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(Al Jazeera)   Seven killed, many injured in apparent chemical weapons attack in Syria   (blogs.aljazeera.com) divider line 258
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2012-12-24 12:27:26 AM

Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.


On what? A civil war not enough?
 
2012-12-24 12:28:14 AM
What's so civil about war anyway?
 
2012-12-24 12:28:28 AM
Remember folks, truth is the first casualty of war.
 
2012-12-24 12:29:07 AM

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.


I did not know Syria was under Obamas jurisdiction.
 
2012-12-24 12:29:13 AM
The Mayans were off by TWO days...
 
2012-12-24 12:29:38 AM
Glass. Parking. Lot.

/Somebody had to.
 
2012-12-24 12:29:42 AM
Damn that bastard.
I hope they shove a bayonet up Assad' ass when they catch him, and I hope its the OKC-3s and not one of those old M7's.
 
2012-12-24 12:30:10 AM
As someone not getting chemically attacked, I have to ask how this affects me?
 
2012-12-24 12:30:39 AM
Come to Syria. It's a gas.
 
2012-12-24 12:31:31 AM

ItchyMcDoogle: I hope its not true and its just Al Jazeera trying to start crap. They have been wrong before. I dont want a war for Christmas!
But if its true then we gotta do what we gotta do. Chemical weapons are a big time no no


Only 7 dead sounds like the perfect false flag operation.

Syrian Rebel Checklist:
1. Find 7 people you don't like
2. Use chemical weapons on them
3. "ZOMG, the government used chemical weapons on us. They have already killed 7 innocent civilians, please help."
4. US steps in with boots on the ground to clear things up
5. ...
6. Profit
/adjusts foil hat
 
2012-12-24 12:31:46 AM
OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.
 
2012-12-24 12:33:07 AM
Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".
 
2012-12-24 12:33:33 AM
images.buddytv.com


We can't watch FOX because they own those chemical weapons plants in Syria!

 
2012-12-24 12:34:27 AM

fusillade762: Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".


Include the breathing difficulties and that sounds like something i like to call "A night with your mother"
 
2012-12-24 12:34:49 AM

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.


It's actually not a bad source- however it does have its biases and prone to mistakes just like any other new services.
 
2012-12-24 12:35:35 AM

NewportBarGuy: Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life.


Ego must trump reason for most of those Dictator-types. Off-hand, I can only think of one that wised up and fled his country ( Idi Amin ).
 
2012-12-24 12:35:40 AM

verbaltoxin: NewportBarGuy: verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.

Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.

Yep, I got to take a spin through the gas room myself, once upon a time. I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me. You don't even think about it. Then the snot, oh the snot. Everywhere.


I got lucky. I had a doctors appointment the day my company went through it so I missed the fun. However, when we got to the messhall every company in our rotation was there, and everyone reeked of that shiat. It would make your eyes water hours later. 30 years on it's still a vivid memory for me and I'm glad I was injured at the time so I didn't have to go through it. Hope everyone is safe in Syria or that it was just bullshiat to begin with.
 
2012-12-24 12:36:25 AM

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.


Just checked BBC and CNN, they got nothing.
But if it's true, the poopie has hit the fan now.
 
2012-12-24 12:37:13 AM

NewportBarGuy: Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.


Except people like that are such narcissists that they actually do believe they have a mandate from god to rule the masses no matter what, and they are perfectly justified to use any means necessary to stay in power.
 
2012-12-24 12:38:22 AM

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?



It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.
 
2012-12-24 12:38:27 AM

fusillade762: Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".


I'm calling it a "Sunday night".
 
2012-12-24 12:38:47 AM
I just wanted to say warboner.
 
2012-12-24 12:41:03 AM
Will Obama fly home?
Will the Senate return to the capital?
Will the House return to the capital?
This and more on Fox News tonight @ 11
 
2012-12-24 12:41:06 AM

Apos: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?


It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.


Except when the story involves Israel, then all bets are off.
 
2012-12-24 12:41:09 AM
Assad? More like Ass-ad, right folks?

Seriously though, if chemical weapons have been used, he's a dead man walking.
 
2012-12-24 12:42:50 AM
Al Jazeera cannot independently verify the accounts given by them.

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/poisonous-gas-sprayed-rebel-he l d-neighbourhood-homs-medics-there-say
 
2012-12-24 12:43:09 AM
I put Al-Jazeera English up there with the BBC. They do actual farking journalism, and cover important stories instead of iPads and celebrity nipple slips.

But blogs on any news site should be looked at with a high degree of skepticism, especially when reporting on the chaotic conditions in combat areas.
 
2012-12-24 12:43:32 AM
so whats the words from russia and china on this? Continued support of a regime that uses chemical weapons? This whole UN thing is turning into a big joke.
 
2012-12-24 12:44:57 AM
www.webstop.tv

Do they know it's Christmastime at all?
 
2012-12-24 12:45:03 AM
it is on...

merry christmas you mother farkers!!
 
2012-12-24 12:45:16 AM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRBONER!!!!!


/vegan
//chef
 
2012-12-24 12:46:29 AM

DicksWii: fusillade762: Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".

Include the breathing difficulties and that sounds like something i like to call "A night with your mother"


Dude, how many times do I have to tell you: don't let her be on top.
 
2012-12-24 12:46:29 AM

paulseta: Assad? More like Ass-ad, right folks?

Seriously though, if chemical weapons have been used, he's a dead man walking.


Funny how he doesn't know he's a dead man . . . yet.
Boxing day will be a closed coffin for his sorry ass.
 
2012-12-24 12:47:45 AM
Wasn't there something about a red line... do not cross.... something something?
 
2012-12-24 12:48:29 AM

base935: As someone not getting chemically attacked, I have to ask how this affects me?


[assuming this report is true]
Assuming you are American, your President has drawn a line in the sand - "No chemical weapons or we will fark your shiat up" Cue the airstrikes and pictures of dismembered kids.
If you're not American, but rather a citizen of a NATO country, you will be required to follow along in whatever supportive role Obama dictates for you. Much like the recent foolishness in Libya.
If you are Russian or Chinese, you can sit back and laugh at A) American ineffectiveness at stopping this, and B) American assholishness in bombing civilians because of this. Or both.
If none of the above, you may resume random farking.
 
2012-12-24 12:50:05 AM

DerekSD: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRBONER!!!!!


/vegan
//chef


Okay, this is a little bit off topic...but, I have to know:

Are you a chef who'll cook anything but just happens to be personally vegan?

Or, are you a chef who refrains from cooking anything that comes from an animal?
 
2012-12-24 12:50:11 AM
Wasn't there a video about 2 weeks ago on the same site with other suspiciously staged videos of chemical attacks?
 
2012-12-24 12:52:06 AM

verbaltoxin: NewportBarGuy: verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.

Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.

Yep, I got to take a spin through the gas room myself, once upon a time. I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me. You don't even think about it. Then the snot, oh the snot. Everywhere.


Yeah, that was a fun part of "Warrior Week" (yeah, I know the AF is a joke to the other services). I actually kinda lucked out, because I was coming down with a lung infection, probably a relapse of the bronchitis I'd had earlier in BMT that they only half-ass treated. I was having a hard time breathing enough to live while I had that gas-mask on, but after getting a good breath of CS and then getting back outside every mucous membrane in my respiratory system beat a hasty retreat for my nose and then out on the ground. Once I got my breath back I felt 100 times better than I did going in.
 
2012-12-24 12:52:26 AM
www.matthewtoschi.com
 
2012-12-24 12:55:40 AM
How many deaths have to happen before Syria bans this sort of behavior?
 
2012-12-24 12:56:28 AM

eraser8: DerekSD: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRBONER!!!!!


/vegan
//chef

Okay, this is a little bit off topic...but, I have to know:

Are you a chef who'll cook anything but just happens to be personally vegan?

Or, are you a chef who refrains from cooking anything that comes from an animal?


c: someone who wanders around and about youtube and is fond of nonsequiters that appeal to my f'ed up sense of humor.

/http://www.youtube.com/user/VeganBlackMetalChef
 
2012-12-24 12:58:05 AM
Chemical weapons don't kill people-people kill people...oh, wait.
 
2012-12-24 12:58:44 AM

Apos: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?


It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.


This is not actually being reported by the main Al Jazeera site. This article is on their blog page, and while the live bloggers they have are well vetted, there is no way for them to know what really is happening without better analysis. What they do know is some bad stuff got sprayed, some of the affected perished and others have been harmed. This is bad, but we have no way of knowing how bad it is, or who even released the toxin. So far it is just rumor unless the reporter actually witnessed the deployment.
I get better news on what is happening in the US from Al Jazeera than most of the media here.
 
2012-12-24 01:00:36 AM

DerekSD: c: someone who wanders around and about youtube and is fond of nonsequiters that appeal to my f'ed up sense of humor.


Dang.
 
2012-12-24 01:03:36 AM

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.


How dare he! He should be acting like a responsible President and clearing brush on his Texas play ranch instead!
 
2012-12-24 01:04:24 AM

OgreMagi: Apos: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?


It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.

Except when the story involves Israel, then all bets are off.


Right.  Then they're almost as bad as the American media.
 
2012-12-24 01:04:44 AM
The video in the linked article is an apparent fake.
 
2012-12-24 01:06:08 AM

Arumat: verbaltoxin: NewportBarGuy: verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.

Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.

Yep, I got to take a spin through the gas room myself, once upon a time. I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me. You don't even think about it. Then the snot, oh the snot. Everywhere.

Yeah, that was a fun part of "Warrior Week" (yeah, I know the AF is a joke to the other services). I actually kinda lucked out, because I was coming down with a lung infection, probably a relapse of the bronchitis I'd had earlier in BMT that they only half-ass treated. I was having a hard time breathing enough to live while I had that gas-mask on, but after getting a good breath of CS and then getting back outside every mucous membrane in my respiratory system beat a hasty retreat for my nose and then out on the ground. Once I got my breath back I felt 100 times better than I did going in.


And the sick thing is, CS gas isn't that bad. It's like the Casper the Friendly Ghost of chemical weapons. That's why they can use exposure to it as part of training.

I don't think chlorine, for example, would have helped your bronchitis as much.
 
2012-12-24 01:06:25 AM

draa: I got lucky. I had a doctors appointment the day my company went through it so I missed the fun. However, when we got to the messhall every company in our rotation was there, and everyone reeked of that shiat. It would make your eyes water hours later. 30 years on it's still a vivid memory for me and I'm glad I was injured at the time so I didn't have to go through it. Hope everyone is safe in Syria or that it was just bullshiat to begin with.


How the blue fark did you miss annual NBC training? Every martherfarking year - CS or CN.
 
2012-12-24 01:06:37 AM
Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar.

The government of Qatar supports the Syrian rebels.

That doesn't mean they're wrong, but there could be some urge to jump the gun here.
 
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