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(Politico)   The real victims of the Fiscal Cliff: Media pundits   (politico.com ) divider line
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2012-12-24 09:17:02 AM  
Too many journalists cover a non-story, or a story where there's little development, so the next logical step is to have journalists write stories about the journalists who cover the story.

Someone should write a book about passing off crap as news.
 
2012-12-24 09:51:02 AM  
And garden centers will be in trouble once people realize planting annuals is a rip-off. Keep pushing the same bullshiat forever and people will get fed up.

At least I'll sell you a pretty flower that won't last instead of temporary terror.
 
2012-12-24 09:53:49 AM  
And even though the fiscal cliff is preoccupying Washington, that doesn't mean it is always engaging for the media. Important, sure, but is it really that interesting to talk about day in, day out?

How about talking about something else then, asshole?
 
2012-12-24 09:55:01 AM  
The 'fiscal cliff' is an important story that will affect the country and it should be getting a lot of coverage. Unfortunately it can't be covered like a horse race, it will affect everyone in various ways from subtle to drastic, it requires math and there are no boobies. The crappy US media doesn't know how to report on a story that doesn't have boobies.
 
2012-12-24 10:02:25 AM  
Was it Sherman who said that if he killed them all, he expected he'd be getting updates from hell by breakfast?
 
2012-12-24 10:03:09 AM  
The nice thing about working in modern media? You don't have to worry about regular colonoscopies. You can climb up your own asshole any time you want.
 
2012-12-24 10:03:18 AM  
Oh! and the other thing...

Because of the elections, Americans have been inundated with Washington Politics news now for a year and a half. We're sick of it. In the olden days we'd get a reprieve from Washington politics after the presidential election. We'd only get stories about things the First Dog got the president for Christmas. The most controversial stories would be about nativity scenes at courthouses. The 'fiscal cliff' has injected Washington politics into everyone's lives for the last two months during a time when we really don't care.
 
2012-12-24 10:14:44 AM  
As always, only NPR has been doing accurate reporting on this, which is:

-The sky will not fall if we go over the cliff.
-Sequestration does not actually require immediate cuts, but that come the end of the year, total spending be reduce. That means the various departments facing cuts can assume a deal will be cut by the end of January and keep operating at current (or slightly) spending levels.
-Unless Obama gets 100% of what he wants, he might as well go over the cliff. He gets everything he wants plus even more leverage.
-The only real development in the story so far is the implosion of the GOP.
 
2012-12-24 10:15:25 AM  
www.frumforum.com

/ Doesn't that pic make Krauthammer look like a calculated killer?
 
2012-12-24 10:16:09 AM  

Muta: Americans have been inundated with Washington Politics news now for a year and a half. We're sick of it


I think there's also a sense that (like just about everything else on Capitol Hill) this is all about politics. It's all about scoring political points and not about the best interest of the Nation. The irony is that the best outcome of this mess is if we go off the Fiscal Cliff. Unfortunately, some form of Cliff-avoiding legislation will get passed.
 
2012-12-24 10:24:35 AM  

Mantour: / Doesn't that pic make Krauthammer look like a calculated killer?


That desk makes him look like a dog farker. This is the workspace of the industrious and bootstappy?
 
2012-12-24 10:27:52 AM  
So, if we go over cuts occur with revenue increases. Does that mean the credit rating should go back up? And if so, how long before the republicans decry an AAA rating as suddenly bad?
 
2012-12-24 10:29:37 AM  

67 Beetle: Unfortunately, some form of Cliff-avoiding legislation will get passed.


one hopes not because it will prove beyond any doubt that Washington is all about posturing and the concerns of the rest of America don't matter.

keeping ANY of the Bush tax cuts is stupid if you are serious about reducing the debt and deficit. and the payroll tax "holiday" is another bad idea. let's keep money from going to SS all the while bemoaning how it's going broke.  WTF  yes we needed stimulus but it's time to look beyond that.
 
2012-12-24 10:30:28 AM  

Muta: The 'fiscal cliff' is an important story that will affect the country and it should be getting a lot of coverage. Unfortunately it can't be covered like a horse race, it will affect everyone in various ways from subtle to drastic, it requires math and there are no boobies. The crappy US media doesn't know how to report on a story that doesn't have boobies.


Which is why I am proposing a radical new boobies tax to bring in new revenues. The tax amounts and rates have not been determined yet, but will be in proportion to cup size. To alleviate concerns of sexism inherent to this tax, man-boobs will be taxed at double rates. However, back-boobs will be taxed at triple rates. A new branch of the IRS will also be formed to audit measurements creating 10,000 new jobs.
 
2012-12-24 10:33:33 AM  
I want to know who jad thr job of countintg the number of "liberal fiscal cliff" utterances.That is not a job I would tell my family I had.
 
2012-12-24 10:34:03 AM  

chico_suave: So, if we go over cuts occur with revenue increases. Does that mean the credit rating should go back up? And if so, how long before the republicans decry an AAA rating as suddenly bad?


1. The rating agencies will probably hold the fact that a deal was not cut against us. One of the reasons they downgraded the rating in the first place was because of political intransigence.

2. The rating doesn't really matter. No nation seriously thinks that the United States will default on its loans. There also aren't that many other games in town -- there's China, Germany and not too many other countries to safely borrow money from. Most Western European countries are in a far bigger mess than the US, such as Italy and Spain.
 
2012-12-24 10:35:00 AM  

thornhill: chico_suave: So, if we go over cuts occur with revenue increases. Does that mean the credit rating should go back up? And if so, how long before the republicans decry an AAA rating as suddenly bad?

1. The rating agencies will probably hold the fact that a deal was not cut against us. One of the reasons they downgraded the rating in the first place was because of political intransigence.

2. The rating doesn't really matter. No nation seriously thinks that the United States will default on its loans. There also aren't that many other games in town -- there's China, Germany and not too many other countries to safely loan money to borrow money from. Most Western European countries are in a far bigger mess than the US, such as Italy and Spain.


my bad.
 
2012-12-24 10:41:10 AM  
Fiscal Cliff?
Didn't he hang out with Revenue Norm down at Cheers?
 
2012-12-24 10:42:44 AM  
My complaint about the coverage of the 'fiscal cliff' is that no one is pointing out the hypocrisy of the former deficit scolds who now claim that this forced budget cutting (cutting defense, in particular) will be a disaster.

If you thought austerity was actually a good idea, you should  love the fiscal cliff.

If it turns out that you were just yelling 'austerity' as a justification for cutting benefits for poor and middle-class Americans, you were an asshole, and are now exposed as such.
 
2012-12-24 10:53:02 AM  

Flab: Too many journalists cover a non-story, or a story where there's little development, so the next logical step is to have journalists write stories about the journalists who cover the story.

Someone should write a book about passing off crap as news.


Pretty much what went through my mind as I read the first page of the article.

I didn't even bother with the second.
 
2012-12-24 10:56:19 AM  

Curious: 67 Beetle: Unfortunately, some form of Cliff-avoiding legislation will get passed.

one hopes not because it will prove beyond any doubt that Washington is all about posturing and the concerns of the rest of America don't matter.

keeping ANY of the Bush tax cuts is stupid if you are serious about reducing the debt and deficit. and the payroll tax "holiday" is another bad idea. let's keep money from going to SS all the while bemoaning how it's going broke.  WTF  yes we needed stimulus but it's time to look beyond that.


Agree. I think politicians on both sides are concerned that if we go off the Cliff, that increasing taxes and cutting spending will not be the end of the Republic. With more Americans with skin in the game, you might start to see a bit more accountability on Capitol Hill.
 
2012-12-24 11:14:56 AM  
PUNT the pundits!
 
2012-12-24 11:19:51 AM  

Mantour: [www.frumforum.com image 583x327]

/ Doesn't that pic make Krauthammer look like a calculated killer?


Also that is the most hilariously inept game of chess I have ever seen.
 
2012-12-24 11:31:01 AM  
"Republicans shoot selves in ass, Country pays the price"

story over.
 
2012-12-24 11:44:57 AM  
I'm a victim of this mess because my sales dropped when they started talking about the cliff in all the news.
 
2012-12-24 12:04:35 PM  
To me it looks like a media frenzy. Squabbling with no information tone presented. Venom from two groups who hate each other with the victims being the audience. It seems like using a million words when five will do IS the media.
 
2012-12-24 01:27:17 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: And even though the fiscal cliff is preoccupying Washington, that doesn't mean it is always engaging for the media. Important, sure, but is it really that interesting to talk about day in, day out?

How about talking about something else then, asshole?


Came here to say that.

and add on this little gem.

"I think the cliff separates the folks who want to be hard-core Washington and political reporters and those folks who simply want to be reporters who parachute in on the big story," Todd said.

Where are these "hard-core" reporters of which you speak? STFU Todd.

I want Muckraker just one will do.
 
2012-12-24 01:52:34 PM  
FTA: (about the fiscal cliff): '"It's the 'Hangover 2' of politics," says CNN contributor".

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!
 
2012-12-24 01:59:04 PM  

aaronx: My complaint about the coverage of the 'fiscal cliff' is that no one is pointing out the hypocrisy of the former deficit scolds who now claim that this forced budget cutting (cutting defense, in particular) will be a disaster.

If you thought austerity was actually a good idea, you should  love the fiscal cliff.

If it turns out that you were just yelling 'austerity' as a justification for cutting benefits for poor and middle-class Americans, you were an asshole, and are now exposed as such.


I came to say this, but you said it better than I was going to.

Only need to add: all the journalists and news orgs (Washington Post I'm looking at you) who say things like "the fiscal cliff is a debt crisis" need to be publicly castigated by anyone with a public microphone.
 
2012-12-24 02:16:47 PM  

Flab: Too many journalists cover a non-story, or a story where there's little development, so the next logical step is to have journalists write stories about the journalists who cover the story.

Someone should write a book about passing off crap as news.


Reporters writing about reporters? Say, maybe there's a story there!

with apologies to Doonsbury...
 
2012-12-24 02:16:56 PM  
Going over the 'fiscal cliff' seems so obviously like a good idea, reduce spending, and increase taxes. That's almost like we're actually trying to deal with the deficit. Obama's got the right idea, i don't know the full details of what he wants to pass. But it sounds like going over the fiscal cliff, with the exception of keeping tax cuts for everyone making less then 250K. So if the republicans go along with it, they've agreed to increase taxes on the rich, and all that. If the republicans don't agree, the tax increases kick in for everyone anyway, AND they get blamed for not working with democrates. This is total win-win.
 
2012-12-24 03:27:35 PM  
Good. If anyone deserves to go over a cliff, it's the media pundits.
 
2012-12-24 05:45:11 PM  
No matter what the government will tax more and do less.
 
2012-12-24 06:11:24 PM  
FTA - But the battle itself between Democrats and Republicans over the fiscal cliff "isn't particularly interesting" to cover, MSNBC's Steve Kornacki said. "All we really get to see is - mostly - empty public posturing," "The Cycle" co-host said.
media.salon.com

Empty public posturing? Sure. Also, how about empty public "news" reporting.

Welcome to day-to-day politics Kornacki.

These media fools are having a hissy fit because there is not enough political sleaze to drool over for the majority of the cable news broadcast cycle. After nearly a year of multiple storylines to parse a million ways, they are left with a single story, while important, at the same time does not produce a new juicy headline every 30 minutes.

Poor baby. Wah.
 
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