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(WHAM Rochester) NewsFlash NRA yesterday: We should have armed guards at every school. NRA after this morning: We're gonna need armed guards at fires too   (13wham.com) divider line 1058
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2012-12-24 09:25:38 AM  
How about an armed guard for this thread?
 
2012-12-24 09:25:59 AM  
Not sure what shooting the *firefighters* will accomplish, especially if you live in the neighborhood where they're trying to PUT OUT THE FIRE.
 
2012-12-24 09:26:16 AM  
God damnit what's wrong with people?
 
2012-12-24 09:26:23 AM  
I always wondered why more schools don't employ a few members of the local police force to provide security.

/ I know a few do, but not all.
 
2012-12-24 09:26:35 AM  
Yay for morons.
 
2012-12-24 09:27:00 AM  

Catymogo1: Not sure what shooting the *firefighters* will accomplish, especially if you live in the neighborhood where they're trying to PUT OUT THE FIRE.


If you're the one that set it, you may not want to see it extinguished.
 
2012-12-24 09:27:09 AM  
Honestly, he doesn't need to say one single thing. He should stop talking.

The fear of inability to buy weapons in the future has many gun stores cleaned out.

NRA should sit back and relax. Let the Obama administration keep on keepin' on.
 
2012-12-24 09:27:10 AM  
I'll take coo coo for cocoa puffs for 1500 Alex.
 
2012-12-24 09:27:42 AM  
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Too soon?
 
2012-12-24 09:28:10 AM  
I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.
 
2012-12-24 09:29:03 AM  
Is the Dalmatian okay? *prepares to speed-dial PETA*
 
2012-12-24 09:29:09 AM  

iheartscotch: I always wondered why more schools don't employ a few members of the local police force to provide security.

/ I know a few do, but not all.


Or just have a discrete substation/cop cafe/doughnut shop on school grounds just like our old Walmart used to do.
 
2012-12-24 09:29:22 AM  
And another one cracks.
 
2012-12-24 09:29:27 AM  

iheartscotch: I always wondered why more schools don't employ a few members of the local police force to provide security.

/ I know a few do, but not all.


Columbine High School had armed guards.
 
2012-12-24 09:29:35 AM  
The wounded firefighter was taken to Strong Memorial Hospital by Mercy Flight. Strong Hospital confirms two firefighters are being treated there.

Wanted for questioning:
www.brightsideofnews.com
 
2012-12-24 09:30:56 AM  
Are the guns okay? That's the important thing. Let's keep some perspective here
 
2012-12-24 09:31:47 AM  
Meth lab?
 
2012-12-24 09:32:02 AM  
Did s/he set the fire to attract firefighters to shoot or is s/he shooting the firefighters because they are trying to put out the fire?
 
2012-12-24 09:32:27 AM  
 
2012-12-24 09:32:43 AM  
If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.
 
2012-12-24 09:33:06 AM  

Verrai: iheartscotch: I always wondered why more schools don't employ a few members of the local police force to provide security.

/ I know a few do, but not all.

Columbine High School had armed guards.


Does that mean it can't work because it didn't in that particular situation?
 
2012-12-24 09:33:44 AM  

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Too soon?


Just a bit. Go back to 4chan, you 12 year old chucklef*ck.
 
2012-12-24 09:33:45 AM  

Natsumi: I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.


It's being overblown by the media.
Yesterday somehow 319,999,999 people managed to not shoot anybody.
 
2012-12-24 09:34:14 AM  
Not sure if I've ever seen the fire department was dispatched to a location where the police didn't also respond...

WTF?
 
2012-12-24 09:34:21 AM  
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2012-12-24 09:34:36 AM  

FarkinFarker: God damnit what's wrong with people?


Some people just want to watch the world burn.
 
2012-12-24 09:34:59 AM  
Those damn video games!!!!
 
2012-12-24 09:35:24 AM  
da fuq is wrong with people!?

/almost seems as though some entity is just trying to get your gun rights taken away.
 
2012-12-24 09:35:30 AM  
any possibility that live rounds could have asploded due to the fire?

/devils advocate
//think of the bullets - they only have one chance to get it right.
 
2012-12-24 09:35:55 AM  

Verrai: iheartscotch: I always wondered why more schools don't employ a few members of the local police force to provide security.

/ I know a few do, but not all.

Columbine High School had armed guards.


.....

You know who else had guards who were less that effective at ensuring that the people they were guarding did not die?
 
2012-12-24 09:36:10 AM  
Three Firefighters Shot at Scene of Webster Fire

Webster fire?
 
2012-12-24 09:36:57 AM  
ARSONISTS ARE ON 0BAMA'S PAYROLL. THIS IS WHY THEY GET ALL THE GIRLS.
 
2012-12-24 09:37:04 AM  

Easy Reader: If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.


But you don't. Unless you're crazy/f*cking stupid. You aren't either of those, are you?
 
2012-12-24 09:37:31 AM  
Holy crap. I grew up a few miles from there on the same street. Street is filled with retirees and recluses. I guess a lot has changed in 12 years with the McMansions going up on that road for the lake view.

Violence of this nature in this town is unheard of.
 
2012-12-24 09:38:16 AM  
This is disgusting.  Last thing I need to worry about is another piece of gear on the fire scene.  Let's see...we have:  Helmet, bunker pants, bunker coat, hood, 2x pair gloves, radio, flashlight, boots, mask, airpack, pliers, Z-hook, thermal camera, gas meter, axe, halligan, sidearm.  WTF.
 
2012-12-24 09:38:26 AM  

Easy Reader: If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.


I get it:  gun violence is caused by liberals working for Obama has part of a grand conspiracy to take away our guns?
 
2012-12-24 09:39:01 AM  
He built a fire on main street, and shot it full of holes.
 
2012-12-24 09:39:03 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: ARSONISTS ARE ON 0BAMA'S PAYROLL. THIS IS WHY THEY GET ALL THE GIRLS.


www.gnorb.net
Shorty fires do not work that way!
 
2012-12-24 09:39:16 AM  

Wise_Guy: Verrai: iheartscotch: I always wondered why more schools don't employ a few members of the local police force to provide security.

/ I know a few do, but not all.

Columbine High School had armed guards.

Does that mean it can't work because it didn't in that particular situation?


No, but it does show that if someone who is batshiat crazy and heavily armed wants to kill a shiatload of people, simply havng an armed guard probably won't help that much. They'll just shoot the guard and get to it.
 
2012-12-24 09:39:27 AM  
Isn't this how American History X started?
 
2012-12-24 09:40:07 AM  

Catymogo1: Not sure what shooting the *firefighters* will accomplish, especially if you live in the neighborhood where they're trying to PUT OUT THE FIRE.


Could be the guy that started the fire.
Arsonists are crazy too.
 
2012-12-24 09:40:09 AM  
How come the NRA wasn't clamoring for all blacks to carry guns after Trayvon Martin was killed?
 
2012-12-24 09:40:26 AM  
The problem with spree shootings isn't the innercity youths who are indeed armed to the teeth and willing to pull the trigger. The vast majority of firearm murders in the US comes from gangbangers and street thugs killing each other for practical reasons -- with specific targets. If the number of guns or the mere presense of guns were the problem, then you would expect to see pointless mass murders on the news each night.

The problem is rich white male misfits. Modern society is corrupt. The natural mechanisms that always kept erratic behaviour in check have been broken and perverted to favour the individual at the expense of the community.

1. If suicide is no longer a sin,
2. If public disobedience and defiance against authority are glorified,
3. If fame or celebrity is rewarded without merit,
4. If Right and Wrong are no longer absolute,
5. If erratic behaviour is no longer shameful,
6. If internal or self justification is held as a virtue,

-- then it will all continue along this path until society completely collapses, and a new order reforms from the ashes
 
2012-12-24 09:40:51 AM  

SumJackass07: Catymogo1: Not sure what shooting the *firefighters* will accomplish, especially if you live in the neighborhood where they're trying to PUT OUT THE FIRE.

If you're the one that set it, you may not want to see it extinguished.


That's true, too. Didn't think of it like that. Clearly the only option is to arm the firefighters.
 
2012-12-24 09:41:11 AM  

Wise_Guy: Verrai: iheartscotch: I always wondered why more schools don't employ a few members of the local police force to provide security.

/ I know a few do, but not all.

Columbine High School had armed guards.

Does that mean it can't work because it didn't in that particular situation?


You know the rules; if it doesn't work in one situation; then it can't possibly work in any future situation, ever!

/ I didn't remember columbine had armed guards; I'm betting they were busy not getting shot.
 
2012-12-24 09:41:34 AM  

czei: Easy Reader: If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.

I get it:  gun violence is caused by liberals working for Obama has part of a grand conspiracy to take away our guns?


Oh, no...our government would never crate the problem and have the solution waiting in the wings...
Never...ever.

The government is your freind and really cares about you.
 
2012-12-24 09:41:37 AM  

Natsumi: I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.


There's  a part in our constitution that guarantees our right to bear arms and maintain a militia and it seems a lot of people seem to think there should be no restrictions on any guns at all because of it - no training classes required, no test, buy semi-autos and automatic weapons if you want them - things like that. Which is stupid when you have such a cultural problem in your country with people mishandling guns or outright going on a killing  spree.

We also  apparently have more crazy people. When I lived in Norway for a brief time, where many are also avid hunters, there were no such problems. They recently had that one incident where a crazy rampage shooter, Anders Breivik,  killed over 80 people, but  other than  that, it's usually pretty calm over there, except for stabbings, but you are going to have a hard time taking out multiple targets with a knife very effectively. So I'm going to go with "Americans are crazy, though I am still  proud to be one, I am just sad about all of this". Especially since I am a gun owner myself. So is my sister, and we live in the same house.

/all guns are safely locked away when not in use, except one
 
2012-12-24 09:42:08 AM  

Easy Reader: If I was believing in conspiracies, I'd say shooting firefighters working a fire was the most perfectly timed next step toward villainizing guns and gun people.


or pushing an agenda to have radical right wing gun nutz stationed all of the cities of America, just waiting to take over.
 
2012-12-24 09:42:09 AM  
You are going to need armed guards at every gathering of any sort. And since the NRA thinks that in an ideal world it is everyone's right to carry everywhere, you won't be able to exclude people with guns from any gathering. You will have to wait until they start shooting.  Then you will also need guard for the guards if they turn out to be as reliable as TSA.
 
2012-12-24 09:42:30 AM  

Natsumi: I don't know if this has been asked before and please be nice... I don't live in America...
What is it with people and guns in America? Really?
I mean we (in Namibia) are avid hunters and such but we don't really take it to this level.


There's a lot of colored boys and Messicans in the USA who are just waiting for the chance to break into the homes of real 'Murrucans in order to rape their white women, steal their bibles, and burn their American flags. To prevent this, it's necessary to own military grade weapons. It's just common sense.
 
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