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(Telegraph)   With the Red Menace over, The Doctor is sad because he has to star in his own show again. Will Intergalactic Lesbians, a redesigned TARDIS, and his new companion's lovely Dalek Bumps be enough to cheer him up in Doctor Who: "The Snowmen"?   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 310
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2012-12-25 09:19:55 PM

Rwa2play: This. The opening credits (including an image of Matt): Cool actually; the music's still meh though.


I actually like the new theme music. Sounds like a bit of a throwback to some of the theme music.
 
2012-12-25 09:23:31 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Rwa2play: This. The opening credits (including an image of Matt): Cool actually; the music's still meh though.

I actually like the new theme music. Sounds like a bit of a throwback to some of the theme music.


Yeah, my bad. Still have the bitter taste of the last theme in my mouth; this one's a little minimalistic.

As for the graphics: taking it back to the second doctor's opening credits and to that of the opening credits for McCoy's Doctor. NIIIIIIIICE.
 
2012-12-25 09:32:43 PM
I'm sorry but...this episode's turning out to be all sorts of...

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bakerthebrand.com
 
2012-12-25 09:33:04 PM
Pond?!?
 
2012-12-25 09:34:53 PM
So Sherlock was based on a lizard lesbian with a sword!?
 
2012-12-25 09:35:41 PM

flamingboar: So Sherlock was based on a lizard lesbian with a sword!?


Yes, that's one of the worst kept literary secrets.
 
2012-12-25 09:35:50 PM

flamingboar: So Sherlock was based on a lizard lesbian with a sword!?


Hey now, a badass lesbian at that.
 
2012-12-25 09:35:55 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: demonfaerie: HopScotchNSoda: sirbissel: Dingleberry Dickwad: Gunny Walker: VTGremlin: I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.

Right, you'll think you have it partway through, then at the end, you'll know nothing.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking when I saw it. At first when she said her name and also mentioned souffles I was all "Aha!" then later I went all "WTF?"

I just hope they don't make them have any sort of romantic thing...

I think until his next regeneration, he'll stay monogamous for River. Despite time-travel effectively negating widowhood and divorce, I get the impression that regeneration breaks the marriage contract. The First Doctor presumably had a wife, as it would not have been acceptable to the BBC or viewing public in 1963 for Susan to have been the product of illegitimacy, even though Hartnell himself was a bastard in real life. The Tenth Doctor married and abandoned Liz One. The Eleventh Doctor married River.

Does the 11th Doctor even get it on with River? I know they are married, but I thought married her because she loved him a lot, and that he would feel guilty about what she sacrifices her life for him.

I'm going to guess yes. My memory could be fading, but I could swear River has hinted to it before, but it's always an offscreen type deal.



Yes, he stated as much to Dorium at the end of "The Wedding of River Song" in response to his comment that River would spend the rest of her days in prison. "Her days, yes. Her nights -- well, that's between us," or something like that. It was also implied in "First Night" when the Doctor assured her that her parents were asleep. Besides, do you really think that River would put up with a monogamous marriage? Every impression she's given is that she has an even higher libido than her mother.
 
2012-12-25 09:37:26 PM
I was worried this one wouldn't hold my interest. But it has.
 
2012-12-25 09:38:31 PM
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2012-12-25 09:45:39 PM
" I'm the clever one, and your the potato one!" Is the best line ever uttered in human history.
 
2012-12-25 09:48:17 PM

flamingboar: " I'm the clever one, and your the potato one!" Is the best line ever uttered in human history.


"She said you might need grenades."

"She might have said 'help'."
 
2012-12-25 09:57:46 PM
This is the most times I've been secondhand quoted in the history of my life. It totally makes up for Christmas being the worst day of the year. I truly hope every single person here enjoys the special.
 
2012-12-25 09:58:29 PM
Anyone else getting a Mary Poppins vibe from this?
 
2012-12-25 10:03:05 PM
Ok, that was probably the best Christmas special I can remember.
 
2012-12-25 10:03:47 PM

flamingboar: " I'm the clever one, and your the potato one!" Is the best line ever uttered in human history.


I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops!
 
2012-12-25 10:12:45 PM
OK, I expect to see Souffle Girl running in every episode.
 
2012-12-25 10:13:29 PM
I demand more Vastra, Jenny, and Strax.
 
2012-12-25 10:14:44 PM

texdent: Anyone else getting a Mary Poppins vibe from this?


I just watched Hogfather for the first time a couple weeks ago, so that's where my mind went first.
 
2012-12-25 10:18:23 PM

Dwight_Yeast: flamingboar: " I'm the clever one, and your the potato one!" Is the best line ever uttered in human history.

I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops!



I think you mean, "I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops, human scum!"
 
2012-12-25 10:20:01 PM
*scratches head* So she gets reincarnated? Cloned? The universe retcons her?
 
2012-12-25 10:20:45 PM
new control room but no new doctor?

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-25 10:20:49 PM

irving47: Dwight_Yeast: flamingboar: " I'm the clever one, and your the potato one!" Is the best line ever uttered in human history.

I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops!


I think you mean, "I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops, human scum!"


I can count to Rutan!
 
2012-12-25 10:20:49 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

So this half-season is "Who is really Clara Owsin Oswald?"

Hmmmmmm....this is good. I think I'm gonna enjoy this mystery.
 
2012-12-25 10:21:04 PM
Okay, that was a great holiday special.
 
2012-12-25 10:22:33 PM

RevMercutio: I demand more Vastra, Jenny, and Strax.


So much this.

WE WANT MOAR VASTRA, JENNY AND STRAX!
 
2012-12-25 10:24:25 PM
interesting ending, anoyher Moffit tie into future episodes.

Saved for my next day off, when I can fully comprehend the littlehints left behind. I like the potato reference. Agreed therre should be a photoshop.
 
2012-12-25 10:24:42 PM

texdent: *scratches head* So she gets reincarnated? Cloned? The universe retcons her?


Ahhh...but there would be no mystery if it were spoiled early.
 
2012-12-25 10:28:40 PM
I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops!


I think you mean, "I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops, human scum!"
 
2012-12-25 10:30:16 PM

Rwa2play: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

So this half-season is "Who is really Clara Owsin Oswald?"

Hmmmmmm....this is good. I think I'm gonna enjoy this mystery.


Does this mean the Doctor meets a new Clara every episode? It should be called "Fifty First Dates 2: Doctor Who?
 
2012-12-25 10:30:46 PM

HopScotchNSoda: Dingleberry Dickwad: demonfaerie: HopScotchNSoda: sirbissel: Dingleberry Dickwad: Gunny Walker: VTGremlin: I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.

Right, you'll think you have it partway through, then at the end, you'll know nothing.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking when I saw it. At first when she said her name and also mentioned souffles I was all "Aha!" then later I went all "WTF?"

I just hope they don't make them have any sort of romantic thing...

I think until his next regeneration, he'll stay monogamous for River. Despite time-travel effectively negating widowhood and divorce, I get the impression that regeneration breaks the marriage contract. The First Doctor presumably had a wife, as it would not have been acceptable to the BBC or viewing public in 1963 for Susan to have been the product of illegitimacy, even though Hartnell himself was a bastard in real life. The Tenth Doctor married and abandoned Liz One. The Eleventh Doctor married River.

Does the 11th Doctor even get it on with River? I know they are married, but I thought married her because she loved him a lot, and that he would feel guilty about what she sacrifices her life for him.

I'm going to guess yes. My memory could be fading, but I could swear River has hinted to it before, but it's always an offscreen type deal.


Yes, he stated as much to Dorium at the end of "The Wedding of River Song" in response to his comment that River would spend the rest of her days in prison. "Her days, yes. Her nights -- well, that's between us," or something like that. It was also implied in "First Night" when the Doctor assured her that her parents were asleep. Besides, do you really think that River would put up with a monogamous marriage? Every impression she's given is that she has an even higher libido than he ...


Isn't there a "I'm quite the screamer....there's a spoiler for you" from the one season opener?

Also, why is there not a STRAX based I can count to potato picture?
 
2012-12-25 10:32:07 PM

diaphoresis: new control room but no new doctor?

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The new control room was because they moved studios where the show is made and decided to build a new design rather than try to move/rebuild the old one. And the old one was only introduced because with 11 they started making DW in HD and needed a HD set so had to trash Ten's.
 
2012-12-25 10:37:57 PM

flamingboar: So Sherlock was based on a lizard lesbian with a sword!?


And Hugh Laurie's House nailed it perfectly.
 
2012-12-25 10:39:15 PM
I quite liked it! It was definitely the best Christmas episode by far, they're usually entertaining but that one was actually really enjoyable as well.

"Takes one to snow one" had the corny man in me dying of laughter :P
 
2012-12-25 10:39:16 PM

flamingboar: " I'm the clever one, and your the potato one!" Is the best line ever uttered in human history.


Hmmm, not to nit pick, but human?
 
2012-12-25 10:44:59 PM

irving47: I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops!


I think you mean, "I demand Sontaran potato meme Photoshops, human scum!"


"I can count to Strax, human scum! Then the grenade will obliterate you!"

/Clara-Oswald is the new Kenny?
//wtf was that cold sore on Jenny??
 
2012-12-25 10:45:51 PM

Rwa2play: The opening credits (including an image of Matt): Cool actually; the music's still meh though.

That's another revived element of the original series. Matt Smith is the first Doctor to appear in the main titles since McCoy. It was a signature element, except during the Colin Baker era when Six looked entirely too smarmy.

I'm not going to go into the Clara/Oswin thing, except that Moffat is going to have a lot of fun with us over Season 7's back nine. Ok, maybe one part. It is unusual that the Doctor is now chasing the girl.
 
2012-12-25 10:50:34 PM
Someone is attempting to break Rory's record of most deaths by a companion?

Inconceivable!
 
2012-12-25 10:51:22 PM
We all thought that Clara was going to be replacing Amy, but it looks like she's really the new Rory.
 
2012-12-25 11:01:57 PM

Mad_Radhu: We all thought that Clara was going to be replacing Amy, but it looks like she's really the new Rory.


I'm okay with this.
 
2012-12-25 11:13:41 PM

Funbags: [i166.photobucket.com image 700x564]

Did someone say "Intergalactic Lesbians"?


Tegan was too hard-boiled to stick to one end of the spectrum.

/She knocked Adric out for fark's sake. I don't care if that's not accounting for much.
 
2012-12-25 11:14:58 PM

dramatools: Rwa2play: The opening credits (including an image of Matt): Cool actually; the music's still meh though.
That's another revived element of the original series. Matt Smith is the first Doctor to appear in the main titles since McCoy.


Unless you count 2003's "Scream of the Shalka", starring Richard E. Grant as the original Ninth Doctor. His cartoon face was shown in the opening sequence, even though the practice had not been used for McCoy or McGann in 1996.
"Scream of the Shalka" had been produced by the Beeb as canon, but was then de-canonised by Davies who - understandably - didn't want an animated Doctor included in the mix with the live-action actors.
 
2012-12-25 11:15:53 PM
I generally liked it, but I found the ending a little underwhelming. I am however interested in Clara's angle. Me likey Clara, but I was really hoping she would be a Victorian era companion instead of modern day. Oh well.

I also liked the face in the credits and the new TARDIS interior. Makes me curious if Moff's making some old school touches to prepare newer viewers for older Doctors.
 
2012-12-25 11:22:37 PM

HopScotchNSoda: Unless you count 2003's "Scream of the Shalka", starring Richard E. Grant [...]


Good catch. Obviously Grant's appearance in this episode wasn't lost on you. There's also a suggestion of the Shalka Doctor when Eleven pours himself a shot of whiskey (though we don't actually see him imbibe).
 
2012-12-25 11:37:36 PM
Amazingly awesome episode. Seriously thought the Intelligence's voice was Professor X, not Magneto.
 
2012-12-25 11:46:26 PM
Very enjoyable episode. The whole snowman as the threat was pretty weak but everything else about the episode was great. I like the subtle tie in with the ponds, Clara's curiosity, and future mystery about who she is. Looks to be a good second half of the season although pretty confusing based on how this character is going to tie in. I hope they don't completely ignore the whole Silence aspect and the first question fate of the doctor.
 
2012-12-25 11:48:38 PM

Pawn takes the King: Amazingly awesome episode. Seriously thought the Intelligence's voice was Professor X, not Magneto.


You're thinking of the wrong wizard. Saruman, not Gandalf.
 
2012-12-25 11:48:53 PM

Lord Binky: I also liked the face in the credits and the new TARDIS interior. Makes me curious if Moff's making some old school touches to prepare newer viewers for older Doctors.


The new interior (aside from being awesome) has a really important feature: the spinning discs above the console are covered in round forms which have previously been identified as Gallifreian glyphs, which helps bring the interior back into line with Galifrey technology.
 
2012-12-25 11:54:46 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Lord Binky: I also liked the face in the credits and the new TARDIS interior. Makes me curious if Moff's making some old school touches to prepare newer viewers for older Doctors.

The new interior (aside from being awesome) has a really important feature: the spinning discs above the console are covered in round forms which have previously been identified as Gallifreian glyphs, which helps bring the interior back into line with Galifrey technology.


The Tardis since 2005 has always had the round forms. They were usually just hidden or blended into the background. Even during this episode I didn't really see any prominent Gallifreyan parts of the Tardis. The new Tardis looks a lot closer to the copied Tardis the Doctor found in "The Lodger" which seems to be implied that the Silence came up with it. Makes for an interesting foreshawdow.
 
2012-12-25 11:56:18 PM

Flint Ironstag: diaphoresis: new control room but no new doctor?

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The new control room was because they moved studios where the show is made and decided to build a new design rather than try to move/rebuild the old one. And the old one was only introduced because with 11 they started making DW in HD and needed a HD set so had to trash Ten's.


In-story it works well too, because the old control room would remind him of the Ponds. Perfect excuse for changing the desktop theme.
 
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