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(NYPost)   Paging Rev. Al Sharpton: Twenty-five years after a teenage Tawana Brawley falsely dragged his name through the mud as a gang-raping, kidnapping racist, it's payback time for Steven Pagones. Seeking to garnish her wages within the next couple of weeks   (nypost.com) divider line 346
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2012-12-25 08:09:52 PM

prince of peas: ClavellBCMI: jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

And Al paid up damn quick, to get it behind him.

FTFA: Sharpton paid his $66,000 judgment to Pagones, with help from OJ Simpson lawyer Johnnie Cochran and others.

More than likely, Reverend Slimy never paid a cent, he had his wealthy friends pay the penalty, just as he has others pay for everything else. Slimeball.


His "friends" did pay it for him and not quickly. It was several years later and they had to go after him for it.
 
2012-12-25 08:11:15 PM

wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.


I marked this as funny.
 
2012-12-25 08:11:40 PM
Warlordtrooper



I'm torn on this issue on one hand the courts should not be able to be use by he higher classes to torment the lower classes


Ever hear of the equal protection clause.
 
2012-12-25 08:13:46 PM

martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.


Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.
 
2012-12-25 08:14:16 PM

wjmorris3: I have a problem with these claims that she made it up. If she says it's rape, that's proof enough for me to believe it's rape.


Maybe learn about this case before saying stupid shiat. Her story was completely discredited. She did all that stuff to herself.
 
2012-12-25 08:14:19 PM

TheJoe03: Glad this kind of irrelevant racist bullshiat doesn't happen much anymore, for the most part America's different races are getting along better than ever before and better than they do in Europe.


I'd have to say that's at least partly because conservatives and religious fundamentalists have successfully transformed some of the racial tensions into anti-lgbt tensions. As evidence to back my claim, I'll point to the fact that the gay marriage legalization measure in California was defeated largely because highly religious black voters were mobilized to vote against it.

/because discrimination is fine when you're doing it to somebody else, right?
 
2012-12-25 08:14:25 PM
The great Bob Grant called out her bs from the beginning. He also called her "Tawana Banana".
 
2012-12-25 08:16:12 PM

advex101: I wonder how much hate there would be for this girl if Al Sharpton wasn't involved. I think there would be much, much less. Can you be hold financially liable for your actions as a minor? I don't see how.



I agree. In fact, I question whether Brawley should be liable in this instance AT ALL.


FTA: "The Rev. Al Sharpton seized on the suicide as "proof" Crist was one of Brawley's rapists. When Pagones offered an alibi for Crist, Sharpton - with Brawley lawyers Alton Maddox and C. Vernon Mason - called Pagones guilty, too."


Brawley created the initial lie, but it was Sharpton and Company who dragged Pagones into this.


FTA:  "As Brawley stood silent, Pagones, Crist and Scott Patterson, a state trooper who found Crist's body, were painted as racist brutes - until the following year, when a state grand jury found she had made the whole thing up."

I don't see where Brawley implicated Pagones in any way - at least not from TFA. Why should she be responsible for the slanders mouthed by Sharpton and Company?

Maybe someone knows of evidence that would substantiate this judgement?
 
2012-12-25 08:16:16 PM

SlothB77: wjmorris3: I have a problem with these claims that she made it up. If she says it's rape, that's proof enough for me to believe it's rape.

Maybe learn about this case before saying stupid shiat. Her story was completely discredited. She did all that stuff to herself.


Still, rape charges are no joke. And yet they let the assailant off only because of race. Honest;y, he should be in jail where he belongs. Standing up for rapists is misogynist and wrong.
 
2012-12-25 08:18:47 PM

maggoo: ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge. Some people need to learn how to let things go.

It's kind of hard to let go petty little things, such as completely farking up a man's life.


It also needs to be pointed out that it sounds very much as if this guy would drop the whole thing if she would just cop to the truth.
 
2012-12-25 08:19:03 PM

Amos Quito: I agree. In fact, I question whether Brawley should be liable in this instance AT ALL.


A good point. She was a manipulated dupe, who has a name that everybody recognizes for something she did at age 15.
 
2012-12-25 08:20:05 PM

leevis: prince of peas: ClavellBCMI: jake_lex: Torqueknot: Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.

And Al paid up damn quick, to get it behind him.

FTFA: Sharpton paid his $66,000 judgment to Pagones, with help from OJ Simpson lawyer Johnnie Cochran and others.

More than likely, Reverend Slimy never paid a cent, he had his wealthy friends pay the penalty, just as he has others pay for everything else. Slimeball.

His "friends" did pay it for him and not quickly. It was several years later and they had to go after him for it.



Well, too bad Tawana doesn't have any rich friends that will pay for things like that or vacations or anything.
 
2012-12-25 08:28:04 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: From the end of the article it sounds like he might wave the money if she comes clean.


That makes me wonder, if she did and he did, would she have to pay gift or income taxes on all that money?
 
2012-12-25 08:28:49 PM

wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.


A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!
 
2012-12-25 08:33:14 PM

JasonKY: I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.


And if she were childless?

Honestly, I am impressed that she's made something of her life and doesn't have a raft of children.
 
2012-12-25 08:34:14 PM
She should sue Sharpton
 
2012-12-25 08:34:37 PM

martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!


The grand jury was obviously misogynist.
 
2012-12-25 08:43:05 PM

wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"


How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.
 
2012-12-25 08:47:56 PM

KimNorth: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"

How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.


They ruled in favor of the man as opposed to the woman, which is classic misogyny. After all, true human beings have two X chromosomes so...
 
2012-12-25 08:50:00 PM

wjmorris3: KimNorth: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"

How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.

They ruled in favor of the man as opposed to the woman, which is classic misogyny. After all, true human beings have two X chromosomes so...


WTF AM I Reading!!
 
2012-12-25 08:51:16 PM

Honest Bender: Good luck with that. $175 a week will pay off that $429,000 in roughly 47 years.


That's okay....that means she will have 47 years ( or until she dies) to think about what a lying pos she is.....
 
2012-12-25 08:52:03 PM

KimNorth: wjmorris3: KimNorth: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"

How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.

They ruled in favor of the man as opposed to the woman, which is classic misogyny. After all, true human beings have two X chromosomes so...

WTF AM I Reading!!


Perfectly scientific fact. All true human beings have two X chromosomes. By contrast, all potential rapists have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome. It's a common mistake to confuse potential rapists for humans. It's why I admit that I am a potential rapist and not a human. It is my duty not to act on my urges.
 
2012-12-25 08:52:05 PM
But we can't say what we really think becuz that would upset the neegroes.
 
2012-12-25 08:58:06 PM
img.timeinc.net

Prosecutors are paid to lie! Just a bunch of smooth talkers with the law on their side. If I were on a jury, there's no way I'd convict anybody because we can't hope to get the whole story from the PRESUMED INNOCENT defendant because of our corrupt system!
 
2012-12-25 08:58:21 PM

wjmorris3: KimNorth: wjmorris3: KimNorth: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up!  I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"

How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.

They ruled in favor of the man as opposed to the woman, which is classic misogyny. After all, true human beings have two X chromosomes so...

WTF AM I Reading!!

Perfectly scientific fact. All true human beings have two X chromosomes. By contrast, all potential rapists have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome. It's a common mistake to confuse potential rapists for humans. It's why I admit that I am a potential rapist and not a human. It is my duty not to act on my urges.


Then what you are saying would be the opposite of Misogyny, so still WTF am I reading here? Male not human Female human?? Never mind. Been fun.......
 
2012-12-25 08:58:52 PM

KimNorth: wjmorris3: KimNorth: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up! I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"

How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.

They ruled in favor of the man as opposed to the woman, which is classic misogyny. After all, true human beings have two X chromosomes so...

WTF AM I Reading!!



You are reading the work of a surprisingly successful troll. I can't believe he actually is getting nibbles on this line of shiat. It's like the Fark version of a schlumpy-guy/hot-wife sitcom.
 
2012-12-25 09:03:12 PM

Gulper Eel: KimNorth: wjmorris3: KimNorth: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: martid4: wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

I marked this as funny.

Nothing funny about a woman getting raped and her assailant getting off scot-free.

A grand jury determined that she made it up! I marked YOU as funny!

The grand jury was obviously misogynist.

"Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls"

How does that work as I'm pretty sure there were other woman on the grand jury.

They ruled in favor of the man as opposed to the woman, which is classic misogyny. After all, true human beings have two X chromosomes so...

WTF AM I Reading!!


You are reading the work of a surprisingly successful troll. I can't believe he actually is getting nibbles on this line of shiat. It's like the Fark version of a schlumpy-guy/hot-wife sitcom.


I was not sure some people really believed this girl.
 
2012-12-25 09:13:00 PM

Amos Quito: I don't see where Brawley implicated Pagones in any way - at least not from TFA. Why should she be responsible for the slanders mouthed by Sharpton and Company?


It's a legit point.  But the whole case is such a clusterfark it's not even worth trying to figure out who did what anymore.
 
2012-12-25 09:13:27 PM

Eponymous: ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge.  Some people need to learn how to let things go.

You wouldn't happen to have $429k I could borrow would you....I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I welched. If not, STFU.


This assumes that 429k is the actual damages.

I have a hard time to believe that is anything other than RIAA math.
 
2012-12-25 09:20:50 PM

Carousel Beast: Funny how Theateus isn't around for this thread...



On December 25th, in the United States? You think that's strange?
It's almost as if he could be busy with something else... what could it be, what could it be....
 
2012-12-25 09:20:57 PM

ElBarto79: Once Sharpton and his cronies came into the picture she became a pawn. Yea sure she could have told the truth, but that would have meant facing the wrath of not only her parents but Sharpton and everyone else involved.


Think it through one step further.. if she confessed the lie she could also confess her reason for lying. I can imagine the defense team coming in like the wrath of God to get her into protective custody and build a case against Sharpton et al for intimidation, witness manipulation, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, etc.
 
2012-12-25 09:27:52 PM
Merry Christmas Al and Tawana

i586.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-25 09:27:59 PM

yingtong: ElBarto79: Once Sharpton and his cronies came into the picture she became a pawn. Yea sure she could have told the truth, but that would have meant facing the wrath of not only her parents but Sharpton and everyone else involved.

Think it through one step further.. if she confessed the lie she could also confess her reason for lying. I can imagine the defense team coming in like the wrath of God to get her into protective custody and build a case against Sharpton et al for intimidation, witness manipulation, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, etc.


Wow, you think life is like television, dont you?
 
2012-12-25 09:34:31 PM

qlenfg: I remember the case quite well, and was not surprised when it came out she had lied. However, I don't recall the media reporting the defamation judgments at all -- unlike their rabid coverage of the original story. In any case, any monies he gets will unlikely make up for losing his job as prosecutor and the crap he had to deal with because she lied so her mama wouldn't whip her arse for whoring around.


Me too. Learned a new word. Maniximated.
 
2012-12-25 09:38:20 PM

WelldeadLink: JasonKY: On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

People who can't afford to have children should...


Let me fix that for you

People who owe debts starting back 25 years should pay those up before 15 years later deciding to have a child.
 
2012-12-25 09:39:10 PM

Arcturus72: Because it was only $185k, but thanks to interest and *hand waving* jedi mind tricks, that amount has gone up considerably... And it was back a few years, but thats what I got out of it from RTFA...


Um...over the course of 15 years, that's less that 8% APR.

Visa has over double that percentage rate. Jedi mind tricks indeed.
 
2012-12-25 09:42:26 PM

jayphat: WelldeadLink: JasonKY: On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

People who can't afford to have children should...

Let me fix that for you

People who owe debts starting back 25 years should pay those up before 15 years later deciding to have a child.


If you think its right for a professional attorney to sue a goddamned 15 yr old for libel, you are a pathetic human being.
 
2012-12-25 09:44:37 PM

DerAppie: noitsnot: But, I'm sorry, that's nuts. Teens standing up to adults and lecturing them about how they should do the right thing, because - you know - they have strayed from the path and need the voice of innocence to set them straight... That's just on TV shows. That's not real.

She didn't need to stand up to anyone or make moralising speeches. All she needed to do was at some point in the many, many times lawyers, police officers and the judge spoke to her say the words "He did not rape me." Then all the adults would be sidelined and the guy would be more or less free to go (after more investigation).


If you're an abuse victim, that might be an unreasonable expectation, especially if you're a child-abuse victim. The abuser basically brainwashes the child into going into survival mode. So part of her brain was probably saying 'this is very important to them, do not fark with it unless you want to get beaten'.

/There's times when you should go after people for lying, but from TFA and this thread, I'm not seeing any good reasons. Especially since it'll fark up a little kid who did absolutely nothing.
 
2012-12-25 09:49:17 PM
Wow, a prosecutor wants recompense for the enduring pain of being falsely accused of a crime. If only he could convert irony to dollars, he'd be paid in full.
 
2012-12-25 09:51:48 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.


Yeah. She may have made up a generic story to cover some embarrassing situation, but it sounds like it was Sharpton et al who defamed specific individuals.

Plus, she was fifteen at the time.
 
2012-12-25 09:53:46 PM

yingtong: ElBarto79: Once Sharpton and his cronies came into the picture she became a pawn. Yea sure she could have told the truth, but that would have meant facing the wrath of not only her parents but Sharpton and everyone else involved.

Think it through one step further.. if she confessed the lie she could also confess her reason for lying. I can imagine the defense team coming in like the wrath of God to get her into protective custody and build a case against Sharpton et al for intimidation, witness manipulation, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, etc.


That's a stretch, in any case even if you assume she could have successfully pulled that off how was she supposed to know that? She was a 15 year old kid not a lawyer. Not only that but she would have still had to face her stepfather, a convicted murderer. Seriously she was in a horrible situation; her whole childhood, that case, it's amazing she has managed to build a somewhat normal life for herself out of that chaos.
 
2012-12-25 09:56:24 PM

FriarReb98: Amos Quito: I don't see where Brawley implicated Pagones in any way - at least not from TFA. Why should she be responsible for the slanders mouthed by Sharpton and Company?

It's a legit point.  But the whole case is such a clusterfark it's not even worth trying to figure out who did what anymore.



I'd wager that Tawana has a differing opinion.

But as I said earlier, fark her. Her lies created a maelstrom, but that doesn't make her liable for Sharptons assclownery.

OTOH, I have NO pity for ANY prosecutor. Sadistic bastards all. When was the last time you saw any public prosecutor apologize - let alone pay restitution to anyone they falsely accused?

/Fark Pagones


:-)
 
2012-12-25 09:59:26 PM
wjmorris3

Seems you are pretty new, or inexperienced at this. May I suggest finding an easier site to learn how to troll on? You are just going to get your ass bounced out of this place pretty quickly.
 
2012-12-25 10:00:54 PM

theflatline: JasonKY: I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.

Or as you grow into an adult you would apologize for the sins of your youth, because you would realize that you were wrong, and maybe this man whose life you ruined would forgive you.  But no, you change your name and get outta town...

No accountability is a huge problem in our nation, from the top to the bottom.



THIS

It's a shame the kid will be affected but her mother shouldn't have gone into hiding, essentially. Great example you're setting for your kid, lady. It wouldn't surprise me if she was just a pawn being used at the time by Al farking Sharpton but she still made all of that shiat up. False accusations like that are just as much of a crime. She needs to pay the man and be held accountable. And, maybe, if she has any brains, out the good "Rev" for using her if he in fact did that.
 
2012-12-25 10:01:45 PM

Warlordtrooper: This assumes that 429k is the actual damages.

I have a hard time to believe that is anything other than RIAA math.



One of my friends was falsely accused of stealing a car a few years ago (someone else admitted to it before he went to trial). Between the lawyer fees, being fired from his job, overdraft fees from having no income, years of being refused for any job that pays more than minimum wage, and jumping through all the hoops to expunge his record, I'm confident that his actual damages are at least $100k. That's for a relatively minor crime, which wasn't even covered in the town paper.

This guy was accused of gang-rape and kidnapping, and he was vilified in the national media. So yeah, I'm sure his actual damages might be slightly higher than someone who had no media coverage and never even went to trial.
 
2012-12-25 10:04:19 PM
Is it possible we got the dates wrong, and she was in fact raped and murdered in 1990?
 
2012-12-25 10:05:47 PM

Loren: Cue black outrage in 3, 2, 1...


Yes. This is racist and outrageous.Once again the White Man comes down on victimized, helpless Brown People

/doin' it right?
 
2012-12-25 10:07:46 PM

ElBarto79: yingtong: ElBarto79: Once Sharpton and his cronies came into the picture she became a pawn. Yea sure she could have told the truth, but that would have meant facing the wrath of not only her parents but Sharpton and everyone else involved.

Think it through one step further.. if she confessed the lie she could also confess her reason for lying. I can imagine the defense team coming in like the wrath of God to get her into protective custody and build a case against Sharpton et al for intimidation, witness manipulation, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, etc.

That's a stretch, in any case even if you assume she could have successfully pulled that off how was she supposed to know that? She was a 15 year old kid not a lawyer. Not only that but she would have still had to face her stepfather, a convicted murderer. Seriously she was in a horrible situation; her whole childhood, that case, it's amazing she has managed to build a somewhat normal life for herself out of that chaos.


It's nice to see someone else who can have a smidge of sympathy for a near-child in a big mess that they started but didn't intend, especially when others jumped on the bandwagon and clearly intended to cause as much ruckus as possible.
 
2012-12-25 10:09:59 PM

wjmorris3: SlothB77: wjmorris3: I have a problem with these claims that she made it up. If she says it's rape, that's proof enough for me to believe it's rape.

Maybe learn about this case before saying stupid shiat. Her story was completely discredited. She did all that stuff to herself.

Still, rape charges are no joke. And yet they let the assailant off only because of race. Honest;y, he should be in jail where he belongs. Standing up for rapists is misogynist and wrong.


9/10. Something keeps me from giving it a 10.0
 
2012-12-25 10:11:53 PM
If a 15 year old can be held liable that means we as a society consider her old enough to be responsible. So she should also have been allowed to drink, smoke, vote, enlist.. ect at the age of 15.
 
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