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2012-12-24 09:41:34 AM  
Seems he took it seriously. Few people do.
 
2012-12-24 09:55:45 AM  
Most Christians don't actually read the bible, and the ones that do cherry pick the hell out of it.

Christmas is a secular seasonal holiday now for the most part anyway.
 
2012-12-24 10:12:39 AM  
Those well-known non-Christians called "Jehovah's Witnesses" are pretty anti-Christmas for the same reasons.
 
2012-12-24 10:26:26 AM  

St_Francis_P: Seems he took it seriously. Few people do.


Which is kind of funny, considering the Chick tract and other fundie propaganda pamphlets about D&D.
 
2012-12-24 10:34:16 AM  
Of course his savior wasn't born on that day. Still, I'll bet he celebrated Newmass. Christmas cards probably couldn't get past the ward on his door. Heironeans really need to lighten up.
 
2012-12-24 10:53:00 AM  
Failed give a shiat roll.
 
2012-12-24 11:04:29 AM  
Sometimes he took things too seriously, sacrificing fun for accuracy.

which kind of explains the 1st edition rules....
 
2012-12-24 11:08:48 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-24 11:14:17 AM  
Jesus rolled to save.
 
2012-12-24 11:18:02 AM  
Gygax hated rules lawyers that weren't him.
 
2012-12-24 11:19:58 AM  
The first real 'murikans, the Puritans, didn't celebrate Christmas either right?

Doesn't seem that odd to me.
 
2012-12-24 11:22:17 AM  
"From an early age, Gygax hunted and was a target-shooter with both bow and gun.[65] He was also an avid gun collector, and at various times owned a variety of rifles, shotguns, and handguns.[66]"

Where in the Bible does it command that?
 
2012-12-24 11:23:54 AM  
Sooooooo he's right about each point.

/but let's buy some more shiat, worship Mammon and call it religion.
 
2012-12-24 11:25:00 AM  
Jesus saves. The rest of the party takes full damage.
 
2012-12-24 11:29:43 AM  

drake113: Jesus saves. The rest of the party takes full damage.


I wonder what Jesus's THACO was....?
 
2012-12-24 11:30:27 AM  

drake113: Jesus saves. The rest of the party takes full damage.


It's okay, that's why they brought a cleric along.
 
2012-12-24 11:31:37 AM  
Whooopity do. My brothers BiL is the same way but he is also a bi polar nutter. But hey the rest of us need a nice holiday to celebrate and spoil our nieces and nephews.

/Built soooooooo many lego sets this weekend
 
2012-12-24 11:32:36 AM  

Arkanaut: drake113: Jesus saves. The rest of the party takes full damage.

It's okay, that's why they brought a cleric along.


which is good, because the best the druid can do is reincarnate you.  have you ever SEEN the 1st edition reincarnate table!?
 
2012-12-24 11:34:59 AM  
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2012-12-24 11:39:59 AM  

unlikely: Those well-known non-Christians called "Jehovah's Witnesses" are pretty anti-Christmas for the same reasons.


I came for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-12-24 11:42:18 AM  

Weaver95: which is good, because the best the druid can do is reincarnate you. have you ever SEEN the 1st edition reincarnate table!?


Okay, let's roll for reincarnation for the halfling...

Hey, congrats, you're a centaur!

Now, for the elf...

...you're a gorilla.

Yeah, 2nd ed. wasn't much better.

Sadly, or perhaps happily, I had the Expert Rules book 2 in arm's reach to reference the tables, since it's been a while.
 
2012-12-24 11:43:49 AM  

Weaver95: Sometimes he took things too seriously, sacrificing fun for accuracy.

which kind of explains the 1st edition rules....


AD&D was considered a "light and fluffy" game for its time. You want something horrifyingly complicated in the name of accuracy, check out Rolemaster.
 
2012-12-24 11:43:57 AM  
was he using the three and a half rule set?
 
2012-12-24 11:44:47 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: "From an early age, Gygax hunted and was a target-shooter with both bow and gun.[65] He was also an avid gun collector, and at various times owned a variety of rifles, shotguns, and handguns.[66]"

Where in the Bible does it command that?


Jesus was the holiest man to ever slap iron! He killed for your sins. (Remington 3:16)
 
2012-12-24 11:46:01 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Weaver95: Sometimes he took things too seriously, sacrificing fun for accuracy.

which kind of explains the 1st edition rules....

AD&D was considered a "light and fluffy" game for its time. You want something horrifyingly complicated in the name of accuracy, check out Rolemaster.


ah Rolemaster...the game by accountants, FOR accountants.  the crit charts were still hilarious to read tho.
 
2012-12-24 11:47:03 AM  

Weaver95: Sometimes he took things too seriously, sacrificing fun for accuracy.

which kind of explains the 1st edition rules....


Accuracy? What's with the AD&D strength bonus progression:

Str 16 = +0 to hit/+1 damage
Str 17 = +1 to hit/+1 damage
Str 18 = +1 to hit/+2 damage
------------------------------------
Str 19 = +3 to hit/+7 damage
Str 20 = +3 to hit/+8 damage
Str 21 = +4 to hit/+9 damage

Yeah, I know the fighter "exceptional strength" table, but why shoehorn all that in between 18 and 19?

Also, wandering harlot table:

1.bp.blogspot.com
I particularly enjoy the juxtaposition of "brazen strumpet" and "haughty courtesan" in the table, to match the preceding descriptive paragraph.
 
2012-12-24 11:49:45 AM  
Yes, but what about Kevin Siembieda's stance on the matter?
 
2012-12-24 11:52:56 AM  

Aboleth: Yes, but what about Kevin Siembieda's stance on the matter?


I love Palladium games but meeting Kevin years ago was disallusioning to say the least. Eric Wujick was cool as hell, may he rest in peace.
 
2012-12-24 11:56:48 AM  

Aboleth: Yes, but what about Kevin Siembieda's stance on the matter?


it probably involves rail guns.
 
2012-12-24 11:57:11 AM  

abb3w: St_Francis_P: Seems he took it seriously. Few people do.

Which is kind of funny, considering the Chick tract and other fundie pagan propaganda pamphlets about D&D.


FTFY, seriously those peopel worship power and money, not God.
 
2012-12-24 11:58:43 AM  

tzzhc4: Aboleth: Yes, but what about Kevin Siembieda's stance on the matter?

I love Palladium games but meeting Kevin years ago was disallusioning to say the least. Eric Wujick was cool as hell, may he rest in peace.


Should be disillusioning and Eric's last name is Wujcik.
 
2012-12-24 12:00:33 PM  

Sid_6.7: Weaver95: which is good, because the best the druid can do is reincarnate you. have you ever SEEN the 1st edition reincarnate table!?

Okay, let's roll for reincarnation for the halfling...

Hey, congrats, you're a centaur!

Now, for the elf...

...you're a gorilla.

Yeah, 2nd ed. wasn't much better.

Sadly, or perhaps happily, I had the Expert Rules book 2 in arm's reach to reference the tables, since it's been a while.


It got more fun if a wild Mage cast the spell; there was a chance for them to control the result. My Kender became a Fremlin!
 
2012-12-24 12:01:14 PM  

Weaver95: Aboleth: Yes, but what about Kevin Siembieda's stance on the matter?

it probably involves rail guns.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-24 12:03:34 PM  
Who the fark cares?
 
2012-12-24 12:04:37 PM  

Exception Collection: My Kender became a Fremlin!


Arguably an improvement.
 
2012-12-24 12:06:03 PM  

Weaver95: Aboleth: Yes, but what about Kevin Siembieda's stance on the matter?

it probably involves rail guns.


The Rifts rulebook is painful to read.

At the very beginning, in the middle of character creation rules, they start discussing very exacting critical hit rules.

The setting is really great, but the system is iffy.
 
2012-12-24 12:06:04 PM  

Sid_6.7: Exception Collection: My Kender became a Fremlin!

Arguably an improvement.


Gods, I hated kender.  they made great kraken bait tho.
 
2012-12-24 12:06:39 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Weaver95: Sometimes he took things too seriously, sacrificing fun for accuracy.

which kind of explains the 1st edition rules....

AD&D was considered a "light and fluffy" game for its time. You want something horrifyingly complicated in the name of accuracy, check out Rolemaster.


Amateur.
HârnMaster
 
2012-12-24 12:17:00 PM  
If Christ came back from the dead does that making him an undead class of some sort? Are there undead clerics.
 
2012-12-24 12:18:36 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
/lol
 
2012-12-24 12:23:48 PM  

delathi: HeartBurnKid: Weaver95: Sometimes he took things too seriously, sacrificing fun for accuracy.

which kind of explains the 1st edition rules....

AD&D was considered a "light and fluffy" game for its time. You want something horrifyingly complicated in the name of accuracy, check out Rolemaster.

Amateur.
HârnMaster


Everybody knows that FATAL (NSFW or sanity) is the most hardcore and complex RPG out there.
 
2012-12-24 12:27:33 PM  

delathi: HeartBurnKid: Weaver95: Sometimes he took things too seriously, sacrificing fun for accuracy.

which kind of explains the 1st edition rules....

AD&D was considered a "light and fluffy" game for its time. You want something horrifyingly complicated in the name of accuracy, check out Rolemaster.

Amateur.
HârnMaster


FATAL anyone?
 
2012-12-24 12:29:23 PM  

Sid_6.7: Exception Collection: My Kender became a Fremlin!

Arguably an improvement.


I first read that as "femlin"

c48743.r43.cf3.rackcdn.com

Still an improvement.
 
2012-12-24 12:34:24 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Who the fark cares?


The last thing I care about is something from Boing Boing.
 
2012-12-24 12:35:58 PM  
Gygax should have just rolled up a druid instead.
 
2012-12-24 12:42:34 PM  
Gamma World shall not be forgotten.
 
2012-12-24 12:46:53 PM  

2wolves: Gamma World shall not be forgotten.


nor shall star frontiers!
 
2012-12-24 12:50:46 PM  

Weaver95: 2wolves: Gamma World shall not be forgotten.

nor shall star frontiers!


Any love for Alternity?
 
2012-12-24 12:52:21 PM  
Now I know Gary's mom's address in Lake Geneva!

/I keed
//Anybody remember "Top Secret"?
 
2012-12-24 12:57:46 PM  

Weaver95: 2wolves: Gamma World shall not be forgotten.

nor shall star frontiers!


Still have all my old Star Frontiers stuff. First game system I DM'd. Not a bad little system at all, and the setting was fantastic. I've actually got notes for a full on d20 conversion I've been working on, not just the snippet that was in the d20 Future book

Also, just bought a ton of Top Secret/SI material for my collection

Finally, slightly on topic, one of the best quests in Dungeons & Dragons Online was a dungeon romp narrated by Gary Gygax himself. Not sure if that quest is still around in DDO, though. Still, it was awesome hearing Gygax describe the rooms and encounters.
 
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