Obama is. A move like this is something I don't think any other President has pulled out of his ass in at least a century. And this is the fifth or sixth time he's done something like this.
 
2012-12-26 10:45:55 AM  

CreativeFarkHandle: How would that happen with both the legislature and the special committee for redistricting dominated by Dems? It seems like they had a couple token GOP legislators to give the appearance of cooperation and bilateral discussion, but I don't think they could've held up the committee.

And I'm not sure Barney Frank was gerrymandered out by the GOP (at least not for their own benefit). Joe Kennedy Jr. ran for his seat and won comfortably. IIRC, he received almost twice as many votes as Bielat.

Only Tierney had a close race, thanks to his clusterfark of a scandal, and Tisei's pro-gay rights and pro-choice stances swinging a lot people towards voting GOP.


I'll buy it. But why in the hell did the state Dems Gerrymander one of the safest and staunchest Democrats in the House, and do it more than once?

Honestly confused.

(And in a number of states, redistricting is done by a bipartisan committee, but even with that the GOP have been Gerrymandering the hell out of Democratic districts to push Dems out of the House. It explains the vast disparity between the popular vote and the overall results in House races in November).
 
2012-12-26 10:47:02 AM  
Frank in the Senate would be a blast. He'll be biatchslappin McConnell, Inhofe, Demint and all the rest of the pompous douchebags all over the place.
 
2012-12-26 10:50:47 AM  

aagrajag: Too late for HOTY candidate?

Christ, I larfed.


Reminded me of the headline the Seattle Times ran over their article about Liberace's funeral: "Liberace Packs Them In to the End."
 
2012-12-26 10:55:44 AM  

ArkAngel: Dwight_Yeast: ZAZ: Dwight_Yeast

Republicans did not redraw the fourth Congressional district. That was Democrats top to bottom.

Citation? My understanding was that the GOP Gerrymandered Frank's district three times (over the last 30 years) and that the first two, he went out and won over a completely new constituency. This last time he just said "screw it".

soopey: I believe we he here in Mass have a law that says appointees that fill in for an elected senate or congressional seat can not be candidates for that office.

No, but it is a clusterfark:

In August 2009, Senator Ted Kennedy died, leaving a vacancy in the Massachusetts Senate delegation. In 2004 the Massachusetts General Court had withdrawn the authority of the governor to fill a U.S. Senate vacancy by appointment, to prevent the then-Governor Mitt Romney, a Republican, from appointing a Republican to fill the remainder of Democrat John Kerry's Senate term, if Kerry were to win the 2004 presidential election. The legislation was enacted over Romney's veto.[12][13][14][15][16] At that time, Senator Ted Kennedy successfully made personal appeals to Massachusetts Democratic legislative leaders to pass the bill, which had been stalled prior to his request.[17] The new law called for a special election months later to fill the vacancy. However, Kennedy's death denied Democrats in the U.S. Senate the 60‑vote supermajority required to end filibusters. Given the urgency of and narrow partisan support for some legislation before Congress, most notably health care reform, Democratic lawmakers and liberal pundits called for an interim senator to be appointed so that Massachusetts would have full Senate representation until the special election; Kennedy himself had requested such a change before he died. In September, the General Court passed legislation restoring the governor's power to make interim appointments to serve until the special election stipulated in the earlier legislation is held, over multiple bipart ...


eh... In another thread they have posters asserting that New Orleans is filled with rightwingers. Asserting that Massachusetts is controlled by Republicans is par.

Hobodeluxe: GOP is playing checkers and the Dems are playing chess


I've always hated that insipid analogy. It's what some people say because they think it sounds smart.
 
2012-12-26 10:56:40 AM  
Isn't there somebody already filling Barney Frank's seat?
 
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