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(Daily Mail)   Even though the Vatican already gave Turkey an Eddie Bauer sweater for Christmas, Turkey really just wanted St Nicholas' bones back   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 6
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2012-12-24 09:40:53 PM  
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How about a big, freakin' "NO!" One of the best places, if not the best place in the world for antiquities, religious and non-religious is the Vatican. If you stored something there in the 16th century, there's an excellent chance that it still will be there in the 21st century. Probably, one of the worst places for a Christian relic right now is Turkey, given the growing anti-Christian resentment there among the overwhelming Muslim majority. If the bones were to go there, I can see them "disappearing" easily. Or worse, being smashed to bits as a demonstration

Even if you don't believe in Christianity, we are talking about our collective history here. I wouldn't send any of the Roman deity statues the Vatican has in its archives to Turkey either, for the same reason. .
2012-12-25 01:12:01 AM  
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Seth'n'Spectrum: Lionel Mandrake: "No problem.  We'll trade you for Constantinople"

... yeah, but the papacy had absolutely nothing to do with the Crusaders softening up Constantinople for the Turks right?


Actually, no. The Pope pretty much had nothing to do with the Fourth Crusade almost until the boats were docking under the walls; at which point he figured it would be pretty awesome (not to mention lucrative) to go ahead and bless the Crusade and get a cut of the loot. Prior to that, the Crusaders had been under threat of excommunication if they stopped off at Constantinople.

The Fourth Crusade was the Iraq War of Crusades.
2012-12-24 10:41:24 PM  
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Seth'n'Spectrum: Lionel Mandrake: "No problem.  We'll trade you for Constantinople"

... yeah, but the papacy had absolutely nothing to do with the Crusaders softening up Constantinople for the Turks right?


Actually...it didn't. The Pope called a Crusade to the Holy Land. It was western Europeans nobles that decided to attack Constantinople instead.
2012-12-24 10:38:15 PM  
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Seeing as how some of the muslim-y muslims have a thing for wanting to destroy stuff that isn't of islam, I'd say let them go pound sand.
2012-12-24 09:44:06 PM  
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That's a lot of farking hutzpa.

We're talking about St. Nicholas of Smyrna here. That's Smyrna, now Izmir, which 90 years ago was emptied of its Christian population by a massacre that would take a certain Austrian corporal to outshadow. And the Turks have the nerve to ask for his bones?

The Vatican should find out which city in Greece has the most people descended of Smyrna's Greek community, and send the bones there.
2012-12-24 08:32:11 PM  
1 votes:
"No problem.  We'll trade you for Constantinople"
 
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