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(Daily Mail)   The EU is requiring a warning label be placed on __________ to give notice that toddlers can choke on them. A) Marbles. B) Lego pieces. C) Soccer balls   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 93
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2012-12-25 11:51:53 PM  
25 inches? Who the fark came up with that standard? Sasha Grey??
 
2012-12-26 12:03:23 AM  
shiat Ian, it's a Spalding.  He's serious.
 
2012-12-26 12:09:16 AM  
Can they be deflated and if so to what size?
 
2012-12-26 12:11:02 AM  
I'd bet this would make sense if a journalist had been involved and asked why the rule exists. But, it's the fail.
 
2012-12-26 12:11:31 AM  
Yes, but only on the soccer balls used by Wigan.
 
2012-12-26 12:13:09 AM  
European children have very large mouths.
 
2012-12-26 12:13:51 AM  
Did Europeans start breeding with snakes or something? How the hell is a toddler gonna choke on a soccer ball?

/be smothered by a deflated soccer ball, I can understand, but this...
 
2012-12-26 12:13:59 AM  
Wilson!
 
2012-12-26 12:14:08 AM  

12349876: Can they be deflated and if so to what size?


If the ball is thrown into a wood chipper it could potentially choke an entire classroom. The warning is warranted.
 
2012-12-26 12:19:49 AM  
If soccer balls actually choked their adult users the world would be a better place
 
2012-12-26 12:21:34 AM  
They likely just use the US standards
 
2012-12-26 12:22:18 AM  
The 'choking hazard' label is often a catch-all that includes suffocation. My heavy duty construction garbage bags are practically impossible to swallow by any normal human, but they have a choking hazard warning on the box and on each bag. And I'm sure a deflated ball could suffocate a child just as easily as a garbage bag.
 
2012-12-26 12:23:12 AM  
Welcome to Obama's America.

/Really? I'm the first?
 
2012-12-26 12:24:59 AM  

davidphogan: I'd bet this would make sense if a journalist had been involved and asked why the rule exists. But, it's the fail.


I Googled but couldn't find much more info. "Football choking hazard" brings up two other articles from October. The comment from Bellco is included in both:

Irish manufacturer Bellco Sports has defended the warning, claiming it is required under by EU health and safety laws.

Right now my money's on this company simply misunderstanding the rule. Maybe they're confusing centimeters with inches? A 25 inch standard doesn't make much sense for countries who all use the metric system.
 
2012-12-26 12:27:19 AM  
Perhaps they use Canadian inch standard ?
 
2012-12-26 12:28:17 AM  
"Bocce balls!"
 
2012-12-26 12:29:10 AM  

fusillade762: I Googled but couldn't find much more info. "Football choking hazard" brings up two other articles from October. The comment from Bellco is included in both:


In other words, rather than "The EU is requiring..." it's "Some deranged Irish manufacturer claims that the EU is requiring, and nobody else thinks that."

Best guess: the manufacturer makes a lot of other toys that really do match the EU choking hazard standard, and some lazy bugger in the graphics department copied it into the packaging for this one. Rather than admit they'd screwed up, they decided to blame it on the EU, because after all, the Daily Fail will always believe anything you tell them that makes the EU look bad.
 
2012-12-26 12:29:37 AM  

The EU policy makers need to have a word with our friends across the pond... Those assault rifles are a definite choking hazard
- Tom , Essex, 26/12/2012 03:59


Lolz....
 
2012-12-26 12:30:51 AM  
Just unhinge the jaw
 
2012-12-26 12:31:25 AM  

fusillade762: Right now my money's on this company simply misunderstanding the rule. Maybe they're confusing centimeters with inches? A 25 inch standard doesn't make much sense for countries who all use the metric system.


25cm is still nearly a foot.

25mm is where it gets reasonable.
 
2012-12-26 12:33:46 AM  
Perhaps if any farkers who've choked on some balls in the past would come forward with their stories we'de stand a better chance of understanding this thing.
 
2012-12-26 12:36:37 AM  
Just imagine the poor woman who has to call up a sporting goods store and tell the owner that his balls are a choking hazard.
 
2012-12-26 12:38:10 AM  

Porous Horace: Perhaps if any farkers who've choked on some balls in the past would come forward with their stories we'de stand a better chance of understanding this thing.


aargh.... once again I remind myself I must hit refresh before making the obvious joke.
 
2012-12-26 12:38:12 AM  

fusillade762: davidphogan: I'd bet this would make sense if a journalist had been involved and asked why the rule exists. But, it's the fail.

I Googled but couldn't find much more info. "Football choking hazard" brings up two other articles from October. The comment from Bellco is included in both:

Irish manufacturer Bellco Sports has defended the warning, claiming it is required under by EU health and safety laws.

Right now my money's on this company simply misunderstanding the rule. Maybe they're confusing centimeters with inches? A 25 inch standard doesn't make much sense for countries who all use the metric system.


My guess was that the plug to keep air in was a choking hazard, but why fix the problem if you can blame someone else?
 
2012-12-26 12:38:21 AM  
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/toys/files/tsd_explanatory_guid ance_document_en.pdf

This would be the entire EU Toy Safety Directive. There is no specification for the size of an object required for a choking warning, and the only time the number 25 is used for a size, it has nothing to do with choking.
 
2012-12-26 12:40:53 AM  
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:170:00 01:0037:EN:PDF

Apologies, that was an explanation of the directive, this is the directive. The word choking exists only once, and has no relation to a size. The number "25" is never used for a size.
 
2012-12-26 12:42:30 AM  
The only living thing I could find that choked on a soccer ball was a farking catfish, and I have my suspicions about that:

Link
 
2012-12-26 12:43:17 AM  

davidphogan: I'd bet this would make sense if a journalist had been involved and asked why the rule exists. But, it's the fail.


Yep. The story is a lie.

This is how the Daily Fail riles up their readers. They publish a story that is mostly a lie and feeds an existing perception of their readership. In this case, the perception that government is worthless and makes regulations just to make regulations.

As others have found, it was the ball manufacturer, not the EU that very probably made the mistake.

Reporting that a private company put the wrong label on their products wouldn't feed the Daily Fail's dogma of blaming government for everything. So the Fail blame the EU. Fark then greenlights yet another Daily Fail "Government is bad" lie, again.

/are all the mods "Fark Independents"?
 
2012-12-26 12:43:57 AM  
Directive 2009/48/EC

Blasted links. Work!
 
2012-12-26 12:46:59 AM  

Ehcks: fusillade762: Right now my money's on this company simply misunderstanding the rule. Maybe they're confusing centimeters with inches? A 25 inch standard doesn't make much sense for countries who all use the metric system.

25cm is still nearly a foot.

25mm is where it gets reasonable.


25cm is less than 10 inches. 25mm is less than an inch, which seems a tad on the small side, but who knows.
 
2012-12-26 12:47:17 AM  

RandomRandom: This is how the Daily Fail riles up their readers. They publish a story that is mostly a lie and feeds an existing perception of their readership. In this case, the perception that government is worthless and makes regulations just to make regulations.


And the people who would believe it never do their research. The people who would do the research have probably done so before and already don't believe it.
 
2012-12-26 12:51:28 AM  
Far better article on that page, especially if you are nostalgic for those days where National Geographic was your own personal Red Tube

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252955/Rape-provoking-minis ki rts-crop-tops-banned-king-Swaziland-offenders-facing-months-jail.html? ICO=most_read_module

(Not safe for work)
 
2012-12-26 12:54:58 AM  
People complain about excessive lawsuits, then when something like this label thing happens, there's complaints about that. Myself, I'll take the labels over some lawyer making a fast buck over any kind of stupid case involving soccer balls.
 
2012-12-26 12:59:31 AM  
There should be no warnings, on anything. The more people who die off the better the world becomes. If they are old enough to understand then they were too stupid to live. If they are too young then they have not yet contributed anything to society so it is no big loss.
 
2012-12-26 01:00:24 AM  

Ehcks: Directive 2009/48/EC

Blasted links. Work!


Ah, nice find. Here's a link directly to the relevant document.

I don't see ANYTHING in there regarding hard and fast size limits for toys. There's something in there about a "small ball test" with a picture, but I have no clue what it means.

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-26 01:12:51 AM  
No one cares.
 
2012-12-26 01:13:34 AM  
if that's millimeters that would be less than 2 inches across.
 
2012-12-26 01:13:57 AM  
organized bullshiat
 
2012-12-26 01:14:48 AM  
freedom
 
2012-12-26 01:16:17 AM  
CCTVs
 
2012-12-26 01:20:45 AM  
Big Fat American Pride Balls
 
2012-12-26 01:23:26 AM  
One of the comments: "Welcome to the world of crazy. We have crayons."

I am out of crayons...
 
2012-12-26 01:26:12 AM  
If anyone wants to see where soccer balls would pretty much be excluded from having to carry a warning label, it's right here:

ANNEX II
PARTICULAR SAFETY REQUIREMENTS
I. Physical and Mechanical Properties...
3. Toys must be designed and manufactured in such a way as not to present any risk or only the minimum risk
inherent to their use which could be caused by the movement of their parts.
4. (a) Toys and their parts must not present a risk of strangulation.
(b) Toys and their parts must not present a risk of asphyxiation by closing off the flow of air as a result of
airway obstruction external to the mouth and nose.
(c) Toys and their parts must be of such dimensions as to not present a risk of asphyxiation by closing off the
flow of air as a result of internal airway obstruction by objects wedged in the mouth or pharynx or lodged
over the entrance to the lower airways.


I think a soccer ball is going to fit under Annex II, Part 1, No. 4(c).
 
2012-12-26 01:31:06 AM  
Warning: do not taunt happy fun soccer ball.
 
2012-12-26 01:33:33 AM  
Oooh oooh! Are we playing Cards Against Humanity?
Hmm, I play... Anal beads!
 
2012-12-26 01:55:40 AM  
The hazard is all the dick they will choke on because soccer is gay.

/Murican
 
2012-12-26 02:08:47 AM  

Gawdzila: Oooh oooh! Are we playing Cards Against Humanity?
Hmm, I play... Anal beads!


Kids with Ass Cancer
 
2012-12-26 02:12:22 AM  
fusillade762
I don't see ANYTHING in there regarding hard and fast size limits for toys. There's something in there about a "small ball test" with a picture, but I have no clue what it means.


The dimensions are millimeters and as far as I can tell, you can use that drawing as a template to cut a circular hole of the given size into some firm plate and if a ball falls through, it's too small.
 
2012-12-26 02:34:22 AM  
That's from an older version (EN71-1:1998) instead of 2011:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-26 02:41:31 AM  
Wait until they find out these are outside.
4.bp.blogspot.com

/the horror
 
BHK
2012-12-26 02:44:43 AM  
Considering that your average inflated football has more matter inside it than the head of the average politician or bureaucrat, this comes as no surprise.
 
2012-12-26 03:01:43 AM  

The Voice of Doom: That's from an older version (EN71-1:1998) instead of 2011:

[i.imgur.com image 579x529]


So, 44.5 mm, but a company is too stupid to figure that out even though they do business using the metric system, and the Daily Fail repeats it.

It's all going according to plan?
 
2012-12-26 04:26:27 AM  

fusillade762: 25 inches? Who the fark came up with that standard? Sasha Grey??


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+2 internets for that post.
 
2012-12-26 04:43:04 AM  
The Daily Mail must count its blessed stars for the EU. The EU has so many rules and directives which make perfect sense in their original context which the Mail can distort for their own ends.
 
2012-12-26 04:49:47 AM  
Daily Mail - beating off eurofascists since 1930's
 
2012-12-26 04:58:09 AM  

BigJake: If soccer balls actually choked their adult users the world would be a better place


The UK would be a much quieter place, and I'm OK with that.

We piss away a huge quantity of money on that stupid farking sport, we use it as a tribalism focus (Glasgow Rangers v Glasgow Celtic). Domestic Violence incidents shoot up after "old firm" games, Our children see these twats that can kick a ball about as heroes, despite the fact that most "footballers" are thicker than two short planks nailed together and produce nothing of any value.

farking idiotic game, I hate it.
 
2012-12-26 05:06:29 AM  

fusillade762: davidphogan: I'd bet this would make sense if a journalist had been involved and asked why the rule exists. But, it's the fail.

I Googled but couldn't find much more info. "Football choking hazard" brings up two other articles from October. The comment from Bellco is included in both:

Irish manufacturer Bellco Sports has defended the warning, claiming it is required under by EU health and safety laws.

Right now my money's on this company simply misunderstanding the rule. Maybe they're confusing centimeters with inches? A 25 inch standard doesn't make much sense for countries who all use the metric system.


The EU definitely has a rule about
 
2012-12-26 05:14:25 AM  
Gah stupid firefox for android cut my comment in half. Anyway was going to say there is a 44.5mm rule so maybe the football maker cannot understand basic dimensions and the Mail doesn't have the integrity to care. Oh and sports kit is exempt from displaying the 0-3 warning as are toys obviously meant for older children. So fail all around.
 
2012-12-26 05:40:03 AM  
More than 44.5 mm.

home.earthlink.net

Less than a football.
 
2012-12-26 05:50:48 AM  
It's for the children!
 
2012-12-26 05:58:35 AM  
The Stupid tag should always accompany Daily Fail articles.
 
2012-12-26 06:09:47 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-26 06:20:08 AM  

DuncanMhor: The UK would be a much quieter place, and I'm OK with that.

We piss away a huge quantity of money on that stupid farking sport, we use it as a tribalism focus (Glasgow Rangers v Glasgow Celtic). Domestic Violence incidents shoot up after "old firm" games, Our children see these twats that can kick a ball about as heroes, despite the fact that most "footballers" are thicker than two short planks nailed together and produce nothing of any value.

farking idiotic game, I hate it.


Tell us how you really feel.
 
2012-12-26 06:31:57 AM  

drxym: The Daily Mail must count its blessed stars for the EU. The EU has so many rules and directives which make perfect sense in their original context which the Mail can distort for their own ends.


Now the EU does have some stupid rules but the Mail distorts the little stuff so the writers (not journalists, that needs more than just Word) can just copy and paste the same crap and just change a quote and the outrage.

For example the new motorcycle testing regime is utterly stupid and counter productive but that would need intelligence and knowledge. The new super MOT is another pointless bit of meddling but again needs knowledge of the subject and an intelligence that the writers at the Mail have.

The Daily Mail was founded to be pro-empire, pro-military and anti-foreigner. It keeps the tradition alive.
 
2012-12-26 06:33:40 AM  
WARNING: TODDLERS CAN CHOKE ON AUTOMOBILES AND WATERMELONS
 
2012-12-26 06:44:48 AM  

Jesda: WARNING: TODDLERS CAN CHOKE ON AUTOMOBILES AND WATERMELONS


Happy Fun Ball may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.
 
2012-12-26 06:54:20 AM  
 
2012-12-26 07:28:15 AM  
Buckyballs were just the beginning. Pretty soon it will be yoga balls.

What is it that the powers that be have against spherical objects?

Are they actualy aliens whose only weakness are things that are round?

/probably ban subby's mom next.
 
2012-12-26 07:41:33 AM  
i280.photobucket.com

One choking hazard you can't have.

EU common sense prevails
 
2012-12-26 07:53:14 AM  
Once again. Idiot foreigners.
 
2012-12-26 08:35:20 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

The "Daily Fail" has somewhat of a "fatwa" against 'elf and safety  - just do a bit of creative googling..

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=elf+and+safety+da il y+mail&oq=%22%27elf+and+safety%22&gs_l=serp.1.2.0l4.8418.22083.0.25556 .20.19.1.0.0.0.129.1967.8j11.19.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.MSV-eg_kQEc&pbx=1 &bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=1585625df7f66034&bpcl=40096503&biw=119 5&bih=683

About 562,000 results!

Most are "move along nothing to see here",,


CSB - The cleaners in my office (local authority, Norwich, UK) aren't allowed to use cleaning products, not even in the toilets. Because health and safety. Water and elbow grease only. This is presumably why the toilets smell like a bible story. That and the old men that work there.
 
2012-12-26 08:54:35 AM  

davidphogan: I'd bet this would make sense if a journalist had been involved and asked why the rule exists. But, it's the fail.


This is an article from the U.K., so making sense would defeat the anti EU purpose.

/me hopes the U.K. will leave the EU, and take those farking Irish with them.
 
2012-12-26 08:55:45 AM  
When I was 12, I had a little brother 5 who got into my stash of soccer balls. When I found him he was blue and had somehow gotten an entire soccer ball into his esophagus. It was the most horrifying thing I've ever seen. To this day my mother doesn't talk to me about it. It destroyed our family.
 
2012-12-26 09:08:02 AM  
...

You know one thing that lazy companies do. They write choking hazard on /all/ their toys, and "may contain nuts" on /all/ their food products.

That way they don't have to think/test anything.

I'm surprised that their ball is actually round.

i993.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-26 09:08:28 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: When I was 12, I had a little brother 5 who got into my stash of soccer balls. When I found him he was blue and had somehow gotten an entire soccer ball into his esophagus. It was the most horrifying thing I've ever seen. To this day my mother doesn't talk to me about it. It destroyed our family.


It's probably for the best then.
 
2012-12-26 09:08:38 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: It destroyed our family.


i am truley sorry for your lots.
 
2012-12-26 09:25:45 AM  
Another European Union achievement!

\What if they are made near a peanut processing plant?
 
2012-12-26 09:25:54 AM  

Makh: shiat Ian, it's a Spalding.  He's serious.


"We're the hooligans...."

*Klunk*
 
2012-12-26 09:29:04 AM  
No wonder they needed us to save them in two World Wars and protect them from the Soviet Union. Of course we are rapidly reaching the point where we will not even be able to protect ourselves.


i2.mirror.co.uk

www.courtneyluv.com

www.bestwayguides.com
 
2012-12-26 10:08:45 AM  
Do the balls come with the little needle do-hickey to refill them? Perhaps that is the choking hazard?
 
2012-12-26 10:19:09 AM  

skodabunny:

CSB - The cleaners in my office (local authority, Norwich, UK) aren't allowed to use cleaning products, not even in the toilets. Because health and safety. Water and elbow grease only. This is presumably why the toilets smell like a bible story. That and the old men that work there.


It's political correctness gone mad
 
2012-12-26 10:33:57 AM  
i294.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-26 10:54:17 AM  

The Voice of Doom: That's from an older version (EN71-1:1998) instead of 2011:

[i.imgur.com image 579x529]


i.imgur.com
/I'm so very sorry
 
2012-12-26 11:20:28 AM  
The entire team of Aston Villa choked on a football recently see: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/tom-ross-on-chelseas-8- 0-thrashing-386335
 
2012-12-26 11:22:09 AM  

Hobo Jr.: The hazard is all the dick they will choke on because soccer is gay.

/Murican


Ha!

+1
 
2012-12-26 11:37:53 AM  
Yet another anti-EU piece from the Daily Mail that won't hold up under scrutiny. You can safely bet your last euro/dollar on this story being false.
 
2012-12-26 01:11:15 PM  
The EU is requiring a warning label be placed on --- Priests? ---- to give notice that toddlers can choke on them.
 
2012-12-26 01:19:20 PM  
Mail BS.

You'll notice it's written by "Daily Mail Reporter", which is what they use when not even Mail writers are prepared to put their name to it.
 
2012-12-26 01:47:47 PM  
Maybe for my sister's mother in law with her big mouth...
 
2012-12-26 03:54:43 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: Wait until they find out these are outside.
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 800x600]

/the horror


every one of those choking hazards need to be labeled.
 
2012-12-26 05:01:23 PM  

LewDux: skodabunny:

CSB - The cleaners in my office (local authority, Norwich, UK) aren't allowed to use cleaning products, not even in the toilets. Because health and safety. Water and elbow grease only. This is presumably why the toilets smell like a bible story. That and the old men that work there.

It's political correctness gone mad


I too work in a local authority in Norwich and the cleaners do use bleach and other chemicals. The COSHH regulations only require that employers make sure the staff know how to use the chemicals safely, how dangerous they are and what to do when exposed to them. For bleach it means just reading the blooming label. Its not hard

/Unless they are the City Council
//They are pants on the head retarded
 
2012-12-26 05:43:04 PM  

RoyBatty: Far better article on that page, especially if you are nostalgic for those days where National Geographic was your own personal Red Tube

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252955/Rape-provoking-minis ki rts-crop-tops-banned-king-Swaziland-offenders-facing-months-jail.html? ICO=most_read_module

(Not safe for work)


Delicious Nubian babes.
 
2012-12-26 09:56:54 PM  

Frankenstorm: Wilson!


Wilson was a volleyball, you silly tart
 
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