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(Telegraph)   With the Red Menace over, The Doctor is sad because he has to star in his own show again. Will Intergalactic Lesbians, a redesigned TARDIS, and his new companion's lovely Dalek Bumps be enough to cheer him up in Doctor Who: "The Snowmen"?   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 310
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2012-12-25 04:22:14 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: Last year's, The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe was far from bland. It was a real tear jerker. But this year's was fantastic. Can't wait to see how this unfolds. Interesting Rani concept, we'll see.


Two years ago gets points for introducing the phrase "Halfway through the dark."
 
2012-12-25 04:40:09 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: People are already biatching about the new title sequence.

/Moffat's overwhelmed as a showrunner
//Snowmen with fans=ridiculous
///not as ridiculous as his timey wimey explanations over the past few episodes


I absolutely love the new sequence. Nice old-school touch with the portrait of the Doctor appearing.
 
2012-12-25 04:53:58 PM  
Will Intergalactic Lesbians, a redesigned TARDIS, and his new companion's lovely Dalek Bumps be enough to cheer him up in Doctor Who: "The Snowmen"?

Nope, it won't be enough to do that. Nor will it be enough to pull out of the ratings dive.
 
2012-12-25 05:10:30 PM  
Loved the new title sequence, it was brilliant. Evocative of old school Doctor Who and the era of early video effects while being thoroughly modern. This was my best Christmas present today. Nice twisty story.
 
2012-12-25 05:10:48 PM  

Balchinian: Will Intergalactic Lesbians, a redesigned TARDIS, and his new companion's lovely Dalek Bumps be enough to cheer him up in Doctor Who: "The Snowmen"?

Nope, it won't be enough to do that. Nor will it be enough to pull out of the ratings dive.


Not sure about where the BBC ratings are (and you have to consider timeshifting via iPlayer in those total numbers), but BBCA ratings are at a record high, and the show is consistently at the top of the iTunes and Amazon charts. If the show is in decline, it must be in Pete's World or something. It certainly isn't in trouble in our universe,
 
2012-12-25 05:22:40 PM  

ClintonKun: As adorkable Clara/Oswin is, I'll miss Amy Pond's legs. Hope Jenna Louise Coleman continues the tradition.

Sorry, no legs in this episode. It's all bustle and what not.
Also, I think the new sequence is pretty dang cool.
Like a bow tie.
 
2012-12-25 05:25:02 PM  
Another callback to classic Who:

The Great Intelligence was the villain in the Patrick Troughton story "The Web of Fear"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/weboffear/detail .s html

Oh yeah, the new voice of the Great Intelligence is Ian McKellen
 
2012-12-25 05:51:46 PM  

rmatthewware: Same actress, different character.


I know something you don't!
 
2012-12-25 06:08:43 PM  

enforcerpsu: Look what I got!

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 454x271]


A license plate made from psychic paper?

Seriously. Unless some of the BritFarkers want to drop some spoilers, we still don't know if Oswin and Clara have any sort of relationship (and spare me the inevitable suggestion of Jenna-Louise Coleman making out with herself since Oswin was bi-curious). For all we know, there may be something. Conversely, Moffat could just be f--king with us, and dropped the lovely Ms. Coleman in "Asylum of the Daleks" as a red herring.  Meanwhile, here she is doing her best impression of Myleene Klass:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-25 06:16:25 PM  

dramatools: Seriously. Unless some of the BritFarkers want to drop some spoilers, we still don't know if Oswin and Clara have any sort of relationship (and spare me the inevitable suggestion of Jenna-Louise Coleman making out with herself since Oswin was bi-curious). For all we know, there may be something. Conversely, Moffat could just be f--king with us, and dropped the lovely Ms. Coleman in "Asylum of the Daleks" as a red herring.  Meanwhile, here she is doing her best impression of Myleene Klass:


I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.
 
2012-12-25 06:32:06 PM  
What VTGremlin said. It hints and hints, while feeding you crumbs, then surprises you at the end.
 
2012-12-25 06:46:35 PM  

superbeerchan: Oh yeah, the new voice of the Great Intelligence is Ian McKellen


I sound like Ian McKellen now. Ian McKellen is cool.

Interesting that Tardis.Wikia has already decided that it's definitely the same Great Intelligence. It's likely, but not a given. The show is general shy about bringing back obscure villains, although some robot yeti would be pretty badass.

Pity they don't have Nicholas Courtney to give them the old what-for.
 
2012-12-25 07:01:17 PM  
2 hours!!
 
2012-12-25 07:03:51 PM  

dramatools: enforcerpsu: Look what I got!

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 454x271]

A license plate made from psychic paper?

Seriously. Unless some of the BritFarkers want to drop some spoilers, we still don't know if Oswin and Clara have any sort of relationship (and spare me the inevitable suggestion of Jenna-Louise Coleman making out with herself since Oswin was bi-curious). For all we know, there may be something. Conversely, Moffat could just be f--king with us, and dropped the lovely Ms. Coleman in "Asylum of the Daleks" as a red herring.  Meanwhile, here she is doing her best impression of Myleene Klass:

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 267x400]


And here's some work she did before Doctor Who

NSFW
 
2012-12-25 07:06:36 PM  
It's cooler.
 
2012-12-25 07:07:03 PM  

VTGremlin: I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.


Right, you'll think you have it partway through, then at the end, you'll know nothing.
 
2012-12-25 07:07:54 PM  
Also: Hooray! They brought the face back!
 
2012-12-25 07:15:28 PM  

sirbissel: Also: Hooray! They brought the face back!


That made me so happy that I rewound it to watch again.
 
2012-12-25 07:18:21 PM  

sirbissel: Also: Hooray! They brought the face back!


I missed the face. Where was it?
 
2012-12-25 07:22:53 PM  
My friend who is a huge Doctor Who fan, or so he says; refuses to watch the new Christmas special. The reason being is because he thinks the Doctor is a whiny emo biatch. He really thinks the 11th Doctor is emo, and that last two Christmas specials he has been whiny, and full of emo. I don't get how, because the 10th  Doctor became really whiny and emo during the end of his run.
 
2012-12-25 07:23:19 PM  

sirbissel: Also: Hooray! They brought the face back!


Wait, the face in the opening scene. Sorry. I thought you meant The Face Of Boe. I'm an idiot.
 
2012-12-25 07:32:49 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Nope, it won't be enough to do that. Nor will it be enough to pull out of the ratings dive.

Not sure about where the BBC ratings are (and you have to consider timeshifting via iPlayer in those total numbers), but BBCA ratings are at a record high, and the show is consistently at the top of the iTunes and Amazon charts. If the show is in decline, it must be in Pete's World or something. It certainly isn't in trouble in our universe,


Balchinian is a troll. A truly sad troll who enjoys trolling Doctor Who threads. Ignore him, which is all he deserves.

/Entertainment tab trolls are sad sad people.
 
2012-12-25 07:34:26 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Mad_Radhu: Nope, it won't be enough to do that. Nor will it be enough to pull out of the ratings dive.

Not sure about where the BBC ratings are (and you have to consider timeshifting via iPlayer in those total numbers), but BBCA ratings are at a record high, and the show is consistently at the top of the iTunes and Amazon charts. If the show is in decline, it must be in Pete's World or something. It certainly isn't in trouble in our universe,

Balchinian is a troll. A truly sad troll who enjoys trolling Doctor Who threads. Ignore him, which is all he deserves.

/Entertainment tab trolls are sad sad people.


If that's what Entertainment tab trolls are like, I don't think I want to venture into the politics tab
 
2012-12-25 07:37:00 PM  
"Those were the days" will make you sad unless you're a robot.
 
2012-12-25 07:38:49 PM  
"Do you have a goldfish named Colin? No. I thought not!"
 
2012-12-25 07:39:07 PM  

t3knomanser: superbeerchan: Oh yeah, the new voice of the Great Intelligence is Ian McKellen

Interesting that Tardis.Wikia has already decided that it's definitely the same Great Intelligence. It's likely, but not a given. The show is general shy about bringing back obscure villains, although some robot yeti would be pretty badass.



The fact that the Doctor had his 1967 London Underground map and talked about its strategic importance pretty strongly implies that it is the same Great Intelligence. Also, what's another name by which a Yeti is known? That's right, an "abominable snowman".

New on-going characters tend to get introduced in Great Intelligence stories: Victoria Waterfield in The Abominable Snowmen, Colonel Lethbridge-Stewart & Cpl. Benton (although not named yet) in The Web of Fear, Kate Lethbridge-Stewart in Downtime, and now Clara (by that name) in "The Snowmen".
Also remember who was introduced the last time we saw the Great Intelligence: Kate Lethbridge-Stewart.
 
2012-12-25 07:41:11 PM  
^ sorry; editing screw-up.
 
2012-12-25 07:46:08 PM  

Woolwine: If that's what Entertainment tab trolls are like, I don't think I want to venture into the politics tab


I recommend grenades.
 
2012-12-25 07:47:03 PM  

sirbissel: Also: Hooray! They brought the face back!


Only appropriate then that Grant should guest star, since his cartoon visage was the last Doctoral face to be used in the opening credits.

If you want to stick with actors' own faces, maybe the umbrella was included as a reference to McCoy (along with Clara being basically Ace with a dash of Jack's imortality and bisexuality thrown in for good measure).
 
2012-12-25 08:00:18 PM  
Ooops, sorry. I screwed up. Victoria wasn't introduced in The Abominable Snowmen. I think I mixed that up because of Deborah Watling's father playing Prof. Travers.
 
2012-12-25 08:07:59 PM  

Woolwine: If that's what Entertainment tab trolls are like, I don't think I want to venture into the politics tab


It's Darwinian selection: trolls who can't make it in the Politics tab move to Business (which is where the truly insane here post) or Geek tabs. If they can't make it there, they end up trolling the Entertainment tab, and by that point, they seem to specialize, only trolling one easy type of thread: ie, Doctor Who or Firefly.

They are the bottom-feeders of this website, the lowest of the low.
 
2012-12-25 08:10:34 PM  
I liked it. Some parts were a little hit or miss...(I think they relied on the Strax as comedic relief well a bit too much) But it does set up the coming series nicely...
 
2012-12-25 08:18:57 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: ClintonKun: As adorkable Clara/Oswin is, I'll miss Amy Pond's legs. Hope Jenna Louise Coleman continues the tradition.

Are you kidding me? Yeah Karen Gillan was always wearing skirts but the girl had chopstick legs. Jenna Louise Coleman on the other hand looks to have some meatier legs. Here's hoping she shows them more often.


i2.listal.com

And one more not showing legs, just because.

i2.listal.com
 
2012-12-25 08:20:46 PM  

Balchinian: Will Intergalactic Lesbians, a redesigned TARDIS, and his new companion's lovely Dalek Bumps be enough to cheer him up in Doctor Who: "The Snowmen"?

Nope, it won't be enough to do that. Nor will it be enough to pull out of the ratings dive.


You should work in retail. That show has never been bigger stateside.
 
2012-12-25 08:33:41 PM  

Gunny Walker: VTGremlin: I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.

Right, you'll think you have it partway through, then at the end, you'll know nothing.


Yeah pretty much what I was thinking when I saw it. At first when she said her name and also mentioned souffles I was all "Aha!" then later I went all "WTF?"
 
2012-12-25 08:35:29 PM  
Meanwhile Syfy is having a marathon of K-9.
 
2012-12-25 08:35:58 PM  
I was going to look at this, then I remembered that Dr. Who sucks.
 
2012-12-25 08:44:41 PM  
i166.photobucket.com

Did someone say "Intergalactic Lesbians"?
 
2012-12-25 08:46:29 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Gunny Walker: VTGremlin: I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.

Right, you'll think you have it partway through, then at the end, you'll know nothing.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking when I saw it. At first when she said her name and also mentioned souffles I was all "Aha!" then later I went all "WTF?"


I just hope they don't make them have any sort of romantic thing...
 
2012-12-25 08:50:18 PM  

flamingboar: Meanwhile Syfy is having a marathon of K-9.


I watched it via a torrent last year. Ugh. Horrible. The only highlight was the time-travel in "The Cambridge Spy" -- to 23 November 1963.

Only the girl was transported, not K-9; otherwise, they'd have to come up with a reason why K-9's myriad sensors didn't notice the infestation of Daleks at the Coal Hill School, the Hand of Omega at the cemetery, nor the TARDIS' energy waves emanating from the Foreman junk yard. The setting did go into the evening, but there wasn't a television to be turned off just when the announcer said, "This is BBC television. The time is quarter past five and Saturday viewing continues with an adventure in the new science fiction series Do..."
By the way, speaking of that date, it was cute having Clara Oswin Oswald born 94 years to the day before Lee Harvey Oswald died.
 
2012-12-25 08:51:36 PM  

UnderwaterAlly: I was going to look at this, then I remembered that Dr. Who sucks.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-25 08:55:49 PM  

Woolwine: NSFW


Real and spectacular. That's certainly something to check the ol' sonic screwdriver with before tonight's episode.
 
2012-12-25 08:56:51 PM  

sirbissel: I just hope they don't make them have any sort of romantic thing...


Too late.

/Liked the red dress
 
2012-12-25 08:57:32 PM  

sirbissel: Dingleberry Dickwad: Gunny Walker: VTGremlin: I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.

Right, you'll think you have it partway through, then at the end, you'll know nothing.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking when I saw it. At first when she said her name and also mentioned souffles I was all "Aha!" then later I went all "WTF?"

I just hope they don't make them have any sort of romantic thing...


I think until his next regeneration, he'll stay monogamous for River. Despite time-travel effectively negating widowhood and divorce, I get the impression that regeneration breaks the marriage contract. The First Doctor presumably had a wife, as it would not have been acceptable to the BBC or viewing public in 1963 for Susan to have been the product of illegitimacy, even though Hartnell himself was a bastard in real life. The Tenth Doctor married and abandoned Liz One. The Eleventh Doctor married River.
 
2012-12-25 09:05:14 PM  

HopScotchNSoda: sirbissel: Dingleberry Dickwad: Gunny Walker: VTGremlin: I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.

Right, you'll think you have it partway through, then at the end, you'll know nothing.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking when I saw it. At first when she said her name and also mentioned souffles I was all "Aha!" then later I went all "WTF?"

I just hope they don't make them have any sort of romantic thing...

I think until his next regeneration, he'll stay monogamous for River. Despite time-travel effectively negating widowhood and divorce, I get the impression that regeneration breaks the marriage contract. The First Doctor presumably had a wife, as it would not have been acceptable to the BBC or viewing public in 1963 for Susan to have been the product of illegitimacy, even though Hartnell himself was a bastard in real life. The Tenth Doctor married and abandoned Liz One. The Eleventh Doctor married River.


Does the 11th Doctor even get it on with River? I know they are married, but I thought married her because she loved him a lot, and that he would feel guilty about what she sacrifices her life for him.
 
2012-12-25 09:10:32 PM  
I will say this about the Christmas special. While I certainly enjoyed it, the signs seem to be there for another "most special person in the universe" type companion that wants to jump the Doctor's bones, which I really don't want again. I mean the special was fun and touching, but given the way she kissed the Doctor and the whole mystery surrounding her and what you see at the end of the episode, it all points down to "super special girl" type stuff.
 
2012-12-25 09:11:46 PM  

DerAppie: sirbissel: I just hope they don't make them have any sort of romantic thing...

Too late.

/Liked the red dress


I know there was the thing in this episode, but I'm hoping maybe that won't carry over into the next few episodes (or however long this goes for)
 
2012-12-25 09:15:08 PM  

demonfaerie: HopScotchNSoda: sirbissel: Dingleberry Dickwad: Gunny Walker: VTGremlin: I'll spoiler the fark out of it as an Amerifarker who torrents and watched it a few hours ago. Whatever you think, it's not what you think. Or what I thought prior to the episode airing. You'll be intrigued. And it could be awesome.

Right, you'll think you have it partway through, then at the end, you'll know nothing.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking when I saw it. At first when she said her name and also mentioned souffles I was all "Aha!" then later I went all "WTF?"

I just hope they don't make them have any sort of romantic thing...

I think until his next regeneration, he'll stay monogamous for River. Despite time-travel effectively negating widowhood and divorce, I get the impression that regeneration breaks the marriage contract. The First Doctor presumably had a wife, as it would not have been acceptable to the BBC or viewing public in 1963 for Susan to have been the product of illegitimacy, even though Hartnell himself was a bastard in real life. The Tenth Doctor married and abandoned Liz One. The Eleventh Doctor married River.

Does the 11th Doctor even get it on with River? I know they are married, but I thought married her because she loved him a lot, and that he would feel guilty about what she sacrifices her life for him.


I'm going to guess yes. My memory could be fading, but I could swear River has hinted to it before, but it's always an offscreen type deal.
 
2012-12-25 09:15:45 PM  
It's on! Pretty awesome so far
 
2012-12-25 09:16:54 PM  

dramatools: enforcerpsu: Look what I got!

[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 454x271]

A license plate made from psychic paper?

Seriously. Unless some of the BritFarkers want to drop some spoilers, we still don't know if Oswin and Clara have any sort of relationship (and spare me the inevitable suggestion of Jenna-Louise Coleman making out with herself since Oswin was bi-curious). For all we know, there may be something. Conversely, Moffat could just be f--king with us, and dropped the lovely Ms. Coleman in "Asylum of the Daleks" as a red herring.  Meanwhile, here she is doing her best impression of Myleene Klass:

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 267x400]


Mmmmm yummmy.

KawaiiNot: It's on! Pretty awesome so far


This. The opening credits (including an image of Matt): Cool actually; the music's still meh though.
 
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