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(WHAM Rochester) NewsFlash NRA yesterday: We should have armed guards at every school. NRA after this morning: We're gonna need armed guards at fires too   (13wham.com) divider line 77
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2012-12-24 09:30:56 AM
12 votes:
Are the guns okay? That's the important thing. Let's keep some perspective here
2012-12-24 09:40:09 AM
11 votes:
How come the NRA wasn't clamoring for all blacks to carry guns after Trayvon Martin was killed?
2012-12-24 09:25:38 AM
7 votes:
How about an armed guard for this thread?
2012-12-24 09:57:51 AM
6 votes:

FarkinFarker: God damnit what's wrong with people?


We've taken God out of house fires.
2012-12-24 09:27:42 AM
6 votes:
img689.imageshack.us

Too soon?
2012-12-24 10:48:13 AM
4 votes:
If everyone was on fire this wouldn't have happened.
2012-12-24 09:45:56 AM
4 votes:
If he didn't have a gun he would have strangled them or drowned the firemen in a pool.
2012-12-24 09:42:30 AM
4 votes:

Natsumi: I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.


There's a lot of colored boys and Messicans in the USA who are just waiting for the chance to break into the homes of real 'Murrucans in order to rape their white women, steal their bibles, and burn their American flags. To prevent this, it's necessary to own military grade weapons. It's just common sense.
2012-12-24 09:29:03 AM
4 votes:
Is the Dalmatian okay? *prepares to speed-dial PETA*
2012-12-24 12:24:16 PM
3 votes:
Over 550 posts, and no one thought to post this...

jessicacristiane.files.wordpress.com
2012-12-24 11:11:16 AM
3 votes:
We need a teacher in every gun store.
2012-12-24 09:34:59 AM
3 votes:
Those damn video games!!!!
2012-12-24 09:29:35 AM
3 votes:
The wounded firefighter was taken to Strong Memorial Hospital by Mercy Flight. Strong Hospital confirms two firefighters are being treated there.

Wanted for questioning:
www.brightsideofnews.com
2012-12-24 02:11:48 PM
2 votes:

chuckufarlie: MichiganFTL: trappedspirit: chuckufarlie: There is absolutely nothing in the Constitution concerning assault weapons or guns that use magazines. At the time that the Constitution was ratified, the only guns were muzzle loaders.

Which meant that the citizens had access to the same weapons as the military. The Constitution says nothing about hunting.

Pretty much everything on the bill of rights has been adapted to the times (and needs to be). Otherwise, your 'freedom of speech' wouldn't be protected on the internet, cell phone, tv, etc. That's why we have SCOTUS to interpret these to modern times, should the need arise. It does not mean "Oh well item x wasn't available in 1776 so it's not protected."

OMG. Are you really that retarded? Freedom of speech is just that. It is freedom of speech that is protected, not the internet or cell phones. The internet is a device used to exercise free speech but it is still speech itself that is protected in all of its forms.

To say that this analogy transfers to the 2nd Amendment is to show up just how stupid you are. If your interpretation was accurate, we could all own any weapon in the military arsenal. Obviously, we cannot do so. Therefore, your premise is nothing but ignorance.


Lol.

Now you are just name calling. Your arguments, as weak as they were, have completely collapsed.

You are right, free speech is absolute, just as the right to bare arms is.

imageshack.us
2012-12-24 01:14:48 PM
2 votes:
i28.photobucket.com
2012-12-24 12:20:29 PM
2 votes:
The only way to stop a bad guy on meth is a good guy on meth!
2012-12-24 11:40:22 AM
2 votes:

ows: and it will turn out to be a 5 shot bolt operated hunting rifle.

obama will outlaw all guns. well , he'll try anyway.


i'm sorry for your loss.
2012-12-24 10:11:11 AM
2 votes:

Katolu: How come the NRA wasn't clamoring for all blacks to carry guns after Trayvon Martin was killed?


The all blacks don't need guns. They have the haka.
2012-12-24 10:09:58 AM
2 votes:

cygnusx13: How about an armed guard for this thread?


You know what would be funny? LaPierre getting stabbed.
2012-12-24 10:09:16 AM
2 votes:
We need a list of everywhere to put armed guards for our protection from the bad people.

School
School playgrounds
School sporting events
Church
Beach
Park
Camp
Mall
Strip Mall
Grocery store
Festival
Public Fair
Amusement park
(Fire?)

and we should be covered. Unless they go after the guards first, then we are boned.
2012-12-24 09:59:47 AM
2 votes:
F

Katolu: How come the NRA wasn't clamoring for all blacks to carry guns after Trayvon Martin was killed?


Geez man, he already had a bag of Skittles. A gun would have just been overkill
2012-12-24 09:50:34 AM
2 votes:

iheartscotch: Counter_Intelligent: Easy Reader: If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.

But you don't. Unless you're crazy/f*cking stupid. You aren't either of those, are you?

It's a conspiracy!!!!

Let's examine the facts:

1. Could the government do it? Yes; the US has pulled off many, more complicated operations.

2. Would the government do it? Given the right circumstances, yes.

3. Did the government do it? We don't know.

/ just sayin'


The government is obviously in collusion with the Illuminati.

Or aliens. Or both.
2012-12-24 09:43:35 AM
2 votes:
What if all of these recent shootings are a last ditch effort by Karl Rove attemting to make the GOP relevant again?
2012-12-24 09:39:03 AM
2 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: ARSONISTS ARE ON 0BAMA'S PAYROLL. THIS IS WHY THEY GET ALL THE GIRLS.


www.gnorb.net
Shorty fires do not work that way!
2012-12-24 09:36:57 AM
2 votes:
ARSONISTS ARE ON 0BAMA'S PAYROLL. THIS IS WHY THEY GET ALL THE GIRLS.
2012-12-24 09:34:36 AM
2 votes:

FarkinFarker: God damnit what's wrong with people?


Some people just want to watch the world burn.
2012-12-24 09:34:21 AM
2 votes:
assets.diylol.com
2012-12-24 09:33:44 AM
2 votes:

Fapinator: [img689.imageshack.us image 729x600]

Too soon?


Just a bit. Go back to 4chan, you 12 year old chucklef*ck.
2012-12-24 09:27:10 AM
2 votes:
I'll take coo coo for cocoa puffs for 1500 Alex.
2012-12-24 09:26:35 AM
2 votes:
Yay for morons.
2012-12-24 10:36:29 PM
1 votes:

trappedspirit: Waxing_Chewbacca: Have there been a rash of incidents in which people use a car as a weapon? Driving them into crowds on purpose?

Been to a farmers' market lately?

2012-12-24 07:47:10 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-12-24 05:43:11 PM
1 votes:
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
2012-12-24 04:10:04 PM
1 votes:

Benjamin Orr: dericwater: namatad: Coastalgrl: Holy crap. I grew up a few miles from there on the same street. Street is filled with retirees and recluses. I guess a lot has changed in 12 years with the McMansions going up on that road for the lake view.

Violence of this nature in this town is unheard of.

Except that you are completely wrong.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/firefighter-shot-at-scene-of- bl aze-in-western-ny-2-homes-burning-as-police-search-for-shooter/2012/12 /24/a73d0b34-4dd2-11e2-835b-02f92c0daa43_story.html

The gunman, William Spengler, had served more than 17 years in prison for beating his 92-year-old grandmother to death in 1980 at the house next to where Monday's attack happened,

This is completely normal behavior for this neighborhood/area. This is also completely normal and to be expected with our current society and views on mental health. The man beat his grandmother to death, why was he ever allowed out on the streets again? EVER?
Sorry, but if you are crazy enough to beat someone to death, you are too crazy to ever be allowed out on the streets again. EVER.

Guns dont kill people, crazy farks dont need guns to beat their grandmother to death ...

Crazy farks who beat their grandmother to death could be allowed to be out on the streets. They should not be allowed to have a gun, though. I think it's easier to restrict guns than to pay to keep this person locked up.

Except it was illegal for him to have a gun as a convicted felon. Are you going to argue that a crazy person who beat his own grandmother to death and apparently killed his own sister on top of that is going to obey laws?

Or do you think we can magically remove guns from the US somehow?


We can realistically remove all guns from the US. Or at least have better control of them.
2012-12-24 04:06:36 PM
1 votes:
www.troll.me
2012-12-24 03:46:45 PM
1 votes:

spelletrader: I have over 15 years of front line Weeners training, from the military, counter-terror and IED among other training.


catmacros.files.wordpress.com

:)
2012-12-24 03:08:28 PM
1 votes:

Rockstone: At any rate, I say we should ban gasoline while we're at it.


I'm thinking we should also ban forks. There are hundreds of thousands die every year from obesity. It's a slow painful death. We ban forks and we'll save lives!
2012-12-24 02:41:35 PM
1 votes:

ZeroPly: chuckufarlie: Rifles that use magazines serve one purpose - killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible. You would still be able to go hunting or plink cans, you would just be limited in how many people you could kill in a short period of time. Is that so much to give up?

You've never been hunting, so you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. With a bigger animal like an elk, it can take 10-12 shots from an AR15 to drop it. A lot of times if it takes off after the first few rounds, you need to pursue it while firing. Try to run and fire from the hip without a magazine and then come talk to me. You're like someone who's never owned a computer saying it's stupid to buy a $500 graphics card.


I thought that you were supposed to shoot elk from helicopters.
2012-12-24 02:39:51 PM
1 votes:

chuckufarlie: Rifles that use magazines serve one purpose - killing as many people as possible in as short a time as possible. You would still be able to go hunting or plink cans, you would just be limited in how many people you could kill in a short period of time. Is that so much to give up?


You've never been hunting, so you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. With a bigger animal like an elk, it can take 10-12 shots from an AR15 to drop it. A lot of times if it takes off after the first few rounds, you need to pursue it while firing. Try to run and fire from the hip without a magazine and then come talk to me. You're like someone who's never owned a computer saying it's stupid to buy a $500 graphics card.
2012-12-24 02:19:23 PM
1 votes:

chuckufarlie:
.....I would hardly call dealing with an intruder as close quarter combat......


i216.photobucket.com
/honestly, what do you picture? Ralphie's drem from A Christmas Story?
2012-12-24 02:02:14 PM
1 votes:

Banned on the Run: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Banned on the Run: armed resistance against those in uniform carrying assault rifles may be necessary

Why beat around the bush?

Just say, "I need these things to shoot American soldiers."

Not now, obviously. American soldiers and the government are the good guys. Right now.
"I need these things so politicians are less likely to order American soldiers to threaten to shoot me."

How's that?
Get it yet?


No.

Who do you want to shoot? American soldiers or American politicians?

Why don't you vote? Lines too long?
2012-12-24 01:45:41 PM
1 votes:
The only thing that can stop this is more fires.
2012-12-24 01:30:27 PM
1 votes:
The guy was probably just walking along with his gun, and someone shouted "fire!".
2012-12-24 01:11:27 PM
1 votes:
can we just hurry up and get to the Thunderdome part?

i was promised bungee cords and chainsaws, and instead all we get is trigger happy retards.
2012-12-24 12:23:13 PM
1 votes:
We should totally punish everybody for this, while making us all less safe.
2012-12-24 12:11:20 PM
1 votes:

chuckufarlie: Scerpes: chuckufarlie: Scerpes: chuckufarlie: I simply state that we need to confiscate and make illegal all rifles that utilize a magazine or a clip. Screw semantics.

There are probably 50 million of them in the U.S. Good luck with that.

All the more reason that banning further manufacture is pointless and all the more reason to have them turned in and made illegal. Anybody who does not turn them in would be a criminal and could be arrested.

Not going to happen. Keep fantasizing, though.

Of course it could happen. More importantly, it needs to happen. Unless you are saying that all of those gun owners would not obey the law. Is that the type of person who has all of those rifles?


He's been threatening armed revolt if someone threatens his toy for 2 days now. And he thinks he's the sane, rational party.
2012-12-24 11:50:07 AM
1 votes:

hdhale: So subby...been a troll since you were born, or was it more a process of de-evolution? My theory is that you were breast feed by your mother until you were 5 and your mom would threaten to take you and leave your father if he even looked sternly at you, but please, enlighten us.

/oh and...what happened to the firefighters could have been pulled off with a bolt action rifle or any hunting rifle really, so any talk of this making any case for the banning of "assault weapons" is just more trolling



People like YOU are the reason nothing will be done and more people will get shot.
Look at all the butthurt you put into your answer to Subby's little humorous jab at recent events.
One joke and it's all OH YA?! WELL FARK YOU!!

You are the stereotype people see when they see gun owners and....you're not helping.
2012-12-24 11:23:26 AM
1 votes:
I suspect that the shooter (death wish) torched his own house with the intent of shooting firefighters on arrival.

Why? I have no idea.
2012-12-24 11:20:27 AM
1 votes:

FriarReb98: Who needs a yule log?


news.thomasnet.com
2012-12-24 11:17:51 AM
1 votes:

chuckufarlie: Mr. Eugenides: chuckufarlie: Mr. Eugenides: czei: I get it: gun violence is caused by liberals working for Obama has part of a grand conspiracy to take away our guns?

I don't know that they're working for Obama or are working to take away our guns, but yeah, I doubt any of the recent mass shooters were registered as Republicans. In fact, a fair number of them (Side show bob and Loughner) seem to have been Democratic activists of sorts.

right, the kid's mother was a survivalist. How many survivalists do you think are Democrats? The kid grew up in a Republican household.

The idea that these maniacs are working to take away your guns is incredibly stupid. They do not have a political agenda, they are pissed and want to take it out on people.

You should go find a mental health professional and have a nice long talk. They cannot cure stupid, but they can help with the crazy.

Interesting; you make some fatuous leaps and then insult me without providing a shred of corroboration for your assertions. But somehow you're actually proud of your skill at debate aren't you?

this is not a debate, you moron. You are either crazy or stupid, possibly and more likely you are both, You post is proof of it.


Says the guy who links to conspiracy theorists.
2012-12-24 11:14:46 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: verbaltoxin: david_gaithersburg: WhippingBoy: chuckufarlie: The British did not lose the Revolution in America as much as they got tired of the conflict. Lots of your redneck buddies seem to think that you could win your war against the US government in the same way, that the govt. would get tired of the war and go home. You overlook the fact that they would already be at home, fighting an enemy that the majority would see as an enemy of the nation.

No way man. Cletus and Zeke could totally take out a Nimitz class aircraft carrier if they had enough guns and ammunition. Why just last year Zeke was named NRA's "cool shot" of the year by the Bumfark, Georgia chapter of the NRA.

.
Educate yourself before presenting yourself as an expert on farking everything under the sun. Link

Rense.com? PFFTTAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

.
Learn to use Google if you must read the same story from NYT or Mother Jones.


Sure, buddy, now tell me about the lizard people.
2012-12-24 11:11:01 AM
1 votes:

Infernalist: Are you retarded? Stop comparing cars to guns. Cars are not designed to murder people.


The Corvair disagrees with you.
www.stolaf.edu
2012-12-24 11:09:22 AM
1 votes:
The new NRA spokesperson later told people to remain calm.

i81.photobucket.com

Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.
We have arrested the guns that did this.
2012-12-24 11:02:23 AM
1 votes:

chuckufarlie: tonguedepressor: Why would anyone need this many matches in a single box!??
[www.readydepot.com image 250x234]

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 204x247]

Are you trying to be the stupidest person on the internet?


I completely forgot where I was for a moment, thanks for righting my ship for me.
2012-12-24 10:57:48 AM
1 votes:
Since no one else here has the guts, I'm just going to say it.

They have it coming.

Driving around like lunatics in their gigantic, pimped out rides. Blinding everyone with their vehicle-bling. Honking and blaring their "weee-oooo" music at all hours of the night, driving like they own the road. Parking wherever the hell they feel like it, and wearing suspenders well after they fell from fashion.

There's only so much people will put up with before they react.
2012-12-24 10:56:21 AM
1 votes:

Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.


You really work at the stupid, eh?

lol insult. You got anything else?

Question, not insult.
Read a lot?

That's all you got? Another insult? Why not address the post? Or can you not?


Maybe if I put it in braille???
2012-12-24 10:56:02 AM
1 votes:
Why would anyone need this many matches in a single box!??
www.readydepot.com
2012-12-24 10:48:53 AM
1 votes:
Saw this on Hill Street Blues. Everything turns out OK in the end.
2012-12-24 10:28:56 AM
1 votes:
img716.imageshack.us
Pic of this thread.
2012-12-24 10:28:04 AM
1 votes:
Guns don't kill people, bullets do.  Therefore all arguments about guns are invalid and should be stopped immediately since they are not bullets.  Further, every gun-related crime is proof that more guns are needed, since the only way to stop someone with a gun is with another gun, but that doesn't mean that guns are better than knives or bats and in no way disproves our own stance that all items are equally deadly. And if you don't believe that you're a frightened commie that wants to repeal the 2nd Amendment.

/NRA expanded "logic"
2012-12-24 10:27:55 AM
1 votes:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

What would a well regulated militia look like? 'Cause, with all these mass shootings it's apparent we need one.
2012-12-24 10:27:27 AM
1 votes:
Webster Police also say that there is no active shooter.

Just what this country needs, couch potato shooters.
2012-12-24 10:20:34 AM
1 votes:
Man, anyone else feel like firing up Shadowrun?
2012-12-24 10:15:40 AM
1 votes:
www.cuerpoyarte.com

/too inside info?
2012-12-24 10:04:35 AM
1 votes:

zobear: FarkinFarker: God damnit what's wrong with people?

We've taken God out of house fires.


You win all of the internets.
2012-12-24 10:04:30 AM
1 votes:

Mimic_Octopus: WhippingBoy: Natsumi: I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.

There's a lot of colored boys and Messicans in the USA who are just waiting for the chance to break into the homes of real 'Murrucans in order to rape their white women, steal their bibles, and burn their American flags. To prevent this, it's necessary to own military grade weapons. It's just common sense.

we need the military grade weapons (which a semi-auto rifle is not) for when the US govt ends up like the british one we threw off a few years ago. do you think history stops because you are here right now ?


You do realize that the USA has a military that is responsible for protecting us from invasion, right? Or are you afraid of the legally elected government that we replace on a regular basis?

Exactly what is the stupidity that you are so afraid of?
2012-12-24 09:55:02 AM
1 votes:

dpa228: I went to high school in Webster. A bunch of my friends worked as volunteer firefighters, not sure if any of them still do, but hopefully no one I know was involved. For what it's worth, I pulled up Facebook just now and this is the Boobies I see from someone I graduated with: "Times like these i'm glad to have my Sig loaded with hollow points. Unbelievable!"

I don't get his point, if he even has one. If an arsonist tries to burn his house he'll shoot him? Is he going to hunt down the shooter? Is he just going for some tough guy posturing? I don't understand gun culture, I really don't.


It's the idea that by virtue of having a gun you're safer from random violence. The bigger and badder your gun is the less anyone will want to fark with you. It's essentially a security blanket that can kill all the bad people, thugs and monster
2012-12-24 09:54:26 AM
1 votes:

Queensowntalia: iheartscotch: Counter_Intelligent: Easy Reader: If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.

But you don't. Unless you're crazy/f*cking stupid. You aren't either of those, are you?

It's a conspiracy!!!!

Let's examine the facts:

1. Could the government do it? Yes; the US has pulled off many, more complicated operations.

2. Would the government do it? Given the right circumstances, yes.

3. Did the government do it? We don't know.

/ just sayin'

The government is obviously in collusion with the Illuminati.

Or aliens. Or both.


Also, I'm pretty sure Obama is a Lizard person. He's never released his long form cat scan certificate. Whar long form cat scan certificate?

/ my point was; it isn't impossible; not that I believe that it is actually happening
2012-12-24 09:54:11 AM
1 votes:

iheartscotch: Counter_Intelligent: Easy Reader: If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.

But you don't. Unless you're crazy/f*cking stupid. You aren't either of those, are you?

It's a conspiracy!!!!

Let's examine the facts:

1. Could the government do it? Yes; the US has pulled off many, more complicated operations.

2. Would the government do it? Given the right circumstances, yes.

3. Did the government do it? We don't know.

/ just sayin'


lets look at another possibility, since you are all about conspiracies. Say that some radical right wing organization like the NRA sets up these attacks. Then in response to the attacks, the NRA proposes to train and pay guards to be placed at all the important places to "protect the public". Once the NRA has its own people in place, it makes it easy to take over the government, insuring that they always have their guns.

/ just sayin'

It seems to make a lot more sense for a bunch of right wing morons to kill people so they can take over than to think that a bunch of liberals would kill people to get the guns off the streets.

/ just sayin'
2012-12-24 09:50:45 AM
1 votes:
hawaiitribune-herald.com

They better watch out for a random tiger attack while they're at it.

/hot like the fires
2012-12-24 09:47:16 AM
1 votes:
Godamnlimey Sure do talk purty for a troll.

My surname is Le Trôle.
2012-12-24 09:45:41 AM
1 votes:
Armed guards for some, miniature American flags for others!
2012-12-24 09:39:01 AM
1 votes:
He built a fire on main street, and shot it full of holes.
2012-12-24 09:37:04 AM
1 votes:

Easy Reader: If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.


But you don't. Unless you're crazy/f*cking stupid. You aren't either of those, are you?
2012-12-24 09:36:10 AM
1 votes:
Three Firefighters Shot at Scene of Webster Fire

Webster fire?
2012-12-24 09:33:45 AM
1 votes:

Natsumi: I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.


It's being overblown by the media.
Yesterday somehow 319,999,999 people managed to not shoot anybody.
2012-12-24 09:28:10 AM
1 votes:
I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.
 
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