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(Breitbart.com)   Fark ready headline: Almost 500,000 Federal Workers Make Over $100,000/year   (breitbart.com) divider line 256
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2012-12-25 02:50:31 AM  
There's your 4.4 trillion dollar annual deficit right there.
 
2012-12-25 02:59:23 AM  
claims that government employees make more money, work less, retire earlier, have greater job security, and have more retirement security than their private sector counterparts.

what a nightmare.
 
2012-12-25 03:09:09 AM  
So 20% of federal employees make over $100,000.

Meanwhile,

lasttechage.files.wordpress.com

20% of private sector employees made over $100,000. However, no one in the government, not even the POTUS makes millions.

In other words QFT and DIAF you fatcat plutocrats.
 
2012-12-25 03:18:44 AM  
Meh. Another example of non-unionized private sector employees too weak and spineless to demand decent wages, benefits, and pensions. Get a union or stfu, wimps.

/how'm i doin?
 
2012-12-25 03:47:35 AM  
So?
 
2012-12-25 03:51:14 AM  
Wait a minute, how come $250k isn't very much money when your taxes might go up 4%, but $100k is more than anyone in government has any right to, no matter how good they are at their job, or how long they've been in it?

And are these six-figure government employees less or more evil than those greedy $50k a year teachers?
 
2012-12-25 04:16:00 AM  
I'd rather pay the people who work for the Feds decent money than have the FBI, etc. become another DMV.
 
2012-12-25 06:46:47 AM  
We have to pay this to attract and retain quality personnel.

At least that's the excuse for outrageous CEO pay.
 
2012-12-25 08:01:55 AM  
Why do we overpay some egghead to chair the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities at the Center for Disease Control when Jenny McCarthy performs the same function for free AND she'll pop out the funbags if the situation warrants?

Now the guy running Herbalife making $89,000,000? That's common sense free market Founding Father job creator small businessheroics!
 
2012-12-25 08:19:52 AM  
I thought dead men weren't supposed to tell tales.
 
2012-12-25 08:21:52 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Why do we overpay some egghead to chair the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities at the Center for Disease Control when Jenny McCarthy performs the same function for free AND she'll pop out the funbags if the situation warrants?

Now the guy running Herbalife making $89,000,000? That's common sense free market Founding Father job creator small businessheroics!


Are you suggesting our Federal workers should "pop out the funbags" occasionally? Because in far too many cases that's a frightening suggestion.
 
2012-12-25 08:31:36 AM  

simsite9: Wait a minute, how come $250k isn't very much money when your taxes might go up 4%, but $100k is more than anyone in government has any right to, no matter how good they are at their job, or how long they've been in it?


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2012-12-25 08:33:55 AM  
The people who make more than $100,000 dollars a year in the Federal Government are typically working executive level positions that would be compensated at least 1 million or more in the private sector.

They're taking a massive pay cut to serve their country and Breitbart is going to defame them as moochers and freeloaders? What BS.
 
2012-12-25 08:42:53 AM  

doglover: So 20% of federal employees make over $100,000.

Meanwhile,

[lasttechage.files.wordpress.com image 850x505]

20% of private sector employees made over $100,000. However, no one in the government, not even the POTUS makes millions.

In other words QFT and DIAF you fatcat plutocrats.


While I agree with the sentiment, you misread your graphic. 20% of private sector households, not employees, make over $100K.  Not quite the same thing.
 
2012-12-25 08:57:37 AM  
Its a Fark Christmas lump of coal, a Breitbart link!
 
2012-12-25 09:08:30 AM  

cmunic8r99: While I agree with the sentiment, you misread your graphic. 20% of private sector households, not employees, make over $100K. Not quite the same thing.


You're right. It's a damn disgrace that you have to marry someone and both of you have to work your asses off to make in a year a fraction of what executives who LOSE money for the company must receive in bonuses by contract. I can lose your company millions and tank the economy, too. Where's my farkin' bonus?

Those companies should be ashamed of themselves, as should the people writing this "article". The nerve.
 
2012-12-25 09:14:50 AM  
Snce this is DeadZombieMoran's site, I assume the correct amount is somewhere less than half of that in reality.
 
2012-12-25 09:21:09 AM  

SilentStrider: Snce this is DeadZombieMoran's site, I assume the correct amount is somewhere less than half of that in reality.


Nah, unemployment. If they want to work for free that's cool.
 
2012-12-25 09:21:52 AM  

doglover: However, no one in the government, not even the POTUS makes millions.


The highest salaries are sub-0.5M, and made by research physicians at NIH and CDC, who generally could be making quite a bit more in the private sector.
 
2012-12-25 09:26:20 AM  
Since when is $100k a lot of money?
 
2012-12-25 09:28:18 AM  
I have a family member in this category. Makes about half of what they could in the private sector.

The trade-off is the pension.
 
2012-12-25 09:45:56 AM  
Pictured: Breitbart.com writers hard at work manufacturing outrage!

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2012-12-25 09:59:34 AM  

doglover: 20% of private sector employees made over $100,000. However, no one in the government, not even the POTUS makes millions.

In other words QFT and DIAF you fatcat plutocrats.


This
 
2012-12-25 10:05:10 AM  
The article is just trolling.

Think for a minute who these employees actually are... federal prosecutors, federal judges, people working for decades in the FBI, etc.  These ladies and gents would be making several times as much working in the private sector.

My SO is a federal prosecutor and falls into this category.  To even be considered for the job you need to graduate in the top 5 percent of your class, have clerkship experience, etc.  Those kinds of qualifications are worth so much more in the private sector it's not even funny.
 
2012-12-25 10:15:58 AM  
I work for the government (GS-11), and let me say:

1. The government has been getting rid of lower-level jobs like janitors, cafeteria works, etc. for decades and replacing them with private contractors. As a result, the median wage of federal workers has increased if for no other reason than the government has abolished most lower-wage jobs. Imagine if Wal-Mart fired everyone working for less than $15-$20 an hour. Of course the average benefits of their workers would increase substantially.

2. I could be making a lot more in the private sector, but I prefer the job security. The benefits, while pretty good, are not nearly as great as they were 30 years ago. Also, pensions no longer exist. I think that only those employees hired before 1987 qualify for them. Instead we get a matching contribution of up to 5% to a 401k. I just put money into my own Roth IRA.

3. We have not had a real budget to work with for several years now, which means we can't plan ahead for the long-term, which kills efficiency across the board. Imagine trying to budget when you can't even get higher-ups to tell you that you'll have a certain amount of money to work with.
 
2012-12-25 10:17:49 AM  

log_jammin: claims that government employees make more money, work less, retire earlier, have greater job security, and have more retirement security than their private sector counterparts.

what a nightmare.


Don't forget the next sentence is accusing liberals of being jealous of, and trying to tear down the wealthy, rather than work harder or smarter to better their own position in life.
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2012-12-25 10:20:55 AM  
Making 100K a year in the DC area is okay but it ain't great.
 
2012-12-25 10:21:20 AM  

RexTalionis: The people who make more than $100,000 dollars a year in the Federal Government are typically working executive level positions that would be compensated at least 1 million or more in the private sector.

They're taking a massive pay cut to serve their country and Breitbart is going to defame them as moochers and freeloaders? What BS.


Also: many of the top-level Federal employees have to live in the DC/VA/MD area, where $100K/year doesn't go very far in terms of housing/RE taxes, etc.

And far worse, employees who work in really expensive parts of the country (Manhattan, San Fransisco, Hawaii) don't get any more money than those who work in Wyoming.
 
2012-12-25 10:22:49 AM  

serial_crusher: Since when is $100k a lot of money?


Since the strategy has turned into keeping the people making $30k/yr convinced that the people making between $50k and $200k are the ones farking their lives up in order to distract them from the fact that it's actually the people making $10M+ that are buying off politicians, paying them to write more laws that will put even more money in their pockets, and doing everything they can to not put a dime back into the economy.
 
2012-12-25 10:23:42 AM  
That's not even middle income in Romney land.
 
2012-12-25 10:25:38 AM  
It's like you people are actively supporting stratification.
 
2012-12-25 10:25:51 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Also: many of the top-level Federal employees have to live in the DC/VA/MD area, where $100K/year doesn't go very far in terms of housing/RE taxes, etc.


So if you're a file clerk making $30K a year in the DC/VA/MD area, should you be given a stipend in order to endure?

I figure if $100K doesn't go very far in that area, people making less than half of that should literally be starving to death under a bridge or something.
 
2012-12-25 10:26:03 AM  
Yet $50,000,000 CEO benefits will be defended to the end by the same people outraged by this as if you want a good job done, you have to pay good money to get good talent.
 
2012-12-25 10:26:10 AM  
In my Agency the only people that make over 100k are senior/specialized lawyers, some managers, and judges (lawyers). Considering that all of us evil government lawyers could make at least double, if not more, than our salary in the private sector, I don't think this is a problem. But don't let facts get in the way of your outrage.
 
2012-12-25 10:26:56 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: And far worse, employees who work in really expensive parts of the country (Manhattan, San Fransisco, Hawaii) don't get any more money than those who work in Wyoming.


Not true. There is locality based pay.

Here are the 2012 tables as an example:

https://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/indexgs.asp

It looks like a GS-11 in Manhattan would make $64729/year, while Wyoming (not covered by any specific locality listed) would make $57408/year.

It isn't enough to really make up for the cost of living between the two, but better than nothing.

For example, I live and work on the very edge of the greater DC area, so my locality adjustment is the same as for people working in downtown DC.
 
2012-12-25 10:27:19 AM  
How The Job Creating Grinch Was Usurped By Those Socialist Taker Whos in Whoville by deadmoran.com
 
2012-12-25 10:27:24 AM  
$500,000 X 100,000, that's a total of $50 billion.  So that's, like, the combined income of the top 100 Wall Street brokers.

No wonder Wall Street brokers are angry.  They only make an average of 1000 times as much per year as the average 100K+ federal employee.  It's getting to the point where there's no longer an incentive to be a top-tier Wall Street broker.  Why bother?  Better off staying at home and drawing welfare.
 
2012-12-25 10:30:44 AM  

WorldCitizen: Yet $50,000,000 CEO benefits will be defended to the end by the same people outraged by this as if you want a good job done, you have to pay good money to get good talent.


Neither Wall Street nor the public sector unions are going to do much for the people drowning in private sector slavery... our only hope is to play you two off against each other and fight for the crumbs that fall from the table.

zeroman987: In my Agency the only people that make over 100k are senior/specialized lawyers, some managers, and judges (lawyers). Considering that all of us evil government lawyers could make at least double, if not more, than our salary in the private sector, I don't think this is a problem. But don't let facts get in the way of your outrage.


Why don't you... lust for power? pension? or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
 
2012-12-25 10:30:49 AM  
How much does a Congressman make and what is his benefits?

How much does a Governor make?
 
2012-12-25 10:30:50 AM  
I'm currently making over $100,000 as a federal employee, but I also am sitting in a shipping container in Afghanistan and missing Christmas with my family. If you want to call me overpaid, get your ass on a plane to the Middle East and say it to my face.
 
2012-12-25 10:31:04 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Why do we overpay some egghead to chair the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities at the Center for Disease Control when Jenny McCarthy performs the same function for free AND she'll pop out the funbags if the situation warrants?

Now the guy running Herbalife making $89,000,000? That's common sense free market Founding Father job creator small businessheroics!


Mmmmm..... Outrageous salaries being paid to private company executives are based on voluntary contributions from the company's customers (at least I haven't heard that Herbalife puts guns to people's heads to force them to buy the product, but maybe I'm wrong about that). Somewhat less but often still outrageous salaries being paid to government workers is based on taxes taken on threat of force.

That being said, there are many government workers who are conscientiousness, do fine jobs (if not necessarily important ones) and work hard at it. There are, however, many that are not and do not. I've run into both.
 
2012-12-25 10:32:39 AM  

Serious Black: I'm currently making over $100,000 as a federal employee, but I also am sitting in a shipping container in Afghanistan and missing Christmas with my family. If you want to call me overpaid, get your ass on a plane to the Middle East and say it to my face.


Will you guys pay for the relocation, give me a premium for operating in a combat zone and waive my federal tax obligation for the time I'm in Afghanistan while granting me a generous per diem?
 
2012-12-25 10:32:39 AM  
Hell, from what I've been told...100k is lower middle class
 
2012-12-25 10:32:52 AM  
I guess my outrage is all drunk on eggnog because neither of us have a problem with this.
 
2012-12-25 10:33:33 AM  

Serious Black: I'm currently making over $100,000 as a federal employee, but I also am sitting in a shipping container in Afghanistan and missing Christmas with my family. If you want to call me overpaid, get your ass on a plane to the Middle East and say it to my face.


My sister was over there not a month ago. The contract changed, and they sent her home. My thoughts are with you.

Take it easy, & merry Christmas!
 
2012-12-25 10:33:45 AM  

log_jammin: claims that government employees make more money, work less, retire earlier, have greater job security, and have more retirement security than their private sector counterparts.

what a nightmare.


It's conservative circular, logic at it's finest: spend 30 years driving down private sector wages, then complain about high public sector wages.
 
2012-12-25 10:34:45 AM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Serious Black: I'm currently making over $100,000 as a federal employee, but I also am sitting in a shipping container in Afghanistan and missing Christmas with my family. If you want to call me overpaid, get your ass on a plane to the Middle East and say it to my face.

Will you guys pay for the relocation, give me a premium for operating in a combat zone and waive my federal tax obligation for the time I'm in Afghanistan while granting me a generous per diem?


Sure! All you have to do is go in to combat!
 
2012-12-25 10:35:13 AM  
yeah, it's called congress.
 
2012-12-25 10:35:19 AM  

Sid_6.7: It looks like a GS-11 in Manhattan would make $64729/year, while Wyoming (not covered by any specific locality listed) would make $57408/year.


I had a feeling I was wrong on that. Thanks for coming up with real numbers. And $64K doesn't go very far in NYC.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: So if you're a file clerk making $30K a year in the DC/VA/MD area, should you be given a stipend in order to endure?

I figure if $100K doesn't go very far in that area, people making less than half of that should literally be starving to death under a bridge or something.


If you're a file clerk in DC, you're likely commuting an almost stupid distance to somewhere you can afford to live, an hour or more away from where you actually work.
 
2012-12-25 10:35:28 AM  

RexTalionis: The people who make more than $100,000 dollars a year in the Federal Government are typically working executive level positions that would be compensated at least 1 million or more in the private sector.

They're taking a massive pay cut to serve their country and Breitbart is going to defame them as moochers and freeloaders? What BS.


Gotta agree with this. HOWEVER: when was the last time you heard about a high level government bureaucrat retiring poorer than when he came into government service? The pay is less, but there are other compensations. The full family coverage medical/dental/vision/mental health insurance is nice. The defined-benefit pension for 20 years of service is also nice. As are the "gifts" one gets from all the lobbyists.
 
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