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2012-12-25 11:35:00 AM  

stealthd: That's not how crime works.


Wolf_Blitzer: Or, I can pick an address that *is* listed, wait until no one is home, and then walk out with some firearms that will sell very nicely on the black market.

The vast majority of burglars operate when the home is vacant, something your vaunted guns will do nothing to protect against.


stealthd - Yes. Yes it does work that way. I spent enough time in the public defender's office to be able to tell you that criminals are always looking out for an easy, quick, safe hit.

Wolf_Blitzer - Which is why responsible firearms owners keep their guns in a secure spot. Something which, unfortunately, does not describe enough firearms owners. We had a rash of gun thefts here a few years ago, to the point that our prosecutor went on the record and told the public to lock their stuff up. Fortunately none of the stolen weapons were used locally that I know of. Most of them were recovered when the thieves tried to swap them for a metric butt load of rave drugs.
 
2012-12-25 11:35:22 AM  

NewportBarGuy: coco ebert: Oh, my. Judging from the comments, we have a quite a number of revolutionaries on our hands here.

What purpose does this serve? I've tried to find a positive aspect and found none.


well, maybe people who want guns will realize that it is better to get one and not register it.
that will result in lower fees for the county
the county can make that up by taxing the rich more.
 
2012-12-25 11:36:00 AM  
What's next? Registering knives? Then they will make us register baseball bats. Then maybe our Laser Tag blasters. The next thing you know Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot is marching down Main Street.

Wake up people. Second Amendment!

/derp
 
2012-12-25 11:36:42 AM  
It's ok. I mean, we know that robbers wouldn't possibly attack a red-blooded American who has a gun at his disposal, right?
 
2012-12-25 11:37:18 AM  
Excellent move!

Now criminals know which houses not to hit. Publishing records gives them a head-start on those who've chosen to be defenseless and victims.

Evolution in Action™
 
2012-12-25 11:37:40 AM  
i1121.photobucket.com

So, if the hysterical Gun-Grabbers are right, a map showing gun-related crimes should correlate very closely to the above.

Red areas: High gun crime.
Non-red: Crime Free Zones.

Right?
 
2012-12-25 11:37:48 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: doglover: "How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families...,"

Please do.

The publisher, the publisher's home alarm security code, the publisher's favorite nine-martini-lunch restaurant, the publisher's country club tee times and the dates he tells his family he's going to a men's fellowship meeting but really goes to Dita's Dungeon to be tied up with extension cords and repeatedly violated with a bottle of Pert by a shaved midget albino.


** fap **
 
2012-12-25 11:39:08 AM  
I've been toying with putting up a sign along the following lines:

Posted - Any forced entry, including no-knock warrnats by law enforcement, will be repelled with deadly force.

I want to see how my mostly SUV driving upper middle class neigbours might react, and whether it will curb people leaving leaflets.
 
2012-12-25 11:39:22 AM  
Keep reloading because I sure as hell ain't finished honking and you need the target practice, grandmom.
 
2012-12-25 11:39:35 AM  
I live in the south. I go under the assumption that I am the only one in my neighborhood who doesn't own a gun.
 
2012-12-25 11:39:58 AM  
Wait, I thought all you Fark gun nuts were responsible gun owners, that kept their guns locked up and secured. You know, unlike Nancy Lanza. If you are telling the truth, noone will be able to break in and steal your guns.

If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear, gun-owning citizen.
 
2012-12-25 11:40:34 AM  

shanrick: Mr. Coffee Nerves: doglover: "How about a map of the editorial staff and publishers of Gannett and Journal News with names and addresses of their families...,"

Please do.

The publisher, the publisher's home alarm security code, the publisher's favorite nine-martini-lunch restaurant, the publisher's country club tee times and the dates he tells his family he's going to a men's fellowship meeting but really goes to Dita's Dungeon to be tied up with extension cords and repeatedly violated with a bottle of Pert by a shaved midget albino.

[i.imgur.com image 290x290] '
Dita's Dungeon has it all...


"Midget" is not an acceptable term any more. "Fun size" is now the appropriate term according to Stefon.
 
2012-12-25 11:40:36 AM  
I don't see the problem.
 
2012-12-25 11:40:46 AM  
The real outrage is that the GOVERNMENT even has this information in the first place.

You know they can take this map and overlay a map of who has perscriptions for controlled substances or any perscription where medicade covers part of the cost.

What else could they add to make it even more interesting?
 
2012-12-25 11:40:53 AM  

feckingmorons: Newspapers do this sort of thing every five or six years.  Then somebody publishes the names, addresses, phone numbers, license plate numbers, and schools of the kids of all the reporters and editors and they all have to jump through hoops to get phone numbers changed, and if I recall last time I read about this foolishness one of the reporters moved because she was tired of getting rotten fish guts on her porch.


So are you suggesting that they retaliate or merely expressing your complete lack of surprise for the retaliation that has yet to occur?
 
2012-12-25 11:41:45 AM  
I'd be lawyering up pretty damn quick. The government of Richmond, VA got its ass handed to them on a silver platter when they released the same information. The government has your SocSec No., that doesn't mean its open to requests from the public.

This is also one of the many reason's its completely unconstitutional for any government to compile such information. And before the typical farktards go off, "shall not infringe" fark you.
 
2012-12-25 11:41:46 AM  
"The Journal News" is obviously gay, and should be sued!
 
2012-12-25 11:42:02 AM  

Amos Quito: [i1121.photobucket.com image 850x596]

So, if the hysterical Gun-Grabbers are right, a map showing gun-related crimes should correlate very closely to the above.

Red areas: High gun crime.
Non-red: Crime Free Zones.

Right?


Indeed.  Lunatic's aside you'll find that Fairfield County Ct, right next to Westchester is incredibly safe.  Port Chester.... Not so much.   But enjoy your penis surrogate gun toting call of duty jack off fantasy.
 
2012-12-25 11:42:10 AM  

BizarreMan: I live in the south. I go under the assumption that I am the only one in my neighborhood who doesn't own a gun.


I live in a Northern city in a neighborhood that is UP AND COMING so this, too.
 
2012-12-25 11:43:43 AM  
While I'm all for openness in government, why the hell are those public records?
 
2012-12-25 11:43:50 AM  

ParaHandy: I've been toying with putting up a sign along the following lines:

Posted - Any forced entry, including no-knock warrnats by law enforcement, will be repelled with deadly force.

I want to see how my mostly SUV driving upper middle class neigbours might react, and whether it will curb people leaving leaflets.


I'm going to put a sign in my yard that says "Future Sex Offender, I will tie an intruder to my radiator and grape them in the mouth"

Might deter more crime that a "Beware
 
2012-12-25 11:43:56 AM  

utharda: But enjoy your penis surrogate gun toting call of duty jack off fantasy.


I admit, that's bringing it pretty strong.
 
2012-12-25 11:44:26 AM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: What, don't all you tough-guy six-shootin' cowboys want everyone to know how big and bad you are with your big bad guns? Pussies. Learn to fist-fight, like a real man.


Tell that to a 68 year old disabled man.... or a 5'1" 98 pound woman.

Yeah, just fist-fight. Don't be a pussy.
 
2012-12-25 11:44:32 AM  

ParaHandy: I've been toying with putting up a sign along the following lines:

Posted - Any forced entry, including no-knock warrnats by law enforcement, will be repelled with deadly force.

I want to see how my mostly SUV driving upper middle class neigbours might react, and whether it will curb people leaving leaflets.


I'm going to put a sign in my yard that says "Future Sex Offender, I will tie an intruder to my radiator and grape them in the mouth"

Might deter more crime that a "Beware of owner" sign
 
2012-12-25 11:44:55 AM  

tlchwi02: seems like semantics at that point. I guess its annoying that a newspaper published it, but if anyone who was interested could obtain the information anyway i don't get the outrage. oh no, public information is available to the public!


Exactly.

When have government permits (of any kind) NOT been public information? They should be private Because Guns? Puhleeze. If you want to be anonymous, don't get a permit.

/They outed my sekrit gun!
//The gun nuts really posted info on the reporters kids the last time? Anyone OK with that is a douchbag.
 
2012-12-25 11:44:57 AM  
I own a flintlock, unlimited ability to get bent out of shape over everything, a twitter account and I vote!
 
2012-12-25 11:45:00 AM  

feckingmorons: Newspapers do this sort of thing every five or six years.  Then somebody publishes the names, addresses, phone numbers, license plate numbers, and schools of the kids of all the reporters and editors and they all have to jump through hoops to get phone numbers changed, and if I recall last time I read about this foolishness one of the reporters moved because she was tired of getting rotten fish guts on her porch.


I remember the last time this was trendy with the local 'journalists' and the shock and appall when their tactic was turned on them. Serves the hypocritical douches right, IMO.
 
2012-12-25 11:45:26 AM  

Pav: Public records are public! Oh the horror!


.
The government has your, address, DOB, SocSec number, and Checking account information. Public information, correct?
 
2012-12-25 11:45:32 AM  
I completely support the paper's right to publish publically available info.

I completely suppprt the gun owner's right to publish all the publically available info of any/all people who work at the paper.
 
2012-12-25 11:46:00 AM  
As a fan of everything in the bill of rights, I find this hilarious. As strident as some gun owners can be about their rights, they tend to lose sight of free speech and what bits of information should be public knowledge. After all, when you ban lists of gun owners, only outlaws will have lists of gun owners.

/we're getting carried away with privacy rights at the expense of the public good.
//It takes nerve for a newspaper to do this. They will lose more revenue than they will gain.
 
2012-12-25 11:46:35 AM  
Daniel Perleman would still be alive if he was armed. Think about it. Then sign up for the NRA using my referral ID so I can get GunBuxs good for free apparel at the NRA online store. There's a tom Clancy e-book I want to get.
 
2012-12-25 11:46:42 AM  
Oh thank god!

As a fellow Pro-Rights person, I was thinking that guns had been taking a pretty hard rap lately. But this idiotic act should be enough to stop this whole silly debate.
 
2012-12-25 11:46:59 AM  

Ontos: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: What, don't all you tough-guy six-shootin' cowboys want everyone to know how big and bad you are with your big bad guns? Pussies. Learn to fist-fight, like a real man.

Tell that to a 68 year old disabled man.... or a 5'1" 98 pound woman.

Yeah, just fist-fight. Don't be a pussy.


Do you think either one of those defective citizens will be able to hit the broad side of a barn with their .22 anyways?
 
2012-12-25 11:47:41 AM  

Sleeping Monkey: [mlkshk.com image 330x186]


mlkshk.com
i1121.photobucket.com

What he said!
 
2012-12-25 11:48:46 AM  
Step 1: print a treasure map for burglars, showing where guns are waiting to be stolen??
 
2012-12-25 11:49:32 AM  
The AP tried to do this in Illinois, because we have a BS "FOID" card system. Lisa Madigan tried to force the ISP to release the information of everyone with a FOID. The ISP refused because they didn't want to get sued, and then the General Assembly passed a law protecting FOID information. This was entirely meant to intimidate gun owners.

You hysterical gun-grabbers sound like a lot what people were saying about Muslims after 9/11.
 
2012-12-25 11:49:57 AM  
To everyone involved in either side of the gun control debate, you aren't helping.
 
2012-12-25 11:50:02 AM  

iron_city_ap: I completely support the paper's right to publish publically available info.

I completely suppprt the gun owner's right to publish all the publically available info of any/all people who work at the paper.


Like those sites with lists of family planning clinic doctors that display their successes in strikeout?
 
2012-12-25 11:50:33 AM  

Amos Quito: [i1121.photobucket.com image 850x596]

So, if the hysterical Gun-Grabbers are right, a map showing gun-related crimes should correlate very closely to the above.

Red areas: High gun crime.
Non-red: Crime Free Zones.

Right?


A certain town in Connecticut between Danbury and Waterbury is missing a rather large, red, angry, recent dot.
 
2012-12-25 11:50:56 AM  
I'm not for banning guns, but I also don't recall anyone having a "right" to secrecy when owning an instrument that has only two uses: threatening and killing. If you have a problem with this, then you are not what anyone would consider a responsible gun owner, so all the more reason for you to be identified in a public forum. Let me make it clear: community safety far exceeds your desire to not give people a reason to pass judgment on you. Don't like it, find a different community. Threatening others over this is just going to prove the point.
 
2012-12-25 11:50:59 AM  
This is such a horrible idea. Now people are not going to want to register their guns. I'd like tighter gun control, not more unregistered guns. Also if anybody there is hiding from a psycho ex .... too bad for them I guess. This doesn't accomplish anything other than bad things for everybody.
 
2012-12-25 11:51:12 AM  
Hold the paper responsible if firearms are stolen from the home and used to murder someone. Count the reporter as being liable under federal law for gun crime....10 year prison term....at least.
 
2012-12-25 11:51:13 AM  

david_gaithersburg: I'd be lawyering up pretty damn quick. The government of Richmond, VA got its ass handed to them on a silver platter when they released the same information. The government has your SocSec No., that doesn't mean its open to requests from the public.

This is also one of the many reason's its completely unconstitutional for any government to compile such information. And before the typical farktards go off, "shall not infringe" fark you.



No Fark you!!... Yes what we all need is not less government in our lives but more lawyers... you sir are a typical big government loving liberal democrat idiot!
 
2012-12-25 11:51:20 AM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Ontos: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: What, don't all you tough-guy six-shootin' cowboys want everyone to know how big and bad you are with your big bad guns? Pussies. Learn to fist-fight, like a real man.

Tell that to a 68 year old disabled man.... or a 5'1" 98 pound woman.

Yeah, just fist-fight. Don't be a pussy.

Do you think either one of those defective citizens will be able to hit the broad side of a barn with their .22 anyways?


Yes. I actually see it on a daily basis.
 
2012-12-25 11:51:46 AM  
The full blown batshiat crazy fear from the wannabe fascist progressives proves that the the second amendment works.
 
2012-12-25 11:51:46 AM  

Amos Quito: [i1121.photobucket.com image 850x596]

So, if the hysterical Gun-Grabbers are right, a map showing gun-related crimes should correlate very closely to the above.

Red areas: High gun crime.
Non-red: Crime Free Zones.

Right?


Or it could correlate with population density. You know, like if you did a crime map of Rock Springs, Wyoming and Manhattan.
 
2012-12-25 11:52:13 AM  

AutumnWind: This is such a horrible idea. Now people are not going to want to register their guns. I'd like tighter gun control, not more unregistered guns. Also if anybody there is hiding from a psycho ex .... too bad for them I guess. This doesn't accomplish anything other than bad things for everybody.


ditch the serial #'s and rasp the inside of the barrels, too.
 
2012-12-25 11:52:41 AM  
This is the kind of thing that makes licensing and registration a bad idea.
The criminals won't attack law abiding gun owners, they'll rob these houses while the owners are out. This paper has willfully aided in the distribution of illegal weapons.
They should be sued for every incident that happens as a result.
The state should also voluntarily comply with federal rules for the FOPA, and destroy those lists immediately.
 
2012-12-25 11:52:50 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: While I'm all for openness in government, why the hell are those public records?


Why the hell is the list of cars I own available?
 
2012-12-25 11:53:17 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Pav: Public records are public! Oh the horror!

.
The government has your, address, DOB, SocSec number, and Checking account information. Public information, correct?


I don't think you understand the concept of public records.
 
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