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(The Weekly Standard)   NBC News talking head David Gregory chides NRAs Wayne LaPierre for even considering the notion of having armed guards at schools. After the interview, he picked up his kids at their school...which has 11 on the security payroll   (weeklystandard.com) divider line 521
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2012-12-24 08:48:38 PM

Indubitably: Ha!


To money
 
2012-12-24 09:15:22 PM

moothemagiccow: VA Tech has its own police force, that didn't stop the guy that shot 20some people on its campus.


I'm not in the "spend a ton of money on armed guards" category, but that argument really bugs me. At least you got it right that it was a police department, not just "armed guards" like talking heads on tv have been saying.

Saying that Virginia Tech has a police department is like saying that Newton Connecticut, Littleton Colorado, etc all had police departments. The NRA isnt asking us to put police departments in cities. They're asking us to put guards in individual school buildings.
If VT had an armed guard at every entrance to every building on campus, that would be an accurate comparison to the NRAs cooky idea for wasting money in our public schools. But that's not what the VTPD is.
 
2012-12-24 10:39:24 PM

muck4doo: Let's put more cops everywhere. More cops =good. A cop for me and you and a dog named Boo.


You read this thread and felt that the libs were the ones calling for cops everywhere?
 
2012-12-24 10:43:21 PM
Yes.

Recruiting, training, equipping, and paying an army of nosepickers to stand around and intimidate the children all day all year in our 130,000 public and private schools while providing no more than random chance prevention or protection against anything sounds like a FANTASTIC way to reduce taxes and the deficit.

That does it, I'm voting Republican!
 
2012-12-24 10:50:11 PM

BuckTurgidson: Yes.

Recruiting, training, equipping, and paying an army of nosepickers to stand around and intimidate the children all day all year in our 130,000 public and private schools while providing no more than random chance prevention or protection against anything sounds like a FANTASTIC way to reduce taxes and the deficit.

That does it, I'm voting Republican!


You are miseducated.
 
2012-12-25 12:00:42 AM

bulldg4life: muck4doo: Let's put more cops everywhere. More cops =good. A cop for me and you and a dog named Boo.

You read this thread and felt that the libs were the ones calling for cops everywhere?


I read it as the far left think people shouldn't have the right to carry fire arms, and only government stooges should have them to protect their pissing pantie selves. The far right thinks the government should have armed citizens protecting everyone. Welcome to the great circle of derp.
 
2012-12-25 12:02:32 AM

muck4doo: I read it as the far left think people shouldn't have the right to carry fire arms, and only government stooges should have them to protect their pissing pantie selves.


If you saw that in this thread, I can only assume that you have had far too much eggnog today. That strawman must be massive.
 
2012-12-25 12:14:59 AM

bulldg4life: muck4doo: I read it as the far left think people shouldn't have the right to carry fire arms, and only government stooges should have them to protect their pissing pantie selves.

If you saw that in this thread, I can only assume that you have had far too much eggnog today. That strawman must be massive.


Could be. Merry Christmas. :)
 
2012-12-25 12:51:16 AM
Does he also argue against universal healthcare while his kids are provided healthcare by his employer?
 
2012-12-25 06:54:29 AM
Every time this comes up, the NRA and it's Grand-Fudd (Wayne LaPierre) frantically try to shift the discussion to some frivolous fabricated side issue, hoping to blunt the focus of their opponents.

I don't see that happening this time.
 
2012-12-25 08:47:20 AM

relcec: liam76: sorry, I kept missing a word for some reason. why is it wrong for other schools? too expensive?
and no one said anything was mandatory.

If you are calling on the fed to take action on something like this that is normally what it means.


that's not usually how government works, especially when the feds are entering ground occupied by the states. they offer a carrot and a stick. no mandate.


How many states opted out of NCLB?

Anything tied to federal funds is a defacto mandate.
 
2012-12-25 09:10:36 AM

olddinosaur: whatshisname: JungleBoogie: the ability to fast-track psychiatrically commit the potentially homicidal. That's an effective approach.

Isn't anyone with a gun "potentially homicidal"?

Anyone with a dick is equipped to commit rape, shouldn't we lock those up too?

(Or just register them)


You would have to put serial numbers on them first
 
2012-12-25 11:00:32 AM

ongbok: Actually under Virgina law he was able to buy guns and his records wouldn't have been sent to NICS.
Because Cho was not involuntarily committed to a mental health facility as an inpatient, he was still legally eligible to buy guns under Virginia law So there does need to be some type of federal standard regarding mental health and a mental health screening for gun purchases. Also there are many people who are mentally unstable who have haven't had a run in with the law so they are unknown that would be in NICS or have any record of their condition.


But from your own cite, above the cut quote, he was adjudicated as mentally defective: "Virginia Special Justice Paul Barnett certified in an order that Cho "presented an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness,"

So they should have reported that certification to NICS and he was a prohibited person.
 
2012-12-25 11:05:46 AM

Mrtraveler01: muck4doo: Wow. Looking at the threads from the last few days, it sure looks like the left has their "rights stripping boner" in full raping hard on.

/Yes. Let's let the government protect us.

Not as stupid as the "lets arm everyone" idiocy t hat the gun nuts seem to want.

I agree that having a police officer in schools is a good start. But it shouldn't be the only solution.


Mrtraveler01 try not to be afraid of everything, try to go one day without being a compete coward
 
2012-12-25 02:11:25 PM
 
2012-12-25 02:25:49 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If he's paying the tuition, he's paying for the armed guards.
The difference with LaPierre's proposal is that he's saying we need to have armed guards in every school, but is offering no solution to pay for said guards -- one newspaper estimates the cost for one guard per building in Pennsylvania to be up to $140,000,000 annually. Even if the guards were all volunteers who's paying for background checks, liability insurance, training, etc.?

I am *not* opposed to the concept of increased school security. I'd even pay higher property taxes to improve that security. But, here in PA there's a law that requires every school property tax hike above the rate of inflation to be approved via voter referendum. To date there have been 13 such votes, and to date exactly one has passed -- plus, with federal money running out and state-level budget cuts something like 20,000 teachers/support staff have already been fired.


They could do it easily for nearly no cost.

1. Pass a law to require that each state must issue a license to carry if the person can legally possess a firearm and passed a background check. Person getting permit pays the costs, just like now.
2. Repeal gun free school zones to allow people with a license to carry to be on the grounds.
3. Parents volunteer 1 day a month to hang around the school, no cost to the school

Bonus for the anti-gun folks, us pro gun folks will be the first target of the bad guys. To protect my kids, I don't mind having a target painted on me.
 
2012-12-25 02:40:02 PM
Glaring liberal hypocrisy from the light-loafered lib David Gregory. I am equally unsurprised and unimpressed.
 
2012-12-25 04:52:02 PM

tonguedepressor: snocone: So, the hypocracy and duplicity is alive and well in the Media.
This is my suprised face.

People, NONE of these talking heads really believe their own derp. They will Nanny you right into the pens and happily take their blood money from the New Orderlies.

/we can deport a few, start w/ Piers Morgan.

So none of these guys have their own opinions on the topics that make up their livelihood and lifelong career pursuit?

Gotcha.


You understand perfectly.
They say what they are paid to say. By those who pay to put them on the air.
Let me count the bodies of those who improvised,,,

And do show me Morgan's gun that "shoots 40 bullets a second".
 
2012-12-26 05:08:31 AM

mwfark: Glaring liberal hypocrisy from the light-loafered lib David Gregory. I am equally unsurprised and unimpressed.


"Light-loafered?"
 
2012-12-26 05:44:53 PM

thamike: mwfark: Glaring liberal hypocrisy from the light-loafered lib David Gregory. I am equally unsurprised and unimpressed.

"Light-loafered?"


You expect the trolls and shills to speak intelligently?
 
2012-12-26 07:04:44 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: thamike: mwfark: Glaring liberal hypocrisy from the light-loafered lib David Gregory. I am equally unsurprised and unimpressed.

"Light-loafered?"

You expect the trolls and shills to speak intelligently?


Shtrolling?
 
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