They do not want their children gunned down in American Schools,

Good. I'm tired of hearing how psychotic Russian kids are from Americans who have adopted them.

At least the babes are still legal.

Old news blah blah blah.

Aren't the brides emotionally and intellectually still children too?

Part of the appeal right?

chuckufarlie: They do not want their children gunned down in American Schools,

It's ok to have one or two pet issues, but you've crossed the line into obsession.

No guns here. Nothing to see. Move along now.

tankjr: Good

Jesus christ that's a day ruiner right there.

Because the Cold War was just too much fun to let die!

/at least now they're aiming laws at each other instead of building more nukes

Jesus H Christ what a crappy website. Clicking through to each new paragraph is a joke. How hard is it to just put an entire article on a single page?

Unaniomous? I guess the Russian Parlaiment showed us! I knew a family who adopted two children from Russia. The baby was fine but the toddler was, without exaggeration, out of control. He shook constantly -- could not handle the sensory overload after 2 years in an orphanage's crib.

Have they barred Russian women from drinking while pregnant? Not that the two issues are connected or anything.

tankjr: Good

Those poor girls. At least he got a good sentence unlike anders who gets 20 years.

tankjr: Good

Well... Yeah. There's that.

Plus, didn't the whole Adopt Russian Children thing come into vogue when Russia took stock after the wall came down and realized that they had like 25 million vagrants under the age of 18?

I had assumed that would peter out sooner or later. They even passed a law a while back to discourage older vagrant kids from "recruiting" younger kids into being vagabonds like Russian Artful Dodgers. Are they still shiatting out vagrants out there in Ruskania? Or are we just slow on the uptake and just adopting from Russia because it's like... what we do... man?

Ha! Now our unwanted children will be forced to remain in Russia instead of being adopted to a country with higher standards of living than ours. Take that, America!

Countries tend to do this when they get into girly-slap-fights with other countries.

Increase interdictions on drugs entering your country from our country? Ask that we stop imprisoning political prisoners? Freeze the bank accounts of international mob-chiefs?

Okay then, you can't adopt our orphaned children. That will show you who's boss.

So you can only get the starter kit. Sometimes making what you want is more fun anyway. I don't want more kids, but I still like repeating the process.

Jaws_Victim: Those poor girls. At least he got a good sentence unlike anders who gets 20 years.

Or unlike the men who get away with it completely.

A Terrible Human: tankjr: Good

Jesus christ that's a day ruiner right there.

I clicked the link expecting it to be the one about that woman who packed her 7 year old adopted Russian son onto a plane to Russia with a one way ticket and a note that she didn't want him anymore.

Turns out that wasn't the worst American-Russian adoption story.

Crap. I hope this doesn't mean u can only get one of those brown or Asian skinned babbies now. Those things clash with the Volvo.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: chuckufarlie: They do not want their children gunned down in American Schools,

Yeah, the Commies dont no nutting about no school shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis

Read: Terrorism.

I used to work with a guy that was getting a 'mail order' bride. Guy was half Italian, half Korean ethnicity and attracted women like no man I have ever seen.

As a guy it was fascinating to watch. But, he ignored them all, he wanted a Russian mail order bride. Apparently there are websites dedicated to these types of things.

He actually flew out to meet one a few times. He was raised in South Korea until he was 12 and wanted nothing to do with an American woman.

Dear Russia-

Good for you. We're sick and tired of your Fetal Alcohol Syndrome exports, anyway.

Sincerely,
Childless Americans

Americans are more likely to adopt Russian children with defects or from dire upbringings, which is why people are saying the government shouldn't use this bill as payback. Why the fark this even came to light I have no idea. They just countered Obama's bill with their own that is pretty much the same so why they had to throw this adoption one in is just weird.

Cymbal: Aren't the brides emotionally and intellectually still children too?

Part of the appeal right?

No, that's just the sales pitch. They're actually the scheming girlfriends of Ukrainian mafiosi, and they're running a scam on the idiots who think some "Russian" babe is desperate enough to marry their fat, old, uncharming ass. They get here, get the green card, dump the loser and bring the boyfriend over.

/True story.

No. Not good.

Do you believe it would be better for a [nationality] child to live a life of grinding poverty just so he could remain [same nationality], when a first-world life might be made available to him? Our two sons are adopted from Eastern Europe. The younger one had rickets when he came here. Look that one up if you need to. Oh, and he also had a positive response to tuberculosis exposure. He's in good health now. The older one had to have surgery on arrival and sustained an ankle injury over there so bad that it can't be repaired. That happened to him sometime between birth and age 2. He can run about half as fast as the other kids he goes to school with, but he says he's not quitting the basketball team. They were living in a state orphanage and had been since birth. The dust in here always gets worse whenever I think of their lives before they came here, so excuse me while I take care of that.

No. Not good.

Merry Christmas, everybody.

mbillips: Cymbal: Aren't the brides emotionally and intellectually still children too?

Part of the appeal right?

No, that's just the sales pitch. They're actually the scheming girlfriends of Ukrainian mafiosi, and they're running a scam on the idiots who think some "Russian" babe is desperate enough to marry their fat, old, uncharming ass. They get here, get the green card, dump the loser and bring the boyfriend over.

/True story.

Yes, but during that time you get to have sex with a hottie. If she refuses, you can divorce her and send her ass back to whatever third world shiathole (Albania, Philadelphia, Siberia, whatever) she's from.

onyxruby: I used to work with a guy that was getting a 'mail order' bride. Guy was half Italian, half Korean ethnicity and attracted women like no man I have ever seen.

As a guy it was fascinating to watch. But, he ignored them all, he wanted a Russian mail order bride. Apparently there are websites dedicated to these types of things.

He actually flew out to meet one a few times. He was raised in South Korea until he was 12 and wanted nothing to do with an American woman.

Well an American woman will point and laugh at the little pee, pee BUT a hungry desperate Russian will lie.

They're banning caviar?

Because most Americans just abuse adopted children, right?

Let this be a lesson to those who would pass legislation via knee-jerking.... I am sure all those potential adoptees will be much better off now.


/applies to sandyhook and gun laws too

/reads the article...

It is Russia's response to the Magnitsky Act, a law signed by U.S. President Barack Obama earlier this month to bar Russians accused of human rights violations from entering the United States and to freeze any assets they hold there.

Oh, so its the Russians using children as a thin excuse to be assholes to us for no good reason? everyone carry on then...

CornerPocket: No. Not good.

Do you believe it would be better for a [nationality] child to live a life of grinding poverty just so he could remain [same nationality], when a first-world life might be made available to him? Our two sons are adopted from Eastern Europe. The younger one had rickets when he came here. Look that one up if you need to. Oh, and he also had a positive response to tuberculosis exposure. He's in good health now. The older one had to have surgery on arrival and sustained an ankle injury over there so bad that it can't be repaired. That happened to him sometime between birth and age 2. He can run about half as fast as the other kids he goes to school with, but he says he's not quitting the basketball team. They were living in a state orphanage and had been since birth. The dust in here always gets worse whenever I think of their lives before they came here, so excuse me while I take care of that.

No. Not good.

Merry Christmas, everybody.

So because you wanted white kids instead of taking care of children from right here in the US you have justified it as saving some child from half way across the world.

Good for you for adopting but you condemned a child of your own nationality to grinding poverty because your kid being white meant more than him or her being American.

Maul555: /reads the article...

It is Russia's response to the Magnitsky Act, a law signed by U.S. President Barack Obama earlier this month to bar Russians accused of human rights violations from entering the United States and to freeze any assets they hold there.

Oh, so its the Russians using children as a thin excuse to be assholes to us for no good reason? everyone carry on then...

worse than just using children, he "would also outlaw some U.S.-funded non-governmental organisations"

CornerPocket: No. Not good.

Do you believe it would be better for a [nationality] child to live a life of grinding poverty just so he could remain [same nationality], when a first-world life might be made available to him? Our two sons are adopted from Eastern Europe. The younger one had rickets when he came here. Look that one up if you need to. Oh, and he also had a positive response to tuberculosis exposure. He's in good health now. The older one had to have surgery on arrival and sustained an ankle injury over there so bad that it can't be repaired. That happened to him sometime between birth and age 2. He can run about half as fast as the other kids he goes to school with, but he says he's not quitting the basketball team. They were living in a state orphanage and had been since birth. The dust in here always gets worse whenever I think of their lives before they came here, so excuse me while I take care of that.

No. Not good.

Merry Christmas, everybody.

I'm with you. I adopted from Russia in 1999. We are currently living happily ever after.

Things in Russia are obviously better now than in the 90's, and the orphanage situation is less desperate than it used to be. Russia really should pull itself together and take care of its own children, and I think it is in the process of doing that.

International adoption will continue, just not from Russia. There are other places in the world where children need good homes.

I do not agree that by adopting foreign children, we are dooming American children to lives of grinding poverty. That's just plain ignorant. Usually people who adopt internationally do it because for some reason they are ineligible to adopt locally.

Merry Christmas to you too.

Why would I want to adopt a mail order bride subby?

kindms: CornerPocket: No. Not good.

Do you believe it would be better for a [nationality] child to live a life of grinding poverty just so he could remain [same nationality], when a first-world life might be made available to him? Our two sons are adopted from Eastern Europe. The younger one had rickets when he came here. Look that one up if you need to. Oh, and he also had a positive response to tuberculosis exposure. He's in good health now. The older one had to have surgery on arrival and sustained an ankle injury over there so bad that it can't be repaired. That happened to him sometime between birth and age 2. He can run about half as fast as the other kids he goes to school with, but he says he's not quitting the basketball team. They were living in a state orphanage and had been since birth. The dust in here always gets worse whenever I think of their lives before they came here, so excuse me while I take care of that.

No. Not good.

Merry Christmas, everybody.

So because you wanted white kids instead of taking care of children from right here in the US you have justified it as saving some child from half way across the world.

Good for you for adopting but you condemned a child of your own nationality to grinding poverty because your kid being white meant more than him or her being American.

No where in the previous post was race brought up or implied, but way to jump on the big ol' racism ball there Johnny, quck to pull out that slide and go discount race card aren't ya. There are plenty of "white kids"
in America who need to be adopted too but that didn't factor in to your equation did, makes me think maybe its you whose got a severe dose of racial difference inspired behavior, you just want somthing to be outraged over... do the world a favor and be quiet for a minute.

In communist Russia, kids adopt you!

Cymbal: Aren't the brides emotionally and intellectually still children too?

Part of the appeal right?

Actually, Russian and Slavic women in general have a cultural aversion to being seen as immature. They work very hard to earn respect as mature adults and tend to look down at the idea of wanting to be younger than they are. Pretty much the opposite of Western women.

DeadGeek: Why would I want to adopt a mail order bride subby?

Does this answer your question, tovarisch?

It was much easier and less expensive for us to adopt internationally. And we put an ocean and a continent between us and the birth parents.

Charles Martel: It was much easier and less expensive for us to adopt internationally. And we put an ocean and a continent between us and the birth parents.

The parents of my ex adopted two children from Russia and one from Vietnam. The Russians required a $50k payment to the government each just to be taken out of the country. That was before any other fees to the adoption agency or anyone else. Total with travel expenses it cost them close to $150k for the two children. The baby from Vietnam cost $35k.

Don't know where you heard it was cheaper internationally.

DaintySavage: Don't know where you heard it was cheaper internationally.

My bank account told me.

Mine wasn't anywhere near $150K.

letrole: chuckufarlie: They do not want their children gunned down in American Schools,

It's ok to have one or two pet issues, but you've crossed the line into obsession.

No guns here. Nothing to see. Move along now.

Oh wow, one of the most notorious pet issues troll (that is your surname right?) is complaining about pet issues folks.

I marked your post as "funny".