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(NYPost)   Paging Rev. Al Sharpton: Twenty-five years after a teenage Tawana Brawley falsely dragged his name through the mud as a gang-raping, kidnapping racist, it's payback time for Steven Pagones. Seeking to garnish her wages within the next couple of weeks   (nypost.com) divider line 119
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2012-12-25 04:22:22 PM
17 votes:
People who make false rape accusations are a special kind of shiatty.
2012-12-25 04:20:10 PM
10 votes:
Pay attention, Zimmerman.
2012-12-25 04:13:48 PM
7 votes:
Too bad he can't hit Big Al up and take it all
2012-12-25 04:23:05 PM
6 votes:

Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

Interest. Also, she is the only one who isn't a lawyer or can afford a good one.


I'm not as inclined to feel as much disdain for her as I am for Al Sharpton.  It's clear she made the story up to cover something up, and it was Sharpton and his scumbag buddies who turned it into what it became.  I don't think that was her intention at all.

Of course, she had the power to end it at any time.
2012-12-25 04:12:19 PM
6 votes:
can't say as i blame the guy. Especially since she has never apologized or cleared the record.
2012-12-25 04:31:07 PM
5 votes:
Easy to guess, but unable to be sure the type of advice, encoragement, brainwashing that Sharpton and others pushed onto her. She was only 15, but surely old enough to understand wrong from right.
It was her that initiated the situation. So ultimetly it was up to her to end the farce that it was. Not that it would have been easy for her to throw off the pressure. Still, it started with her, and she should bare the brunt of the penilties for it.
Sharpton and other should do the right thing and admitt their part in fanning the flames, and pitch in to set things right. But they won't, its not in their nature to admitt fault. That would mean they would have to admitt that they are as racist, if not more so, than those they accused
2012-12-25 04:39:02 PM
4 votes:
So, this Pagones guy, he was a Lacrosse player at Duke, right? Or was that a different claim of gang rape that everyone believed initially, that turned out to be total crap?

You'd think after the Brawley incident that people would learn that sometimes, it's best to reserve your outrage until there's actual proof of something to be outraged about.

In my career I've taken probably....50 initial reports from people of all genders, races, ages, etc who have alleged sexual abuse. I'd be surprised if half of those turned out to be true. The number of people who claim that a parent is molesting them, or the number of teenage girls who claim to be raped to cover up consenual sex with a boyfriend or girlfriend is STAGGERING. Makes you wonder how somebody can intentionally ruin somebody's life to avoid being grounded for a few months.
2012-12-25 04:35:57 PM
4 votes:
Whether he paid the penalty or not, it's a real disgrace that Sharpton continues to enjoy ANY media credibility. He has a show on MSNBC and was on Fox way too many times for my liking. He should be in hiding along with Tawana.
2012-12-25 04:32:02 PM
4 votes:

KiwDaWabbit: People who make false rape accusations are a special kind of shiatty.


I believe they should receive the same punishment as an actual rapist.
2012-12-25 04:28:54 PM
4 votes:
I remember the case quite well, and was not surprised when it came out she had lied. However, I don't recall the media reporting the defamation judgments at all -- unlike their rabid coverage of the original story. In any case, any monies he gets will unlikely make up for losing his job as prosecutor and the crap he had to deal with because she lied so her mama wouldn't whip her arse for whoring around.
2012-12-25 04:26:31 PM
4 votes:
Off Topic: Rev. Al Sharpton was "ordained" at the age of ten and doesn't actually have any religious training.
2012-12-25 04:25:14 PM
4 votes:
Why wasn't she prosecuted for making false statements? Is perjury not a crime in US criminal cases?

/ I know it's legal to lie in a civil writ, at least in CA, as I've been on the receiving end
2012-12-25 04:19:28 PM
4 votes:
Good. Make her little lying ass pay up!
2012-12-25 04:18:59 PM
4 votes:
Can he also go after Spike Lee for reinforcing the lie that Twana told the truth?
2012-12-26 08:38:45 AM
3 votes:

Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"


Actually, if they child is taken away from her by social services and placed with a decent foster family, *THEN* it will be justice, and everybody wins: Tawana pays for her crimes, Pagano gets some restitution, and Tawana's child doesn't get raised by a liar with no sense of right and wrong.
2012-12-25 09:49:17 PM
3 votes:
Wow, a prosecutor wants recompense for the enduring pain of being falsely accused of a crime. If only he could convert irony to dollars, he'd be paid in full.
2012-12-25 06:44:42 PM
3 votes:
Rev Al better not cough up too much money over Tawana Brawley....because he is going to have his a## in a major sling after George Zimmerman is done with his Jheri Curl. With Sharpton lying about the crime (Trayvon Martin assaulted Zimmerman...that is FACT)...and appearing with the Black Ku Klux Klan (New Black Panthers) handing out "Wanted Dead or Alive" posters...Sharpton is gonna need some help.
2012-12-25 04:55:01 PM
3 votes:

JasonKY: I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.


Or as you grow into an adult you would apologize for the sins of your youth, because you would realize that you were wrong, and maybe this man whose life you ruined would forgive you.  But no, you change your name and get outta town...

No accountability is a huge problem in our nation, from the top to the bottom.
2012-12-25 04:51:53 PM
3 votes:
I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.
2012-12-25 04:35:47 PM
3 votes:
I hope the guy gets every cent owed him though I think sharpton should have had a bigger judgement against him. He was the one with the soapbox who really perpetuated the lie.

Did he ever get sued for the duke lacross lie? If so, did he have a judgement against him?
2012-12-25 04:35:11 PM
3 votes:

thatboyoverthere: Phoenix_M: Off Topic: Rev. Al Sharpton was "ordained" at the age of ten and doesn't actually have any religious training.

Hell I'm ordained from the internet. Maybe I should change my name to thatpriestoverthere?


You have as legit a right to call yourself "Reverend" as Al Sharpton does, go for it.
2012-12-25 04:31:08 PM
3 votes:

ClavellBCMI: jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

And Al paid up damn quick, to get it behind him.


FTFA: Sharpton paid his $66,000 judgment to Pagones, with help from OJ Simpson lawyer Johnnie Cochran and others.

More than likely, Reverend Slimy never paid a cent, he had his wealthy friends pay the penalty, just as he has others pay for everything else. Slimeball.
2012-12-26 03:14:44 PM
2 votes:

Orange-Pippin: the ha ha guy: Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"
She was ordered by the court to pay her victim. She refused that order and went into hiding. If her debt is forgiven, if she is essentially rewarded for defying the government, how is that "justice"?

If she had owned up to it when she still had supporters, chances are she wouldn't have had to pay a dime out of her own pocket. Instead, she and her family stuck with the attitude that they should be the ones getting paid instead of the victim, and she purposely violated the courts by going into hiding rather than pay her debt.

She had the opportunity to put this behind her and move on. Instead, she committed other crimes, and now has to pay the price for those crimes as well as the original accusation.

Late response (sorry)

Punishing an innocent (the kid) to teach someone a lesson for a character defamation that happened 25 years ago is hardly the right thing to do. If the victim of this blemish cared that much about her character, he would demand community service or something else to help others. I just can't see any good coming out of this.



She and her family are actively campaigning, today, to re-open the criminal case against the victim.

If she had put it behind her 25 years ago, I'd probably agree, but she is actively continuing to proclaim his guilt, she is actively trying to put him in jail for something that a grand jury has already determined he did not do.

If she were to put it behind her, the guy probably would too. But why should this guy forgive someone who has spent the last 25 years trying to ruin his life?
2012-12-26 11:47:27 AM
2 votes:

Phoenix_M: Off Topic: Rev. Al Sharpton was "ordained" at the age of ten and doesn't actually have any religious training.


That part I'm ok with. The idea of "religious training" makes a liberal arts education sound like an engineering program at MIT. Ordaining a ten year old who then goes on to be better known as a minister than the vast majority of "trained" preachers, priests and pastors just serves to show how silly the idea of a professional clergy really is.
2012-12-26 11:05:51 AM
2 votes:

Oh_Enough_Already: Holding black people legally accountable for their actions is racist!


Dude, you have exactly zero credibility when it comes to calling out racism

pictat.com
2012-12-26 02:25:30 AM
2 votes:

ElBarto79: Man if you read some of the details of this case it's hard not to feel sorry for the girl. Her parents were both abusive, her stepfather beat and murdered his first wife. She came up with this lie to avoid being beaten. Imagine how terrified she must have been that rubbing shiat all over herself was better than facing her parents.

Once Sharpton and his cronies came into the picture she became a pawn. Yea sure she could have told the truth, but that would have meant facing the wrath of not only her parents but Sharpton and everyone else involved. I'm sure they probably told her not to worry about anything, that it would all be fine and she was going to get a lot of money when it was finished.

Now she's had to live a life in hiding to try and escape this. If she pays the garnishment of 700 a month she will never pay off this debt because the interest alone is more than that. It would be nice if the guy could cut a deal with her to make a public apology and clear all or most of the judgement. Honestly I don't think she should owe a dime, she made up the rape allegation but it was Sharpton who pointed the finger at this guy, not her.


It is sad, but what stopped her from admitting it was BS and apologizing in the years since??
2012-12-25 11:15:03 PM
2 votes:
"Much of the grand jury evidence pointed to a possible motive for Brawley's falsifying the incident: trying to avoid violent punishment from her mother and her stepfather Ralph King. Witnesses testified that Glenda Brawley had previously beaten her daughter for running away and for spending nights with boys. King had a history of violence that included stabbing his first wife 14 times, later shooting and killing her. There was considerable evidence that King could and would violently attack Brawley: when Brawley had been arrested on a shoplifting charge the previous May, King attempted to beat her for the offense while at the police station. Witnesses have also described King as having talked about his stepdaughter in a sexualized manner.[20] On the day of her alleged disappearance, Brawley had skipped school to visit boyfriend Todd Buxton, who was serving a six-month jail sentence. When Buxton's mother (with whom she had visited Buxton in jail) urged her to get home before she got in trouble, Brawley told her, "I'm already in trouble." She described how angry Ralph King was over a previous incident of her staying out late.[21]"

Wikipedia
2012-12-25 10:35:05 PM
2 votes:

wjmorris3: KimNorth: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"

How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.

They ruled in favor of the man as opposed to the woman, which is classic misogyny. After all, true human beings have two X chromosomes so...


You started off well, but then you took it to self-parody waaaayyyyy too fast.
2012-12-25 10:01:45 PM
2 votes:

Warlordtrooper: This assumes that 429k is the actual damages.

I have a hard time to believe that is anything other than RIAA math.



One of my friends was falsely accused of stealing a car a few years ago (someone else admitted to it before he went to trial). Between the lawyer fees, being fired from his job, overdraft fees from having no income, years of being refused for any job that pays more than minimum wage, and jumping through all the hoops to expunge his record, I'm confident that his actual damages are at least $100k. That's for a relatively minor crime, which wasn't even covered in the town paper.

This guy was accused of gang-rape and kidnapping, and he was vilified in the national media. So yeah, I'm sure his actual damages might be slightly higher than someone who had no media coverage and never even went to trial.
2012-12-25 09:38:20 PM
2 votes:

WelldeadLink: JasonKY: On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

People who can't afford to have children should...


Let me fix that for you

People who owe debts starting back 25 years should pay those up before 15 years later deciding to have a child.
2012-12-25 08:18:47 PM
2 votes:

maggoo: ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge. Some people need to learn how to let things go.

It's kind of hard to let go petty little things, such as completely farking up a man's life.


It also needs to be pointed out that it sounds very much as if this guy would drop the whole thing if she would just cop to the truth.
2012-12-25 07:52:15 PM
2 votes:
I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?
2012-12-25 07:42:28 PM
2 votes:
I spent some of my cub-reporter days covering the Brawley circus, so I am really getting a kick etc.

The other two sonsabiatches whose names you are looking for are Sharpton's one-time cohorts Alton Maddox Jr. and C. Vernon Mason. These two make Sharpton look like Mitt Romney.

These days Maddox, having calmed down somewhat from the days when he'd think nothing of Godwinning himself five times a day while accusing the state attorney general of fapping to pictures of Tawana (yes, really), still makes a steady living as a semi-professional celebrity race card player of the Cynthia McKinney ilk, while Mason after being disbarred for professional misconduct is weaseling his way back into the good graces of the NYC Democratic party. Far as I know, they have NOT paid the judgments against them in the case which come to about $270,000.

CSB: about fifteen years ago one of my colleagues was covering the endless proceedings in the slander case, and during a break in proceedings she asked the NY Times reporter next to her to save her seat while she went to the ladies' room. Over comes one of the Sharpton-Maddox-Mason entourage demanding the seat, and when the Times reporter explained it was duly reserved, in the goon started with the usual Professionally Outraged Black Person wharr before stomping off. Then my African-American colleague returned to her seat. /CSB (and it made the Times)
2012-12-25 07:28:59 PM
2 votes:
She's one of the big reasons many actual rape victims were afraid to come forward until news sources were forbidden to air their names. For that alone Brawley is destined for hell. But it gets worse when you realize anonymous accusations have enabled more Tawana Brawleys, on bigger fish. Yet, people still call Ben Roethlisberger Rapey Ben, but at least he's still making his millions, and there are still people who think Kobe Bryant raped a woman in Colorado, but again, he's still making his millions. And it's a damned good thing they didn't blare the names of the Duke lacrosse players accused of rape across the airwaves; they at least got theirs back (and their accuser is about to go on trial for murder). This problem will probably persist until people stop overreacting to big crimes in general, especially the vengeance vultures who always come out, and are galvanized by when they're right (as in the Jerry Sandusky case), but don't say a word when they're wrong (like Nancy Grace deciding to take the night off the day the Duke lacrosse players were exonerated.)
2012-12-25 07:13:26 PM
2 votes:
Notice how Al is checking out her ass...

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2012-12-25 07:07:44 PM
2 votes:
Man if you read some of the details of this case it's hard not to feel sorry for the girl. Her parents were both abusive, her stepfather beat and murdered his first wife. She came up with this lie to avoid being beaten. Imagine how terrified she must have been that rubbing shiat all over herself was better than facing her parents.

Once Sharpton and his cronies came into the picture she became a pawn. Yea sure she could have told the truth, but that would have meant facing the wrath of not only her parents but Sharpton and everyone else involved. I'm sure they probably told her not to worry about anything, that it would all be fine and she was going to get a lot of money when it was finished.

Now she's had to live a life in hiding to try and escape this. If she pays the garnishment of 700 a month she will never pay off this debt because the interest alone is more than that. It would be nice if the guy could cut a deal with her to make a public apology and clear all or most of the judgement. Honestly I don't think she should owe a dime, she made up the rape allegation but it was Sharpton who pointed the finger at this guy, not her.
2012-12-25 06:58:55 PM
2 votes:
If all this woman has to do is tell the world that man is innocent, and she refuses, then she deserves what's coming to her. I didn't realize she still had that option. The way things are now, I'd send her my most decadent dinner receipts with "thanks, biatch" written on them if I was that guy.

\figured myself out
2012-12-25 06:24:35 PM
2 votes:
Admittedly Sharpton can be a bit of a demagogue, but I don't see the reason for the hate in this case. His "crime" here seems to be in believing what the young woman said happened to her. If a crime was made up then the fault is those who made it up and not those where duped into demanding justice.
2012-12-25 06:22:55 PM
2 votes:
If you're old enough to make false accusations of eape and torture, you're old enough to live with the consequences. She's had 25 years to NOT live with the consequences.
2012-12-25 05:24:50 PM
2 votes:

NannyStatePark: theflatline: JasonKY: I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.

Or as you grow into an adult you would apologize for the sins of your youth, because you would realize that you were wrong, and maybe this man whose life you ruined would forgive you.  But no, you change your name and get outta town...

No accountability is a huge problem in our nation, from the top to the bottom.

I've seen people advising others not to apologize for the most trivial shiate because it admits legal liability. There are people who will exploit your best intentions to be decent, and I don't want my freedom or financial security sacrificed on that altar, myself.


CSB time:

Just got a settlement from a car accident I was in. I got hit and my leg run over and broken. The settlement will be here in a few weeks and I was asking my lawyer about maybe sending the girl a card or a note letting her know that I held no ill will or animosity toward her for her mistake.

Lawyer strongly recommended that I never contact the girl again and that my words, in the hands of a good lawyer, could be twisted to be made to sound as if I didn't hold her responsible for the accident and could be used to appeal the settlement in civil court.

Nasty business, this is.
2012-12-25 05:19:14 PM
2 votes:

theflatline: JasonKY: I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.

Or as you grow into an adult you would apologize for the sins of your youth, because you would realize that you were wrong, and maybe this man whose life you ruined would forgive you.  But no, you change your name and get outta town...

No accountability is a huge problem in our nation, from the top to the bottom.


I've seen people advising others not to apologize for the most trivial shiate because it admits legal liability. There are people who will exploit your best intentions to be decent, and I don't want my freedom or financial security sacrificed on that altar, myself.
2012-12-25 05:03:38 PM
2 votes:

noitsnot: DownDaRiver: Easy to guess, but unable to be sure the type of advice, encoragement, brainwashing that Sharpton and others pushed onto her. She was only 15, but surely old enough to understand wrong from right.
It was her that initiated the situation. So ultimetly it was up to her to end the farce that it was. Not that it would have been easy for her to throw off the pressure. Still, it started with her, and she should bare the brunt of the penilties for it.
Sharpton and other should do the right thing and admitt their part in fanning the flames, and pitch in to set things right. But they won't, its not in their nature to admitt fault. That would mean they would have to admitt that they are as racist, if not more so, than those they accused

You guys have weird ideas - like some 15yo girl is gonna stand up to a bunch of pushy money grubbing adults, including her parents who beat her.


I did state that it wouldn't have been easy for her to throw off the pressure. I'm sure that the pressure was guite tremendous. Tough for anybody to deal with.

But, it did start with her. It was up to her to stop it.
2012-12-25 04:54:02 PM
2 votes:
I am utterly divided over this.

Dude deserves everything he's got coming from a lying, race baiting little biatch who would ruin lives rather than face punishment for her own deeds.

Victim of chronic asskicking abuse, cyclical poverty, lousy education, and racist indoctrination tries to save her ass with a lie, only to watch her own children do without because of it, as the punch line to the cruel joke that life as a young black single mother must be...

It's like mental ping pong. I'm beginning to lean towards the dude.
2012-12-25 04:43:15 PM
2 votes:

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge. Some people need to learn how to let things go.


It's kind of hard to let go petty little things, such as completely farking up a man's life.
2012-12-25 04:41:41 PM
2 votes:

Honest Bender: Good luck with that. $175 a week will pay off that $429,000 in roughly 47 years.


The point of all this is not to make a fortune out of this deal. The point of this is to make her pay for her false accusations. If that's enough to make her work as hard as she can and still earn 75% of what she is paid as a punishment for farking up other people's lives, that's a form of justice.
2012-12-25 04:38:47 PM
2 votes:

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge.  Some people need to learn how to let things go.


Even when "holding a grudge" is worth over four hundred thousand dollars? I don't know if I'd be that forgiving... And it was a pretty terrible grudge to begin with...
2012-12-25 04:35:59 PM
2 votes:
Reminds me of the time I had a cashier working for me at Pat Obriens, she would chew grape Hubba Bubba, three pieces at a time, and then when her jaw got tired, she would put it on her giant fake fingernail, saying the gum still had flavor.

So one day a customer thinks that purple blob in his drink is a big piece of fruit....  Needless to say I had to fire her.

So I get called to the labor board for racism, then I provide the judge with a pic of me and my black grandma in Colombia, and my brown ass standing there, and a video of her with the gum on her thumb, plus all of her reprimands for money missing out of the register.

I was exonerated, but still...  I wish her wages were garnished too.
2012-12-25 04:32:53 PM
2 votes:

Phoenix_M: Off Topic: Rev. Al Sharpton was "ordained" at the age of ten and doesn't actually have any religious training.


Hell I'm ordained from the internet. Maybe I should change my name to thatpriestoverthere?
2012-12-25 04:25:11 PM
2 votes:

jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

Interest. Also, she is the only one who isn't a lawyer or can afford a good one.

I'm not as inclined to feel as much disdain for her as I am for Al Sharpton.  It's clear she made the story up to cover something up, and it was Sharpton and his scumbag buddies who turned it into what it became.  I don't think that was her intention at all.

Of course, she had the power to end it at any time.


And Al paid up damn quick, to get it behind him.
2012-12-25 04:20:42 PM
2 votes:
Cue black outrage in 3, 2, 1...
2012-12-25 04:15:41 PM
2 votes:

Waldo Pepper: Too bad he can't hit Big Al up and take it all


Rev. Al already paid his share of the lawsuit he's free and clear.
2012-12-26 01:35:13 PM
1 votes:

Arumat: So if you wear a cotton/poly blend shirt, you'll turn yourself in to be stoned right? Ever had shellfish? If I rape your daughter, I can buy marriage to her for 50 shekels, right? Are your slaves from the last war from the neighboring tribe behaving? If you're going to use an old-school rulebook, you should play by ALL the rules in it.


Dude stop. Can't you see what is happening here?
2012-12-26 11:42:12 AM
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge.  Some people need to learn how to let things go.


I was 12 or so when all this happened. I remember that all the newspapers and tv stations were covering this a lot. Those guys were beaten mercilessly in the press and by the Sharpton/Mason crowd. I seem to remember her hiding in a church for some reason - they probably wanted to prosecute her for filing a false police report. But I digress.
If that happened to me, 250 years wouldn't be long enough to let it go, let alone 25.
2012-12-26 11:18:01 AM
1 votes:

Orange-Pippin: the ha ha guy: Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"
She was ordered by the court to pay her victim. She refused that order and went into hiding. If her debt is forgiven, if she is essentially rewarded for defying the government, how is that "justice"?

If she had owned up to it when she still had supporters, chances are she wouldn't have had to pay a dime out of her own pocket. Instead, she and her family stuck with the attitude that they should be the ones getting paid instead of the victim, and she purposely violated the courts by going into hiding rather than pay her debt.

She had the opportunity to put this behind her and move on. Instead, she committed other crimes, and now has to pay the price for those crimes as well as the original accusation.

Late response (sorry)

Punishing an innocent (the kid) to teach someone a lesson for a character defamation that happened 25 years ago is hardly the right thing to do. If the victim of this blemish cared that much about her character, he would demand community service or something else to help others. I just can't see any good coming out of this.


She is not an innocent. The other guy she falsely accused offed himself after losing his job and family. She deserves a lot worse than community service.
2012-12-26 10:00:53 AM
1 votes:
I had an independent contractor rip me off for a block of pre-paid marketing & design work once. She did a good job on 2 of 3 projects, asked for an advance on the 3rd, then disappeared. I went through the process of getting a judgement against her, though I knew she wouldn't show up & I'd never collect.

Nearly 5 years later, completely by accident, I found out her new name & where she was working. 30 minutes at the courthouse later, I had a garnishment order.

Turned out that she had just quit & cashed in all her vacation, so that final paycheck was decent-sized... and I got it all.

That was a good day.
2012-12-26 09:01:55 AM
1 votes:

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Hi Tawana I work for Random House Publishing .

How would like to make all your money problems go away ? We want you to write a book .

I can set you up with a ghost writer and you can tell the world how you were used by Rev Sharpton and those lawyers.

I mean Sharpton has TV show and is making mad money with MSNBC and what are you gettin' girl ?


I like this a lot.

/ from a liberal that wears Birkenstock's to the shooting range.
2012-12-26 07:29:49 AM
1 votes:
I think just about the best a typical human can aspire to is to be an equal opportunity hater. I've been burned by people of every ethnicity, background, and creed. I generally hold anyone I don't consider a close friend at arm's length, but I won't go out of my way to sabotage or interfere with somebody unless I think they've got it coming. Of course, I think that people like Sharpton (not black people, but people that stir up the anger of others to get more attention for themselves) need to be kicked to the curb, hard. I understand it's within their first amendment rights to say what they want to short of slander, but it's ALSO within my first amendment rights to tell them to go fark themselves and take their opinions with them.
2012-12-26 06:50:55 AM
1 votes:

NannyStatePark: I think there are two types of racists. One is just ill informed, unacquainted with the group, and afraid. They may use stereotypes completely unconsciously, and aren't actively running their mouth toward, or running away from, the group. Most of the time these people are truly upset when they catch themselves and try to work on it as an issue.. Then you have the real racists, who consciously hate, and actively evaluate people and situations with racial bias, make everything boil down to race, stir conflict in the name of dialogue, attack and hurt others purely based on color or origin.

That's how some random chick who can't sleep after surviving a dismal Xmas thinks. I'm probably some kind of wrong, I've only experienced truly overt and hostile racism from a few blacks over the years, sad but true.


The real problem is that the word "racist" has been redefined and extended to the point where every human being living in any democratic civilization is considered "racist," thus rendering the word devoid of meaning without extra qualifiers. That's what happens when everyone cashes in on it.

/oh, and you shouldn't have said it was black people being racist toward you
//everyone knows black people can't be racist, only the people that complain about the accusation of racism are the real racists
2012-12-26 06:36:16 AM
1 votes:
There is a special Hell for people like her and Sharpton. I hope it exists and it's worse than Detroit.
2012-12-26 06:28:05 AM
1 votes:
I think there are two types of racists. One is just ill informed, unacquainted with the group, and afraid. They may use stereotypes completely unconsciously, and aren't actively running their mouth toward, or running away from, the group. Most of the time these people are truly upset when they catch themselves and try to work on it as an issue.. Then you have the real racists, who consciously hate, and actively evaluate people and situations with racial bias, make everything boil down to race, stir conflict in the name of dialogue, attack and hurt others purely based on color or origin.

That's how some random chick who can't sleep after surviving a dismal Xmas thinks. I'm probably some kind of wrong, I've only experienced truly overt and hostile racism from a few blacks over the years, sad but true.
2012-12-26 04:01:41 AM
1 votes:

TheJoe03: Oh_Enough_Already: TheJoe03: Glad this kind of irrelevant racist bullshiat doesn't happen much anymore, for the most part America's different races are getting along better than ever before and better than they do in Europe.

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Sucks that you can't believe someone would say that seriously. What about it is so unbelievable? Even if you live in some hole like Alabama, the racial situation is still better than it has even been. Some people will never admit to progress. And yeah, America is still less racist than Europe and most countries in the old world.


Unpossible! Racism has long been cured in Europe. They would never have Genocides or race riots there. It's a utopia of of derp dreams come true. Just look at the U.K. and France.

/You're never going to get through to the people who want to always believe we are the worst of the worst
2012-12-26 01:28:24 AM
1 votes:

Phoenix_M: Off Topic: Rev. Al Sharpton was "ordained" at the age of ten and doesn't actually have any religious training.


Does it matter? What sort of "training" is there to be a bullshiat artist? At the end of the day, that's what most clergymen are anyway.
2012-12-26 01:26:14 AM
1 votes:

wjmorris3: SearchN: wjmorris3

Seems you are pretty new, or inexperienced at this. May I suggest finding an easier site to learn how to troll on? You are just going to get your ass bounced out of this place pretty quickly.

"Trolling" would imply that I don't believe what I'm writing.


Dude, we get it. We got it the first 10 times you wrote the same thing. Stop acting like a needy 5 year old and shut the f up already.

muck4doo: She could make a lot of money by apologizing, suing sharpton, and writing a book on how he manipulated her.


Howard Stern played the Tawana audio clip for years: "No one manipsmates me or my family."
2012-12-26 12:18:27 AM
1 votes:

SearchN: wjmorris3

Seems you are pretty new, or inexperienced at this. May I suggest finding an easier site to learn how to troll on? You are just going to get your ass bounced out of this place pretty quickly.


Actually, I think he is pretty good. Got a couple of bites I see from clueless individuals.

Unless... of course... they are reverse-trolling HIM! Link
2012-12-25 11:29:06 PM
1 votes:

Nemo's Brother: Al Shartpon is a special kind of liberal. He offends other liberals sometimes. They will still keep in around to unleash upon those who dare disagree with them. The relationship is similar to that of the Arab world and the Palestines. I think every Total Farker owes this man some money too.


He's not a liberal. He's a grifter. Who the hell knows if he believes anything he says.
2012-12-25 11:06:29 PM
1 votes:

The Jami Turman Fan Club: ParaHandy: She should sue Sharpton

I would have thought it'd be too late. She couldn't have sued him at the time without admitting that she lied, which would have been dangerous for her.

She was farked over pretty badly on this one. I understand why Pagones sued everybody on this, but it feels vindictive to collect. However, he's a prosecutor, so looking for human feelings is pointless.

/Doesn't like cops, but admits that most of them have a few redeeming features.
//Not sure how someone could be a prosecutor without being a psychopath.


I think the lawsuit would have turned out very different if she had recanted. She had a lot of time to do so.
2012-12-25 10:53:19 PM
1 votes:

DancingElkCondor: Rev Al better not cough up too much money over Tawana Brawley....because he is going to have his a## in a major sling after George Zimmerman is done with his Jheri Curl. With Sharpton lying about the crime (Trayvon Martin assaulted Zimmerman...that is FACT)...and appearing with the Black Ku Klux Klan (New Black Panthers) handing out "Wanted Dead or Alive" posters...Sharpton is gonna need some help.


Amazing how no one talks about that case any more.
2012-12-25 10:39:03 PM
1 votes:

Generation_D: Curious: traxan: Whether he paid the penalty or not, it's a real disgrace that Sharpton continues to enjoy ANY media credibility. He has a show on MSNBC and was on Fox way too many times for my liking. He should be in hiding along with Tawana.

i'll take MSNBC over Fox any day but when they put Al on they lost a lot of credence.

This.  I am continually amazed the latter-day liberals like Maddow want to share a screen with this exploitive liar.


Birds of a feather.....
2012-12-25 10:30:50 PM
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge. Some people need to learn how to let things go.


You mean like slavery?
2012-12-25 10:23:15 PM
1 votes:

Curious: Infernalist: Lawyer strongly recommended that I never contact the girl again and that my words, in the hands of a good lawyer, could be twisted to be made to sound as if I didn't hold her responsible for the accident and could be used to appeal the settlement in civil court.

which proves the adage that lawyers are worse than pond scum.


Until you need one.
2012-12-25 10:22:12 PM
1 votes:

wjmorris3: SearchN: wjmorris3

Seems you are pretty new, or inexperienced at this. May I suggest finding an easier site to learn how to troll on? You are just going to get your ass bounced out of this place pretty quickly.

"Trolling" would imply that I don't believe what I'm writing.


And therefore, you are a troll, since if you were actually as dumb as you claim you'd have never figured that out.
2012-12-25 10:21:56 PM
1 votes:

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge.  Some people need to learn how to let things go.


"...to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."

Some things, you don't let go.
2012-12-25 10:07:46 PM
1 votes:

ElBarto79: yingtong: ElBarto79: Once Sharpton and his cronies came into the picture she became a pawn. Yea sure she could have told the truth, but that would have meant facing the wrath of not only her parents but Sharpton and everyone else involved.

Think it through one step further.. if she confessed the lie she could also confess her reason for lying. I can imagine the defense team coming in like the wrath of God to get her into protective custody and build a case against Sharpton et al for intimidation, witness manipulation, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, etc.

That's a stretch, in any case even if you assume she could have successfully pulled that off how was she supposed to know that? She was a 15 year old kid not a lawyer. Not only that but she would have still had to face her stepfather, a convicted murderer. Seriously she was in a horrible situation; her whole childhood, that case, it's amazing she has managed to build a somewhat normal life for herself out of that chaos.


It's nice to see someone else who can have a smidge of sympathy for a near-child in a big mess that they started but didn't intend, especially when others jumped on the bandwagon and clearly intended to cause as much ruckus as possible.
2012-12-25 10:00:54 PM
1 votes:

theflatline: JasonKY: I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.

Or as you grow into an adult you would apologize for the sins of your youth, because you would realize that you were wrong, and maybe this man whose life you ruined would forgive you.  But no, you change your name and get outta town...

No accountability is a huge problem in our nation, from the top to the bottom.



THIS

It's a shame the kid will be affected but her mother shouldn't have gone into hiding, essentially. Great example you're setting for your kid, lady. It wouldn't surprise me if she was just a pawn being used at the time by Al farking Sharpton but she still made all of that shiat up. False accusations like that are just as much of a crime. She needs to pay the man and be held accountable. And, maybe, if she has any brains, out the good "Rev" for using her if he in fact did that.
2012-12-25 09:59:26 PM
1 votes:
wjmorris3

Seems you are pretty new, or inexperienced at this. May I suggest finding an easier site to learn how to troll on? You are just going to get your ass bounced out of this place pretty quickly.
2012-12-25 09:44:37 PM
1 votes:

DerAppie: noitsnot: But, I'm sorry, that's nuts. Teens standing up to adults and lecturing them about how they should do the right thing, because - you know - they have strayed from the path and need the voice of innocence to set them straight... That's just on TV shows. That's not real.

She didn't need to stand up to anyone or make moralising speeches. All she needed to do was at some point in the many, many times lawyers, police officers and the judge spoke to her say the words "He did not rape me." Then all the adults would be sidelined and the guy would be more or less free to go (after more investigation).


If you're an abuse victim, that might be an unreasonable expectation, especially if you're a child-abuse victim. The abuser basically brainwashes the child into going into survival mode. So part of her brain was probably saying 'this is very important to them, do not fark with it unless you want to get beaten'.

/There's times when you should go after people for lying, but from TFA and this thread, I'm not seeing any good reasons. Especially since it'll fark up a little kid who did absolutely nothing.
2012-12-25 09:42:26 PM
1 votes:

jayphat: WelldeadLink: JasonKY: On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

People who can't afford to have children should...

Let me fix that for you

People who owe debts starting back 25 years should pay those up before 15 years later deciding to have a child.


If you think its right for a professional attorney to sue a goddamned 15 yr old for libel, you are a pathetic human being.
2012-12-25 08:58:52 PM
1 votes:

KimNorth: wjmorris3: KimNorth: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up! I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"

How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.

They ruled in favor of the man as opposed to the woman, which is classic misogyny. After all, true human beings have two X chromosomes so...

WTF AM I Reading!!



You are reading the work of a surprisingly successful troll. I can't believe he actually is getting nibbles on this line of shiat. It's like the Fark version of a schlumpy-guy/hot-wife sitcom.
2012-12-25 08:58:06 PM
1 votes:
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Prosecutors are paid to lie! Just a bunch of smooth talkers with the law on their side. If I were on a jury, there's no way I'd convict anybody because we can't hope to get the whole story from the PRESUMED INNOCENT defendant because of our corrupt system!
2012-12-25 08:52:05 PM
1 votes:
But we can't say what we really think becuz that would upset the neegroes.
2012-12-25 08:34:14 PM
1 votes:
She should sue Sharpton
2012-12-25 08:28:49 PM
1 votes:

wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.


A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!
2012-12-25 08:14:19 PM
1 votes:

TheJoe03: Glad this kind of irrelevant racist bullshiat doesn't happen much anymore, for the most part America's different races are getting along better than ever before and better than they do in Europe.


I'd have to say that's at least partly because conservatives and religious fundamentalists have successfully transformed some of the racial tensions into anti-lgbt tensions. As evidence to back my claim, I'll point to the fact that the gay marriage legalization measure in California was defeated largely because highly religious black voters were mobilized to vote against it.

/because discrimination is fine when you're doing it to somebody else, right?
2012-12-25 08:11:15 PM
1 votes:

wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.


I marked this as funny.
2012-12-25 08:07:52 PM
1 votes:

Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"


By that standard, every parent in the world has a get out of jail free card. I'm definitely sure that that isn't justice.

My guess is that she quits that job within a few weeks and he gets to go through all of this rigamarole again.
2012-12-25 08:05:48 PM
1 votes:
I wonder how much hate there would be for this girl if Al Sharpton wasn't involved. I think there would be much, much less. Can you be hold financially liable for your actions as a minor? I don't see how.
2012-12-25 07:52:34 PM
1 votes:
Good.

She is a POS for what she did.

And Sharpton is nothing more that a race hustler.
2012-12-25 07:48:00 PM
1 votes:
Justice for Trayvon (TM)
2012-12-25 07:29:36 PM
1 votes:

the ha ha guy: ElBarto79: It would be nice if the guy could cut a deal with her to make a public apology and clear all or most of the judgement

He offered exactly that, and the offer apparently still stands. She refused.


No he didn't and no she didn't.
2012-12-25 07:13:53 PM
1 votes:

ElBarto79: It would be nice if the guy could cut a deal with her to make a public apology and clear all or most of the judgement


He offered exactly that, and the offer apparently still stands. She refused.
2012-12-25 07:06:37 PM
1 votes:

Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"



Never heard of food stamps?

Kids survive. FARK that biatch.
2012-12-25 06:57:55 PM
1 votes:
I hope this dude takes everything she owns, and still gets more. It's already despicable because it was a lie. But when someone lies about something like rape: when there are thousands of people out there who are REALLY going through something so horrible, and likely getting nothing in return, you become the lowest of the low. I hope she's homeless, when this is over, and even that will be too good for her.
2012-12-25 06:50:49 PM
1 votes:

Nemo's Brother: ko_kyi: If I remember Al's perspective, the point is not whether the allegations were true, but rather the undisputed fact that in the past, there were black women raped by white men. Therefore he is guilty.

So he is a liberal.


Oh, just stop.
2012-12-25 06:41:55 PM
1 votes:

ko_kyi: If I remember Al's perspective, the point is not whether the allegations were true, but rather the undisputed fact that in the past, there were black women raped by white men. Therefore he is guilty.


So he is a liberal.
2012-12-25 06:31:27 PM
1 votes:

TheMysteriousStranger: Admittedly Sharpton can be a bit of a demagogue, but I don't see the reason for the hate in this case. His "crime" here seems to be in believing what the young woman said happened to her. If a crime was made up then the fault is those who made it up and not those where duped into demanding justice.


Um, no. He noted a law-enforcement suicide that happened just afterwards and HE's the one who said "See, there's one of the white perps! And a cop!" The prosecutor guy said, "um, no, he wasn't there" and Sharpton upped it to include the prosecutor as well. That was all his idea.
2012-12-25 06:28:03 PM
1 votes:
Hi Tawana I work for Random House Publishing .

How would like to make all your money problems go away ? We want you to write a book .

I can set you up with a ghost writer and you can tell the world how you were used by Rev Sharpton and those lawyers.

I mean Sharpton has TV show and is making mad money with MSNBC and what are you gettin' girl ?
2012-12-25 06:27:50 PM
1 votes:
I'm willing to bet if she spoke with him ad gave an explanation and apologized, he would probably drop this. But the fact that she ran off and has been living under a false identty all these years tells me she has never accepted responsibility for any of this.
2012-12-25 06:26:10 PM
1 votes:

here to help: Um... I'm not familiar with all this. My main question is... how did she end up in a garbage bag with racist sh*t written all over her? Sure they may have attacked innocent people but sounds like there was some kind of crime committed against her. I couldn't see a 15 yo being that diabolical.

Well maybe nowadays but not back then.

Meh.


The racist shiat was written upside down. A witness said he/she saw her climb in the garbage bag. Her clothes were burned but she was not. Her classmates said she was at a party when she said she was abducted. Her stepfather had a violent history and had beaten her before for staying out late, partying, and hanging out with boys.

I was all of a year old when this entire thing happened, but I can't say I blame the grand jury for finding her allegations less credible than a ham sandwich.
2012-12-25 06:24:22 PM
1 votes:

noitsnot: But, I'm sorry, that's nuts. Teens standing up to adults and lecturing them about how they should do the right thing, because - you know - they have strayed from the path and need the voice of innocence to set them straight... That's just on TV shows. That's not real.


She didn't need to stand up to anyone or make moralising speeches. All she needed to do was at some point in the many, many times lawyers, police officers and the judge spoke to her say the words "He did not rape me." Then all the adults would be sidelined and the guy would be more or less free to go (after more investigation).
2012-12-25 05:51:28 PM
1 votes:
I have a problem with these claims that she made it up. If she says it's rape, that's proof enough for me to believe it's rape.
2012-12-25 05:44:55 PM
1 votes:
Tawana Brawley is a racist. So is Sharpton.
2012-12-25 05:43:02 PM
1 votes:
You can sue a 16 year old for defamation?
2012-12-25 05:39:54 PM
1 votes:

jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

Interest. Also, she is the only one who isn't a lawyer or can afford a good one.

I'm not as inclined to feel as much disdain for her as I am for Al Sharpton.  It's clear she made the story up to cover something up, and it was Sharpton and his scumbag buddies who turned it into what it became.  I don't think that was her intention at all.

Of course, she had the power to end it at any time.


Agreed.

qlenfg: I remember the case quite well, and was not surprised when it came out she had lied. However, I don't recall the media reporting the defamation judgments at all -- unlike their rabid coverage of the original story. In any case, any monies he gets will unlikely make up for losing his job as prosecutor and the crap he had to deal with because she lied so her mama wouldn't whip her arse for whoring around.


Of course not, Al Sharpton et al had no interest in publicizing them. This is the first I heard of it also.

olddinosaur: Neither Brawley or Sharpton ever served a single day of time for their crimes; to the best of my knowledge they were never even arrested for anything.

The Duke Fake Rape "Victim" also never faced arrest and trial, but she did get busted for murdering a guy some time later. The DA was never arrested, though right to the last he tried to force people he knew were innocent to perjure themselves and admit to lesser "crimes" which they also did not commit----all to save his useless "reputation."

Makes ne want to throw up.


Yeah, bad DAs normally never get punished.
2012-12-25 05:35:04 PM
1 votes:

DownDaRiver: noitsnot: DownDaRiver: Easy to guess, but unable to be sure the type of advice, encoragement, brainwashing that Sharpton and others pushed onto her. She was only 15, but surely old enough to understand wrong from right.
It was her that initiated the situation. So ultimetly it was up to her to end the farce that it was. Not that it would have been easy for her to throw off the pressure. Still, it started with her, and she should bare the brunt of the penilties for it.
Sharpton and other should do the right thing and admitt their part in fanning the flames, and pitch in to set things right. But they won't, its not in their nature to admitt fault. That would mean they would have to admitt that they are as racist, if not more so, than those they accused

You guys have weird ideas - like some 15yo girl is gonna stand up to a bunch of pushy money grubbing adults, including her parents who beat her.

I did state that it wouldn't have been easy for her to throw off the pressure. I'm sure that the pressure was guite tremendous. Tough for anybody to deal with.

But, it did start with her. It was up to her to stop it.


But, I'm sorry, that's nuts. Teens standing up to adults and lecturing them about how they should do the right thing, because - you know - they have strayed from the path and need the voice of innocence to set them straight... That's just on TV shows. That's not real.
2012-12-25 05:28:53 PM
1 votes:

Tsar_Bomba1: From the end of the article it sounds like he might wave the money if she comes clean.


Probably right under her nose, right?
2012-12-25 05:26:22 PM
1 votes:

fanbladesaresharp: Honest Bender: Good luck with that. $175 a week will pay off that $429,000 in roughly 47 years.

She could always sell weed. Might just have to.


This will not please the left. Race baiting and creating victims out of nothing is what the Democrats excel at. You condone him contiually with your money and praise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBFREiCkf8
2012-12-25 05:17:10 PM
1 votes:
Tawana, 25 years ago:
"No one manipsmates me."
(What she actually said, phonetically spelled.)
2012-12-25 05:08:00 PM
1 votes:
For everyone of her is three more in a dumpster. fark Sharpton. He's a disease.
2012-12-25 05:00:26 PM
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HideAndGoFarkYourself: In my career I've taken probably....50 initial reports from people of all genders, races, ages, etc who have alleged sexual abuse. I'd be surprised if half of those turned out to be true. The number of people who claim that a parent is molesting them, or the number of teenage girls who claim to be raped to cover up consenual sex with a boyfriend or girlfriend is STAGGERING. Makes you wonder how somebody can intentionally ruin somebody's life to avoid being grounded for a few months.


Teenagers generally don't think about whose life they might be ruining when they're that terrified of what their parents will do. Obviously, I'm no parenting expert, but I think it's better to be open and teach your kids actual decision making skills, that decisions have consequences, and that you have to own every single one of your own actions than it is to teach them that certain things are terrible and to just stay away from all of these things or else.
2012-12-25 04:37:16 PM
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Neither Brawley or Sharpton ever served a single day of time for their crimes; to the best of my knowledge they were never even arrested for anything.

The Duke Fake Rape "Victim" also never faced arrest and trial, but she did get busted for murdering a guy some time later. The DA was never arrested, though right to the last he tried to force people he knew were innocent to perjure themselves and admit to lesser "crimes" which they also did not commit----all to save his useless "reputation."

Makes ne want to throw up.
2012-12-25 04:36:40 PM
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DownDaRiver: Easy to guess, but unable to be sure the type of advice, encoragement, brainwashing that Sharpton and others pushed onto her. She was only 15, but surely old enough to understand wrong from right.
It was her that initiated the situation. So ultimetly it was up to her to end the farce that it was. Not that it would have been easy for her to throw off the pressure. Still, it started with her, and she should bare the brunt of the penilties for it.
Sharpton and other should do the right thing and admitt their part in fanning the flames, and pitch in to set things right. But they won't, its not in their nature to admitt fault. That would mean they would have to admitt that they are as racist, if not more so, than those they accused


You guys have weird ideas - like some 15yo girl is gonna stand up to a bunch of pushy money grubbing adults, including her parents who beat her.
2012-12-25 04:35:47 PM
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Arcturus72: Because it was only $185k, but thanks to interest and *hand waving* jedi mind tricks, that amount has gone up considerably... And it was back a few years, but thats what I got out of it from RTFA...


Compound interest is a biatch. Actually, it doesn't look like a very high interest rate based on the fact that she owes just over twice the initial amount after, what, 28 years? 3, 3.5-ish percent maybe? (I'm too lazy to do the math.)
2012-12-25 04:35:23 PM
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The fact that she doesn't use the last name "Brawley" now and was basically in hiding makes me think she knew the garnishment was coming eventually.

/no doubt she'll feel raped by the staggering amount
2012-12-25 04:31:32 PM
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jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

Interest. Also, she is the only one who isn't a lawyer or can afford a good one.

I'm not as inclined to feel as much disdain for her as I am for Al Sharpton.  It's clear she made the story up to cover something up, and it was Sharpton and his scumbag buddies who turned it into what it became.  I don't think that was her intention at all.

Of course, she had the power to end it at any time.


She made up a story that didn't blame anyone specifically - just "some white guys did it". The accusations of specific people didn't happen until the other DB's got involved.
2012-12-25 04:25:36 PM
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Only thing I will complain about here: She was 15. Are 15yos liable? Fully liable? Even somewhat liable? Fifteens can't into licensured driving.
2012-12-25 04:19:58 PM
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borg: Waldo Pepper: Too bad he can't hit Big Al up and take it all

Rev. Al already paid his share of the lawsuit he's free and clear.


Yep, she's the last one of the people he got the judgement against who hasn't either paid up or is in the process of paying up (one of her lawyers, since dis-barred, is currently being garnished). And her share is so big now because of interest on the original amount.
2012-12-25 04:17:28 PM
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Because it was only $185k, but thanks to interest and *hand waving* jedi mind tricks, that amount has gone up considerably... And it was back a few years, but thats what I got out of it from RTFA...
2012-12-25 04:16:01 PM
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"He'll be scrubbing toilets in Tijuana, for pennies, and I'll be standing over him to get my cut."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKeL3Mu5AKo
2012-12-25 04:13:49 PM
1 votes:
Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.
 
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