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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-26 09:32:16 AM
They only looked at kids with severe allergies.

The study reminds me of "hate crime" laws that in practice criminalize calling people names while being mean to them for unrelated reasons. Of course kids are going to exploit the allergy like they would any conspicuous trait. Is your kid harassed because she sucks on that inhaler like it's Justin Bieber's penis, or simply because she's ugly and stupid and friends with the wrong clique?

There are statistical methods to test whether allergies make kids more likely to be targets. The study did not use them. If it did I would be skeptical because of correlations between allergies and other traits. For example, if allergic boys can't play sports they may be unpopular for not being part of the football clique.
 
2012-12-26 09:32:25 AM
hellogiggles.com
 
2012-12-26 09:35:24 AM
Of course.  The weak and defective should be culled from the herd.
 
2012-12-26 10:26:30 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com


Bite down on the curb kid
 
2012-12-26 11:03:09 AM
How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.
 
2012-12-26 11:23:00 AM

ZAZ: They only looked at kids with severe allergies.

The study reminds me of "hate crime" laws that in practice criminalize calling people names while being mean to them for unrelated reasons. Of course kids are going to exploit the allergy like they would any conspicuous trait. Is your kid harassed because she sucks on that inhaler like it's Justin Bieber's penis, or simply because she's ugly and stupid and friends with the wrong clique?

There are statistical methods to test whether allergies make kids more likely to be targets. The study did not use them. If it did I would be skeptical because of correlations between allergies and other traits. For example, if allergic boys can't play sports they may be unpopular for not being part of the football clique.


Pretty much this. If kids want to bully you, they'll figure out what makes you different. Even if you're perfectly normal, the bullies will make something up if they want.

Also, 33% of kids with allergies get bullied. Ok, how does that compare with the percentage of the general population that gets bullied?
 
2012-12-26 11:46:59 AM

Mugato: How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.


You could try looking at how much more things like wheat and peanuts we have in our diet now as opposed to back when we were cavemen, and look at the differences in our digestive systems between now and then, but I suppose wringing your hands on the internet about never having personally heard of this yourself is close enough too.
 
2012-12-26 12:30:49 PM

Mugato: How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.


I think there may have been a kid who was allergic to peanuts when I was in school and that's about it.  Most kids had peanut butter and jelly as a staple lunch every day.  I'm only 37, so it wasn't that long ago.  It does seem to have come up in the past decade or so.  I'm sure the allergy exists, but I wonder how it became so widespread in a seemingly short period of time.

The one I am skeptical of is the wheat allergy that seems to have come into existence in the past year or two.
 
2012-12-26 12:44:17 PM
Also, seeing as parents all but make their kids live in bubbles these days and seem to coddle those with allergies, it is not surprising that the kids get picked on.  (While we're at it, can we stop acting like "bullying" is a brand-new national tragedy that MUST or even can be stopped?  Pretty much all kids get picked on at some point, and most learn to deal. Actual "bullying" that parents should be concerned about is rare. Actual bullying that happens to kids with allergies is even more rare.  Yeah, they might be picked on or made fun of, but that's life.)
 
2012-12-26 12:59:57 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Mugato: How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.

You could try looking at how much more things like wheat and peanuts we have in our diet now as opposed to back when we were cavemen, and look at the differences in our digestive systems between now and then, but I suppose wringing your hands on the internet about never having personally heard of this yourself is close enough too.


The hygiene hypothesis is one of the big theories, as is overuse of soy products for very young children.
 
2012-12-26 01:00:18 PM
If you tell my kid that he is not allowed to bring peanuts in his lunch (such as a PBJ sandwhich) then yes he is going to be pissed.

There would be less bullying if these kid's helicopter parents try and ruin fun for everybody else.
 
2012-12-26 01:00:21 PM
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE PUSSIES!!
/walk it off.
 
2012-12-26 01:00:53 PM
^ I mean if they didn't try and ruin everyone else s fun.
 
2012-12-26 01:02:56 PM

Mugato: How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.


Discussion of food allergies is weird. My dad is deathly (seriously) allergic to walnuts, has been his whole life. I didn't find out about it until I was in my 20s.

Maybe it's one of those things that the last generation thought it was "weak" to talk about.
 
2012-12-26 01:03:36 PM

serpent_sky: Also, seeing as parents all but make their kids live in bubbles these days and seem to coddle those with allergies, it is not surprising that the kids get picked on.  (While we're at it, can we stop acting like "bullying" is a brand-new national tragedy that MUST or even can be stopped?  Pretty much all kids get picked on at some point, and most learn to deal. Actual "bullying" that parents should be concerned about is rare. Actual bullying that happens to kids with allergies is even more rare.  Yeah, they might be picked on or made fun of, but that's life.)


If you want to take this view then fine but don't come complaining when the bullied kid comes back with a gun and responds to the bullying.

Adults being assholes to adults is one thing because we can handle it. A kid getting bullied since grade school can cause huge issues with their development. Which then becomes societies problem when they grow up.
 
2012-12-26 01:03:52 PM
Gone are the good old days when the weak died out and the human genome was strengthened.
 
2012-12-26 01:04:11 PM
Reminds me of the fat tub of shiate lady who use to work on my floor. She said she was allergic to oranges and would have a fit if she smelled one.
I was eating an orange in my cube one day and I heard her yell "I smell an orange!!" The floor shook has she dragged her 250+ pounds around to find who was eating the orange. Of course she had no issue going down to the cafeteria and coming back up with big plates of slop to shove in her already huge pie hole.
 
2012-12-26 01:04:24 PM

serpent_sky: Mugato: How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.

I think there may have been a kid who was allergic to peanuts when I was in school and that's about it.  Most kids had peanut butter and jelly as a staple lunch every day.  I'm only 37, so it wasn't that long ago.  It does seem to have come up in the past decade or so.  I'm sure the allergy exists, but I wonder how it became so widespread in a seemingly short period of time.

The one I am skeptical of is the wheat allergy that seems to have come into existence in the past year or two.


A generation ago, if a kid died if he was in the same room as a peanut, the kid would be dead before he ever got to the classroom.

As for the gluten allergy, it mostly just gives you gas. You didn't know anybody who got gas as a kid?
 
2012-12-26 01:05:08 PM
cdn0.hark.com

We got so much food in America we're allergic to food. Allergic to food! Hungry people ain't allergic to shiat. You think anyone in Rwanda's got a farking lactose intolerance?!
 
2012-12-26 01:05:15 PM
Yet I've seen other "studies" that show that 1/3rd of ALL kids are bullied.

So what makes kids with allergies so special?
 
2012-12-26 01:07:07 PM

the_end_is_rear: Reminds me of the fat tub of shiate lady who use to work on my floor. She said she was allergic to oranges and would have a fit if she smelled one.
I was eating an orange in my cube one day and I heard her yell "I smell an orange!!" The floor shook has she dragged her 250+ pounds around to find who was eating the orange. Of course she had no issue going down to the cafeteria and coming back up with big plates of slop to shove in her already huge pie hole.


So, did you bully her?
 
2012-12-26 01:07:08 PM
All kids get bullied at one time or another. Just like wild animals the pecking order has to be established. It's not going away.
 
2012-12-26 01:07:16 PM

Emposter: Mugato: How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.

Discussion of food allergies is weird. My dad is deathly (seriously) allergic to walnuts, has been his whole life. I didn't find out about it until I was in my 20s.

Maybe it's one of those things that the last generation thought it was "weak" to talk about.


more than likely, he just figured out "hey, I can't eat this" and simply avoided it his whole life instead of making everyone around him go walnut free.
 
2012-12-26 01:07:16 PM

Warlordtrooper: Adults being assholes to adults is one thing because we can handle it. A kid getting bullied since grade school can cause huge issues with their development. Which then becomes societies problem when they grow up.


I said there was a difference between kids picking on each other and actual bullying... and that people need to stop acting like every interaction between kids that isn't sunshine and rainbows must immediately be stopped and corrected because it's "bullying".  The word has almost lost all meaning the way it is bandied around these days.  People are assholes. And children need to learn to deal with it or else they won't be able to function as adults.  In extreme cases of actual bullying, yes, adults should step in and help. But every "hey, loser, you can't eat peanuts ha ha!" moment in life is not bullying.
 
2012-12-26 01:08:24 PM

Mugato: How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.


Because peanuts are the most heavily GMO crop out there and it's likely that proteins were introduced that a larger part of the population is maladapted to process and that is recognized by more active immune systems as an intruder.
 
2012-12-26 01:10:23 PM
ArkAngel:

The hygiene hypothesis is one of the big theories...

I buy into this one.  If you PurelTM your kids to the point where their immune systems have nothing to do, their immune systems are going to fight back.  I made an affirmative point of letting my kids get out into the yard when they were old enough to sit up, and eat handfuls of grass, dirt, playground sand, etc.  if the mood struck them.  We also only PurelTM them if they get into contact with something that could really make them sick (e.g. after sticking a curious finger into the dog's chocolate starfish).
 
2012-12-26 01:10:42 PM

CheekyMonkey: the_end_is_rear: Reminds me of the fat tub of shiate lady who use to work on my floor. She said she was allergic to oranges and would have a fit if she smelled one.
I was eating an orange in my cube one day and I heard her yell "I smell an orange!!" The floor shook has she dragged her 250+ pounds around to find who was eating the orange. Of course she had no issue going down to the cafeteria and coming back up with big plates of slop to shove in her already huge pie hole.

So, did you bully her?


She bullied me.
lol
 
2012-12-26 01:12:56 PM

what_now: more than likely, he just figured out "hey, I can't eat this" and simply avoided it his whole life instead of making everyone around him go walnut free.


My daughter (2 1/2 yo) has a bad milk allergy, she had a peanut and tree nut allergy that has appeared to gone down below "allergic" levels according to blood and skin tests, but we still have milk products in the house.  At 2 she knows she cannot drink "milk" she has to drink her soy milk or water.  We don't stop parties from having goldfish or cheese platters out, we just make sure she knows not to touch it and other kids/adults not to feed them to her.

It's scary but what can you do.  No idea how a child can have a milk allergy when her mother eats more cheese than I knew existed and Mr. JB drinks milk on regular occasions...unless, that's the issue.  We found out about her milk allergy when she was 3 months old after she broke out head to toe in hives.

/getting a kick
 
2012-12-26 01:12:58 PM
How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird that it's so recent.

way back in 69 my peanut allergy stopped a train
 
2012-12-26 01:13:09 PM
So how long until peanuts are outlawed completely?

/when nuts are outlawed, only outlaws will have nuts
 
2012-12-26 01:13:21 PM

Mugato: How is it that this peanut allergy thing came out only in the last decade, at the most? I never heard of any kids literally DYING if they were in the same room as a peanut. I'm not disputing that this is a real thing, it just seems weird  that it's so recent.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2230985/Wealthy-middle-clas s -parents-homes-excessively-clean-make-children-MORE-likely-develop-dea dly-peanut-allergy.html

GERMS!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! NO GERMS IN MY PRECIOUS BABY FACTORY!
 
2012-12-26 01:13:50 PM

the_end_is_rear: CheekyMonkey: the_end_is_rear: Reminds me of the fat tub of shiate lady who use to work on my floor. She said she was allergic to oranges and would have a fit if she smelled one.
I was eating an orange in my cube one day and I heard her yell "I smell an orange!!" The floor shook has she dragged her 250+ pounds around to find who was eating the orange. Of course she had no issue going down to the cafeteria and coming back up with big plates of slop to shove in her already huge pie hole.

So, did you bully her?

She bullied me.
lol


Yeah, you bully her here on Fark.com but when you leave work and she's riding on the back of your moped, you hang your head in shame and drive as fast as you can, hoping your friends don't see you .
 
2012-12-26 01:14:05 PM

Warlordtrooper: serpent_sky: Also, seeing as parents all but make their kids live in bubbles these days and seem to coddle those with allergies, it is not surprising that the kids get picked on.  (While we're at it, can we stop acting like "bullying" is a brand-new national tragedy that MUST or even can be stopped?  Pretty much all kids get picked on at some point, and most learn to deal. Actual "bullying" that parents should be concerned about is rare. Actual bullying that happens to kids with allergies is even more rare.  Yeah, they might be picked on or made fun of, but that's life.)

If you want to take this view then fine but don't come complaining when the bullied kid comes back with a gun and responds to the bullying.

Adults being assholes to adults is one thing because we can handle it. A kid getting bullied since grade school and not being allowed to defend themselves due to the zero-tolerance anti-bullying rules so prevalent these days can cause huge issues with their development. Which then becomes societies problem when they grow up.



FTFY
Kids should NOT have to just take it or be forced to rat the bullies out, it just gets the bullies after them harder
 
2012-12-26 01:14:14 PM
Our 8 year old came home with a handout from school. Listed all the behaviors that are bullying. I wanted to punch the teacher in the face.

Not including people in your click is bullying.
Threatening look is bullying.

What the hell?
 
2012-12-26 01:15:27 PM

the_end_is_rear: Reminds me of the fat tub of shiate lady who use to work on my floor. She said she was allergic to oranges and would have a fit if she smelled one.
I was eating an orange in my cube one day and I heard her yell "I smell an orange!!" The floor shook has she dragged her 250+ pounds around to find who was eating the orange. Of course she had no issue going down to the cafeteria and coming back up with big plates of slop to shove in her already huge pie hole.


Sounds like she was having a fit. But "fit" is nowhere near the same as "potentially lethal anaphylaxis."
 
2012-12-26 01:15:53 PM
www.tshirtlaundry.com
 
2012-12-26 01:16:24 PM
Give those little dorks a swirly ... with a peanut poop in the bowl.
 
2012-12-26 01:17:19 PM
engrishfunny.files.wordpress.com4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-26 01:17:20 PM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-26 01:18:16 PM
Just because everyone calls you Skippy doesn't mean they don't like you.
 
2012-12-26 01:18:25 PM

Warthog: (e.g. after sticking a curious finger into the dog's chocolate starfish).


s8.postimage.org
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-26 01:18:26 PM
At Thanksgiving we had fried turkey. I remarked that the bottle of peanut oil did not list peanuts in the ingredients list. The explanation I got is that oiling the peanuts makes them not allergenic.

What this mean is, we can boil kids in oil if they have peanut allergies.
 
2012-12-26 01:18:36 PM

ChipNASA: the_end_is_rear: CheekyMonkey: the_end_is_rear: Reminds me of the fat tub of shiate lady who use to work on my floor. She said she was allergic to oranges and would have a fit if she smelled one.
I was eating an orange in my cube one day and I heard her yell "I smell an orange!!" The floor shook has she dragged her 250+ pounds around to find who was eating the orange. Of course she had no issue going down to the cafeteria and coming back up with big plates of slop to shove in her already huge pie hole.

So, did you bully her?

She bullied me.
lol

Yeah, you bully her here on Fark.com but when you leave work and she's riding on the back of your moped, you hang your head in shame and drive as fast as you can, hoping your friends don't see you .


Funny but no. She was a programmer and would complain about everything and not show up for work. She went bye bye.
 
2012-12-26 01:19:32 PM

JacksonBryan: what_now: more than likely, he just figured out "hey, I can't eat this" and simply avoided it his whole life instead of making everyone around him go walnut free.

My daughter (2 1/2 yo) has a bad milk allergy, she had a peanut and tree nut allergy that has appeared to gone down below "allergic" levels according to blood and skin tests, but we still have milk products in the house.  At 2 she knows she cannot drink "milk" she has to drink her soy milk or water.  We don't stop parties from having goldfish or cheese platters out, we just make sure she knows not to touch it and other kids/adults not to feed them to her.

It's scary but what can you do.  No idea how a child can have a milk allergy when her mother eats more cheese than I knew existed and Mr. JB drinks milk on regular occasions...unless, that's the issue.  We found out about her milk allergy when she was 3 months old after she broke out head to toe in hives.

/getting a kick


out of curiosity, did you breast-feed or use formula?
 
2012-12-26 01:20:44 PM

j.lunatic: the_end_is_rear: Reminds me of the fat tub of shiate lady who use to work on my floor. She said she was allergic to oranges and would have a fit if she smelled one.
I was eating an orange in my cube one day and I heard her yell "I smell an orange!!" The floor shook has she dragged her 250+ pounds around to find who was eating the orange. Of course she had no issue going down to the cafeteria and coming back up with big plates of slop to shove in her already huge pie hole.

Sounds like she was having a fit. But "fit" is nowhere near the same as "potentially lethal anaphylaxis."


She was not allergic. It was just something to get her out work.
Kids with the peanut allergy, that is no laughing matter.
My wife is a dr. And I have heard the ER stories one too many times. Not fun.
 
2012-12-26 01:20:44 PM

One Bad Apple: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 255x400]



Bite down on the curb kid

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2012-12-26 01:21:24 PM

ZAZ: At Thanksgiving we had fried turkey. I remarked that the bottle of peanut oil did not list peanuts in the ingredients list. The explanation I got is that oiling the peanuts makes them not allergenic.

What this mean is, we can boil kids in oil if they have peanut allergies.


Actually I've heard the same.  My daughter was able to eat certain items that used peanut oil as long as it was not cold pressed, expelled, or extruded.  So...um, boil away I guess.
 
2012-12-26 01:22:22 PM

Maul555: JacksonBryan: what_now: more than likely, he just figured out "hey, I can't eat this" and simply avoided it his whole life instead of making everyone around him go walnut free.

My daughter (2 1/2 yo) has a bad milk allergy, she had a peanut and tree nut allergy that has appeared to gone down below "allergic" levels according to blood and skin tests, but we still have milk products in the house.  At 2 she knows she cannot drink "milk" she has to drink her soy milk or water.  We don't stop parties from having goldfish or cheese platters out, we just make sure she knows not to touch it and other kids/adults not to feed them to her.

It's scary but what can you do.  No idea how a child can have a milk allergy when her mother eats more cheese than I knew existed and Mr. JB drinks milk on regular occasions...unless, that's the issue.  We found out about her milk allergy when she was 3 months old after she broke out head to toe in hives.

/getting a kick

out of curiosity, did you breast-feed or use formula?


Mrs. JB breast-fed, but we found out while away for my birthday party when my inlaws supplemented with a bottle of formula (and we had in the past too).
 
TWX
2012-12-26 01:23:37 PM
My wife stopped bothering working with her local Alumni group because of food/catering issues with vegetarians, vegans, and Alumni parents demanding special treatment for their food-allergy kids. One set of parents was particularly annoying, not only being insistent on their child's diet (why don't you bring food for him yourself if he's allergic to wheat?) but not teaching this child that when there's a Q&A session with a presenter with multiple PhDs, that the child's questions to the presenter probably aren't the only questions that the entire audience wants to hear asked.

The group made a policy that food-related choices were going to be made for the dietary considerations of actual Alumni members only, not of their plus-one accompanying people or on children or the like, but by that point she was so tired of dealing with petty, stupid problems (what do you mean, I have to pay through the organization's website for this event? What do you mean, I can't pay for just the lecture and not dinner? What do you mean, no refunds on an event that needed 25 people to break even and I was the 25th person and no one else bought tickets?) that she walked away from participating.

I have a suggestion for parents of children with food allergies. Teach your kids how to avoid the foods that make them allergic, and teach them how to understand the nature of the severity of those allergies and how to literally eat around them if necessary. Teach them to not swap lunch components with other kids if they're potentially fatally allergic to something like peanut butter. The burden should be on you as the parent of this particular child to see that the child you've created lives, not on other parents who now can't send a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to school with their kids because your kid is too stupid to avoid eating their kids' peanut butter. If your kid is so allergic as to have airborne problems with the smell of peanut butter then you need to supply a separate lunch and your kid needs to leave the room to go eat it in private or with other equally allergic kids.

Real life isn't going to be as kind to your allergic kids as you've managed to get schools to be, so get them used to it now.
 
2012-12-26 01:23:41 PM

Warlordtrooper: serpent_sky: Also, seeing as parents all but make their kids live in bubbles these days and seem to coddle those with allergies, it is not surprising that the kids get picked on.  (While we're at it, can we stop acting like "bullying" is a brand-new national tragedy that MUST or even can be stopped?  Pretty much all kids get picked on at some point, and most learn to deal. Actual "bullying" that parents should be concerned about is rare. Actual bullying that happens to kids with allergies is even more rare.  Yeah, they might be picked on or made fun of, but that's life.)

If you want to take this view then fine but don't come complaining when the bullied kid comes back with a gun and responds to the bullying.

Adults being assholes to adults is one thing because we can handle it. A kid getting bullied since grade school can cause huge issues with their development. Which then becomes societies problem when they grow up.


Kids are cruel to each other....  NEWS AT 11

/always been that way, always will
 
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