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(Boston.com)   Massachusetts may spend nearly a billion dollars on equipment to stop trains before they crash into each other, because hiring drivers who stay awake is too hard   (boston.com) divider line 19
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2012-12-24 02:29:21 PM  
3 votes:
Why all the restrictions, when clearly more guns would solve the problem?
2012-12-24 02:12:57 PM  
3 votes:
The system, called Saf T Train, has a series of loudspeakers that says "STOP THE CAH! STOP THE CAH!" at 175 decibels until the offending trains slow down.
2012-12-24 02:51:54 PM  
2 votes:
If trains had guns, this never woul...

Sorry. Force of habit.
2012-12-24 01:34:23 PM  
2 votes:
www.robertstrains.com

/DOH!
2012-12-24 10:51:07 AM  
2 votes:
Considering that this is Mass. I'm going to substitute "stay awake" with "remain sober".
2012-12-24 10:38:28 AM  
2 votes:

jaylectricity: Wow, a bunch of idiots to start this thread. This technology will allow drivers to text their families during the holiday season.


How will they do that if they're asleep?
2012-12-24 02:46:42 PM  
1 votes:

jjorsett: Google has developed self-driving vehicles that can operate on the open streets. Operating a train in the controlled environment of a rail system ought to be even easier. How about we eliminate the human element entirely and not just avoid collisions, but have computers control the whole damn train from beginning of journey to end? If we simply can't bear to do without a human, we can prop up some union drunk in the cabin with a single control button available: STOP. At least he wouldn't be able to crash the train like today.


THIS.

At this point if computers and sensors can do it better, then automate it.

Anyone who wants to argue otherwise, feel free to respond on a computer with a handmade CPU.
2012-12-24 02:38:00 PM  
1 votes:
Forgot one detail:

The Empire State Building, although completed in 14 months instead of 19 years, was NOT equipped with a modern collision avoidance system.

Otherwise that careless building would not have collided into this poor innocent B-25.
2012-12-24 02:34:14 PM  
1 votes:

SnarfVader: The T estimates it would cost $645 million to $721 million and require nine years to design, install, and test a modern collision avoidance-system for the Green Line.


The Empire State Building was done in 14 months.

Nine years? Come on Boston, even you are not THAT retarded.
2012-12-24 02:27:25 PM  
1 votes:
Positive Idiot Control.
2012-12-24 02:15:58 PM  
1 votes:
Trains should need operators like elevators need operators.

Trains = horizontal elevators.

You want a human official on board to provide safety? No problem with that -- an operator in a control booth won't be as effective as an officer that can patrol.
2012-12-24 01:59:36 PM  
1 votes:
Massachusetts may spend nearly a billion dollars on equipment to stop trains before they crash into each other, because hiring drivers who stay awake is too hard.

Not to mention having drivers who don't have medical problems.
2012-12-24 01:59:02 PM  
1 votes:
how is this headline a troll?  the MBTA will be spending nearly a billion on designing and implementing safety features over ten years because of a recent set of accidents which were mainly caused by bad driving.

I'd rather have that money applied to more trains on the green line -- having seen for 20 years how absolutely messy this line is during rush hours.
(and that doesn't include game days which are RIDICULOUS)

then I'd like to see them add location information to the damn green line so I can predict my travel time.

AND I'd like them to stop requiring people get out at the front of the damn train on outdoor stops -- it's farking ludicrous how much time is wasted with this procedure.

and, yeah -- i'd like them to extend the train schedule to 3am so there are less drunks on the road

and that doesn't even get in to extending the damn line in ways other than the butt-fark they gave to dorchester with "the silver line" -- yeah, those minorities won't know the difference between a train and farking silver bus.

/not subby
//the mbta is a piece of shiat
2012-12-24 01:57:20 PM  
1 votes:
ATS/ATC systems have been a fact of life in many places in the world for decades. Why exactly can't boston buy/implement an OTS one from, say, Japan, at less than 1/20th of the price?

Oh ya, NIH the broken windows theory of job creation. I forgot.
2012-12-24 01:53:31 PM  
1 votes:

SnarfVader: The T estimates it would cost $645 million to $721 million and require nine years to design, install, and test a modern collision avoidance-system for the Green Line.

I'd be more concerned with the bolded item. Wow. Portland tunneled through several miles of solid rock and built the entire west side line in less time than that.


In Boston? I'm sure this will be
pinkunderbelly.files.wordpress.com
early, under budget, and
www1.whdh.com
triple reinforced.
2012-12-24 01:41:23 PM  
1 votes:
Google has developed self-driving vehicles that can operate on the open streets. Operating a train in the controlled environment of a rail system ought to be even easier. How about we eliminate the human element entirely and not just avoid collisions, but have computers control the whole damn train from beginning of journey to end? If we simply can't bear to do without a human, we can prop up some union drunk in the cabin with a single control button available: STOP. At least he wouldn't be able to crash the train like today.
2012-12-24 01:03:34 PM  
1 votes:
easier to spend $1B than to create new union rules
2012-12-24 11:41:21 AM  
1 votes:

St_Francis_P: NewportBarGuy: Considering that this is Mass. I'm going to substitute "stay awake" with "remain sober".

Pretty much true anywhere.


Well, at least in NYC they have the sense to take a swig off the sterno, hit off the crack pipe, slap another mark on the side of the train and run right over those bums on the track.

They mix a depressant with a stimulant. Those are true professionals.
2012-12-24 10:58:01 AM  
1 votes:
I suppose some politician's nephew runs a train equipment business.
 
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