THE GREAT NAME: climate change... is not real.
THE GREAT NAME: Climatology IS EXACTLY THE SAME as Scientology.
THE GREAT NAME: Climate change isn't real.
THE GREAT NAME: There is NO DIFFERENCE between climatology and intelligent design.
Actor_au: It was 34c today for me.
GeneralJim: Damnhippyfreak:Your misguided attempt to look for some sort of all-or-nothing "either any peer-reviewed paper carries weight, or none of them do" without any consideration of the quality or veracity of the evidence presented, shows, again, how little you consider the actual evidence behind a claim in the first place.That's a mighty fine log you have in your eye.Listen, Mr. Whistle -- you have not the tiniest bit of room to talk. In EVERY instance, your "evaluation of the quality of research" has fallen according to whether or not that research supports AGW.
GeneralJim: When I have shown you how you can prove Michael Mann has engaged in deliberate fraud for yourself, you have ignored it.
GeneralJim: Meanwhile, Miskolczi publishes a major work that shot the then current AGW theory in the heart, and which goes unchallenged for nearly five years, and it's nothing, or badly done, according to you. Really?
GeneralJim: You display the massive ignorance you enjoy in this subject -- science does not work that way. Should another Velikovsky paper be discovered, with more of his planet-slinging physics-denying crap, it would be eviscerated in no time. Bad science which claims to overturn current science in ANY field is contested with cold facts in a time frame most conveniently measured in single-digit weeks -- unless the bad science is supported by government money. But, the "official" take on climatology is upended, and there is no peer-reviewed comment for almost five years? That is the ACTUAL pattern of an "inconvenient truth."
GeneralJim: The fact that the planet is backing Miskolczi up with a stoppage of warming, impossible, according to all the warmer alarmist models, despite all the after-the-fact attempts to back-pedal by warmer alarmists. I note that NO warmer alarmist ever claimed that a more-than-a-decade "pause" in warming was either expected or possible. Rather, the patently absurd idea of "tipping points" being reached, which would cascade and accelerate "dangerous warming" was a topic of discussion.
GeneralJim: 15 years is close to meaningless when it comes to climate
GeneralJim: The planet is telling you to fark off, you have it wrong. And all the bluster about an "expected pause" in warming is bollocks. NOTHING was said of such a thing -- until it happened.
GeneralJim: The last fifteen years of no warming caught the warmer alarmists flat-footed, and they have countered with ever more dire, and ever more urgent warnings about the dangerous warming -- which isn't taking place.
GeneralJim: Things have gotten so surreal that the claim has been made that one of the effects of global warming is global cooling. The desperation is palpable.
GeneralJim: Damnhippyfreak: Well, it's up to you, but your extreme unwillingness to back up a claim you've made renders it indistinguishable from an outright lie.We've been over this before. You "assign" research as a punishment for not agreeing with you. A couple years ago, I spent probably 8 hours looking up and reading papers published on the subjects of gravity and evolution, just to prove to Monkey Boy that papers DO question the basics of pretty much everything -- except, of course, AGW. They skipped that whole "theory" step, and promoted the AGW hypothesis right to Natural Law, and gave it diplomatic immunity.Your continual requests for repeats of research are abusive. If I do this, you have to agree to pay me, say, $25 for every 2011 peer-reviewed paper I find which questions our fundamental understanding of either gravity or evolution. How does that sound? That's probably cheap for professional research.
I've seen you make this claim before. Can you back it up in some way?
abb3w: Jim from Saint Paul:When I went to work this morning it was 17 degrees Faren. The Wind chill was 5 degrees and it was snowing.Pretty sure that's what everyone EXPECTS from my state.Actually, (positive) double digits before windchill sounds like it might be a bit warm for Minnesota this time of year, depending on what part of the state you're in.
THE GREAT NAME: fYou appear unable to debate the issues, instead resorting to personal attacks. I wonder why?
Ctrl-Alt-Del: THE GREAT NAME: climate change... is not real.THE GREAT NAME: Climatology IS EXACTLY THE SAME as Scientology.THE GREAT NAME: Climate change isn't real.THE GREAT NAME: There is NO DIFFERENCE between climatology and intelligent design.[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 593x338]Trying too hard
ManRay: iwatts: Christmas Trees are a fairly wasteful thing anyway, Grow a tree for seven years so you can cut it down at let it dry out in your house for a few days. I'm not a Grinch, but the artificial ones look better, and are WAY more environmentally conscious if that is indeed the type of thing that you worry about.But fake trees are made of plastic (oil). Real Christmas trees are grown for only one purpose so "wild" trees are not depleted. Seems like a pretty good deal to me. Plus you get the benefits of the tree for the years it is growing.
Actor_au: It was 34c today for me. Don't tell me climate change isn't real.
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