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(NYPost)   Paging Rev. Al Sharpton: Twenty-five years after a teenage Tawana Brawley falsely dragged his name through the mud as a gang-raping, kidnapping racist, it's payback time for Steven Pagones. Seeking to garnish her wages within the next couple of weeks   (nypost.com) divider line 346
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2012-12-25 06:27:50 PM
I'm willing to bet if she spoke with him ad gave an explanation and apologized, he would probably drop this. But the fact that she ran off and has been living under a false identty all these years tells me she has never accepted responsibility for any of this.
 
2012-12-25 06:28:03 PM
Hi Tawana I work for Random House Publishing .

How would like to make all your money problems go away ? We want you to write a book .

I can set you up with a ghost writer and you can tell the world how you were used by Rev Sharpton and those lawyers.

I mean Sharpton has TV show and is making mad money with MSNBC and what are you gettin' girl ?
 
2012-12-25 06:30:12 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: Admittedly Sharpton can be a bit of a demagogue, but I don't see the reason for the hate in this case. His "crime" here seems to be in believing what the young woman said happened to her. If a crime was made up then the fault is those who made it up and not those where duped into demanding justice.


That's the part that will never be clear. I don't pretend to know what it's like to be a prosecutor, but I would imagine that you have to ask your client to tell the entire truth (much like I would imagine a defense attorney would do). Then, it's up to their conscience whether to continue to prosecute an innocent person or defend a guilty person.

As for everyone else who was caught up in it, well, that's tough to say. It's the classic question of "What did you know and when did you know it?"
 
2012-12-25 06:31:27 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: Admittedly Sharpton can be a bit of a demagogue, but I don't see the reason for the hate in this case. His "crime" here seems to be in believing what the young woman said happened to her. If a crime was made up then the fault is those who made it up and not those where duped into demanding justice.


Um, no. He noted a law-enforcement suicide that happened just afterwards and HE's the one who said "See, there's one of the white perps! And a cop!" The prosecutor guy said, "um, no, he wasn't there" and Sharpton upped it to include the prosecutor as well. That was all his idea.
 
2012-12-25 06:32:04 PM
If I remember Al's perspective, the point is not whether the allegations were true, but rather the undisputed fact that in the past, there were black women raped by white men. Therefore he is guilty.
 
2012-12-25 06:36:40 PM
People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"
 
2012-12-25 06:38:45 PM
Al never paid a cent from his own pocket...he had other people chip in and also took up a collection from poor old black ladies who went to church.

Als always exploiting someone.
 
2012-12-25 06:41:29 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: Admittedly Sharpton can be a bit of a demagogue, but I don't see the reason for the hate in this case. His "crime" here seems to be in believing what the young woman said happened to her.


and then exploiting it for his personal gain. this site may be questionable but they seem to have the basic facts right about the "Rev" lustrous career. when you spent your life pushing racial hate you can't be surprised folks dislike you.
 
2012-12-25 06:41:50 PM

Curious: traxan: Whether he paid the penalty or not, it's a real disgrace that Sharpton continues to enjoy ANY media credibility. He has a show on MSNBC and was on Fox way too many times for my liking. He should be in hiding along with Tawana.

i'll take MSNBC over Fox any day but when they put Al on they lost a lot of credence.


This.  I am continually amazed the latter-day liberals like Maddow want to share a screen with this exploitive liar.
 
2012-12-25 06:41:55 PM

ko_kyi: If I remember Al's perspective, the point is not whether the allegations were true, but rather the undisputed fact that in the past, there were black women raped by white men. Therefore he is guilty.


So he is a liberal.
 
2012-12-25 06:44:42 PM
Rev Al better not cough up too much money over Tawana Brawley....because he is going to have his a## in a major sling after George Zimmerman is done with his Jheri Curl. With Sharpton lying about the crime (Trayvon Martin assaulted Zimmerman...that is FACT)...and appearing with the Black Ku Klux Klan (New Black Panthers) handing out "Wanted Dead or Alive" posters...Sharpton is gonna need some help.
 
2012-12-25 06:49:00 PM

redmid17: The racist shiat was written upside down. A witness said he/she saw her climb in the garbage bag. Her clothes were burned but she was not. Her classmates said she was at a party when she said she was abducted. Her stepfather had a violent history and had beaten her before for staying out late, partying, and hanging out with boys.

I was all of a year old when this entire thing happened, but I can't say I blame the grand jury for finding her allegations less credible than a ham sandwich.


Well that's all kinds of messed up. I'm inclined to say, although she made a MASSIVE error in judgment, as a minor who was being abused and then manipulated by scumbags perhaps dinging her specifically for almost half a mil is... well, messed up.

But the dude said he'd drop it if she just told the truth. That's what she should do. The step dad and all the weasels who used her should face various criminal charges.
 
2012-12-25 06:50:49 PM

Nemo's Brother: ko_kyi: If I remember Al's perspective, the point is not whether the allegations were true, but rather the undisputed fact that in the past, there were black women raped by white men. Therefore he is guilty.

So he is a liberal.


Oh, just stop.
 
2012-12-25 06:52:29 PM
Glad this kind of irrelevant racist bullshiat doesn't happen much anymore, for the most part America's different races are getting along better than ever before and better than they do in Europe.
 
2012-12-25 06:57:55 PM
I hope this dude takes everything she owns, and still gets more. It's already despicable because it was a lie. But when someone lies about something like rape: when there are thousands of people out there who are REALLY going through something so horrible, and likely getting nothing in return, you become the lowest of the low. I hope she's homeless, when this is over, and even that will be too good for her.
 
2012-12-25 06:58:55 PM
If all this woman has to do is tell the world that man is innocent, and she refuses, then she deserves what's coming to her. I didn't realize she still had that option. The way things are now, I'd send her my most decadent dinner receipts with "thanks, biatch" written on them if I was that guy.

\figured myself out
 
2012-12-25 07:03:52 PM
She moved to Richmond? Only a matter of time until history repeats itself.
 
2012-12-25 07:06:11 PM

DancingElkCondor: Rev Al better not cough up too much money over Tawana Brawley....because he is going to have his a## in a major sling after George Zimmerman is done with his Jheri Curl. With Sharpton lying about the crime (Trayvon Martin assaulted Zimmerman...that is FACT)...and appearing with the Black Ku Klux Klan (New Black Panthers) handing out "Wanted Dead or Alive" posters...Sharpton is gonna need some help.


Al Sharpton has a PERM not a Jheri Curl. Hasn't this case brewed up enough disinformation?
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/let your soul glow
 
2012-12-25 07:06:37 PM

Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"



Never heard of food stamps?

Kids survive. FARK that biatch.
 
2012-12-25 07:06:40 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Kinda curious to why she had the largest bill; the others seem to have had a much larger hand in the false accusations against him.


she started the whole affair. others came to her cause and championed for her. she's the #1. the idiot. the liar. Al Sharpton has been an idiot and a liar most all his life, he can't help it.
 
2012-12-25 07:06:44 PM
Merry Christmas
 
2012-12-25 07:07:44 PM
Man if you read some of the details of this case it's hard not to feel sorry for the girl. Her parents were both abusive, her stepfather beat and murdered his first wife. She came up with this lie to avoid being beaten. Imagine how terrified she must have been that rubbing shiat all over herself was better than facing her parents.

Once Sharpton and his cronies came into the picture she became a pawn. Yea sure she could have told the truth, but that would have meant facing the wrath of not only her parents but Sharpton and everyone else involved. I'm sure they probably told her not to worry about anything, that it would all be fine and she was going to get a lot of money when it was finished.

Now she's had to live a life in hiding to try and escape this. If she pays the garnishment of 700 a month she will never pay off this debt because the interest alone is more than that. It would be nice if the guy could cut a deal with her to make a public apology and clear all or most of the judgement. Honestly I don't think she should owe a dime, she made up the rape allegation but it was Sharpton who pointed the finger at this guy, not her.
 
2012-12-25 07:08:12 PM

jmr61: Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"


Never heard of food stamps?

Kids survive. FARK that biatch.


merry chrimbus, here's your pasta bear

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2012-12-25 07:10:21 PM
She dated one of our local boys here in Va.Beach and he threw her" under the bus "when she admitted that she lied .
 
2012-12-25 07:10:24 PM

Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"

She was ordered by the court to pay her victim. She refused that order and went into hiding. If her debt is forgiven, if she is essentially rewarded for defying the government, how is that "justice"?

If she had owned up to it when she still had supporters, chances are she wouldn't have had to pay a dime out of her own pocket. Instead, she and her family stuck with the attitude that they should be the ones getting paid instead of the victim, and she purposely violated the courts by going into hiding rather than pay her debt.

She had the opportunity to put this behind her and move on. Instead, she committed other crimes, and now has to pay the price for those crimes as well as the original accusation.
 
2012-12-25 07:11:42 PM

Curious: Infernalist: Lawyer strongly recommended that I never contact the girl again and that my words, in the hands of a good lawyer, could be twisted to be made to sound as if I didn't hold her responsible for the accident and could be used to appeal the settlement in civil court.

which proves the adage that lawyers are worse than pond scum.


explain?
 
2012-12-25 07:12:40 PM
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"I can't have my wages garnishied."
 
2012-12-25 07:13:26 PM
Notice how Al is checking out her ass...

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2012-12-25 07:13:53 PM

ElBarto79: It would be nice if the guy could cut a deal with her to make a public apology and clear all or most of the judgement


He offered exactly that, and the offer apparently still stands. She refused.
 
2012-12-25 07:28:59 PM
She's one of the big reasons many actual rape victims were afraid to come forward until news sources were forbidden to air their names. For that alone Brawley is destined for hell. But it gets worse when you realize anonymous accusations have enabled more Tawana Brawleys, on bigger fish. Yet, people still call Ben Roethlisberger Rapey Ben, but at least he's still making his millions, and there are still people who think Kobe Bryant raped a woman in Colorado, but again, he's still making his millions. And it's a damned good thing they didn't blare the names of the Duke lacrosse players accused of rape across the airwaves; they at least got theirs back (and their accuser is about to go on trial for murder). This problem will probably persist until people stop overreacting to big crimes in general, especially the vengeance vultures who always come out, and are galvanized by when they're right (as in the Jerry Sandusky case), but don't say a word when they're wrong (like Nancy Grace deciding to take the night off the day the Duke lacrosse players were exonerated.)
 
2012-12-25 07:29:36 PM

the ha ha guy: ElBarto79: It would be nice if the guy could cut a deal with her to make a public apology and clear all or most of the judgement

He offered exactly that, and the offer apparently still stands. She refused.


No he didn't and no she didn't.
 
2012-12-25 07:37:36 PM

Honest Bender: Good luck with that. $175 a week will pay off that $429,000 in roughly 47 years.


At the current rate. Remember that the interest continues to add to the bill, so it's actually more than 47 years.
 
2012-12-25 07:42:28 PM
I spent some of my cub-reporter days covering the Brawley circus, so I am really getting a kick etc.

The other two sonsabiatches whose names you are looking for are Sharpton's one-time cohorts Alton Maddox Jr. and C. Vernon Mason. These two make Sharpton look like Mitt Romney.

These days Maddox, having calmed down somewhat from the days when he'd think nothing of Godwinning himself five times a day while accusing the state attorney general of fapping to pictures of Tawana (yes, really), still makes a steady living as a semi-professional celebrity race card player of the Cynthia McKinney ilk, while Mason after being disbarred for professional misconduct is weaseling his way back into the good graces of the NYC Democratic party. Far as I know, they have NOT paid the judgments against them in the case which come to about $270,000.

CSB: about fifteen years ago one of my colleagues was covering the endless proceedings in the slander case, and during a break in proceedings she asked the NY Times reporter next to her to save her seat while she went to the ladies' room. Over comes one of the Sharpton-Maddox-Mason entourage demanding the seat, and when the Times reporter explained it was duly reserved, in the goon started with the usual Professionally Outraged Black Person wharr before stomping off. Then my African-American colleague returned to her seat. /CSB (and it made the Times)
 
2012-12-25 07:48:00 PM
Justice for Trayvon (TM)
 
2012-12-25 07:50:43 PM
Will you guys please stop blaming the victim here?!
 
2012-12-25 07:50:56 PM
While I understand the concern for her daughter, the unfortunate fact is that children suffer for their parents' previous misdeeds all the time. If it's unfair to her daughter to garnish Brawley's wages, does that mean that nobody who has dependent children should be fined or jailed? Their children will inevitably be affected by that -- emotionally if not financially. I hope her daughter has some other people can support her socially if not financially because to be honest, I get the feeling that she didn't exactly win the good parent lottery to begin with.

About Brawley herself, it's really hard to say; fifteen is old enough to know right from wrong and so forth, but it's still young enough that I can easily see how she could have been steamrolled by Sharpton & Co. They were much older, much more powerful and much stronger than she was, and they used her shamelessly. I don't mean she was entirely a passive victim, she did lie at first, but I'd be surprised if she intended for that lie to metastasize the way it did. She was weak; she lied to get out of trouble with her stepfather (who sounds like a real gem himself), then she lied to keep Sharpton et al happy, telling them what they wanted to hear, and in the end she wasn't strong enough to take back her lie and say in front of the entire world (at that point) "I made this story up, this person did not rape me." But whether she intended it or not, her weakness allowed this man's life to be destroyed, and she was old enough to know it. She should pay. Of course, if Sharpton was such a friend of hers, he'd help her out, but I think it's pretty clear how much time he has for people who aren't useful to him any more.
 
2012-12-25 07:52:15 PM
I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?
 
2012-12-25 07:52:34 PM
Good.

She is a POS for what she did.

And Sharpton is nothing more that a race hustler.
 
2012-12-25 07:55:16 PM
Holding black people legally accountable for their actions is racist!
 
2012-12-25 07:55:17 PM

Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?


No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.
 
2012-12-25 08:00:54 PM

JasonKY: I have to say I'm conflicted on this one.

On the one hand, I fully believe that if you accuse someone of rape, your name should be put out in public along with the name of the accused, and if it can be proven that you maliciously lied about it that your assets should be seized and given to the person you falsely accused, along with a substantial jail sentence.

On the other hand, TFA says that she has a grade-school aged daughter, who had nothing to do with her mother's crimes (and in point of fact hadn't even been thought of when the initial judgment was passed) who is already most likely not living under the greatest conditions to begin with who will now have to suffer for her mother's crimes.

Truly a no win situation.


Actually there is.. maybe this daughter of Tawana can pull some sort of hoax and destroy the men who manipulated her own mother when she was only a teen herself to perpetuated a lie which cost so many good men their livelihood, reputation and in the case of a cop his life.
 
2012-12-25 08:01:09 PM

TheJoe03: Glad this kind of irrelevant racist bullshiat doesn't happen much anymore, for the most part America's different races are getting along better than ever before and better than they do in Europe.


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2012-12-25 08:02:59 PM

Brick-House: I'm willing to bet if she spoke with him ad gave an explanation and apologized, he would probably drop this. But the fact that she ran off and has been living under a false identty all these years tells me she has never accepted responsibility for any of this.


White chick lies about being raped, black dude is expected to forgive and forget and say it's in god's hands.

Black chick lies about being raped, white dude expects to get paid, biatch.
 
2012-12-25 08:03:21 PM

Gulper Eel: I spent some of my cub-reporter days covering the Brawley circus, so I am really getting a kick etc.

The other two sonsabiatches whose names you are looking for are Sharpton's one-time cohorts Alton Maddox Jr. and C. Vernon Mason. These two make Sharpton look like Mitt Romney.



Mental... image... fail...

Fuse... blown... brain...
 
2012-12-25 08:05:48 PM
I wonder how much hate there would be for this girl if Al Sharpton wasn't involved. I think there would be much, much less. Can you be hold financially liable for your actions as a minor? I don't see how.
 
2012-12-25 08:05:52 PM

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge.  Some people need to learn how to let things go.


5/10

Got some bites.
 
2012-12-25 08:07:26 PM

ReapTheChaos: Wow, 25 years is a long time to hold a grudge.  Some people need to learn how to let things go.


You wouldn't happen to have $429k I could borrow would you....I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I welched. If not, STFU.
 
2012-12-25 08:07:52 PM

Orange-Pippin: People will disagree with me on this but she has a kid and is already poor. The girl is no good but the kid is definitely going to suffer and may even end up going hungry. I'm not sure how this is "justice"


By that standard, every parent in the world has a get out of jail free card. I'm definitely sure that that isn't justice.

My guess is that she quits that job within a few weeks and he gets to go through all of this rigamarole again.
 
2012-12-25 08:08:05 PM

wjmorris3: Amos Quito: I'm doing my best to try to emplthize with "former prosecutor Pagones", but I cant.

What Brawley did was WRONG. She lied, cheated and, working the system, caused incalculable damage to the reputation, career, and the very life of a man - even though he was innocent as charged. Never apologized. Never offered reestitution.

Terrible. Unforgivable.

OTOH, that's was farking PROSECUTORS like Pagones do innocent citizens all farking day every farking day, and WE pay them to do so.


/How's them apples, Pagones?

No, what happened is Pagones raped Brawley and got away with it because he is white and she is black. Don't be misogynist and start blaming the victim.

 
2012-12-25 08:09:50 PM

ManRay: [img341.imageshack.us image 500x298]
skinink: Can he also go after Spike Lee for reinforcing the lie that Twana told the truth?

Maybe a few points off this (otherwise great) movie?


Spike Lee: always a bastion of truth and good sense.

I like when he makes commercials for the man.
 
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