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(Mother Jones)   Forget atheists and other non-believers, the real war on Christmas is climate change   (motherjones.com) divider line 189
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2012-12-24 09:55:51 AM
Fake Christmas tree. No insect invasion. No lights. problem solved.
 
2012-12-24 09:56:04 AM
so we have nothing at all to worry about!

Got it!
 
2012-12-24 09:57:33 AM
About two years ago I saw my first white christmas. It was fun for a few hours, but with Atlanta's notorious lack of plows and salt trucks it just became a nuisance the next day.
 
2012-12-24 09:59:10 AM
Huh, RTFA. That sucks too.
 
2012-12-24 10:05:23 AM
Phffft. Just another aired grievance.

Solution:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-24 10:14:58 AM
Climate change was created by Baby Boomers so that more hurricanes hit the northeast; making it possible for them to get their musical nostalgia fix every year.
 
2012-12-24 10:15:15 AM
Climate change is just part of the War on Christmas, instigated by atheists, non-believers, George Soros and Bill Ayers.
 
2012-12-24 10:18:27 AM
Climate Change was invented by God to teach man a lesson about taking care of the world He created for them.
 
2012-12-24 10:18:43 AM
Mother Jones? Nice try subby. Not clicking.
 
2012-12-24 10:18:52 AM
Is this how fark gets page views on Xmas eve? Atheism and climate change troll fest?
 
2012-12-24 10:21:10 AM
Climate Change?

When I went to work this morning it was 17 degrees Faren. The Wind chill was 5 degrees and it was snowing.

Pretty sure that's what everyone EXPECTS from my state.
 
2012-12-24 10:24:11 AM
Can you make alcohol from puny trees?
Can you eat them?

Dodo time for the trees!
 
2012-12-24 10:24:27 AM
Then Christmas is safe, because climate change, being based on superstition, pseudoscience and political hype, is not real.
 
2012-12-24 10:25:01 AM
But it's not a political issue in the least.
 
2012-12-24 10:25:46 AM
It was 34c today for me. Don't tell me climate change isn't real.
 
2012-12-24 10:27:35 AM
Climatology IS EXACTLY THE SAME as Scientology.
 
2012-12-24 10:27:47 AM
So. Just so we're clear....any drought now is due to Climate Change?

Christmas Trees are a fairly wasteful thing anyway, Grow a tree for seven years so you can cut it down at let it dry out in your house for a few days. I'm not a Grinch, but the artificial ones look better, and are WAY more environmentally conscious if that is indeed the type of thing that you worry about.
 
2012-12-24 10:28:28 AM

Actor_au: It was 34c today for me. Don't tell me climate change isn't real.


Climate change isn't real. Sometimes it gets hot. Deal with it.
 
2012-12-24 10:29:50 AM
There is NO DIFFERENCE between climatology and intelligent design.
 
2012-12-24 10:32:03 AM

Jim from Saint Paul: When I went to work this morning it was 17 degrees Faren. The Wind chill was 5 degrees and it was snowing.
Pretty sure that's what everyone EXPECTS from my state.


Actually, (positive) double digits before windchill sounds like it might be a bit warm for Minnesota this time of year, depending on what part of the state you're in.
 
2012-12-24 10:34:17 AM
It's not winter everywhere at christmas. Where I grew up it was a cold-cut buffet lunch and a day at the beach.
 
2012-12-24 10:35:25 AM
Climate change is the tinfoil that leftists, minorities, and nearsighted bassoonists use to keep snow off of their rooftops.
 
2012-12-24 10:35:26 AM
I live in Alabama. None of our weather during the Fall or the first half of Winter has ever a damn lick of sense.
 
2012-12-24 10:37:42 AM
Don't kill a perfectly good tree. Go artificial, or better yet, plant your tree in a moveable container if you have room and use it year after year and make the tree part of the family. When it gets too big, plant it and start over.
 
2012-12-24 10:40:05 AM
Since before the dawn of humanity, temperatures have changed with the seasons. Before he could predict them, man was terrified of them. He invented gods, devils and supernatural forces to explain them, and tried to appease these powers with sacrifices and obedience. Opportunistic men designated themselves earthly representatives; they gained power over other men and collected wealth through taxation.

Once man did become able to predict them, he simply made calendars, and got on with his life.

Which stage is "climatology" at?
 
2012-12-24 10:41:09 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: About two years ago I saw my first white christmas. It was fun for a few hours, but with Atlanta's notorious lack of plows and salt trucks it just became a nuisance the next day.


I have lived here all my life, and I missed Atlanta's white Christmas because that was the year the family decided to go to Florida for the Holiday.
Just my luck.

iwatts: Christmas Trees are a fairly wasteful thing anyway, Grow a tree for seven years so you can cut it down at let it dry out in your house for a few days. I'm not a Grinch, but the artificial ones look better, and are WAY more environmentally conscious if that is indeed the type of thing that you worry about.


But fake trees are made of plastic (oil). Real Christmas trees are grown for only one purpose so "wild" trees are not depleted. Seems like a pretty good deal to me. Plus you get the benefits of the tree for the years it is growing.
 
2012-12-24 10:42:59 AM

Actor_au: It was 34c today for me. Don't tell me climate change isn't real.


Sounds cold. What's that in Real American degrees?
 
2012-12-24 10:44:34 AM
I was always a fan of real trees until having that pine needle surgically removed from my toe in frikkin' May! No amount of vaccuuming will get them all.
 
2012-12-24 10:46:47 AM

Actor_au: It was 34c today for me.


Those are pretty much my favorite size boobs too. Good choice!
 
2012-12-24 10:46:49 AM
As I guy who has a fake tree and likes being able to go to a football game in short sleeves 2 days before Christmas, I have no problem with this.
 
2012-12-24 10:48:45 AM

ManRay:
iwatts: Christmas Trees are a fairly wasteful thing anyway, Grow a tree for seven years so you can cut it down at let it dry out in your house for a few days. I'm not a Grinch, but the artificial ones look better, and are WAY more environmentally conscious if that is indeed the type of thing that you worry about.

But fake trees are made of plastic (oil). Real Christmas trees are grown for only one purpose so "wild" trees are not depleted. Seems like a pretty good deal to me. Plus you get the benefits of the tree for the years it is growing.


But ManRay, has has told the internet that he is environmentally conscious, and that is enough to sate his thought masters for now.
 
2012-12-24 10:49:45 AM

THE GREAT NAME: climate change... is not real.


THE GREAT NAME: Climatology IS EXACTLY THE SAME as Scientology.


THE GREAT NAME: Climate change isn't real.


THE GREAT NAME: There is NO DIFFERENCE between climatology and intelligent design.


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Trying too hard
 
2012-12-24 10:51:43 AM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: THE GREAT NAME: climate change... is not real.

THE GREAT NAME: Climatology IS EXACTLY THE SAME as Scientology.

THE GREAT NAME: Climate change isn't real.

THE GREAT NAME: There is NO DIFFERENCE between climatology and intelligent design.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 593x338]

Trying too hard


It is important to communicate these facts.
 
2012-12-24 10:53:50 AM

TomD9938: Actor_au: It was 34c today for me. Don't tell me climate change isn't real.

Sounds cold. What's that in Real American degrees?


93F.
 
2012-12-24 10:54:36 AM
Begun, this christmas war has.
 
2012-12-24 10:59:20 AM
Everytime there is a vaguely weather related event the climate change greenie loons come out of the wood work. It was a damn drought that killed the trees. There have been droughts for millions of years, well before man started his activities that are supposedly creating climate change. Quite making shiat up or attempting to connect unrelated events.
 
2012-12-24 11:03:11 AM
So summer drought kills some Christmas trees. Then the price of trees goes up because there are fewer trees and a mofo'ing tree grower is gonna get paid, yo. It ain't his fault that he now has less trees to sell. Christmas is the time to get payd! So anyway, maybe a few poor families get priced out of having a Christmas tree that year and they set up a pine branch like a Charlie Brown Christmas and they sit around and exchange road kill wrapped in newspaper for gifts. But it's more special that way. So this will actually strengthen the Christmas tradition, not wage war on it.
 
2012-12-24 11:07:23 AM
This is our 3rd year of the fake tree goodness. I don't think we are ver going back again.

Between the expense, the extra work, and the godaweful mess it makes.... Eh, do not want.
 
2012-12-24 11:16:14 AM
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2012-12-24 11:21:38 AM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: THE GREAT NAME: climate change... is not real.

THE GREAT NAME: Climatology IS EXACTLY THE SAME as Scientology.

THE GREAT NAME: Climate change isn't real.

THE GREAT NAME: There is NO DIFFERENCE between climatology and intelligent design.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 593x338]

Trying too hard


I'm not even sure he's trying. I think he's just naturally bad at this.
 
2012-12-24 11:29:58 AM

friday13: Ctrl-Alt-Del: THE GREAT NAME: climate change... is not real.

THE GREAT NAME: Climatology IS EXACTLY THE SAME as Scientology.

THE GREAT NAME: Climate change isn't real.

THE GREAT NAME: There is NO DIFFERENCE between climatology and intelligent design.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 593x338]

Trying too hard

I'm not even sure he's trying. I think he's just naturally bad at this.


You appear unable to debate the issues, instead resorting to personal attacks. I wonder why?
 
2012-12-24 11:31:58 AM
His point is valid.
If it were the start of Christmas.
But it's here now, and it means something different now.
It's a time for giving, parties and worshiping the lord.  I doubt God is pissed off about it.
 
2012-12-24 11:36:52 AM

iwatts: So. Just so we're clear....any drought now is due to Climate Change?

Christmas Trees are a fairly wasteful thing anyway, Grow a tree for seven years so you can cut it down at let it dry out in your house for a few days. I'm not a Grinch, but the artificial ones look better, and are WAY more environmentally conscious if that is indeed the type of thing that you worry about.


But the real ones smell better.

/amirite?
 
2012-12-24 11:46:27 AM

iwatts: So. Just so we're clear....any drought now is due to Climate Change?

Christmas Trees are a fairly wasteful thing anyway, Grow a tree for seven years so you can cut it down at let it dry out in your house for a few days. I'm not a Grinch, but the artificial ones look better, and are WAY more environmentally conscious if that is indeed the type of thing that you worry about.


Four words for you: carbon neutral renewable resource.

And if you recycle it, it can become paper or mulch afterward.

Locally grown is even better, since the transport cost and pollution are negligible.
 
2012-12-24 11:52:54 AM

LazarusLong42: iwatts: So. Just so we're clear....any drought now is due to Climate Change?

Christmas Trees are a fairly wasteful thing anyway, Grow a tree for seven years so you can cut it down at let it dry out in your house for a few days. I'm not a Grinch, but the artificial ones look better, and are WAY more environmentally conscious if that is indeed the type of thing that you worry about.

Four words for you: carbon neutral renewable resource.

And if you recycle it, it can become paper or mulch afterward.

Locally grown is even better, since the transport cost and pollution are negligible.



Besides that, the carbon footprint really doesn't change in any meanful way because they immediately replant the forests after the trees are taken down. It may upset the balance for a couple of years, but it's been going on like that since we started tree farms.

And, yeah the recycling this is very important too... In my area, we have an ecological center. If you don't drop you tree there yourself, the township will come but with a chipper and take it for you. Then the pile all the shaving up and let them ferment for a few years. Free mulch for whoever wants it.
 
2012-12-24 11:54:51 AM
Rochester, NY had its first snowfall of the winter on Saturday.

Average for December used to be 21 inches, though not this year (or last). Between October and the end of the year, we usually average 29 inches, but not this time.
 
2012-12-24 12:21:51 PM

Actor_au: It was 34c today for me. Don't tell me climate change isn't real.


You're just bogarting all that warmth, ya know

i.imgur.com
Link
 
2012-12-24 12:23:11 PM
Every year we hear about some new front in the "War on Christmas" that liberals are supposedly waging against this most important of all Christian holidays. But an actual war on Christmas is coming-and it's spurred by climate change. It's a liberal conspiracy!

The summer drought caused many Christmas holiday tree seedlings in Tennessee to die this year, The Tennessean reports:


Took a whole three sentences before conflating weather and climate this time. Not bad for internet journalism.
 
2012-12-24 12:37:04 PM
It is 71 degrees here today in Texas.

Totally not in the Christmas spirit today.

/Freezing temps come Wednesday
//TOO LATE
 
2012-12-24 12:42:57 PM

THE GREAT NAME: fYou appear unable to debate the issues, instead resorting to personal attacks. I wonder why?


Wait... That was your actual argument before?  That was you 'debating the issue'?

Wow.
 
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