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2012-12-23 10:16:56 PM  
...here we go...?
 
2012-12-23 10:18:00 PM  
Ummmm... I thought what they had the most of was Sarin. It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

I'm hopeful they have not deployed them yet, if ever.
 
2012-12-23 10:21:58 PM  
It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.
 
2012-12-23 10:23:24 PM  

NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.


Not if you're ready for it.
 
2012-12-23 10:23:37 PM  

verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.


Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.
 
2012-12-23 10:26:14 PM  

crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.

Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.


Link

This link makes things more confusing. This site claims it was the rebels using it on Syrian troops.
 
2012-12-23 10:30:56 PM  

crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.

Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.


And the rebels have claimed to have suffered chemical attacks before.  It was proved false.
 
2012-12-23 10:31:11 PM  
If true, it is so farking on.
 
2012-12-23 10:31:33 PM  

verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.

Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.

Link

This link makes things more confusing. This site claims it was the rebels using it on Syrian troops.


Huh. "Killed within an hour" does not sound like sarin...well, it does, technically, but I thought sarin killed quite rapidly.

Sigh. You can never tell these days with reports such as these...
 
2012-12-23 10:31:48 PM  

verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.

Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.

Link

This link makes things more confusing. This site claims it was the rebels using it on Syrian troops.


Wow that's a lot of crazy.
 
2012-12-23 10:33:32 PM  

GAT_00: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.

Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.

And the rebels have claimed to have suffered chemical attacks before.  It was proved false.


Yeah, which was so stupid. Why the hell would they do something so obviously fake? Unless, the folks in charge aren't quite the highest wattage bulbs in the pack.
 
2012-12-23 10:34:54 PM  
Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

img822.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-23 10:35:33 PM  

GAT_00: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.

Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.

And the rebels have claimed to have suffered chemical attacks before.  It was proved false.


Denier.
 
2012-12-23 10:38:00 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.


Your warboner is showing.
 
2012-12-23 10:38:20 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: GAT_00: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.

Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.

And the rebels have claimed to have suffered chemical attacks before.  It was proved false.

Denier.


Can't tell if you're joking (well, 51% sure you are), but did you see the video?
 
2012-12-23 10:38:31 PM  

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.


Would you kindly shut the f*ck up.

doglover: NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

Not if you're ready for it.


It's a nerve agent. I doubt these people have MOPP 4
 
2012-12-23 10:39:17 PM  

verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.


That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.
 
2012-12-23 10:40:11 PM  

NewportBarGuy: webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

Would you kindly shut the f*ck up.

doglover: NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

Not if you're ready for it.

It's a nerve agent. I doubt these people have MOPP 4


Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.
 
2012-12-23 10:40:18 PM  

crypticsatellite: Can't tell if you're joking


He's just a troll.
 
2012-12-23 10:40:32 PM  
1-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2012-12-23 10:41:29 PM  

crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.

That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.


Yes, on condition: the next time you have sex, your partner has to shout my name.
 
2012-12-23 10:42:29 PM  

doglover: NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

Not if you're ready for it.


Although... My first thought what the sh*t is probably wicked old... I just wanted to check the Wiki...

"Sarin degrades after a period of several weeks to several months. The shelf life can be shortened by impurities in precursor materials. According to the [12]. "

If it's old sh*t, this very well could be.
 
2012-12-23 10:42:57 PM  

verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.

That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.

Yes, on condition: the next time you have sex, your partner has to shout my name.


"Verbaltoxin" or "Theodoric?"
 
2012-12-23 10:43:40 PM  

crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.

That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.

Yes, on condition: the next time you have sex, your partner has to shout my name.

"Verbaltoxin" or "Theodoric?"


The former.
 
2012-12-23 10:44:59 PM  
I hope this is propaganda.
 
2012-12-23 10:46:12 PM  

verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.

That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.

Yes, on condition: the next time you have sex, your partner has to shout my name.

"Verbaltoxin" or "Theodoric?"

The former.


My left hand will have to learn sign language, but OK!
 
2012-12-23 10:47:02 PM  

crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.

That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.

Yes, on condition: the next time you have sex, your partner has to shout my name.

"Verbaltoxin" or "Theodoric?"

The former.

My left hand will have to learn sign language, but OK!


The safest sex is with yourself. Who knows what you like better than you?
 
2012-12-23 10:47:55 PM  

verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.


Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.
 
2012-12-23 10:49:38 PM  

NewportBarGuy: verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.

Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.


Yep, I got to take a spin through the gas room myself, once upon a time. I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me. You don't even think about it. Then the snot, oh the snot. Everywhere.
 
2012-12-23 10:54:18 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-23 11:01:32 PM  

2wolves: I hope this is propaganda.


Me too.

The problem is that it's totally something believable. You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

I think we're about to see a full scale propaganda campaign in favor of intervening. We're going to see a lot more of these kind of accusations over the next few months.
 
2012-12-23 11:07:17 PM  

Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.


Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.

Biological weapons release... it's not going to need any help from the media. NATO and US leadership will assault without much question.
 
2012-12-23 11:14:17 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.

Biological weapons release... it's not going to need any help from the media. NATO and US leadership will assault without much question.


I hope so, but I question Obama's resolve.
 
2012-12-23 11:18:05 PM  

doglover: NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

Not if you're ready for it.


And not if it's a limited release to make sure it works.

s1.static.gotsmile.net
 
2012-12-23 11:20:11 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.

Biological weapons release... it's not going to need any help from the media. NATO and US leadership will assault without much question.


He's wealthy but resolute and so far hasn't backed down. I don't foresee him coming out alive even if he does refrain from chemical attacks. I think the US is building up their case for intervention. Stories like this are helpful even if untrue.
 
2012-12-23 11:21:12 PM  
Here's the story according to Fars News Agency
Terrorists attacked the army, has a lot more details too
 
2012-12-23 11:22:43 PM  

crypticsatellite: NewportBarGuy: Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.

Biological weapons release... it's not going to need any help from the media. NATO and US leadership will assault without much question.

I hope so, but I question Obama's resolve.


Obama has been incredibly aggressive at certain times. I'm not as concerned for his resolve as I am about the type of intervention that almost appears inevitable at this point...
 
2012-12-23 11:25:33 PM  

cretinbob: Here's the story according to Fars News Agency
Terrorists attacked the army, has a lot more details too


If FARS (Iranian Intelligence) is spinning this. I just reverse the attributions.
 
2012-12-23 11:25:53 PM  
Seven people have died in Homs after they inhaled a poisonous gas sprayed by government forces in a rebel-held neighbourhood

Sounds pretty Syrias
 
2012-12-23 11:26:06 PM  

cretinbob: Here's the story according to Fars News Agency
Terrorists attacked the army, has a lot more details too


Is the article equating the rebel network with terrorists?
 
2012-12-23 11:27:04 PM  

NewportBarGuy: cretinbob: Here's the story according to Fars News Agency
Terrorists attacked the army, has a lot more details too

If FARS (Iranian Intelligence) is spinning this. I just reverse the attributions.


Pretty good rule of thumb...
 
2012-12-23 11:36:21 PM  
If...IF this is true then Assad is about to experience the unleashing of hell upon his regime.
 
2012-12-24 12:14:54 AM  
"....the medics are saying it's something similar to Sarin gas...."

*closes eyes*


Oh no......
 
2012-12-24 12:17:13 AM  
I really hope this isn't true. Chemical weapons are so awful.

cretinbob: Here's the story according to Fars News Agency
Terrorists attacked the army, has a lot more details too


Oh yeah, remember when the embassy personnel decided to up and quit and take a 444 day vacation to see the Iranian sights? lol.
 
2012-12-24 12:23:03 AM  
images4.static-bluray.com

Christ, do I gotta do everything around here?
 
2012-12-24 12:23:13 AM  
I hope its not true and its just Al Jazeera trying to start crap. They have been wrong before. I dont want a war for Christmas!
But if its true then we gotta do what we gotta do. Chemical weapons are a big time no no
 
2012-12-24 12:23:41 AM  
Aljazeera.
Of course.
Right there at the top of the page is a link to this "special programme" An interview with renowned atheist Richard Dawkins on whether religion is a force for good or evil.
Obviously Aljazeera is a tool of the ebil atheists!
 
2012-12-24 12:23:52 AM  
What do you know? The World really did end in 2012 after all.
 
2012-12-24 12:26:11 AM  
Thank God no guns were involved or there would be hell to pay out of the media and the Obama Administration ...
 
2012-12-24 12:27:26 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.


On what? A civil war not enough?
 
2012-12-24 12:28:14 AM  
What's so civil about war anyway?
 
2012-12-24 12:28:28 AM  
Remember folks, truth is the first casualty of war.
 
2012-12-24 12:29:07 AM  

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.


I did not know Syria was under Obamas jurisdiction.
 
2012-12-24 12:29:13 AM  
The Mayans were off by TWO days...
 
2012-12-24 12:29:38 AM  
Glass. Parking. Lot.

/Somebody had to.
 
2012-12-24 12:29:42 AM  
Damn that bastard.
I hope they shove a bayonet up Assad' ass when they catch him, and I hope its the OKC-3s and not one of those old M7's.
 
2012-12-24 12:30:10 AM  
As someone not getting chemically attacked, I have to ask how this affects me?
 
2012-12-24 12:30:39 AM  
Come to Syria. It's a gas.
 
2012-12-24 12:31:31 AM  

ItchyMcDoogle: I hope its not true and its just Al Jazeera trying to start crap. They have been wrong before. I dont want a war for Christmas!
But if its true then we gotta do what we gotta do. Chemical weapons are a big time no no


Only 7 dead sounds like the perfect false flag operation.

Syrian Rebel Checklist:
1. Find 7 people you don't like
2. Use chemical weapons on them
3. "ZOMG, the government used chemical weapons on us. They have already killed 7 innocent civilians, please help."
4. US steps in with boots on the ground to clear things up
5. ...
6. Profit
/adjusts foil hat
 
2012-12-24 12:31:46 AM  
OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.
 
2012-12-24 12:33:07 AM  
Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".
 
2012-12-24 12:33:33 AM  
images.buddytv.com


We can't watch FOX because they own those chemical weapons plants in Syria!

 
2012-12-24 12:34:27 AM  

fusillade762: Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".


Include the breathing difficulties and that sounds like something i like to call "A night with your mother"
 
2012-12-24 12:34:49 AM  

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.


It's actually not a bad source- however it does have its biases and prone to mistakes just like any other new services.
 
2012-12-24 12:35:35 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life.


Ego must trump reason for most of those Dictator-types. Off-hand, I can only think of one that wised up and fled his country ( Idi Amin ).
 
2012-12-24 12:35:40 AM  

verbaltoxin: NewportBarGuy: verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.

Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.

Yep, I got to take a spin through the gas room myself, once upon a time. I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me. You don't even think about it. Then the snot, oh the snot. Everywhere.


I got lucky. I had a doctors appointment the day my company went through it so I missed the fun. However, when we got to the messhall every company in our rotation was there, and everyone reeked of that shiat. It would make your eyes water hours later. 30 years on it's still a vivid memory for me and I'm glad I was injured at the time so I didn't have to go through it. Hope everyone is safe in Syria or that it was just bullshiat to begin with.
 
2012-12-24 12:36:25 AM  

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.


Just checked BBC and CNN, they got nothing.
But if it's true, the poopie has hit the fan now.
 
2012-12-24 12:37:13 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.


Except people like that are such narcissists that they actually do believe they have a mandate from god to rule the masses no matter what, and they are perfectly justified to use any means necessary to stay in power.
 
2012-12-24 12:38:22 AM  

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?



It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.
 
2012-12-24 12:38:27 AM  

fusillade762: Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".


I'm calling it a "Sunday night".
 
2012-12-24 12:38:47 AM  
I just wanted to say warboner.
 
2012-12-24 12:41:03 AM  
Will Obama fly home?
Will the Senate return to the capital?
Will the House return to the capital?
This and more on Fox News tonight @ 11
 
2012-12-24 12:41:06 AM  

Apos: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?


It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.


Except when the story involves Israel, then all bets are off.
 
2012-12-24 12:41:09 AM  
Assad? More like Ass-ad, right folks?

Seriously though, if chemical weapons have been used, he's a dead man walking.
 
2012-12-24 12:42:50 AM  
Al Jazeera cannot independently verify the accounts given by them.

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/syria/poisonous-gas-sprayed-rebel-he l d-neighbourhood-homs-medics-there-say
 
2012-12-24 12:43:09 AM  
I put Al-Jazeera English up there with the BBC. They do actual farking journalism, and cover important stories instead of iPads and celebrity nipple slips.

But blogs on any news site should be looked at with a high degree of skepticism, especially when reporting on the chaotic conditions in combat areas.
 
2012-12-24 12:43:32 AM  
so whats the words from russia and china on this? Continued support of a regime that uses chemical weapons? This whole UN thing is turning into a big joke.
 
2012-12-24 12:44:57 AM  
www.webstop.tv

Do they know it's Christmastime at all?
 
2012-12-24 12:45:03 AM  
it is on...

merry christmas you mother farkers!!
 
2012-12-24 12:45:16 AM  
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRBONER!!!!!


/vegan
//chef
 
2012-12-24 12:46:29 AM  

DicksWii: fusillade762: Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".

Include the breathing difficulties and that sounds like something i like to call "A night with your mother"


Dude, how many times do I have to tell you: don't let her be on top.
 
2012-12-24 12:46:29 AM  

paulseta: Assad? More like Ass-ad, right folks?

Seriously though, if chemical weapons have been used, he's a dead man walking.


Funny how he doesn't know he's a dead man . . . yet.
Boxing day will be a closed coffin for his sorry ass.
 
2012-12-24 12:47:45 AM  
Wasn't there something about a red line... do not cross.... something something?
 
2012-12-24 12:48:29 AM  

base935: As someone not getting chemically attacked, I have to ask how this affects me?


[assuming this report is true]
Assuming you are American, your President has drawn a line in the sand - "No chemical weapons or we will fark your shiat up" Cue the airstrikes and pictures of dismembered kids.
If you're not American, but rather a citizen of a NATO country, you will be required to follow along in whatever supportive role Obama dictates for you. Much like the recent foolishness in Libya.
If you are Russian or Chinese, you can sit back and laugh at A) American ineffectiveness at stopping this, and B) American assholishness in bombing civilians because of this. Or both.
If none of the above, you may resume random farking.
 
2012-12-24 12:50:05 AM  

DerekSD: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRBONER!!!!!


/vegan
//chef


Okay, this is a little bit off topic...but, I have to know:

Are you a chef who'll cook anything but just happens to be personally vegan?

Or, are you a chef who refrains from cooking anything that comes from an animal?
 
2012-12-24 12:50:11 AM  
Wasn't there a video about 2 weeks ago on the same site with other suspiciously staged videos of chemical attacks?
 
2012-12-24 12:52:06 AM  

verbaltoxin: NewportBarGuy: verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.

Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.

Yep, I got to take a spin through the gas room myself, once upon a time. I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me. You don't even think about it. Then the snot, oh the snot. Everywhere.


Yeah, that was a fun part of "Warrior Week" (yeah, I know the AF is a joke to the other services). I actually kinda lucked out, because I was coming down with a lung infection, probably a relapse of the bronchitis I'd had earlier in BMT that they only half-ass treated. I was having a hard time breathing enough to live while I had that gas-mask on, but after getting a good breath of CS and then getting back outside every mucous membrane in my respiratory system beat a hasty retreat for my nose and then out on the ground. Once I got my breath back I felt 100 times better than I did going in.
 
2012-12-24 12:52:26 AM  
www.matthewtoschi.com
 
2012-12-24 12:55:40 AM  
How many deaths have to happen before Syria bans this sort of behavior?
 
2012-12-24 12:56:28 AM  

eraser8: DerekSD: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRBONER!!!!!


/vegan
//chef

Okay, this is a little bit off topic...but, I have to know:

Are you a chef who'll cook anything but just happens to be personally vegan?

Or, are you a chef who refrains from cooking anything that comes from an animal?


c: someone who wanders around and about youtube and is fond of nonsequiters that appeal to my f'ed up sense of humor.

/http://www.youtube.com/user/VeganBlackMetalChef
 
2012-12-24 12:58:05 AM  
Chemical weapons don't kill people-people kill people...oh, wait.
 
2012-12-24 12:58:44 AM  

Apos: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?


It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.


This is not actually being reported by the main Al Jazeera site. This article is on their blog page, and while the live bloggers they have are well vetted, there is no way for them to know what really is happening without better analysis. What they do know is some bad stuff got sprayed, some of the affected perished and others have been harmed. This is bad, but we have no way of knowing how bad it is, or who even released the toxin. So far it is just rumor unless the reporter actually witnessed the deployment.
I get better news on what is happening in the US from Al Jazeera than most of the media here.
 
2012-12-24 01:00:36 AM  

DerekSD: c: someone who wanders around and about youtube and is fond of nonsequiters that appeal to my f'ed up sense of humor.


Dang.
 
2012-12-24 01:03:36 AM  

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.


How dare he! He should be acting like a responsible President and clearing brush on his Texas play ranch instead!
 
2012-12-24 01:04:24 AM  

OgreMagi: Apos: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?


It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.

Except when the story involves Israel, then all bets are off.


Right.  Then they're almost as bad as the American media.
 
2012-12-24 01:04:44 AM  
The video in the linked article is an apparent fake.
 
2012-12-24 01:06:08 AM  

Arumat: verbaltoxin: NewportBarGuy: verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.

Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.

Yep, I got to take a spin through the gas room myself, once upon a time. I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me. You don't even think about it. Then the snot, oh the snot. Everywhere.

Yeah, that was a fun part of "Warrior Week" (yeah, I know the AF is a joke to the other services). I actually kinda lucked out, because I was coming down with a lung infection, probably a relapse of the bronchitis I'd had earlier in BMT that they only half-ass treated. I was having a hard time breathing enough to live while I had that gas-mask on, but after getting a good breath of CS and then getting back outside every mucous membrane in my respiratory system beat a hasty retreat for my nose and then out on the ground. Once I got my breath back I felt 100 times better than I did going in.


And the sick thing is, CS gas isn't that bad. It's like the Casper the Friendly Ghost of chemical weapons. That's why they can use exposure to it as part of training.

I don't think chlorine, for example, would have helped your bronchitis as much.
 
2012-12-24 01:06:25 AM  

draa: I got lucky. I had a doctors appointment the day my company went through it so I missed the fun. However, when we got to the messhall every company in our rotation was there, and everyone reeked of that shiat. It would make your eyes water hours later. 30 years on it's still a vivid memory for me and I'm glad I was injured at the time so I didn't have to go through it. Hope everyone is safe in Syria or that it was just bullshiat to begin with.


How the blue fark did you miss annual NBC training? Every martherfarking year - CS or CN.
 
2012-12-24 01:06:37 AM  
Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar.

The government of Qatar supports the Syrian rebels.

That doesn't mean they're wrong, but there could be some urge to jump the gun here.
 
2012-12-24 01:06:44 AM  
Hospital videos are coming into Youtube. Don't take it as definitive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLl0S85Krs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXbhcHvbJTg
 
2012-12-24 01:06:46 AM  

Lighting: Apos: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?


It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.

This is not actually being reported by the main Al Jazeera site. This article is on their blog page, and while the live bloggers they have are well vetted, there is no way for them to know what really is happening without better analysis. What they do know is some bad stuff got sprayed, some of the affected perished and others have been harmed. This is bad, but we have no way of knowing how bad it is, or who even released the toxin. So far it is just rumor unless the reporter actually witnessed the deployment.
I get better news on what is happening in the US from Al Jazeera than most of the media here.


Duly noted-and you're quite right. I'll check on the main website later.
 
2012-12-24 01:07:56 AM  

eraser8: DerekSD: c: someone who wanders around and about youtube and is fond of nonsequiters that appeal to my f'ed up sense of humor.

Dang.


well, i have cooked a few meals using vegan black metal chef's recipes and they've been pretty good.

not as good as his youtube channel, though.

i was flipping through some of his videos and clicking back here to fark. i saw 'warboner' and thought a split-second about vbmc's tongue-in-cheek style and that post was born.
 
2012-12-24 01:09:07 AM  

crypticsatellite: ...here we go...?


glass parking lot
it is the only way to be sure
 
2012-12-24 01:10:26 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Ummmm... I thought what they had the most of was Sarin. It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

I'm hopeful they have not deployed them yet, if ever.


Maybe their production or delivery systems are bad.

verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: It seems that only Al Jazeera is reporting this at the moment.

Yeah, though, usually Al Jazeera is pretty good about such things...of course, I don't know if they have the same standards for blogs on their domain.

Link

This link makes things more confusing. This site claims it was the rebels using it on Syrian troops.


No surprise given the site.

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.


So long as it's not in any way related to Israel or the Jews it's usually pretty good. Even when it is related to one or both of those it's usually just extremely slanted reporting rather than outright lies. (For example, a documentary about reporters being attacked. They focused mostly on the Occupied Territories even though most of the deaths were elsewhere. Also, on a quick listen you would think Israel was the main culprit but if you listened carefully you realized the reporters knew they had to be very careful not to look like a threat when dealing with IDF troops {look at a professional camera with mike head-on--it looks rather like you're looking down the barrel of an RPG!} but that they didn't fear a deliberate attack, only mistaken identity. They actually feared deliberate attacks from the Palestinians, though.)

UNC_Samurai: I put Al-Jazeera English up there with the BBC. They do actual farking journalism, and cover important stories instead of iPads and celebrity nipple slips.

But blogs on any news site should be looked at with a high degree of skepticism, especially when reporting on the chaotic conditions in combat areas.


Yeah, wartime reporting usually leaves a *LOT* to be desired. There's a reason for the term "fog of war"!
 
2012-12-24 01:12:53 AM  

ultraholland: I just wanted to say warboner.


The warboner is like a dowsing rod. But instead of water, it leads one to battle.
 
2012-12-24 01:13:14 AM  

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacationon the ranch in Texas.

[img822.imageshack.us image 500x709]


"It doesn't matter if I'm in Texas. The White House is wherever I am."
 
2012-12-24 01:13:40 AM  
According to NPR, Syria has sarin and mustard gas, and may have VX. Mustard gas is a very old agent, my grandfather was gassed with it in the First World War, and survived.
 
2012-12-24 01:13:49 AM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: base935: As someone not getting chemically attacked, I have to ask how this affects me?

[assuming this report is true]
Assuming you are American, your President has drawn a line in the sand - "No chemical weapons or we will fark your shiat up" Cue the airstrikes and pictures of dismembered kids.
If you're not American, but rather a citizen of a NATO country, you will be required to follow along in whatever supportive role Obama dictates for you. Much like the recent foolishness in Libya.
If you are Russian or Chinese, you can sit back and laugh at A) American ineffectiveness at stopping this, and B) American assholishness in bombing civilians because of this. Or both.
If none of the above, you may resume random farking.


Russia had begun distancing themselves from Syria. Not sure about China.

Do not underestimate US air strikes to do the job
 
2012-12-24 01:16:45 AM  
Well f*ck.
 
2012-12-24 01:17:36 AM  

Triumph: Hospital videos are coming into Youtube. Don't take it as definitive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLl0S85Krs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXbhcHvbJTg



I'm skeptical, if only for the reason that those videos struck me as if I was watching a WWE vignette circa 1998-2003.
 
2012-12-24 01:17:41 AM  
How DARE a country use chemical weapons! No one is allowed to...oh, wait...
static.guim.co.uk

Well, how DARE anyone ELSE use them!
 
2012-12-24 01:18:36 AM  

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.


From what I've gathered in the "who to trust" game, one should know that:

Al Jazeera treats anything having to do with Quatar with kidgloves,
RT is not a reliable source on what's going on within and possibly pertaining to Russia
- these are supposedly relatively narrow biases

The American media will not honestly report on anything that the .01% find threatening.
Fox News is not reliable about anything pertaining to reality.
- these are very broad biases and relatively difficult to account for
 
2012-12-24 01:19:02 AM  

Triumph: Hospital videos are coming into Youtube. Don't take it as definitive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzLl0S85Krs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXbhcHvbJTg


Holy Fark.
 
2012-12-24 01:23:26 AM  
Still no verification from CNN, but apparently, the government sent the rebels a holiday arrangement of Scuds on the 21st. Any millitary farkers know how long it takes to swap out the conventional warhead on a Scud for a chemical payload?
 
2012-12-24 01:23:27 AM  

doglover: Arumat: verbaltoxin: NewportBarGuy: verbaltoxin: Entertaining the notion that this is legit, it could've been a small-scale attack or a botched deployment, or some other random cause for low casualties. Very little has come out so far about this. I"m hesitant to make a call on anything at this point.

Or, weather patterns. Could be anything. If it's an actual use of the weapon... I say we take out all known sites of Assad leadership. Keep it like Libya. Take out the hard targets and let the various ground forces figure out the rest.

No leadership structure on this planet should be allowed to get away with a chemical attack. Just a brief pass through the CS room was enough to make me see just how f*cked up the entire notion of chemical warfare is.

Yep, I got to take a spin through the gas room myself, once upon a time. I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me. You don't even think about it. Then the snot, oh the snot. Everywhere.

Yeah, that was a fun part of "Warrior Week" (yeah, I know the AF is a joke to the other services). I actually kinda lucked out, because I was coming down with a lung infection, probably a relapse of the bronchitis I'd had earlier in BMT that they only half-ass treated. I was having a hard time breathing enough to live while I had that gas-mask on, but after getting a good breath of CS and then getting back outside every mucous membrane in my respiratory system beat a hasty retreat for my nose and then out on the ground. Once I got my breath back I felt 100 times better than I did going in.

And the sick thing is, CS gas isn't that bad. It's like the Casper the Friendly Ghost of chemical weapons. That's why they can use exposure to it as part of training.

I don't think chlorine, for example, would have helped your bronchitis as much.


Yeah, I know. CS is an irritant unless you absolutely can't get away from it, which I guess could lead to suffocation. I know it's nowhere near as dangerous as blister or nerve agents, which is why we can get away with routinely exposing our own people to it. I just saw an opportunity for what I hoped would be an interesting /csb. Personally, I'd rather chemical weapons never advanced beyond "nobody can breathe in this area for a couple hours" territory.
 
2012-12-24 01:24:40 AM  
And here we are again with the usual arab dilemma: what will it be ? the murderous secular dictator or the islamic fundamentalist nutjobs ?
Maybe they can come up with something new for a change, like in Egypt: the fundamentalist islamic dictator.
 
2012-12-24 01:26:17 AM  
Either there are a lot more than 7 people dead, or this wasn't a chemical attack.
 
2012-12-24 01:28:11 AM  

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

[img822.imageshack.us image 500x709]


webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

[img822.imageshack.us image 500x709]


Your water carrying for K-street lobbyists is duly noted and won't go without reward.

I'm sure you will offer an apology should this turn out to be nothing, right? Yeah, of course you will. Thanks
 
2012-12-24 01:28:21 AM  
DULCE ET DECORUM EST

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.
Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! - An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .

Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen
8 October 1917
 
2012-12-24 01:28:41 AM  
has any one pointed out that these are the chemical weapons that were supposed to be in iraq, some 10 years ago?
 
2012-12-24 01:31:03 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: has any one pointed out that these are the chemical weapons that were supposed to be in iraq, some 10 years ago?


Any possible sarin from Iraq 10 years ago would be borderline useless due to decay.... which could explain why only 7 people died (if this story is true.)

Hmm.....
 
2012-12-24 01:31:28 AM  

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.


Yeah they are one of the few reliable and believe it or not neutral. I followed the Libya and Egypt uprisings and they reported the good, bad and ugly. Surprisingly they don't lean one way or the other. If the report is false, they will correct it but normally they get it right the first time.
 
2012-12-24 01:32:08 AM  

crypticsatellite: NewportBarGuy: Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.

Biological weapons release... it's not going to need any help from the media. NATO and US leadership will assault without much question.

I hope so, but I question Obama's resolve.


Really?
lisawallerrogers.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-24 01:32:13 AM  

webthing01: Don't bother the president


That would be the President who ordered the hit on bin Laden. Fark you. Ignored.
 
2012-12-24 01:33:31 AM  

Arumat: Personally, I'd rather chemical weapons never advanced beyond "nobody can breathe in this area for a couple hours" territory.


If you want to get all technical, chemical weapons automatically advance beyond that level. It's a simple matter of chemistry. Some chemicals out there just ain't safe. Which is sad.

The thing the world needs is honor. Much better to die than lose honor. It's the check and balance to absolute freedom.

Nerve gas is scary; blister agents, too. But you can just release any old dangerous chemical, really, and it would be a bad day regardless. Heck, even lobbing a mercury thermometer at someone is kind of a dick move.
 
2012-12-24 01:33:34 AM  
i787.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-24 01:33:34 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Still no verification from CNN, but apparently, the government sent the rebels a holiday arrangement of Scuds on the 21st. Any millitary farkers know how long it takes to swap out the conventional warhead on a Scud for a chemical payload?


as a former AMMO troop, not very long at all.
 
2012-12-24 01:34:10 AM  

verbaltoxin: I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me.


Why is that a bad thing to do? (No experience with whatever you're talking about. Just curious. Thanks!)
 
2012-12-24 01:35:57 AM  

StopLurkListen: verbaltoxin: I almost cupped my hand to my face, and the instructors about sh*t a brick and stopped me.

Why is that a bad thing to do? (No experience with whatever you're talking about. Just curious. Thanks!)


Rubbing droplets of CS onto your face tends to concentrate it more. Not to mention it burns like an SOB.
 
2012-12-24 01:36:32 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Do not underestimate US air strikes to do the job


I don't. But if this is true, the US will be on the hook for not preventing it.
 
2012-12-24 01:36:54 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: [www.webstop.tv image 480x360]

Do they know it's Christmastime at all?


"Tonight thank God it's them, instead of you"
 
2012-12-24 01:37:42 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: Either there are a lot more than 7 people dead, or this wasn't a chemical attack.


i'm really hoping this wasn't a chemical attack.
 
2012-12-24 01:38:59 AM  

croesius: How DARE a country use chemical weapons! No one is allowed to...oh, wait...
[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Well, how DARE anyone ELSE use them!


Uhh, That's WP. WP is no more a chemical weapon than gunpowder. At least get your story straight.
 
2012-12-24 01:39:22 AM  
Didn't Russia just deliver new mobile SAM launchers and the personel to help operate them?

Probably will be a true "no fly zone" if this goes down.

proxy wars! woo!

Also, a fantastic war tard post, just in time!

Link
 
2012-12-24 01:42:49 AM  

doglover: NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

Not if you're ready for it.


Or if they were incompetent in it's use.

Aum Shinrikyo killed 13 using it against a crowded subway system.
 
2012-12-24 01:43:17 AM  
RoyFokker'sGhost: Still no verification from CNN, but apparently, the government sent the rebels a holiday arrangement of Scuds on the 21st. Any millitary farkers know how long it takes to swap out the conventional warhead on a Scud for a chemical payload?

as a former AMMO troop, not very long at all.

As a former WPNS troop, I agree. Any competent crew could repurpose them very quickly. Assuming the new payload was available.
 
2012-12-24 01:43:58 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

I did not know Syria was under Obamas jurisdiction.


Obama, AIPAC, what's the difference?
 
2012-12-24 01:44:32 AM  

Weaver95: shower_in_my_socks: Either there are a lot more than 7 people dead, or this wasn't a chemical attack.

i'm really hoping this wasn't a chemical attack.


The articles make it seem like it was. But it wasn't an artillery shell or aerial bomb that dispersed it. This looks like someone throwing a glass bottle at some troops.

As for the number killed; the Sarin attacks on the Tokyo Subway only killed 13 and that's with unprepared people in a small enclosed area. The stuff's deadly in sufficient density. The problem is you have to use a lot in an aerial blast for max effect.

This whole thing screams rebel idiots. And they scare me far worse than Assad does.
 
2012-12-24 01:45:35 AM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Didn't Russia just deliver new mobile SAM launchers and the personel to help operate them?

Probably will be a true "no fly zone" if this goes down.

proxy wars! woo!

Also, a fantastic war tard post, just in time!

Link


Russia is not giving up a Med port.
 
2012-12-24 01:45:40 AM  

Arnprior Joe: doglover: NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

Not if you're ready for it.

Or if they were incompetent in it's use.

Aum Shinrikyo killed 13 using it against a crowded subway system.


Y'know we just started getting garbage cans back on the subway since then?
 
2012-12-24 01:47:03 AM  
Sarin is incredibly stable as a stored chemical agent. However, it is frequently kept in a precursor state because of it's incredible lethality. The mixing of the agents and subsequent reaction is rapid enough to be performed as the warhead is being launched (or as a warm up state for when a weapon is being deployed outside of a missile).

The symptoms don't sound like sarin though. People don't typically report relaxed muscles with sarin patients. The muscle cramps, rigidity and jerkiness frequently look like seizures.
'
 
2012-12-24 01:50:10 AM  

Insatiable Jesus: Russia is not giving up a Med port.


Firing on NATO aircraft is a sure way to lose it.
 
2012-12-24 01:52:13 AM  

MadMattressMack: This whole thing screams rebel idiots. And they scare me far worse than Assad does.


The propaganda flip side to this is an article I read a couple days ago that in the Rebel-held areas of Aleppo, makeshift police squads were already trying to stop women from driving and forcing people to pray. Truth is a scarce commodity in Syria these days, so mostly you're stuck with what you choose to believe.
 
2012-12-24 01:52:42 AM  
I don't see this on other news sites yet.
Anyone have another source?
 
2012-12-24 01:52:47 AM  

NarrMaster: What_Would_Jimi_Do: has any one pointed out that these are the chemical weapons that were supposed to be in iraq, some 10 years ago?

Any possible sarin from Iraq 10 years ago would be borderline useless due to decay.... which could explain why only 7 people died (if this story is true.)

Hmm.....


Interesting since I recall some recruits at Parris Island ran into a patch of mustard gas a while back, it was said it was used over 50 years ago - whether it decays or not that fast is the question of how powerful it is.

In all likeliness this was in fact a chemical attack. due to the short life span and specifics which it needs to be deployed, I dont think the Syrians are capable of delivering mass amounts of it. Its been reported a half dozen to a dozen scud missiles have been
fired in the last few days, I wonder if this isn't the delivery method of this, if not airforce bombs. I know for one thing the Syrians lack any Airburst bombs, otherwise the death toll would be much higher then 7.

Then again, its been reported more then once that the Syrians have "delivered" chemical attacks, none have been proven (or can they be?)
 
2012-12-24 01:56:03 AM  
The history of religion is the history of the State
Incestuous exploiters of a catalogue of hate.
The man of peace was over-run by armies of the "Lord"
Who signed their names to any war
and sang to praise the sword.

/all 3 Abrahamic use the term lord.

if all Abrahamic religions would join forces, they might be able to take over the world.

/i said too much
 
2012-12-24 01:59:18 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: The history of religion is the history of the State
Incestuous exploiters of a catalogue of hate.
The man of peace was over-run by armies of the "Lord"
Who signed their names to any war
and sang to praise the sword.

/all 3 Abrahamic use the term lord.

if all Abrahamic religions would join forces, they might be able to take over the world.

/i said too much


Stop posting while drunk.
 
2012-12-24 02:00:50 AM  
Syria's had its own stockpiles of chemical weapons for years. We only cared that Iraq had them because they used them in the 80s and 90s and wanted a reason to invade
In 2001 the CIA reported that:

Syria sought CW-related precursors and expertise from foreign sources during the reporting period. Damascus already has a stockpile of the nerve agent sarin, and it would appear that Syria is trying to develop more toxic and persistent nerve agents. Syria remains dependent on foreign sources for key elements of its CW program, including precursor chemicals and key production equipment. It is highly probable that Syria also is developing an offensive BW capability.

In early 2002 Syria sought chemical weapons-related precursors from various countries. Damascus already held a stockpile of the nerve agent sarin, but apparently was trying to develop more toxic and persistent nerve agents. Syria remained dependent on foreign sources for key elements of its CW program, including precursor chemicals and key production equipment.

Syria is a major regional producer of phosphates that could conceivably be used for WMD. The country produces 2 million tons of phosphate per year and has an estimated reserve of around 2 billion tons. In October 2002 it was announced that a major "super" phosphate plant was to be constructed near Palmyra with a partnership between Russia and the state-owned General Company for Phosphate and Mines. A similar project is underway with the Indian firm, Dharmasi Morarji Chimicals Ltd.
 
2012-12-24 02:02:08 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: /all 3 Abrahamic use the term lord.


They also capitalize it.
 
2012-12-24 02:03:52 AM  

base935: As someone not getting chemically attacked, I have to ask how this affects me?


John Donne. Meditation XVII
 
2012-12-24 02:05:26 AM  

Insatiable Jesus: White_Scarf_Syndrome: Didn't Russia just deliver new mobile SAM launchers and the personel to help operate them?

Probably will be a true "no fly zone" if this goes down.

proxy wars! woo!

Also, a fantastic war tard post, just in time!

Link

Russia is not giving up a Med port.


I don't think we're gonna push on Russia too hard here. They can make things very difficult for us simply by closing the gas pipelines into W. Europe.
 
2012-12-24 02:06:30 AM  
as i said all along the aztecs were right.
 
2012-12-24 02:08:21 AM  
Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

So: either chemical weapons, or too much E at the rave?
 
2012-12-24 02:13:08 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Come to Syria. It's a gas.


Come to Lebanon, come stay with friends.

/obscure?
 
2012-12-24 02:14:33 AM  

Bontesla: Is the article equating the rebel network with terrorists?


One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. George Washington was a terrorist leader.

Considering the source, yeah, they are going to be called terrorists.
 
2012-12-24 02:15:33 AM  

Triumph: MadMattressMack: This whole thing screams rebel idiots. And they scare me far worse than Assad does.

The propaganda flip side to this is an article I read a couple days ago that in the Rebel-held areas of Aleppo, makeshift police squads were already trying to stop women from driving and forcing people to pray. Truth is a scarce commodity in Syria these days, so mostly you're stuck with what you choose to believe.


I believe it is hell there. As in both sides are bad. It's the WWII troops of eastern front Russia meets Japanese troops who invaded China. No matter who wins in this, the world loses.

We lost out when we didn't step up at the beginning and the rebels turned to ultra conservative Muslims since they had guns, money, fighters, training, and will. Now they're winning the battles and don't really care about the rulers in exile. Especially when the rulers are telling them they shouldn't be doing things like executing prisoners. When the rulers in exile return I wonder just how much leverage they'll have over these guys who are patrolling the towns.

Assad is all over the news on what he's doing and I don't think it would be much of a stretch to label him a bad guy.

Alas, I don't think there's a dog in this race that I like.
 
2012-12-24 02:21:21 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-24 02:33:01 AM  
Nuke the war criminal.
 
2012-12-24 02:43:32 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Ummmm... I thought what they had the most of was Sarin. It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

I'm hopeful they have not deployed them yet, if ever.


You're assuming proper mixing and deployment of the weapon.
 
2012-12-24 03:00:08 AM  

Zyme: Nuke the war criminal.


Yeah. That totally won't kill anyone but Assad.
 
2012-12-24 03:01:21 AM  
Yup, we're farked.
 
2012-12-24 03:01:34 AM  

2wolves: I hope this is propaganda.


Wouldn't surprise me, since the article lists "activists" as its source.
 
2012-12-24 03:03:26 AM  

cretinbob: George Washington was a terrorist leader.


and decided he wouldn't be king. he was an idiot.
 
2012-12-24 03:04:59 AM  

crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.

That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.

Yes, on condition: the next time you have sex, your partner has to shout my name.

"Verbaltoxin" or "Theodoric?"

The former.

My left hand will have to learn sign language, but OK!


Keyboard. Need a new one now. Thanks.
 
2012-12-24 03:05:29 AM  

fusillade762: Side effects reported include nausea, relaxed muscles, blurred vision, and breathing difficulties.

Aside from the breathing difficulties that sounds like something I like to call "Saturday night".


While it may or may not be a chemical weapon, it is most certainly NOT Sarin. Sarin's effects are:

Initial symptoms following exposure to sarin are a runny nose, tightness in the chest and constriction of the pupils. Soon after, the victim has difficulty breathing and experiences nausea and drooling. As the victim continues to lose control of bodily functions, the victim vomits, defecates and urinates. This phase is followed by twitching and jerking. Ultimately, the victim becomes comatose and suffocates in a series of convulsive spasms.

The Aum Shinrikyio attack in the Tokyo subway, using an "impure" form of Sarin, and certainly an inefficient method of deployment, resulted in 13 deaths and over 6,000 injuries; of those, at least 500 were considered serious (mostly breathing and vision difficulties). So while this could well be a gas or chemical attack of some kind, the chances of it being Sarin are slim to none based on the symptoms and apparent dead and injured. It doesn't even, at this point, sound like a nerve agent.
 
2012-12-24 03:08:27 AM  
I can't even imagine how hellish it must be over there. Even if the gas attack hasn't happened, it just seems awful beyond belief.
 
2012-12-24 03:13:58 AM  
Nothing to see here....between Bushiat reading my pet goat and Oblama strummin' his ukelele.....Syria is as good as gold......
 
2012-12-24 03:17:53 AM  

verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.

That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.

Yes, on condition: the next time you have sex, your partner has to shout my name.

"Verbaltoxin" or "Theodoric?"

The former.

My left hand will have to learn sign language, but OK!

The safest sex is with yourself. Who knows what you like better than you?


Ick. I know where my hands have been.
 
2012-12-24 03:20:55 AM  
According to "the leading Arabic international daily Assad is willing to leave, with 142 at his side
 
2012-12-24 03:21:52 AM  
I mentioned earlier that this is unconfirmed as it is from a blogger for Al Jezeera, so we just do not know yet what really happened. For those of you talking about how bad it must be there, we do know this:


Assad just bombed a motherfarking breadline killing women and children trying to buy food


/From the main page
//being reported by NPR too
 
2012-12-24 03:25:28 AM  
Analysis on the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/23/syria-crisis-russian-mili t ary-presence
 
2012-12-24 03:46:04 AM  
WTF is wrong with these people? Even the Germans and Brits were decent enough to chill on Christma in 1914. Where in the hell is their Christmas spirit?
 
2012-12-24 04:02:22 AM  
Probably not sarin. The symptoms don't match. It could be old, but typically you store the chemical separate from the dispersal agent.

Doesn't mean someone didn't use a chem weapon. Too many question marks at this point.

/I so hope this is false.
 
2012-12-24 04:34:55 AM  

verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: crypticsatellite: verbaltoxin: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

Your warboner is showing.

That would be an awesome name for a metal band!

WARBONER!!!

May I use it? The name, I mean.

Yes, on condition: the next time you have sex, your partner has to shout my name.

"Verbaltoxin" or "Theodoric?"

The former.

My left hand will have to learn sign language, but OK!

The safest sex is with yourself. Who knows what you like better than you?


As I guy I used to work with always responded when I said I was going to do a calculation by hand:

"A hand job is the quickest job!"
 
2012-12-24 04:44:26 AM  
If this is a chemical attack by government forces, it would inflict large numbers of casualties (maybe not deaths, but exposure and symptoms requiring medical assistance). Pumping gas into rebel area homes by government troops doesn't seem right as the government forces would need protective equipment and be sitting ducks in hostile areas while distributing the material. Chemical deployment via aircraft bombs, missiles, or artillery would seem much more likely as you don't put your own forces at much risk, and you can far more effectively distribute the material. I am not saying something bad didn't happen and these people weren't exposed to something harmful, but the story just doesn't seem right.

Perhaps this was an accidental release. Chemical warheads have been distributed to other bases and field units. Rebels have been overrunning government bases, units and using equipment and ammunition scavenged. Perhaps a chemical artillery shell was unknowningly taken for repurposing into an IED and during the modification, the material was accidently released. Often warheads don't explicitly state what they are and rely on color codes or other notations that the millitary may recognize, but civilians may not. Saying someone accidently released material isn't helpful to either side as they want to demonize their foes and potentially gain support from other nations, so you spin it saying your oppenent did this horrible act intentionally.
 
2012-12-24 04:50:43 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: Either there are a lot more than 7 people dead, or this wasn't a chemical attack.


Sarin gas was released in a Tokyo metro back in 1995 and "only" twelve people died.
 
2012-12-24 05:08:41 AM  

Kalashinator: shower_in_my_socks: Either there are a lot more than 7 people dead, or this wasn't a chemical attack.

Sarin gas was released in a Tokyo metro back in 1995 and "only" twelve people died.


Yes, but 50 suffered significant injury, and hundreds needed medical assistance for temporary symptoms in the Tokyo subway attack. That is the seeming issue here with the reported deliberate attack. There doesn't seem to be the wounded or affected but living that require medical treatment you would expect from a coordinated attack by the government and the reports to me don't make a lot of sense on how you would deploy them with the tools the government has available (aircraft bombs, artillery, missiles (short and medium range).
 
2012-12-24 05:16:10 AM  
Assad isn't going to believe the strength of the letter he's getting from the UN over this!
 
2012-12-24 05:51:33 AM  

croesius: How DARE a country use chemical weapons! No one is allowed to...oh, wait...

Well, how DARE anyone ELSE use them!



Willy P is used to create smoke screens and destroy equipment. It's not my fault is the enemy is still holding the equipment when the WP air bursts over it.

Oh, and an AK-47 is equipment.
 
2012-12-24 06:04:00 AM  
Just woke up and saw this. Is it still being ruled a chemical weapons attack?
 
2012-12-24 06:08:48 AM  

somedude210: Just woke up and saw this. Is it still being ruled a chemical weapons attack?


No confirmation on any press website including the Al Jazeera site even though it's been several hours. I say it's false.
 
2012-12-24 06:17:20 AM  

rwfan: somedude210: Just woke up and saw this. Is it still being ruled a chemical weapons attack?

No confirmation on any press website including the Al Jazeera site even though it's been several hours. I say it's false.


okay, noted. Hopefully we get clarification soon
 
2012-12-24 06:35:17 AM  

Daedalus27: Kalashinator: shower_in_my_socks: Either there are a lot more than 7 people dead, or this wasn't a chemical attack.

Sarin gas was released in a Tokyo metro back in 1995 and "only" twelve people died.

Yes, but 50 suffered significant injury, and hundreds needed medical assistance for temporary symptoms in the Tokyo subway attack. That is the seeming issue here with the reported deliberate attack. There doesn't seem to be the wounded or affected but living that require medical treatment you would expect from a coordinated attack by the government and the reports to me don't make a lot of sense on how you would deploy them with the tools the government has available (aircraft bombs, artillery, missiles (short and medium range).


The subway attacks were in an enclosed area with a lot of people in it. That makes the high number injured more probable regardless of the dispersal method. The majority of people who were injured in thise attacks were not actually affected by the nerve agent. Some were crushing type injuries, but a huge number were psychosomatic reactions to what they thought was going to happen to them. G series nerve agents are not persistant, which will lead to a lower body count than the V series of agents. If not properly aerosolized, they will often be absorbed through the skin rather than breathed in which will result in fewer deaths and a longer period before death, sometimes up to a couple of hours. They are also often largely destroyed by the dispersal method if it involves any form of explosives such as an arty shell or rocket if said shell is not properly constructed. These agents also cause vision issues, nausea, and can cause something caled flaccid paralysis which would likely be reported as relaxed muscles. Everyone jumps to sarin because that is the agent that gets a lot of headlines (not sure why, there are several worse things out there) but there are a lot of nerve agents out there. This specifically makes me think Tabun (GA) based on the very limited info.
 
2012-12-24 06:40:34 AM  
I would not be at all surprised if this turns out to be something cooked up by the rebels, but even if it was the government side, so what? If radical Islamists, funded and armed by a foreign power, were attacking the US and using tactics such as car bombs, beheadings, etc. we would throw everything in our arsenal at them if things weren't going our way, including nukes. Why should we hold the Syrian government to a higher standard?
 
2012-12-24 06:52:05 AM  
One thing that would help would be seeing the pupils of the people who were effected. Pinpointed pupils are really the telling trait of nerve agents. It did appear in the poor quality video that a couple of the people may have had very restricted pupils. There are other things such as opiates that can cause pinpointed pupils, but the other effects combined with severly restricted pupils would almost definately be signs of nerve agent exposure.
 
2012-12-24 06:52:57 AM  

qualtrough: I would not be at all surprised if this turns out to be something cooked up by the rebels, but even if it was the government side, so what? If radical Islamists, funded and armed by a foreign power, were attacking the US and using tactics such as car bombs, beheadings, etc. we would throw everything in our arsenal at them if things weren't going our way, including nukes. Why should we hold the Syrian government to a higher standard?


The US has repeatedly stood up for human rights around the world (most recently in Lybia and Syria), and we use extreme caution when we send our soldiers into combat situations to mitigate collateral damage.  What evidence do you have to suggest we would reject those ideals and "throw everything in our arsenal" at terrorists?
 
2012-12-24 06:53:39 AM  
Did I tell you the Democrat/al Qaeda alliance would set off some chemical weapons over there as an excuse to get the US involved after Obama "warned" the government not to use chemical weapons?

Yes, I did.
 
2012-12-24 06:54:41 AM  

somedude210: rwfan: somedude210: Just woke up and saw this. Is it still being ruled a chemical weapons attack?

No confirmation on any press website including the Al Jazeera site even though it's been several hours. I say it's false.

okay, noted. Hopefully we get clarification soon


The Times of Israel and the Business Insider is reporting it, now.  Search "Chemical Attack" on Google News and you'll see them.
 
2012-12-24 06:56:11 AM  
It's been nice knowing most of you.

:(
 
2012-12-24 06:56:18 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: Did I tell you the Democrat/al Qaeda alliance would set off some chemical weapons over there as an excuse to get the US involved after Obama "warned" the government not to use chemical weapons?

Yes, I did.


You're ideas are enlightening and riveting.  I want to hear more of your conspiracy theory, sir.
 
2012-12-24 06:57:30 AM  

qualtrough: I would not be at all surprised if this turns out to be something cooked up by the rebels, but even if it was the government side, so what? If radical Islamists, funded and armed by a foreign power, were attacking the US and using tactics such as car bombs, beheadings, etc. we would throw everything in our arsenal at them if things weren't going our way, including nukes. Why should we hold the Syrian government to a higher standard?


You sound very informed
 
2012-12-24 07:17:55 AM  
Great, another war. Awesome.
 
2012-12-24 07:18:14 AM  

ultraholland: I just wanted to say warboner.


i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-24 07:25:17 AM  

DerekSD: eraser8: DerekSD: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRBONER!!!!!


/vegan
//chef

Okay, this is a little bit off topic...but, I have to know:

Are you a chef who'll cook anything but just happens to be personally vegan?

Or, are you a chef who refrains from cooking anything that comes from an animal?

c: someone who wanders around and about youtube and is fond of nonsequiters that appeal to my f'ed up sense of humor.

/http://www.youtube.com/user/VeganBlackMetalChef


ummmmm....
uh...
well....
i am not usually at a loss for words... this is new.
/interesting recipe?
 
2012-12-24 07:28:05 AM  
Yeah, I don't believe it. These videos started showing up yesterday morning. But as long as everyone else believes it...
 
2012-12-24 07:31:47 AM  

JonnyG: Yeah, I don't believe it. These videos started showing up yesterday morning. But as long as everyone else believes it...


Do you have a link to these videos from yesterday morning?  That would go a long way to debunk this if it is FUD.
 
2012-12-24 07:41:59 AM  

cretinbob: doglover: NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

Not if you're ready for it.

And not if it's a limited release to make sure it works.

[s1.static.gotsmile.net image 330x260]


Time for the ASS-ad to get kicked hard.

(And of course another excuse for gas to jump a buck or two for a gallon!)
 
2012-12-24 08:05:40 AM  
The wheezing and lack of snot is from the obnoxious smell of bs?

(also, "WOar-BOanArrrrrrR")
 
2012-12-24 08:12:45 AM  
Cry havoc and let slip the boners of war.
 
2012-12-24 08:23:47 AM  
NewportBarGuy
2012-12-23 11:07:17 PM
Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.

Biological weapons release... it's not going to need any help from the media. NATO and US leadership will assault without much question.

Not to be a weapons Nazi, but Sarin is a chemical weapon, not a biological weapon. A biological weapon is something like Anthrax, Tularemia, Plague, Smallpox and is bacterial, viral, or fungi.
 
2012-12-24 08:23:59 AM  

NewportBarGuy: webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

Would you kindly shut the f*ck up.

doglover: NewportBarGuy: It would do a lot more damage than 7 dead.

Not if you're ready for it.

It's a nerve agent. I doubt these people have MOPP 4


So I wiki'd MOPP 4, and there are pictures of guys buried up to their chests in sand. I feel as if I've been tricked somehow.
 
2012-12-24 08:24:56 AM  
It appears the media is doing their job and waiting for information before throwing the world into a gottamned panic.
 
2012-12-24 08:30:59 AM  
If the government forces are now authorized to use chemical weapons, why aren't they launching missiles?  And why is there only one report from one town?  Are there rogue elements in the government forces?  If so, do they have a stockpile of chemical weapons?

We need to find out more about what's going on over there.
 
2012-12-24 08:51:13 AM  

flahorsegirl: RoyFokker'sGhost: Still no verification from CNN, but apparently, the government sent the rebels a holiday arrangement of Scuds on the 21st. Any millitary farkers know how long it takes to swap out the conventional warhead on a Scud for a chemical payload?

as a former AMMO troop, not very long at all.


Flahorsegirl speaks wisdom. Assuming they had ready warheads, it wouldn't take more than an hour or so to swap out something that big. You also have to swap out the

What I wish we had was video w/audio of the actual attack - if you see an impact and hear a BOOM, it's HE, and though it's bad news for the poor bastards under it, it's not a CBW strike. But if you hear a flat, sharp CRACK above the ground,that's another matter entirely. Chem warheads use a bursting charge that's designed to just pop the warhead and disperse the filler, and it's much smaller and (comparatively) quieter than an HE warhead. A good example was during Desert Storm, when we were watching the first Scud attacks on Israel live on CNN. As soon as we saw/heard what was happening we knew that there were a lot of people in bad shape...but the world wasn't going to end just yet.

/USAF Ammo 78-98
 
2012-12-24 08:52:27 AM  
Crap, meant to type "swap out the fuzing system as well".

/PIMF
 
2012-12-24 08:59:22 AM  

elchip: Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar.

The government of Qatar supports the Syrian rebels.

That doesn't mean they're wrong, but there could be some urge to jump the gun here.


Quoted for truth. Don't believe anything you see in the Arab press, people. If you think "fair and balanced" is a running joke in American mass media, we've got nothing on the Arabs. Lying bastards, the lot of them.
 
2012-12-24 09:06:19 AM  

croesius: How DARE a country use chemical weapons! No one is allowed to...oh, wait...
[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Well, how DARE anyone ELSE use them!


I'm sorry, are you trying to compare tear gas with nerve gas?

Are you really that farking stupid?

fotos.halabja.eu

That's what Sarin Does, you internet tough guy piece of shiat. You die a horrible, painful death while you choke on your own secretions which you uncontrollably produce.

www.kdp.se

That's Halabja, in 1988, when Sadaam decided to use Sarin against a mostly civilian population. Women died cradling their dead babies in their arms trying to flee.

hellinahandbasket.net

That's the effect of tear gas.

THE UNITED STATES HAS NOT HAD OFFENSIVE CHEMICAL WEAPONS SINCE 1973. PLEASE STFU.
 
2012-12-24 09:13:49 AM  

BronyMedic: croesius: How DARE a country use chemical weapons! No one is allowed to...oh, wait...
[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Well, how DARE anyone ELSE use them!

I'm sorry, are you trying to compare tear gas with nerve gas?

Are you really that farking stupid?

[fotos.halabja.eu image 423x300]

That's what Sarin Does, you internet tough guy piece of shiat. You die a horrible, painful death while you choke on your own secretions which you uncontrollably produce.

[www.kdp.se image 296x203]

That's Halabja, in 1988, when Sadaam decided to use Sarin against a mostly civilian population. Women died cradling their dead babies in their arms trying to flee.

[hellinahandbasket.net image 390x594]

That's the effect of tear gas.

THE UNITED STATES HAS NOT HAD OFFENSIVE CHEMICAL WEAPONS SINCE 1973. PLEASE STFU.


Alright, first off, that picture he reference was from an Israeli offensive on Gaza using white phosphorous.
It is NOT tear gas.
White phosphorous is pretty horrendous stuff when used against soft targets. It is classified as a chemical weapon, but just like the US back in '04, weaseled its way out by saying "illumination purposes only!"

Citation
 
2012-12-24 09:16:18 AM  

DeathCipris: Alright, first off, that picture he reference was from an Israeli offensive on Gaza using white phosphorous.
It is NOT tear gas.
White phosphorous is pretty horrendous stuff when used against soft targets. It is classified as a chemical weapon, but just like the US back in '04, weaseled its way out by saying "illumination purposes only!"


Which is shameful. And it's especially shameful that Israel would use it against a civilian population. But it still doesn't equate to Sarin gas.
 
2012-12-24 09:23:27 AM  

BronyMedic: DeathCipris: Alright, first off, that picture he reference was from an Israeli offensive on Gaza using white phosphorous.
It is NOT tear gas.
White phosphorous is pretty horrendous stuff when used against soft targets. It is classified as a chemical weapon, but just like the US back in '04, weaseled its way out by saying "illumination purposes only!"

Which is shameful. And it's especially shameful that Israel would use it against a civilian population. But it still doesn't equate to Sarin gas.


It is still a violation of International Law and considered a chemical attack, which I believe was his point. And yes, white phosphorous is deadly and can be even more painful than Sarin gas.
See the following:
Linky because picture is very graphic and could be NSFW

Those are burns from the use of white phosphorous on a soft target, almost like Napalm. This is why their use as a weapon is banned. Please get your facts straight.
 
2012-12-24 09:25:30 AM  

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

[img822.imageshack.us image 500x709]


on Christmas eve? the nerve of that guy. he should be lowered into whatever state Syria is in and go door-to-door giving apology blowjobs to everyone until webthing01 is satisfied.

BTW that photoshop reminds me of that pic of Bush playing the six-string during Katrina, and even though it's a shoop as well at least it actually happened,

www.funnyandjokes.com
 
2012-12-24 09:40:03 AM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: RoyFokker'sGhost: Still no verification from CNN, but apparently, the government sent the rebels a holiday arrangement of Scuds on the 21st. Any millitary farkers know how long it takes to swap out the conventional warhead on a Scud for a chemical payload?

as a former AMMO troop, not very long at all.

As a former WPNS troop, I agree. Any competent crew could repurpose them very quickly. Assuming the new payload was available.



Same here. 461 AF. Couple hours, maybe.
 
2012-12-24 09:41:09 AM  

cig-mkr: Will Obama fly home?
Will the Senate return to the capital?
Will the House return to the capital?
This and more on Fox News tonight @ 11


Obama's flight home a publicity stunt, say sources
Obama's flight home cost 44 million, says source close to president
Why has Obama started a march to war?
This and more on Fox News tomorrow @ 11
 
2012-12-24 09:41:42 AM  

BronyMedic: THE UNITED STATES HAS NOT HAD OFFENSIVE CHEMICAL WEAPONS SINCE 1973. PLEASE STFU.


Well, that's not entirely correct. We've had them, just been in the process of destroying our stockpiles and only literally in April 2012 are we almost done doing that. Still have roughly 10% of the original stockpiles to go (we didn't meet the deadline we imposed on ourselves).

*shrugs*
 
2012-12-24 09:50:00 AM  

elchip: webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

How dare he! He should be acting like a responsible President and clearing brush on his Texas play ranch instead!


Oh for fark's sake. We are now 2 elections removed from Bush. Is that really the best you got? Time to move on.


Oh, and go ahead and take that Gore bumper sticker off your car. It makes you look like a bitter tool.
 
2012-12-24 09:57:03 AM  

KellyX: . Still have roughly 10% of the original stockpiles to go (we didn't meet the deadline we imposed on ourselves).

*shrugs*


to be fair, 10% of a stockpile with 0% Delivery Capability.
 
2012-12-24 10:02:02 AM  

blanchae: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.

Yeah they are one of the few reliable and believe it or not neutral. I followed the Libya and Egypt uprisings and they reported the good, bad and ugly. Surprisingly they don't lean one way or the other. If the report is false, they will correct it but normally they get it right the first time.


Same. I followed these stories and I can vouch for them.
 
2012-12-24 10:03:38 AM  

BronyMedic: KellyX: . Still have roughly 10% of the original stockpiles to go (we didn't meet the deadline we imposed on ourselves).

*shrugs*

to be fair, 10% of a stockpile with 0% Delivery Capability.


If they choose to use, it wouldn't be hard, but I was just being technical ;)

Besides, nuclear fireballs if you use chemical/biological weapons against the US is so much more fun...
 
2012-12-24 10:31:30 AM  

webthing01: Don't bother the president.......... He's in Hawaii on vacation.

[img822.imageshack.us image 500x709]


Good.

That shiat, like most of the Middle East, is none of our business.

/never understood people, left or right, who don't like a given president, yet complain he spends too much time on vacation...
//wouldn't you want him doing less?
 
2012-12-24 10:37:56 AM  
Seven?
 
2012-12-24 10:44:06 AM  

Bontesla: crypticsatellite: NewportBarGuy: Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.

Biological weapons release... it's not going to need any help from the media. NATO and US leadership will assault without much question.

I hope so, but I question Obama's resolve.

Obama has been incredibly aggressive at certain times. I'm not as concerned for his resolve as I am about the type of intervention that almost appears inevitable at this point...


Obama couldn't sit idly by while tens of thousands died in Lybia because the Arab League said it was ok for him to act. There has been no such proclamation here, so he's ok with sitting idly.

Once he gets the green light, he'll act. The problem is that after Lybia, the Arab league is likely to come to a unanimous decision without serious outside pressure.
 
2012-12-24 10:57:56 AM  

croesius: How DARE a country use chemical weapons! No one is allowed to...oh, wait...
[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Well, how DARE anyone ELSE use them!


That's smoke, not a chemical weapon. It's not exactly something you want to breathe in large quantities but neither is what comes off most high explosives.

The purpose wasn't to harm anybody, but rather to keep the people in the building behind from being able to see as Israel didn't want to smash the building to stop them from shooting.

BronyMedic: croesius: How DARE a country use chemical weapons! No one is allowed to...oh, wait...
[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Well, how DARE anyone ELSE use them!

I'm sorry, are you trying to compare tear gas with nerve gas?

Are you really that farking stupid?


What he was comparing was white phosphorus. That shot is commonly used for Israel-bashing, it's a perfectly ordinary smoke mission to cover some exposed troops but it's routinely reported as a chemical weapons attack.
 
2012-12-24 11:12:01 AM  

zerkalo: Syria is a major regional producer of phosphates that could conceivably be used for WMD. The country produces 2 million tons of phosphate per year and has an estimated reserve of around 2 billion tons. In October 2002 it was announced that a major "super" phosphate plant was to be constructed near Palmyra with a partnership between Russia and the state-owned General Company for Phosphate and Mines. A similar project is underway with the Indian firm, Dharmasi Morarji Chimicals Ltd.


BS-LIKE REPORTING DETECTED

Something like 90% of phosphate production goes right back into the ground as fertilizer. I'm betting that an entire national WMD program would consume less "phosphate" than a single good-sized farm. Pointing to phosphate production as a marker of chemical-weapons activity is beyond ridiculous.

I can believe the production figures they report, and yes, it's true that some of that total could "conceivably" be used in WMD production. As could the water they annually produce/consume. But that doesn't get you to "this is more evidence of WMD activity", as the original report apparently would like you to conclude.
 
2012-12-24 11:37:05 AM  
Gee, I wonder if they were stamped Made in Iraq? Naw, it couldn't be. That would make George Bush right.
 
2012-12-24 11:43:43 AM  

jfarkinB: Something like 90% of phosphate production goes right back into the ground as fertilizer. I'm betting that an entire national WMD program would consume less "phosphate" than a single good-sized farm. Pointing to phosphate production as a marker of chemical-weapons activity is beyond ridiculous.

I can believe the production figures they report, and yes, it's true that some of that total could "conceivably" be used in WMD production. As could the water they annually produce/consume. But that doesn't get you to "this is more evidence of WMD activity", as the original report apparently would like you to conclude.


You'd think Chemotherapy drugs wouldn't need to be reported to the CWC Oversight Committee by any country either, but you'd be wrong.
 
2012-12-24 11:47:47 AM  

BronyMedic: croesius:


Enjoy your vacation. Use this time for some self reflection.
 
2012-12-24 11:55:30 AM  

KellyX: BronyMedic: THE UNITED STATES HAS NOT HAD OFFENSIVE CHEMICAL WEAPONS SINCE 1973. PLEASE STFU.

Well, that's not entirely correct. We've had them, just been in the process of destroying our stockpiles and only literally in April 2012 are we almost done doing that. Still have roughly 10% of the original stockpiles to go (we didn't meet the deadline we imposed on ourselves).

*shrugs*


KellyX also speaks wisdom. In 84-85 in PACAF, we practiced receiving/prepping chem weapons on a regular basis.
 
2012-12-24 12:10:53 PM  
BronyMedic ...... Posting pictures of dead children. This isn't 4chan... I hope.
 
2012-12-24 12:12:57 PM  
This just in: Arabs know that manipulating Western media works
Gulf War/Nayirah Testimony
 
2012-12-24 12:25:22 PM  

Jumpedthefark: BronyMedic ...... Posting pictures of dead children. This isn't 4chan... I hope.


That used to get you a 24 hour ban with a warning. Since the pics are still up and he's still posting I assume hes a mod who's trolling or the mod's are still asleep. But yea welcome to fark, 4chan light. Slowly turning into 4chan regular. Anybody want to start a GORE thread to really get the ball rolling?
 
2012-12-24 12:38:21 PM  

Jumpedthefark: BronyMedic ...... Posting pictures of dead children. This isn't 4chan... I hope.


No, it's real life and every person should see images like these so they can come out of their patriotic shells and do something good to change this f**king planet for the better. That blood is on the hands of every ignorant human out there. We live in a world of "If I don't see it, it's not happening" and that needs to change.
 
2012-12-24 12:46:26 PM  

MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible? I'm asking out of genuine ignorance here. I have no dog in the fight over news agencies.


According to Drew,in the Google hangouts thing , their probably the only news source that actually care about the content of their news as opposed just the entertainment value.

/Sorry about being to lazy to find where he says it
//Great analogy involving fruit stands
///trust me
 
2012-12-24 01:09:44 PM  

orclover: BronyMedic: croesius: Enjoy your vacation. Use this time for some self reflection.


You do realize this is the fourth time I've posted those pictures, right? As they're not intended to troll, the mods won't ban me for it. And the fact you seem to think I get some sick pleasure out of posting pictures of children who died in a way that I wouldn't wish on Adolf Hitler himself makes me want to reach through the internet, and cockpunch you.

orclover: That used to get you a 24 hour ban with a warning. Since the pics are still up and he's still posting I assume hes a mod who's trolling or the mod's are still asleep. But yea welcome to fark, 4chan light. Slowly turning into 4chan regular. Anybody want to start a GORE thread to really get the ball rolling?


Do you think I would tolerate your Bullshiat like this if I were a mod? No. You'd be going back to Reddit with a permaban.

legalhighproviders.info
I'm sorry you're a panty wearing pussy who can't face the fact that innocent men, women, and children will die horrifically if this is allowed to continue. Allow me to apologize for offending your sensibilities with reality.
 
2012-12-24 01:14:48 PM  

JonnyG: Jumpedthefark: BronyMedic ...... Posting pictures of dead children. This isn't 4chan... I hope.

No, it's real life and every person should see images like these so they can come out of their patriotic shells and do something good to change this f**king planet for the better. That blood is on the hands of every ignorant human out there. We live in a world of "If I don't see it, it's not happening" and that needs to change.


I kinda agree with this. Insulating citizens from what carnage ACTUALLY looks like allows us to make assumptions based on Hollywood movies or video games. The result is a complete disconnect from the realities of war.

We need to throw up in horror once in a while. It'll make sure we stop this crap before it shows up on our front porch.
 
2012-12-24 01:20:21 PM  

Peki: I kinda agree with this. Insulating citizens from what carnage ACTUALLY looks like allows us to make assumptions based on Hollywood movies or video games. The result is a complete disconnect from the realities of war.

We need to throw up in horror once in a while. It'll make sure we stop this crap before it shows up on our front porch.


What's ironic is that orclover is mad at me for posting those pictures, yet pictures of an execution in the Vietnam war, and holocaust victims - men, women and children, both dead and dying are posted as jokes all the time on FARK.

I guess it's not as nice to have the results of your apathy thrown in your face. Everyone wants to eat the hamburger, but no one wants to meat the cow.
 
2012-12-24 01:40:16 PM  

BronyMedic: Peki: I kinda agree with this. Insulating citizens from what carnage ACTUALLY looks like allows us to make assumptions based on Hollywood movies or video games. The result is a complete disconnect from the realities of war.

We need to throw up in horror once in a while. It'll make sure we stop this crap before it shows up on our front porch.

What's ironic is that orclover is mad at me for posting those pictures, yet pictures of an execution in the Vietnam war, and holocaust victims - men, women and children, both dead and dying are posted as jokes all the time on FARK.

I guess it's not as nice to have the results of your apathy thrown in your face. Everyone wants to eat the hamburger, but no one wants to meat the cow.


Yeah, I'm not sure about the outrage there. I purposefully try to avoid pictures like that, but my reasons are two-fold: I have PTSD and don't need the fodder for my dreams, and I am perfectly well aware of the grotesque nature of weapons of war, whether kinetic, biological, or chemical.

However, the dumb biatch I heard yesterday that said something about how her bf could own Assad because he was number one in world standings on CoD? Both of those folks need to sit for awhile in front of pictures and documentaries.

On an unrelated note: everyone here has been talking about how horrible tear gas is. My bro is in the Navy, and I got exposed to it after an ex-husband of mine was gassed as part of his training to be a prison guard (stuck to his clothes, I didnt know and put it to my face to smell if it needed washing). Bro and I both describe it as sweet-smelling, might make the eyes a little watery, but we never got the snot problems everyone here is describing--a minor inconvenience at worst. Are there genetic predispositions to not being affected by tear gas?
 
2012-12-24 01:42:50 PM  

Bontesla: crypticsatellite: NewportBarGuy: Bontesla: You've already lost the publicity war if news articles are making these claims against you.

Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life. If he uses these weapons, I can tell you right now the Joint Chiefs will recommend that Obama kill him and his whole family.

Biological weapons release... it's not going to need any help from the media. NATO and US leadership will assault without much question.

I hope so, but I question Obama's resolve.

Obama has been incredibly aggressive at certain times. I'm not as concerned for his resolve as I am about the type of intervention that almost appears inevitable at this point...


He's shown a pretty impressive amount of competence and restraint. Out of all the players to be worried about, he's low on my list.
 
2012-12-24 01:58:32 PM  

BronyMedic: orclover: BronyMedic: croesius: Enjoy your vacation. Use this time for some self reflection.

You do realize this is the fourth time I've posted those pictures, right? As they're not intended to troll, the mods won't ban me for it. And the fact you seem to think I get some sick pleasure out of posting pictures of children who died in a way that I wouldn't wish on Adolf Hitler himself makes me want to reach through the internet, and cockpunch you.

orclover: That used to get you a 24 hour ban with a warning. Since the pics are still up and he's still posting I assume hes a mod who's trolling or the mod's are still asleep. But yea welcome to fark, 4chan light. Slowly turning into 4chan regular. Anybody want to start a GORE thread to really get the ball rolling?

Do you think I would tolerate your Bullshiat like this if I were a mod? No. You'd be going back to Reddit with a permaban.

[legalhighproviders.info image 570x428]
I'm sorry you're a panty wearing pussy who can't face the fact that innocent men, women, and children will die horrifically if this is allowed to continue. Allow me to apologize for offending your sensibilities with reality.


Trolling. Flaunting. Yep mods are asleep or you give great hummers to one of them. Enjoy your reign o king of trolls, you have the golden pass. The only defense we mortals have is the ignore button, till they take that away too.
 
2012-12-24 02:03:05 PM  

spideyknix: Assad is a billionaire. All he has to do is say No Mas and he can go live in Dubai for the rest of his life


He can't. You are forgetting one of the fundamental aspects of arab society - tribalism. If he does his tribe the Alawites will be slaughtered.
I said before in Syrian related Fark threads that he will use whatever he has when his back is to the wall. I believe worse is yet to come.
 
2012-12-24 02:07:49 PM  
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-24 02:17:08 PM  

orclover: Trolling. Flaunting. Yep mods are asleep or you give great hummers to one of them. Enjoy your reign o king of trolls, you have the golden pass. The only defense we mortals have is the ignore button, till they take that away too.


Good idea. I think I'll use it and stop responding to your stupidity.
 
2012-12-24 02:59:48 PM  
Is warboner the new weedlord bonerhitler?
 
2012-12-24 03:37:36 PM  

orclover: BronyMedic: orclover: BronyMedic: croesius: Enjoy your vacation. Use this time for some self reflection.

You do realize this is the fourth time I've posted those pictures, right? As they're not intended to troll, the mods won't ban me for it. And the fact you seem to think I get some sick pleasure out of posting pictures of children who died in a way that I wouldn't wish on Adolf Hitler himself makes me want to reach through the internet, and cockpunch you.

orclover: That used to get you a 24 hour ban with a warning. Since the pics are still up and he's still posting I assume hes a mod who's trolling or the mod's are still asleep. But yea welcome to fark, 4chan light. Slowly turning into 4chan regular. Anybody want to start a GORE thread to really get the ball rolling?

Do you think I would tolerate your Bullshiat like this if I were a mod? No. You'd be going back to Reddit with a permaban.

[legalhighproviders.info image 570x428]
I'm sorry you're a panty wearing pussy who can't face the fact that innocent men, women, and children will die horrifically if this is allowed to continue. Allow me to apologize for offending your sensibilities with reality.

Trolling. Flaunting. Yep mods are asleep or you give great hummers to one of them. Enjoy your reign o king of trolls, you have the golden pass. The only defense we mortals have is the ignore button, till they take that away too.


Posting pictures of the very real effects of deadly poison in a thread about an attack using deadly poison is "trolling"? Sorry your delicate sensibilities are so easily harmed, but the real world cares not for your wimpiness.
 
2012-12-24 03:56:44 PM  
Shot with a gun? Ok. Blown up with a cruise missile? Cool. Get a few parts knocked off by a mine? S'OK. Blasted by artillery? Fine. Chemical weapons? ZOMG OH NOES!!!!!

Seems kind of silly to say that other ways of killing are tolerable, but oh no, not this one. Dead is dead and pain is pain. Getting a bunch of shiat blown off you can cause excruciating, lingering pain too before you snuff it.

Wouldn't care to have any of them happen to me.
 
2012-12-24 04:14:46 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Shot with a gun? Ok. Blown up with a cruise missile? Cool. Get a few parts knocked off by a mine? S'OK. Blasted by artillery? Fine. Chemical weapons? ZOMG OH NOES!!!!!

Seems kind of silly to say that other ways of killing are tolerable, but oh no, not this one. Dead is dead and pain is pain. Getting a bunch of shiat blown off you can cause excruciating, lingering pain too before you snuff it.

Wouldn't care to have any of them happen to me.


cdn.motinetwork.net
 
2012-12-24 04:18:54 PM  
Well the cretinous internet tough guy award for this thread goes to bronymedic for doubling down on the derp when his jimmies got rustled by something he misinterpreted. Well done champ!
 
2012-12-24 04:58:03 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.


This. Even Hitler would not use poison gas , having been gassed himself once in world war I so that should tell you something on how nasty the stuff is.
 
2012-12-24 05:28:31 PM  

grimlock1972: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

This. Even Hitler would not use poison gas , having been gassed himself once in world war I so that should tell you something on how nasty the stuff is.




Not sure if serious. Pretty sure there's some Jews that might disagree with that.
 
2012-12-24 05:33:00 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not sure if serious. Pretty sure there's some Jews that might disagree with that.


It's my understanding that the Wannasee Conference, where Zyklon B was determined as the instrument of extermination, was done without Hitler's influence. He just instructed his underlings to do it in the most efficient manner. Hitler himself had ruled out using poison gas on the Allies, as he was afraid of it being used against Germany's cities.
 
2012-12-24 06:10:25 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: grimlock1972: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

This. Even Hitler would not use poison gas , having been gassed himself once in world war I so that should tell you something on how nasty the stuff is.

Not sure if serious. Pretty sure there's some Jews that might disagree with that.


Point taken but as Brony medic said , it was used as a method of extermination, Hitler was not concerned with how the jews were killed just that they were killed in the most efficient method possible, Also seeing as he reguarded Jews as subhuman i highly doubt he had much issue with using Zyklon-B on them.

Hitler express forbid the use of poison gas as a weapon of combat he knew the effects first hand and would not risk it being used against his own people in retaliation.
 
2012-12-24 06:13:31 PM  

grimlock1972: Prank Call of Cthulhu: grimlock1972: Popcorn Johnny: If true, it is so farking on.

This. Even Hitler would not use poison gas , having been gassed himself once in world war I so that should tell you something on how nasty the stuff is.

Not sure if serious. Pretty sure there's some Jews that might disagree with that.

Point taken but as Brony medic said , it was used as a method of extermination, Hitler was not concerned with how the jews were killed just that they were killed in the most efficient method possible, Also seeing as he reguarded Jews as subhuman i highly doubt he had much issue with using Zyklon-B on them.

Hitler express forbid the use of poison gas as a weapon of combat he knew the effects first hand and would not risk it being used against his own people in retaliation.




Huh. Didn't know that. I envision the YouTube "Hitler finds out poison gas was used on the Jews":

[Hitler]: "Meh."
 
2012-12-24 06:42:02 PM  

orclover: Jumpedthefark: BronyMedic ...... Posting pictures of dead children. This isn't 4chan... I hope.

That used to get you a 24 hour ban with a warning. Since the pics are still up and he's still posting I assume hes a mod who's trolling or the mod's are still asleep. But yea welcome to fark, 4chan light. Slowly turning into 4chan regular. Anybody want to start a GORE thread to really get the ball rolling?



Those pics are disturbing. However, they do not compare to the horrible shiat you can find on 4chan.

/unless you're going with the "slippery slope" logic. It seems to work well on Americans.
 
2012-12-24 07:34:20 PM  

DeathCipris: BronyMedic: DeathCipris: Alright, first off, that picture he reference was from an Israeli offensive on Gaza using white phosphorous.
It is NOT tear gas.
White phosphorous is pretty horrendous stuff when used against soft targets. It is classified as a chemical weapon, but just like the US back in '04, weaseled its way out by saying "illumination purposes only!"

Which is shameful. And it's especially shameful that Israel would use it against a civilian population. But it still doesn't equate to Sarin gas.

It is still a violation of International Law and considered a chemical attack, which I believe was his point. And yes, white phosphorous is deadly and can be even more painful than Sarin gas.
See the following:
Linky because picture is very graphic and could be NSFW

Those are burns from the use of white phosphorous on a soft target, almost like Napalm. This is why their use as a weapon is banned. Please get your facts straight.


Napalm Sticks to Kids

We shoot the sick, the young, the lame,
We do our best to kill and maim,
Because the kills all count the same,
Napalm sticks to kids.

Flying low across the trees,
Pilots doing what they please,
Dropping frags on refugees,
Napalm sticks to kids.

Flying low and looking mean
See that family by the stream
Drop some nape & hear them scream
Napalm sticks to kids.

A group of gooks in the grass
But all the fighting has long since passed
Crispy youngsters in a mass
Napalm sticks to kids.

Drop some napalm on the barn,
It won't do much harm,
Just burn off a leg or an arm,
Napalm sticks to kids.

Gather kids as you fly over town,
By tossing candy on the ground,
Then grease 'em when they gather 'round,
Napalm sticks to kids.

Ox-cart rolling down the road
Peasants with a heavy load
They're all VC when the bombs explode,
Napalm sticks to kids.

Cobras flying in the sun,
Killing gooks is macho fun,
If one's pregnant and it's two for one,
Napalm sticks to kids.

There's a gook down on her knees
Launching flechettes* into the breeze.
Her arms are nailed to the trees
Napalm sticks to kids.

Blues[?] on a road recon
See some children with their mom
What the hell -- lets drop the bomb
Napalm sticks to kids.

Their in good shape for the shape they're in
But, God, how I wonder how they can win
With napalm running down their skin,
Napalm sticks to kids.

CIA with guns for hire,
Montagnards around a fire,
Napalm makes the fire higher,
Napalm sticks to kids.

A baby sucking on a mother's tit,
Children cowering in a pit,
Dow Chemical doesn't give a shiat,
Napalm sticks to kids.

18 kids in a no fire zone
Books on their arms as the go home
The last in line goes home alone
Napalm sticks to kids.
/war is hell
//Heaven forbid anyone gets killed in one
 
2012-12-24 07:56:55 PM  

Peki:

On an unrelated note: everyone here has been talking about how horrible tear gas is. My bro is in the Navy, and I got exposed to it after an ex-husband of mine was gassed as part of his training to be a prison guard (stuck to his clothes, I didnt know and put it to my face to smell if it needed washing). Bro and I both describe it as sweet-smelling, might make the eyes a little watery, but we never got the snot problems everyone here is describing--a minor inconvenience at worst. Are there genetic predispositions to not being affected by tear gas?


An incidental exposure to CS on clothing is nothing at all like being in the gas chamber or in the cloud made by a CS grenade. It requires heat to be activated and needs to have the gas (in gas form) get into your mucus membranes to have a full effect. That being said, there are some people who are less effected by it than others and personally I don't think it is that bad if you don't panic. OC is way worse and has a residual effect, unlike CS which loses its effects as soon as you get out of it.

Someone else asked if you would die if you stayed in it long enough. You will not. It is not toxic and it is not an oxygen displacing gas, it is just an irritant.
 
2012-12-24 08:13:38 PM  

Beauf: Someone else asked if you would die if you stayed in it long enough. You will not. It is not toxic and it is not an oxygen displacing gas, it is just an irritant.


CS can be fatal in anyone with Asthma or COPD.
 
2012-12-25 12:33:10 AM  

Apos: MIRV888: OK, I know I'm going to regret this because it's fark, but is aljazeera considered a reliable enough news service to make this credible?


It's a very credible news organization, which is precisely why I believe it. They've rarely, if ever, dropped the ball on a story, especially one of this magnitude.


I have much more faith in them than the New York Times or anything AP-related.
 
2012-12-26 03:19:36 PM  

chuggernaught: orclover: Jumpedthefark: BronyMedic ...... Posting pictures of dead children. This isn't 4chan... I hope.

That used to get you a 24 hour ban with a warning. Since the pics are still up and he's still posting I assume hes a mod who's trolling or the mod's are still asleep. But yea welcome to fark, 4chan light. Slowly turning into 4chan regular. Anybody want to start a GORE thread to really get the ball rolling?


Those pics are disturbing. However, they do not compare to the horrible shiat you can find on 4chan.

/unless you're going with the "slippery slope" logic. It seems to work well on Americans.


Less "slippery slope" and more troll actually. Thought I'd give it a try. I do get sick and tired of Bmedic type people who think only they know the truth and must act the messenger for the sheeple. I guess he's still a little wet behind the ears.
 
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