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(The Mercury (Australia))   "Push to get kids off ATVs". Yep, well, that's one way to do it   (themercury.com.au) divider line 73
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2012-12-26 11:22:25 AM
It's interesting how when the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgery both did studies on this, they both found that every child injured or killed on an ATV was on a full sized, or larger than recommended for their age group, and most of them were not wearing helmets at the time of their injury.

Responsible parenting is not giving a 12 year old a machine capable of going 70 miles an hour down a roadway, and able to flip on a dime.
 
2012-12-26 11:51:58 AM
BronyMedic: It's interesting how when the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgery both did studies on this, they both found that every child injured or killed on an ATV was on a full sized, or larger than recommended for their age group, and most of them were not wearing helmets at the time of their injury. with a gun deserved it.

Responsible parenting is not giving a 12 year old a machine capable of going 70 miles an hour down a roadway, and able to flip on a dime.
 
2012-12-26 11:54:04 AM
Great way to thin the rednecked herd.
And face it, they'll just grow up to be uneducated bible thumping gun and flag wavers.
Fodder for the next illegal war. I say, take the helmets off kids, and have a beer.
Cheat the gubmint out of your death early.
 
2012-12-26 11:54:34 AM

ChipNASA: BronyMedic: It's interesting how when the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgery both did studies on this, they both found that every child injured or killed on an ATV was on a full sized, or larger than recommended for their age group, and most of them were not wearing helmets at the time of their injury. with a gun deserved it.

Responsible parenting is not giving a 12 year old a machine capable of going 70 miles an hour down a roadway, and able to flip on a dime.


Does it hurt when you try and think?
 
2012-12-26 11:54:57 AM
I prefer a flying drop-kick, but whatever. So long as they're off when it's my turn.
 
2012-12-26 11:55:24 AM
Beautiful find.
 
2012-12-26 11:55:59 AM

vudukungfu: Great way to thin the rednecked herd.
And face it, they'll just grow up to be uneducated bible thumping gun and flag wavers.
Fodder for the next illegal war. I say, take the helmets off kids, and have a beer.
Cheat the gubmint out of your death early.


I'd hazard a guess that more of the injuries are from suburban weekend warriors and their spawn.
 
2012-12-26 11:57:35 AM
I managed to survive riding one that was bigger than I needed at the time.  But also I wasn't allowed to take it on the highway and the throttle stop had been set to limit my speed.
 
2012-12-26 12:01:35 PM
As a kid of about 13, I lost control of a three wheeler as it was headed for a huge cedar tree. I let off the throttle and braked it with my calves, thank goodness I was tall enough and it didn't have mudguards. My high pain tolerance saves my ass on the regular.
 
2012-12-26 12:02:33 PM

BronyMedic: Responsible parenting is not giving a 12 year old a machine capable of going 70 miles an hour down a roadway, and able to flip on a dime.


My aunt bought my cousin one but it was a child sized one,she always had to wear a helmet and she never went riding without one of my aunts. On the other hand my other aunt who took waaaaay too many psych drugs would let me ride with her,that's not a good spot on a atv whether you're 11 or an adult. Lol I remember almost falling asleep riding with her like that.
 
2012-12-26 12:04:21 PM
i49.tinypic.com

Keep Taz off ATVs!!!!1!
 
2012-12-26 12:04:34 PM

ChipNASA: BronyMedic: It's interesting how when the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgery both did studies on this, they both found that every child injured or killed on an ATV was on a full sized, or larger than recommended for their age group, and most of them were not wearing helmets at the time of their injury. with a gun deserved it.

Responsible parenting is not giving a 12 year old a machine capable of going 70 miles an hour down a roadway, and able to flip on a dime.


Are you hung over? Aren't you supposed to be posting tits from your government computer while at work thus harassing females over your shoulder, or do you use your phone?
 
2012-12-26 12:05:33 PM

vudukungfu: Great way to thin the rednecked herd.
And face it, they'll just grow up to be uneducated bible thumping gun and flag wavers.
Fodder for the next illegal war. I say, take the helmets off kids, and have a beer.
Cheat the gubmint out of your death early.


Right, because only rednecks have ATVs. Did you know that people are riding them on pavement inside city limits? There was an article a year or three ago about how this is a growing problem in Philadelphia, hardly redneck territory.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-12-26 12:05:57 PM
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2012-12-26 12:06:43 PM
Let's take up a collection and get one for Honey Boo Boo.

I'd watch that episode.
 
2012-12-26 12:06:55 PM
Only 11 deaths in a decade calls for swift nationwide ATV policy reform? The down under is really sinking low.
 
2012-12-26 12:08:51 PM
Here's another way,

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grizzlybomb.com

Tragedy + time.
 
2012-12-26 12:09:05 PM
What city-fied rednecks do:

Link
 
2012-12-26 12:11:11 PM

ChipNASA: BronyMedic: It's interesting how when the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgery both did studies on this, they both found that every child injured or killed on an ATV was on a full sized, or larger than recommended for their age group, and most of them were not wearing helmets at the time of their injury. with a gun deserved it.

Responsible parenting is not giving a 12 year old a machine capable of going 70 miles an hour down a roadway, and able to flip on a dime.


Rarely do I feel the need to remove anyone from my favorites list, but now is as good a time as any.
 
2012-12-26 12:11:14 PM

BronyMedic: It's interesting how when the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgery both did studies on this, they both found that every child injured or killed on an ATV was on a full sized, or larger than recommended for their age group, and most of them were not wearing helmets at the time of their injury.

Responsible parenting is not giving a 12 year old a machine capable of going 70 miles an hour down a roadway, and able to flip on a dime.


Maybe not, but it should be up to the parent, not the lawmakers.
 
2012-12-26 12:11:25 PM

wotthefark: Here's another way,

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[grizzlybomb.com image 760x535]

Tragedy + time.


I hope Ricky Hitler gets Walt murdered or murders him. It'd be a suitable ending for me.
 
2012-12-26 12:13:49 PM

darth_badger: Let's take up a collection and get one for Honey Boo Boo.

I'd watch that episode.


She could get a wheelchair or scooter for Mama and then get squished. Best episode ever.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-12-26 12:14:22 PM
The last three people I've interacted with in wheelchairs all were paralyzed due to ATV accidents.

/anecdotal evidence is anecdotal
 
2012-12-26 12:16:59 PM

Dr Jack Badofsky: Philadelphia, hardly redneck territory.


Trying to get me to place the race card out there?
Let's leave it at stupid, uneducated morans.
 
2012-12-26 12:18:43 PM

A Terrible Human: wotthefark: Here's another way,

[static.tvtome.com image 600x337]


[static.tvtome.com image 600x337]

[grizzlybomb.com image 760x535]

Tragedy + time.

I hope Ricky Hitler gets Walt murdered or murders him. It'd be a suitable ending for me.


Not gonna happen. Watch the "Live free or die" episode.

cdn.pastemagazine.com
 
2012-12-26 12:19:39 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: The last three people I've interacted with in wheelchairs all were paralyzed due to ATV accidents.

/anecdotal evidence is anecdotal


The Mrs. is a PT. ATVs and morons on ladders pay the mortgage.
 
2012-12-26 12:22:23 PM
I had a 200 CC 3 wheeler since I was 8 and never had any problem because my dad taught me to respect it. He never scared me with it but he did warn me it is possible to die if you fark around.

That worked really well.
 
TWX
2012-12-26 12:23:28 PM
They're generally not so dangerous when they're sized correctly and when there's an adult supervising. When I was about fourteen and my brother was twelve, Dad bought three quads, an older Honda Fourtrax 200 with five forward gears for me, a new Honda Fourtrax 200 with four forward gears for my brother, and a Suzuki Quadsport 230 for himself. We also got helmets and goggles for all three plus one for Mom, and gloves and boots. We wore denim pants and denim or leather coats depending on the weather, even though it gets warm riding in southern Arizona in the summer.

For the bulk of the years we had them, which was basically until my brother reached driving age, we rode probably three weekends in four, at least one day of the weekend, and we frequently took them up to the mountains and rode on the trails in the National Forests, or rode in the dry riverbeds, or the like. I think my brother overturned once, very low speed, basically somewhere too tilted sideways, but didn't get hurt, and that was about it. I had a fuel tank fitting problem at the top of a mountain and had to coast several miles back to the truck and trailer so that I wouldn't set myself on fire with all of the fuel that was dribbling on the engine, but that was the worst of it.

We as riders had to do our own maintenance. Oil changes, draining the carburetor after riding, plugging tire punctures, washing the mud off, replacing any lights that needed it, cleaning and lubing the chain. Only thing Dad did for all was greasing the wheel bearings since there was only the one grease gun for quad and auto maintenance and he didn't want us messing it up or wasting grease.

If parents take a responsible lead in motorsports hobbies then they can be safe. That means everything from designing the experience at the outset (ie, proper sized bikes and safety gear) to overseeing while using, to requiring participation in the cleanup and maintenance later. The number of accidents is very small when these straightforward parenting tasks are carried out.

Unfortunately it's difficult to hold parents accountable when they choose not to be, hence bans like this one that the Aussies are contemplating.
 
2012-12-26 12:25:13 PM
I rode a 200cc three-wheeler when I was a kid. I had a few accidents. I rode it into a pond twice. My brother managed to ride it up a tree and also broke his ankle rolling it. My cousin broke his wrist when the handlebars twisted out of his hands.

It might have been worse, I suppose. My dad had the throttle governed and figured out a way to keep it from shifting into third.

It certainly wasn't any more dangerous than riding horses or tractors. We drove trucks around the farm and handled guns on our own by the time we were twelve.

It was a different time back then. Danger was a part of life. It wasn't out of the question that you could lose a limb to a harvester or have a tractor roll on you and kill you. Deaths were sad, but that's why you had a lot of kids. Some weren't going to outlive you. If you were going to be a dumbass and take risks, you'd better be lucky or tough.

My great great uncle crawled under a bulldozer on the side of hill to fix a stuck transmission back in Wyoming in the 50s. It broke loose on him and dragged him over a rock and broke his back. He crawled a 1/2 mile back to the house. His wife gave him a dose of morphine and drove him 100 miles to a hospital in the back of a truck over gravel roads. He had to learn to walk again, but he managed.

/csb
 
2012-12-26 12:25:33 PM

TWX: I had a fuel tank fitting problem at the top of a mountain and had to coast several miles back to the truck and trailer so that I wouldn't set myself on fire with all of the fuel that was dribbling on the engine


Gosh.
Thanks.
 
2012-12-26 12:33:54 PM
I credit my ability to successfully drive through an over-steer from ATV-driving in my youth.
 
2012-12-26 12:34:55 PM
We've had a ban like this in the states for years. Mostly ignored.
 
2012-12-26 12:35:22 PM
What, no...

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/I think the fish hooks add a nice touch.
 
2012-12-26 12:36:27 PM
weknowmemes.com
 
2012-12-26 12:44:43 PM
I prefer to use candy to lure them off.
 
2012-12-26 12:51:23 PM
We've got a pipeline easement behind us. Lots of ATV action in the summer. A little darling lost control last summer and blasted into our fence. I called the ambulance and the cops. The responsible parent threatened to sue me because "If that fence wasn't there he'd have been able to just ride it out through your yard."
 
2012-12-26 12:52:27 PM

vudukungfu: Dr Jack Badofsky: Philadelphia, hardly redneck territory.

Trying to get me to place the race card out there?
Let's leave it at stupid, uneducated morans.


From your posts this thread, I'm going to guess you are referring to yourself.
 
2012-12-26 12:53:26 PM
I thought shoving was the answer.

/do not trust the pusher robot.
 
2012-12-26 12:55:23 PM

Huntceet: We've got a pipeline easement behind us. Lots of ATV action in the summer. A little darling lost control last summer and blasted into our fence. I called the ambulance and the cops. The responsible parent threatened to sue me because "If that fence wasn't there he'd have been able to just ride it out through your yard."


Pussy,
Take down your fence and put a wall of this around your house and that should resolve the problem.

www.sitioswebflux.com
 
2012-12-26 01:05:30 PM
FTA: Mr Shorten said 20 per cent of ATV deaths involved children under 16.

Conclusion, many more adults are killed on them than kids... Maybe we should let the kids have them and ban the adults from riding?

/tongue firmly planted in cheek
 
2012-12-26 01:05:40 PM
When I started riding motorcycles I couldn't even touch the ground from the seat of a little Honda Trail 70. Someone had to hold it when I started and catch me when I stopped. Fun times, probably some of the best memories in my life.

Some kids are not cut out for it though because either their natural instincts suck or they have not had proper training.
 
2012-12-26 01:06:09 PM
Most 12 year olds on farms are driving cars, trucks and tractors by the time they are 12.

Bush hog - A-Ok

ATV - O Noooes...
 
2012-12-26 01:08:04 PM
When I'm dictator of the universe, there will be no ATVs, snowmobiles or jet skis. And anyone who wants to have kids will have to pass a stringent parenting class first (mandatory birth control for everyone else).

/I'll be cruel, but fair
 
2012-12-26 01:08:11 PM
We grew up riding MX and my son rides as well, but we have enough safety equipment and traning/experience/respect to help minimize injuries.

Won't touch a quad, even in full gear. Thise things are dangerous as hell. The problem is the weight and their tendency to land on the rider.... That and the parents foolishly thinking four wheels are safer than two and not requiring shizzloads of safety gear.
 
2012-12-26 01:09:21 PM

vudukungfu: Dr Jack Badofsky: Philadelphia, hardly redneck territory.

Trying to get me to place the race card out there?
Let's leave it at stupid, uneducated morans.


Not at all. Just saying that ATVs span other walks of life than rednecks. Hell, Ozzy Ozbourne has at least a Yamaha Banshee (that he did, unfortunately fall off of).
 
2012-12-26 01:15:42 PM

Huntceet: We've got a pipeline easement behind us. Lots of ATV action in the summer. A little darling lost control last summer and blasted into our fence. I called the ambulance and the cops. The responsible parent threatened to sue me because "If that fence wasn't there he'd have been able to just ride it out through your yard."


I had a problem with kids on my lawn. I didn't have the funds for a fence, so I planted 17 rose bushes.

I'd suspect a thicket of brambles or roses (moss roses have the most thorns) would be a nice solution. Good solid shrubs can also cushion the impact. Of coure the kid has to get out of the vehicle, which is when you pull out your cell phone camera and a box of popcorn.
 
2012-12-26 01:22:59 PM

paulleah: We grew up riding MX and my son rides as well, but we have enough safety equipment and traning/experience/respect to help minimize injuries.
Won't touch a quad, even in full gear. Thise things are dangerous as hell. The problem is the weight and their tendency to land on the rider.... That and the parents foolishly thinking four wheels are safer than two and not requiring shizzloads of safety gear.


I think the 4-wheelers are more dangerous too. We had a little Honda motorbike when I was young. Tons of fun. Sure, we wrecked sometimes--I tore myself up pretty good once when I wiped out on a paved road. But I never felt like I was on something that would easily go out of control.

Now, those ATVs. I hate the sumbiatches. I've had to use them for work, and you can drive one on a light sidehill and tip the damn thing right over. They're very powerful, they give you an illusion of complete safety, since they're so big and you just sit on them like a chair, but they are not stable at all, unless you're only using them on the same roads you drive your car on. It's easy as hell to fly off the top or side of one, just by hitting a tiny bump.
 
2012-12-26 01:29:07 PM
So WTF was that fetus memory box thing about? Why was it deleted? Did it piss off a mod? Is BronyMedic a mod who takes editing privileges? Is ultrasound NSFW?

I has confuse.
 
2012-12-26 01:40:18 PM
I was completely shocked Australia still allows the import of ATV's. Since Liberal pansies have taken over that country I really didn't think they had an ounce of testosterone in all the territories. Now don't forget your helmet mate!!!

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2012-12-26 01:41:54 PM

NannyStatePark: So WTF was that fetus memory box thing about? Why was it deleted? Did it piss off a mod? Is BronyMedic a mod who takes editing privileges? Is ultrasound NSFW?

I has confuse.


Oh now they apparently think that babbyQuinn reference is a little too recent to Newtown, is my guess.
 
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