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(The New York Times)   And bless the Chinese and Syrians for they make us food that only the Devil could turn down. Et nomine patri et fili spiritus sancti   (nytimes.com) divider line 33
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2012-12-26 09:25:12 AM
I remember when I used to work as a teenager at the local animal shelter. The liberal hippies in the town had gotten together and pushed a bill through city council to make us a no-kill shelter. We would get so overcrowded with cats that we had to do something, right? Our answer came in the form of Ming Chi Sou, the owner of a chain of Chinese Restaurants  in Memphis. This kind man offered to adopt every one of our cats! Every saturday he'd come in and take a few hundred stray cats, and throw them in the back of his van with promises to treat them well. A few hours later, we'd have the most delicious General Tso's chicken you can ever imagine delivered to us. It was so fresh, succulant, and gamey under the spice that we just loved to eat there.

We also got these nifty fur caps for Christmas. I still have mine today!

You know, I never figured out though what that man wanted with all those cats.
 
2012-12-26 09:30:03 AM
You just everything all over the.
 
2012-12-26 09:30:36 AM
graphics8.nytimes.com

One gang could run this world! One gang. Nothing would move without us allowing it to happen. We could tax the crime syndicates, the police, world governments, because WE got the streets, suckers! Can you dig it?
CAN YOU DIG IT?!!
 
2012-12-26 09:36:18 AM

GungFu: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x348]

One gang could run this world! One gang. Nothing would move without us allowing it to happen. We could tax the crime syndicates, the police, world governments, because WE got the streets, suckers! Can you dig it?
CAN YOU DIG IT?!!


Is it bad that I've *never* seen that movie? I have a pirated copy but I've never watched it
 
2012-12-26 09:43:00 AM
Its tough for Catholic priests/bishops/deacons or pretty much anyone who works for the church over there (Foreign or Chinese-born). The PRC wants such strict control over religion that they forced the Catholic church into having the PRC approve bishops nominated. Because of this, the church is mostly underground with the pope withholding the names of nominated Chinese bishops whenever there has been a change.

This may not strike a chord with many people on Fark or the internet in general, but the suppression of religion is as much associated with free speech in China than anything else.
 
2012-12-26 09:47:13 AM

The Southern Logic Company: Its tough for Catholic priests/bishops/deacons or pretty much anyone who works for the church over there (Foreign or Chinese-born). The PRC wants such strict control over religion that they forced the Catholic church into having the PRC approve bishops nominated. Because of this, the church is mostly underground with the pope withholding the names of nominated Chinese bishops whenever there has been a change.

This may not strike a chord with many people on Fark or the internet in general, but the suppression of religion is as much associated with free speech in China than anything else.


China selects its own Catholic bishops. Any bishop who is selected and ordained by the Chinese government is promptly excommunicated by the Vatican.
 
2012-12-26 09:49:42 AM
What's with the smug grin the guy on the right is cracking?

Thinking about last night's yuletide choirboy rape?
 
2012-12-26 09:50:34 AM
Also, did you guys know the Pope was a Nazi?

/here to help
 
2012-12-26 09:53:03 AM
Momma, please make the bad man go away.
 
2012-12-26 09:56:40 AM

The Southern Logic Company: Its tough for Catholic priests/bishops/deacons or pretty much anyone who works for the church over there (Foreign or Chinese-born). The PRC wants such strict control over religion that they forced the Catholic church into having the PRC approve bishops nominated. Because of this, the church is mostly underground with the pope withholding the names of nominated Chinese bishops whenever there has been a change.

This may not strike a chord with many people on Fark or the internet in general, but the suppression of religion is as much associated with free speech in China than anything else.


Hang in there.
In the final analysis, your Gov is doing you a favor.
You want religeon, you certainly don't need the Catholic Church.
Find something that suits your needs, not the pederasts' club of all your money and good sense.
 
2012-12-26 09:57:46 AM

LockeOak: The Southern Logic Company: Its tough for Catholic priests/bishops/deacons or pretty much anyone who works for the church over there (Foreign or Chinese-born). The PRC wants such strict control over religion that they forced the Catholic church into having the PRC approve bishops nominated. Because of this, the church is mostly underground with the pope withholding the names of nominated Chinese bishops whenever there has been a change.

This may not strike a chord with many people on Fark or the internet in general, but the suppression of religion is as much associated with free speech in China than anything else.

China selects its own Catholic bishops. Any bishop who is selected and ordained by the Chinese government is promptly excommunicated by the Vatican.


Indeed they do, I don't contest that. Are those bishops legitimate? No. Governments are not supposed to exercise their authority over this process. It would be like the US government picking a new set of mid-level managers at an international business conglomerate, they have no business doing so.
 
2012-12-26 09:58:00 AM

GungFu: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x348]

One gang could run this world! One gang. Nothing would move without us allowing it to happen. We could tax the crime syndicates, the police, world governments, because WE got the streets, suckers! Can you dig it?
CAN YOU DIG IT?!!


1.2 billion hardcore members!
 
2012-12-26 09:59:00 AM
FTFA: "Wearing a short red cape lined with white ermine..."

How long before PETA throws red paint on him?
 
2012-12-26 10:11:15 AM

The Southern Logic Company: LockeOak: The Southern Logic Company: Its tough for Catholic priests/bishops/deacons or pretty much anyone who works for the church over there (Foreign or Chinese-born). The PRC wants such strict control over religion that they forced the Catholic church into having the PRC approve bishops nominated. Because of this, the church is mostly underground with the pope withholding the names of nominated Chinese bishops whenever there has been a change.

This may not strike a chord with many people on Fark or the internet in general, but the suppression of religion is as much associated with free speech in China than anything else.

China selects its own Catholic bishops. Any bishop who is selected and ordained by the Chinese government is promptly excommunicated by the Vatican.

Indeed they do, I don't contest that. Are those bishops legitimate? No. Governments are not supposed to exercise their authority over this process. It would be like the US government picking a new set of mid-level managers at an international business conglomerate, they have no business doing so.


Not disagreeing, just adding detail.
 
2012-12-26 10:12:40 AM

BronyMedic: I remember when I used to work as a teenager at the local animal shelter. The liberal hippies in the town had gotten together and pushed a bill through city council to make us a no-kill shelter. We would get so overcrowded with cats that we had to do something, right? Our answer came in the form of Ming Chi Sou, the owner of a chain of Chinese Restaurants  in Memphis. This kind man offered to adopt every one of our cats! Every saturday he'd come in and take a few hundred stray cats, and throw them in the back of his van with promises to treat them well. A few hours later, we'd have the most delicious General Tso's chicken you can ever imagine delivered to us. It was so fresh, succulant, and gamey under the spice that we just loved to eat there.

We also got these nifty fur caps for Christmas. I still have mine today!

You know, I never figured out though what that man wanted with all those cats.


If you are serious; that wasn't chicken, it was cat.

/ there, actually, was a Chinese resturaunt in town that had a cat fall through the ceiling. When they investigated; they found that the chicken was really cat, and there were hundreds of strays and other cats in one back room. It caused quite a scandal, as you might imagine.
 
2012-12-26 10:13:35 AM

snocone: The Southern Logic Company: Its tough for Catholic priests/bishops/deacons or pretty much anyone who works for the church over there (Foreign or Chinese-born). The PRC wants such strict control over religion that they forced the Catholic church into having the PRC approve bishops nominated. Because of this, the church is mostly underground with the pope withholding the names of nominated Chinese bishops whenever there has been a change.

This may not strike a chord with many people on Fark or the internet in general, but the suppression of religion is as much associated with free speech in China than anything else.

Hang in there.
In the final analysis, your Gov is doing you a favor.
You want religeon, you certainly don't need the Catholic Church.
Find something that suits your needs, not the pederasts' club of all your money and good sense.


Full disclosure: I am a former Catholic raised by a Deacon. I currently do not practice a religion nor do I attend church.

I can understand the "Religion is the opioid of the masses" argument made by socialists/communists and the anti-religion crowd alike, however this is not simply about letting the Church operate. The suppression of religion goes beyond a campaign against religious influence (or foreign influence), this is about isolating the Chinese people from the outside world. To give you an example, even in state-approved churches the Chinese and the foreign services are segregated. Not because of language, because the government does not want the Chinese to see foreigners worship. They don't want them to be able to ask questions or share ideas about religion.

Though religion and facebook are not the same, they are both platforms for the exchange of ideas the government may consider dangerous. Thus, they are both suppressed. Which is, in my opinion, a terrible thing.

LockeOak:
Not disagreeing, just adding detail.


My apologies, and thank you.
 
2012-12-26 10:20:58 AM

GungFu: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x348]

One gang could run this world! One gang. Nothing would move without us allowing it to happen. We could tax the crime syndicates, the police, world governments, because WE got the streets, suckers! Can you dig it?
CAN YOU DIG IT?!!


This is of course exactly the issue. Even so, it doesn't seem reasonable to expect Catholics will go along with Communists appointing their leaders. But they're pretty clearly not just like a business: they push ideology and policies at variance with the government's. Come to think of it, I wonder why the US does not register bishops as agents of a foreign state.
 
2012-12-26 10:24:58 AM

iheartscotch: / there, actually, was a Chinese resturaunt in town that had a cat fall through the ceiling. When they investigated; they found that the chicken was really cat, and there were hundreds of strays and other cats in one back room. It caused quite a scandal, as you might imagine.


l-userpic.livejournal.com
 
2012-12-26 10:30:24 AM
it's filii, subs
 
2012-12-26 10:30:40 AM

somedude210: GungFu: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x348]

One gang could run this world! One gang. Nothing would move without us allowing it to happen. We could tax the crime syndicates, the police, world governments, because WE got the streets, suckers! Can you dig it?
CAN YOU DIG IT?!!

Is it bad that I've *never* seen that movie? I have a pirated copy but I've never watched it


I watched it.

It's not terrible, though there's a clear disconnect between modern and production era values and mores.

I found it watchable once, but not really ever again unless there's a compelling reason. As with most things 'you have to watch' for whatever reason, you're not missing much of anything.
 
2012-12-26 10:41:16 AM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: iheartscotch: / there, actually, was a Chinese resturaunt in town that had a cat fall through the ceiling. When they investigated; they found that the chicken was really cat, and there were hundreds of strays and other cats in one back room. It caused quite a scandal, as you might imagine.

[l-userpic.livejournal.com image 100x100]


Dog is better on pizza than cat, IMHO.
While cat is pretty good as sweet/sour, never had dog that way, can't say.
And snake is good, lizard, mehh.
 
2012-12-26 10:46:45 AM
You forgot an et, subby.

/Latin teacher
//not even Catholic
 
2012-12-26 10:50:34 AM

here to help: What's with the smug grin the guy on the right is cracking?

Thinking about last night's yuletide choirboy rape?


You know those weird comedy/tragedy face things that theater nerds hang on their walls? A guy could make a good one by photoshopping that guy's face together with the guy on the left's.
 
2012-12-26 10:54:05 AM

residentgeek: You forgot an et, subby.

/Latin teacher
//not even Catholic


...and made some capitalization errors. Probably didn't cross himself at the right time, either.

///not Catholic either
 
2012-12-26 10:58:39 AM

BokerBill: GungFu: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x348]

One gang could run this world! One gang. Nothing would move without us allowing it to happen. We could tax the crime syndicates, the police, world governments, because WE got the streets, suckers! Can you dig it?
CAN YOU DIG IT?!!

This is of course exactly the issue. Even so, it doesn't seem reasonable to expect Catholics will go along with Communists appointing their leaders. But they're pretty clearly not just like a business: they push ideology and policies at variance with the government's. Come to think of it, I wonder why the US does not register bishops as agents of a foreign state.


No, they are not just like a business, but a government doesn't have the authority (at least in the US) to meddle in the internal affairs of businesses or religious groups unless a crime is committed. Yes, the ideology professed by most religions will run counter to the beliefs of a communist system. Is this a legitimate reason for their suppression though, ban it because it disagrees with state opinion?

The oath that a bishop takes is in no way counter to the constitution of the US nor is it an oath of loyalty to a foreign power. The idea that bishops are an agent of a foreign state is absurd.
 
2012-12-26 11:02:20 AM

BronyMedic: I remember when I used to work as a teenager at the local animal shelter. The liberal hippies in the town had gotten together and pushed a bill through city council to make us a no-kill shelter. We would get so overcrowded with cats that we had to do something, right? Our answer came in the form of Ming Chi Sou, the owner of a chain of Chinese Restaurants  in Memphis. This kind man offered to adopt every one of our cats! Every saturday he'd come in and take a few hundred stray cats, and throw them in the back of his van with promises to treat them well. A few hours later, we'd have the most delicious General Tso's chicken you can ever imagine delivered to us. It was so fresh, succulant, and gamey under the spice that we just loved to eat there.

We also got these nifty fur caps for Christmas. I still have mine today!

You know, I never figured out though what that man wanted with all those cats.



you are sooo channeling Spentmiles with this post!
 
2012-12-26 11:06:57 AM

iheartscotch: If you are serious; that wasn't chicken, it was cat.

/ there, actually, was a Chinese resturaunt in town that had a cat fall through the ceiling. When they investigated; they found that the chicken was really cat, and there were hundreds of strays and other cats in one back room. It caused quite a scandal, as you might imagine.


Cats taste nothing like chicken. Obligate carnivores are not as tasty as you'd think they would be.

Also, it's time consuming to prep and clean a dead cat. It's easy to buy a case of chicken for $50 bucks that are already pre-feathered and pre-cut at Sam's Club. It'd make no sense for someone to use stray cats instead of just buying chicken.

Also, might I remind you that cats are also eaten by, among others, the Spanish, the English (in the past), the Swiss (it's considered a treasured culinary tradition in Switzerland) and in Italy (in the past) as well, so go fark yourself.
 
2012-12-26 11:21:16 AM

RexTalionis: iheartscotch: If you are serious; that wasn't chicken, it was cat.

/ there, actually, was a Chinese resturaunt in town that had a cat fall through the ceiling. When they investigated; they found that the chicken was really cat, and there were hundreds of strays and other cats in one back room. It caused quite a scandal, as you might imagine.

Cats taste nothing like chicken. Obligate carnivores are not as tasty as you'd think they would be.

Also, it's time consuming to prep and clean a dead cat. It's easy to buy a case of chicken for $50 bucks that are already pre-feathered and pre-cut at Sam's Club. It'd make no sense for someone to use stray cats instead of just buying chicken.

Also, might I remind you that cats are also eaten by, among others, the Spanish, the English (in the past), the Swiss (it's considered a treasured culinary tradition in Switzerland) and in Italy (in the past) as well, so go fark yourself.


It was not my intent to cause offence ; I was just commenting that it had actually occurred in Kansas of all places. The resturaunt that was responsible is infamous for shoddyness and nastiness.

I agree; cat does not taste like chicken. Cat is gamey as all hell. I am well aware that cat is seen as a legitimate food source in other countries.

/ my only issue is that they were passing it off as chicken; if you are going to serve cat, call it cat.

// I've eaten weirder stuff; I'm a huge fan of Unagi with eel sauce.
 
2012-12-26 11:55:58 AM

The Southern Logic Company: The oath that a bishop takes is in no way counter to the constitution of the US nor is it an oath of loyalty to a foreign power. The idea that bishops are an agent of a foreign state is absurd.


Not at all absurd. Bishops are subject to the pope, the head of state of Vatican City. They oversee the interests of the Church - again subject to the Vatican. They are in fact agents of a foreign power. Their involvement in local politics makes their activities a matter of state interest. This may not be a conflict as such, but their relation to Vatican City is pretty direct.
 
rpl
2012-12-26 12:59:33 PM
There's nothing special about Syrian food. Same exact thing as in Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iran or anywhere else.

Now Latakia pipe tobacco on the other hand... Yeah, that's a big problem.
 
2012-12-26 01:11:29 PM

here to help: Also, did you guys know the Pope was a Nazi?

/here to help


Interesting. Did you know that Saint Paul (Paul the Apostle, I mean, not one of the gazillion other saints named Paul) used to prosecute Christians back when he was called Saul of Tarsus? This was a guy who:
- Gave his approval to the death sentence of a Christian who was dragged out of the city and stoned by a mob of angry Jews
- Went door-to-door to find people who believed Christ was the Messiah and then sent them to prison
If Saul of Tarsus can end up as one of the patriarchs of early Christianity, I think a Nazi can find similar redemption. In fact, I can think of no person better suited to preach the absolution of sins through the sacrifice of the Savior than someone who really really messed up. Holiness without effort seems a little like cheating, if you take my meaning.

/Not a particularly religious guy, myself. Call me "a practicing Christian who's not getting much better at it."
 
2012-12-26 01:42:52 PM

tillerman35: here to help: Also, did you guys know the Pope was a Nazi?

/here to help

Interesting. Did you know that Saint Paul (Paul the Apostle, I mean, not one of the gazillion other saints named Paul) used to prosecute Christians back when he was called Saul of Tarsus? This was a guy who:
- Gave his approval to the death sentence of a Christian who was dragged out of the city and stoned by a mob of angry Jews
- Went door-to-door to find people who believed Christ was the Messiah and then sent them to prison
If Saul of Tarsus can end up as one of the patriarchs of early Christianity, I think a Nazi can find similar redemption. In fact, I can think of no person better suited to preach the absolution of sins through the sacrifice of the Savior than someone who really really messed up. Holiness without effort seems a little like cheating, if you take my meaning.

/Not a particularly religious guy, myself. Call me "a practicing Christian who's not getting much better at it."


He was part of the Hitler youth which was common in Germany back then. It really doesn't mean anything. Even most countries that formed the Allies of WWII who fought the Nazis LOVED Hitler and his ideas before he started invading other countries and even when he did a lot of folks were all, "yeah, whatever. We don't like those people anyway".

It was a ridiculous troll meant to be ridiculous.

That said I still think he's an evil jackass just like the rest of the Vatican goons and their global crime syndicate.

/raised RC
 
pla
2012-12-26 06:51:12 PM
Okay kids, betcha didn't know I could play grammar-nazi in two languages!

Try "In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti".
 
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