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2012-12-24 10:47:36 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: david_gaithersburg: Our second amendment also serves to guarantee that the government will think twice

You could just say, "I need these things to shoot American soldiers."
If you were honest.


.
Duh! Who knows what tomorrow will bring. just ask the people of Libya, Algeria, Egypt, etc. Do you know the future, and if so, may I have tomorrow's lottery numbers?
 
2012-12-24 10:47:38 AM  
So if this fire was set by an arsonist should we ban matches, lighters or flammable liquids?
 
2012-12-24 10:47:46 AM  

letrole: The libertines and the amoral have bleated for years, each time they set forth to tear down the established order: You cannot legislate morality.


Oh man, this might be some of your best trolling yet. Alright, if you can't legislate morality, why the 10 commandments?
 
2012-12-24 10:47:47 AM  

Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.

It's outdated, it's a holdover from a time before we had a National Guard and it's used as a blanket shield by a handful of corporations to flood our society with weapons simply for the sake of profit without a thought given to the damage that it's doing to our people and society as a whole.

The Constitution is not written in stone and not only 'can' it be changed, but it 'should' be changed to reflect a changing nation. And I think it's past time for us to retire this Amendment. Guns do not make us safer. They make us less safe, less secure and they're a detriment to the common good of the American people.

Enough.

If yur gonna change it, legalize RPGs and machine guns so we can keep up with the neighbors.
THAT was the intent of the Constitution, to arm the citizens with people killing weapons.
Huntin' squirrel hardly seems to be worth all the Constitutionalizing.

Shoot, why stop there? Tactical nuclear weapons are just another step up the ladder.

When the neighbors get 'em, yes.
Sorry to say, but, yes.

well, there 'are' rumors of ex-Soviet sleeper agents with suitcase nukes out there still. And terrorists with the makings of 'dirty' radiation bombs.

Are we 'really' going to wait for them to set one off before arming ourselves with equivalent weaponry? Clearly, we have to be preemptive in this and arm ourselves with nuclear weaponry first.

It's the American way.

No it is not.
We always let the bad guy shoot first.
And mebee, a lil' help.

Truth, Justice and The American Way

And look at all those deaths that come from waiting first! Just think of the children.

As a matter of fact, let's put up some snipers on the roofs of all schools, just in case. And arm the teachers. And the lunch ladies.

You know, fark it, let's just arm all the kids.

I taught my 3 daughters.
You?

At 6 years old?


I started to learn how to shoot at 5. Your point?
 
2012-12-24 10:48:13 AM  
If everyone was on fire this wouldn't have happened.
 
2012-12-24 10:48:31 AM  

Fapinator: [img689.imageshack.us image 729x600]

Too soon?


Been looking all over for that game. Walmart says wont have it before Valentines.
 
2012-12-24 10:48:43 AM  
So if the future, when firefighters, paramedics, and police are hesitant to secure a school, or put out a fire, or respond to a 911 call because they first need to ensure that no one will shoot them, will the NRA pick up the slack and serve as first responders?

/no need to respond... everyone knows what the answer is...
 
2012-12-24 10:48:53 AM  
Saw this on Hill Street Blues. Everything turns out OK in the end.
 
2012-12-24 10:49:01 AM  

Scerpes: Infernalist: Depends on the person, and whether they're actively trying to cause a serious physical injury to myself or someone else.

I wonder if Lanza thought those kids needed killing, too. You wonder?

And that would be a great reason to keep crazy people and people who make weapons available to crazy people from buying firearms. It sure would be nice to be able to have a database to check to see if someone is mentally ill, like we can do with felons.


Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I say.
 
2012-12-24 10:49:10 AM  

Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.



You really work at the stupid, eh?
 
2012-12-24 10:49:13 AM  
I always thought it was war when you keep sending in more people with guns.

I guess that's pretty American though, after multiple wars waged against it's own citizens, the citizens of other nations, and differing social classes, perhaps war has just become a free-for-all.

I expect shoot-outs to once again become commonplace in city streets.

It'll be just like the 'Ol West, by gum.
 
2012-12-24 10:49:13 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: IronTom: cameroncrazy1984: IronTom: cameroncrazy1984: IronTom: cameroncrazy1984: IronTom: Now all the bad people have to do is to keep shooting people and they'll take away all the good people's guns.   Ironic, and it works out for the bad people.

How much you wanna bet this was a legal gun? How do you explain that?

That it was a bad person.

So rather than making it more difficult for "bad people" to get a legal gun, you want to arm everyone so that more people are likely to die in these things?

Smart!

You are putting words in my mouth.  This discussion is pointless.  I'm just saying that the bad person is the fault of this new horror.

Yes he is, and it likely wouldn't be a new horror if the bad person didn't have access to a gun.

And bad people will have guns no matter what restrictions are put on the good people.

Then please explain why gun crimes in the UK went down something like 60 percent following the 1997 firearms act? Or why gun crimes in NYC now are so low that this month they went a day and a half with zero reported violent crime in the city, and that was the first time it had happened since the 1960s?


or Detroit and Chicago.
 
2012-12-24 10:49:20 AM  
cameroncrazy1984: You're right. Mass shootings didn't really occur until automatic weapons were introduced.

But these shooters aren't using automatic weapons.

But these shooters aren't using automatic weapons.

But these shooters aren't using automatic weapons.

But these shooters aren't using automatic weapons.

But these shooters aren't using automatic weapons.

But these shooters aren't using automatic weapons.
 
2012-12-24 10:49:53 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 360x270]


Actually, comparing guns to cars, knives, bats and ping pong is a "special kind of stupid".  As is the belief that the answer to gun problems is more guns instead of less guns, EVEN IF bad guys manage to get ahold of some guns.  Most of these mass shootings have been with legally purchased weapons.  All your "special kind of stupid" is doing is reducing the resistance to these massacres.
 
2012-12-24 10:50:23 AM  

Kit Fister: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.

It's outdated, it's a holdover from a time before we had a National Guard and it's used as a blanket shield by a handful of corporations to flood our society with weapons simply for the sake of profit without a thought given to the damage that it's doing to our people and society as a whole.

The Constitution is not written in stone and not only 'can' it be changed, but it 'should' be changed to reflect a changing nation. And I think it's past time for us to retire this Amendment. Guns do not make us safer. They make us less safe, less secure and they're a detriment to the common good of the American people.

Enough.

If yur gonna change it, legalize RPGs and machine guns so we can keep up with the neighbors.
THAT was the intent of the Constitution, to arm the citizens with people killing weapons.
Huntin' squirrel hardly seems to be worth all the Constitutionalizing.

Shoot, why stop there? Tactical nuclear weapons are just another step up the ladder.

When the neighbors get 'em, yes.
Sorry to say, but, yes.

well, there 'are' rumors of ex-Soviet sleeper agents with suitcase nukes out there still. And terrorists with the makings of 'dirty' radiation bombs.

Are we 'really' going to wait for them to set one off before arming ourselves with equivalent weaponry? Clearly, we have to be preemptive in this and arm ourselves with nuclear weaponry first.

It's the American way.

No it is not.
We always let the bad guy shoot first.
And mebee, a lil' help.

Truth, Justice and The American Way

And look at all those deaths that come from waiting first! Just think of the children.

As a matter of fact, let's put up some snipers on the roofs of all schools, just in case. And arm the teachers. And the lunch ladies.

You know, fark it, let's just arm all the kids.

I taught my 3 ...


Did you bring a gun to school for protection? No? Then I guess your training would have been pointless if Lanza had shown up at your own school at the wonderful age of 5.
 
2012-12-24 10:50:32 AM  

chuckufarlie: WhippingBoy: The surprising thing is that Americans still seem to be surprised by this. The rest of the world is wondering why this even rates as news any more.

You Americans need to get one of those "America: 2 days since last mass shooting" signs.

more like "America: 2 hours since last mass shooting"


more like "America: negative 2 seconds since last mass shooting"

/amirite
//did i hyperbole enough
 
2012-12-24 10:50:39 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: david_gaithersburg: Our second amendment also serves to guarantee that the government will think twice

You could just say, "I need these things to shoot American soldiers."
If you were honest.


.
Also, educate yourself and take a looksy at the oath taken by our military officers. They do not pledge to protect the government, they do not pledge to protect the president, they pledge to protect We The People and The Constitution. There is a very good reason the oath is written the way it is. 240 years ago our former army took a very different oath.
 
2012-12-24 10:50:43 AM  

KarmicDisaster: One thing that I didn't mention is that the registered owner of a car is responsible for crimes committed with the car.  If your car goes through a red light camera, the registered owner gets the ticket for example.


If you loan your car to Dave and he gets drunk and kills three people, they don't lock you up. We can have a debate about whether they should, but they currently don't. Most of the red light camera laws have provisions for the owner to swear out an affidavit identifying someone else as driving the car.

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be repercussions for providing a weapon to a crazy person or a felon. There certainly should. That's not the same as the strict liability some want for anyone who gives a gun to someone else who ultimately uses it to commit a crime.
 
2012-12-24 10:50:58 AM  

snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.


You really work at the stupid, eh?


lol insult. You got anything else?
 
2012-12-24 10:51:41 AM  
 
2012-12-24 10:51:51 AM  

Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.


You really work at the stupid, eh?

lol insult. You got anything else?


Question, not insult.
Read a lot?
 
2012-12-24 10:51:54 AM  
A Christmas Eve flamewar.  Who needs a yule log?
 
2012-12-24 10:52:05 AM  

Infernalist: Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I sa


He didn't steal them. They were in his mother's house. His mother taught him how to use them.
 
2012-12-24 10:52:18 AM  

Infernalist: Scerpes: Infernalist: Depends on the person, and whether they're actively trying to cause a serious physical injury to myself or someone else.

I wonder if Lanza thought those kids needed killing, too. You wonder?

And that would be a great reason to keep crazy people and people who make weapons available to crazy people from buying firearms. It sure would be nice to be able to have a database to check to see if someone is mentally ill, like we can do with felons.

Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I say.


Lanza apparently tried buying guns and was denied because he's crazy. And yes. I think we need to start taking into account who lives in the household with the potential gun owner. Currently, if you have a felon living in your house and he has access to your firearms, he just committed another felony and he's going to prison.
 
2012-12-24 10:52:19 AM  
cameroncrazy1984: Oh man, this might be some of your best trolling yet. Alright, if you can't legislate morality, why the 10 commandments?

Because the ten commandments aren't legislation, you miserable farktard.
 
2012-12-24 10:52:25 AM  

unpainted huffhines: Relevant.


Perfect! We currently have 12 million folks unemployed in the US. We can make them all federal agents to keep this country safe.
 
2012-12-24 10:52:27 AM  

LikeALeafOnTheWind: Im about half way through the book Columbine, pretty fascinating book. Most of what most people took away from that tragedy is a bunch of bull. I recommend the book for those that want a little insight into that nightmare. The guard at the school was armed and exchanged fire with the Columbine shooters. Additional police were on the scene very quickly, in only a matter of a few minutes. The chaos and uncertainty of the situation is what kept them from going into the school for nearly 45 minutes. Also.. the local cops engaged in a cover up.. Eric Harris had been reported to the police 15 times in the two years prior to the shooting. They had at one point drawn up a search warrant for his house because they had been told he was building pipe bombs. It was never executed.  Anyways.. check out the book it doesnt spend an inordinate amount of time on the gory details, and the rest of the story is intriguing.


Stop clouding the issue with facts and logic. ;-)

It's much easier to penalize the population while the illogical emotional frenzy is in full force.
 
2012-12-24 10:52:36 AM  

Infernalist: Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them.


Has that been established. His mother could have lent her guns to him.
"Mom, can I borrow the guns tonight?"
"Sure honey, just have them back by 9 PM"
 
2012-12-24 10:52:38 AM  

Scerpes: Infernalist: And some people need killing.

That's not for gun owners to decide.

Depends on the person, and whether they're actively trying to cause a serious physical injury to myself or someone else.


And compare the frequency of those events to the time spent in a car per person across the country.  Comparing accidental deaths during TRANSPORTATION to intentional use of a gun to harm people is the height of dishonesty and irresponsibility.

I really question the sanity and intelligence of anyone who SERIOUSLY believes such things, and I question the character of anyone who propagates such bullshiat knowingly.
 
2012-12-24 10:52:48 AM  

Scerpes: KarmicDisaster: One thing that I didn't mention is that the registered owner of a car is responsible for crimes committed with the car.  If your car goes through a red light camera, the registered owner gets the ticket for example.

If you loan your car to Dave and he gets drunk and kills three people, they don't lock you up. We can have a debate about whether they should, but they currently don't. Most of the red light camera laws have provisions for the owner to swear out an affidavit identifying someone else as driving the car.

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be repercussions for providing a weapon to a crazy person or a felon. There certainly should. That's not the same as the strict liability some want for anyone who gives a gun to someone else who ultimately uses it to commit a crime.


Cars Aren't Designed To Kill People. They're Not The Same As Guns.

farkin loon.
 
2012-12-24 10:53:03 AM  

Infernalist: Scerpes: Infernalist: Depends on the person, and whether they're actively trying to cause a serious physical injury to myself or someone else.

I wonder if Lanza thought those kids needed killing, too. You wonder?

And that would be a great reason to keep crazy people and people who make weapons available to crazy people from buying firearms. It sure would be nice to be able to have a database to check to see if someone is mentally ill, like we can do with felons.

Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I say.


Well in a lot of states if you are a legal owner of a firearm, and you will be breaking the law if you let a felon who is not supposed to be around guns live in the house where you keep your guns. Should be the same if a person living in your house has a mental issue and has been deemed potentially dangerous, you should have to remove your guns from the house if you want that person to live there or have unsupervised access to the house.
 
2012-12-24 10:53:30 AM  

snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.


You really work at the stupid, eh?

lol insult. You got anything else?

Question, not insult.
Read a lot?


That's all you got? Another insult? Why not address the post? Or can you not?
 
2012-12-24 10:53:34 AM  

Infernalist: Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I say.


And frankly, if Nancy Lanza was still alive, she should be held criminally liable for providing firearms and firearms training to an individual she new to be dangerous. She was warning the babysitter not to turn her back on him when he was 5 years old. Then, she taught him to use firearms. That's a problem.
 
2012-12-24 10:53:35 AM  

IronTom: or Detroit and Chicago.


See, the difference there is that the NYC gun ban has, you know, actual repercussions and teeth. The other two don't. But it's interesting that you have no idea why NYC gun crime has gone down.
 
2012-12-24 10:53:35 AM  
You build it, they will come
 
2012-12-24 10:54:18 AM  

ongbok: Infernalist: Scerpes: Infernalist: Depends on the person, and whether they're actively trying to cause a serious physical injury to myself or someone else.

I wonder if Lanza thought those kids needed killing, too. You wonder?

And that would be a great reason to keep crazy people and people who make weapons available to crazy people from buying firearms. It sure would be nice to be able to have a database to check to see if someone is mentally ill, like we can do with felons.

Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I say.

Well in a lot of states if you are a legal owner of a firearm, and you will be breaking the law if you let a felon who is not supposed to be around guns live in the house where you keep your guns. Should be the same if a person living in your house has a mental issue and has been deemed potentially dangerous, you should have to remove your guns from the house if you want that person to live there or have unsupervised access to the house.


My goodness, that makes sense. Why isn't that the law now?

Oh right. NRA.

lol
 
2012-12-24 10:54:25 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Not the first time first responders have been targeted.


Where I come from, you expect to get shot at. Avoiding getting shot is part of the job.
 
2012-12-24 10:55:01 AM  

letrole: cameroncrazy1984: Oh man, this might be some of your best trolling yet. Alright, if you can't legislate morality, why the 10 commandments?

Because the ten commandments aren't legislation, you miserable farktard.


Aw, is the troll getting angry? Then why are they called "laws"?
 
2012-12-24 10:55:02 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Natsumi: I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.

.
As human beings we believe ourselves to have certain basic human rights that are inalienable, and have provided that those basic human rights shall never be infringed upon by the government. One of those rights is the basic right to protect one's self from anything, including an out of control government. Our second amendment also serves to guarantee that the government will think twice before attempting to infringe upon any of the other basic human rights enshrined in the first ten amendments to our constitution.

240 years ago we had a standing army, and the best trained army in the world too. Our government became tyrannical and out of control, we took up arms and formed local militias to stand up against the biggest and best trained army and navy on the planet. That newly formed US government began to erode during the FDR administration and it is still slowly dissolving today.


A bunch of armed rednecks is not a guarantee of anything. You sure as hell could not stand up the the real military. You want to believe it because it gives your pathetic life some meaning.

You need to do some research on the American Revolution. The local militia did not win the war, It was a standing army that had been trained to fight in the European style. The militia was not reliable in battle. They were known to fire one round and then run away.

Also, what we see as the American Revolution was just part of a larger war that the British were fighting against the French.

The British did not lose the Revolution in America as much as they got tired of the conflict. Lots of your redneck buddies seem to think that you could win your war against the US government in the same way, that the govt. would get tired of the war and go home. You overlook the fact that they would already be at home, fighting an enemy that the majority would see as an enemy of the nation.
 
2012-12-24 10:55:22 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Infernalist: Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I sa

He didn't steal them. They were in his mother's house. His mother taught him how to use them.


You dont realize how dumb that line is. That's a shame.
 
2012-12-24 10:56:02 AM  
Why would anyone need this many matches in a single box!??
www.readydepot.com
 
2012-12-24 10:56:20 AM  

Scerpes: KarmicDisaster: One thing that I didn't mention is that the registered owner of a car is responsible for crimes committed with the car.  If your car goes through a red light camera, the registered owner gets the ticket for example.

If you loan your car to Dave and he gets drunk and kills three people, they don't lock you up. We can have a debate about whether they should, but they currently don't. Most of the red light camera laws have provisions for the owner to swear out an affidavit identifying someone else as driving the car.

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be repercussions for providing a weapon to a crazy person or a felon. There certainly should. That's not the same as the strict liability some want for anyone who gives a gun to someone else who ultimately uses it to commit a crime.


No, of course not. If you report it stolen, or someone steals it and you don't know, not your problem. It would be the same with guns. But if you lend them your car/gun then you share responsibility as a participant in the crime.  Many states already have a "if kids get hold of your unlocked gun it's your fault" law, that is what I was thinking of.  Guns should be licensed and regulated exactly like cars in almost all respects, which aren't even weapons we are told.
 
2012-12-24 10:56:21 AM  

Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.


You really work at the stupid, eh?

lol insult. You got anything else?

Question, not insult.
Read a lot?

That's all you got? Another insult? Why not address the post? Or can you not?


Maybe if I put it in braille???
 
2012-12-24 10:56:32 AM  

Kubo: I hate this.


How nice for you.
 
2012-12-24 10:56:53 AM  

Scerpes: Infernalist: Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I say.

And frankly, if Nancy Lanza was still alive, she should be held criminally liable for providing firearms and firearms training to an individual she new to be dangerous. She was warning the babysitter not to turn her back on him when he was 5 years old. Then, she taught him to use firearms. That's a problem.


that would show her!!

Oh wait, she is dead. Go put your law book away.
 
2012-12-24 10:57:14 AM  

snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: snocone: Infernalist: I'll be the first one to come out and admit it.

I think it's time we did away with the 2nd Amendment.


You really work at the stupid, eh?

lol insult. You got anything else?

Question, not insult.
Read a lot?

That's all you got? Another insult? Why not address the post? Or can you not?

Maybe if I put it in braille???


Got nothing to contribute, huh? Okay.
 
2012-12-24 10:57:48 AM  
Since no one else here has the guts, I'm just going to say it.

They have it coming.

Driving around like lunatics in their gigantic, pimped out rides. Blinding everyone with their vehicle-bling. Honking and blaring their "weee-oooo" music at all hours of the night, driving like they own the road. Parking wherever the hell they feel like it, and wearing suspenders well after they fell from fashion.

There's only so much people will put up with before they react.
 
2012-12-24 10:57:59 AM  

Mrbogey: cameroncrazy1984: Infernalist: Lanza didn't buy his guns. He stole them. Are you suggesting that we violate the civil rights of a potential gun owner because he has a son with autism? I'm shocked at you, sirrah. Shocked, I sa

He didn't steal them. They were in his mother's house. His mother taught him how to use them.

You dont realize how dumb that line is. That's a shame.


You don't know that when you call other people dumb, you should probably use contractions properly.
 
2012-12-24 10:58:18 AM  

chuckufarlie: david_gaithersburg: Natsumi: I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.

.
As human beings we believe ourselves to have certain basic human rights that are inalienable, and have provided that those basic human rights shall never be infringed upon by the government. One of those rights is the basic right to protect one's self from anything, including an out of control government. Our second amendment also serves to guarantee that the government will think twice before attempting to infringe upon any of the other basic human rights enshrined in the first ten amendments to our constitution.

240 years ago we had a standing army, and the best trained army in the world too. Our government became tyrannical and out of control, we took up arms and formed local militias to stand up against the biggest and best trained army and navy on the planet. That newly formed US government began to erode during the FDR administration and it is still slowly dissolving today.

A bunch of armed rednecks is not a guarantee of anything. You sure as hell could not stand up the the real military. You want to believe it because it gives your pathetic life some meaning.

You need to do some research on the American Revolution. The local militia did not win the war, It was a standing army that had been trained to fight in the European style. The militia was not reliable in battle. They were known to fire one round and then run away.

Also, what we see as the American Revolution was just part of a larger war that the British were fighting against the French.

The British did not lose the Revolution in America as much as they got tired of the conflict. Lots of your redneck buddies seem to think that you could win your war against the US government in the same way, that the govt. would get tired of ...


Hey everyone - it's this guy again. He's kind of worthless.

But amusing. Has he started up with the MADD-like posts trying to shame you with emotions yet?
 
2012-12-24 10:58:23 AM  

Mimic_Octopus: Infernalist: t actually happene

oh, well. ours then. you are familiar with how troops were raised from up and down the eastern seaboard and frontier for the revolution, no ?


Did you or i have a stroke? You can't seem to use the quote button right...
 
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