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(Some Guy)   USAF crews partake in one of the most important missions of the year. It's a little dusty in the room   (airman.dodlive.mil) divider line 81
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2012-12-23 09:09:02 PM  
Very cool. Had no idea they were still doing that.
 
2012-12-23 09:11:30 PM  
That's actually somewhat disturbing.
 
2012-12-23 09:11:36 PM  
remember reading of air dropped supplies for some disaster area, small food bundles. a woman was killed when a bundle hit her in the head.
 
2012-12-23 09:17:05 PM  
Let's not forget that the people of Micronesia have to kill 8 others before they can call in the airdrop.
 
2012-12-23 09:18:16 PM  

KrispyKritter: remember reading of air dropped supplies for some disaster area, small food bundles. a woman was killed when a bundle hit her in the head.


Supposedly, that happened in Kurdistan, when Saddam was still in power and persecuting the Kurds. Which is why they drop them off-shore in waterproof containers for this operation.
 
2012-12-23 09:24:31 PM  
It doesn't look like those islanders have missed many meals.
 
2012-12-23 09:24:48 PM  
Considering USAF missions typically involve dropping high explosive on 3rd world peasants who are zero threat to the USA, anything other than that is an improvement.
 
2012-12-23 09:26:48 PM  
Thanks fellow Airmen!
 
2012-12-23 09:38:02 PM  
Until someone makes a mistake, and the islanders find a B-83 sitting on the beach.
 
2012-12-23 09:41:55 PM  
Supply flights & drops are meant to help those who can use it. As in Aid Abet & Assist. That's why I votied for this one, & refrain from making a genuine particular directed side comment.
 
2012-12-23 09:42:06 PM  

KrispyKritter: remember reading of air dropped supplies for some disaster area, small food bundles. a woman was killed when a bundle hit her in the head.


I think you get a trophy for doing that in Call of Duty. No, seriously.
 
2012-12-23 09:43:38 PM  
They should do a Coats For Kids drop next year.
 
2012-12-23 09:47:05 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: //and Vidar, god of vengeance


The Silent One?

And goddamnit subby, clean your house once in a while, and you won't have dust problems every other day.
 
2012-12-23 09:49:15 PM  
One thing to remember though is historically, we have used these islands for target practice. There is a huge number of Micronesians living in Honolulu who receive free health care... It's a weird situation because we do owe them for ruining their islands & health in the middle of the last century. There is a great deal of prejudice toward Micronesians in Honolulu.

Here's more on the free health care situation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3254229/
 
2012-12-23 09:50:16 PM  
fark Micronesia.

They need to be droppin' that shiat over Detroit yo!
 
2012-12-23 09:52:27 PM  
Are they TRYING to start a cargo cult or what?
 
2012-12-23 09:53:59 PM  

starsrift: Real Women Drink Akvavit: //and Vidar, god of vengeance

The Silent One?

And goddamnit subby, clean your house once in a while, and you won't have dust problems every other day.


Yup. Odin's son and slayer of Fenrir during Ragnarok. You can see why some of my other Heathen buddies look at me slightly askance. Mischief and trickery + quiet IRL and vengeful = oh, shiat, she's smiling for no reason. RUN!!!
 
2012-12-23 09:58:29 PM  

Hagenhatesyouall: fark Micronesia.

They need to be droppin' that shiat over Detroit yo!


Yeah, I can just see the gun battle as people fight over the packages...
 
2012-12-23 10:02:14 PM  

It's Me Bender: Considering USAF missions typically involve dropping high explosive on 3rd world peasants who are zero threat to the USA, anything other than that is an improvement.


That is so rolling thunder dude... above all the Air Force is a kick ass airline with pinpoint delivery...
 
2012-12-23 10:02:33 PM  

fusillade762: Are they TRYING to start a cargo cult or what?


www.webstocknet.com
 
2012-12-23 10:09:35 PM  

Hagenhatesyouall: fark Micronesia.

They need to be droppin' that shiat over Detroit yo!


No, no, no. I think you're misunderstanding. Theyre dropping things like fishing poles so the people can be self sufficient. The people of Detroit wouldnt know what to do with tools like that.
 
2012-12-23 10:13:00 PM  

uncleacid: It doesn't look like those islanders have missed many meals.


I was wondering about that too.  I'd have expected them to be fit considering the fish and fruit diet they must be on.
 
2012-12-23 10:16:04 PM  
I was stationed on Guam in the 90's... one year I was selected to escort the box full of gifts that was sponsored by my squadron... It was supposed to be a honor to be selected ... Well I spent a miserable, cold 9 hour, round trip flight, just to put on a harness and push a box out the back of a C130...The following Christmas, I insisted that someone else get the "honor" .
 
2012-12-23 10:16:17 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: uncleacid: It doesn't look like those islanders have missed many meals.

I was wondering about that too.  I'd have expected them to be fit considering the fish and fruit diet they must be on.



One word: Spam
 
2012-12-23 10:20:53 PM  
poe_zlaw: Theyre dropping things like fishing poles so the people can be self sufficient.

We've been "dropping things like fishing poles so the people can be self sufficient" for more than half a century now. When does the actual self sufficiency kick in?
 
2012-12-23 10:22:37 PM  
 America, it's nice to know you can still be a beacon of hope.

 This was an awesome find, subby. I didn't realize this was still happening.
 
2012-12-23 10:24:29 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: poe_zlaw: Theyre dropping things like fishing poles so the people can be self sufficient.

We've been "dropping things like fishing poles so the people can be self sufficient" for more than half a century now. When does the actual self sufficiency kick in?


When  they quit reproducing, requiring the need for additional supplies or replacement items that may or may not wear out over time anyway?

/just guessing
 
2012-12-23 10:24:45 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: poe_zlaw: Theyre dropping things like fishing poles so the people can be self sufficient.

We've been "dropping things like fishing poles so the people can be self sufficient" for more than half a century now. When does the actual self sufficiency kick in?


Uh, I would guess that the islanders are managing to feed their families would be a good starting point. Not everyone lives in a comparable paradise dotted with cheap fast-food, jerk.
 
2012-12-23 10:26:04 PM  

USAF Retired: I was stationed on Guam in the 90's... one year I was selected to escort the box full of gifts that was sponsored by my squadron... It was supposed to be a honor to be selected ... Well I spent a miserable, cold 9 hour, round trip flight, just to put on a harness and push a box out the back of a C130...The following Christmas, I insisted that someone else get the "honor" .


i'm sorry that being charitable and doing your job was such an ordeal for you.

asshole.
 
2012-12-23 10:28:43 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: USAF Retired: I was stationed on Guam in the 90's... one year I was selected to escort the box full of gifts that was sponsored by my squadron... It was supposed to be a honor to be selected ... Well I spent a miserable, cold 9 hour, round trip flight, just to put on a harness and push a box out the back of a C130...The following Christmas, I insisted that someone else get the "honor" .

i'm sorry that being charitable and doing your job was such an ordeal for you.

asshole.


maybe he simply confused the word "honor" with "easy" when they told him about the trip
 
2012-12-23 10:30:56 PM  

USAF Retired: I was stationed on Guam in the 90's... one year I was selected to escort the box full of gifts that was sponsored by my squadron... It was supposed to be a honor to be selected ... Well I spent a miserable, cold 9 hour, round trip flight, just to put on a harness and push a box out the back of a C130...The following Christmas, I insisted that someone else get the "honor" .


I can see where dropping from a C-17 would be preferable. More cargo can go out, and it cuts your flight time in half.
/Worked at AWK as a contractorfor 2 years-came -this- close to having to take a C-130 (8 hour flight in a web seat) back there from HNL once. Thankfully that plane went tech and I took a C-40 (military 737) flight the next day (4.5 hours in a regular airline type seat). The flights between AWK and KWA are bad (on the rare occasion they happen) too. Old ass Metroliner with a life raft strapped into one of the 17 seats for 3 hours? No thanks.

/End CSB
 
2012-12-23 10:32:03 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: i'm sorry that being charitable and doing your job was such an ordeal for you.


I think the point of his story was that "escorting" a box of gifts was a useless waste of time, considering that the transport's crewmen could have shove the box out the back of the plane themselves.
 
2012-12-23 10:32:26 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: USAF Retired: I was stationed on Guam in the 90's... one year I was selected to escort the box full of gifts that was sponsored by my squadron... It was supposed to be a honor to be selected ... Well I spent a miserable, cold 9 hour, round trip flight, just to put on a harness and push a box out the back of a C130...The following Christmas, I insisted that someone else get the "honor" .

i'm sorry that being charitable and doing your job was such an ordeal for you.

asshole.


Lay off, lot of jobs like that for the 'honor' aren't much fun. He did his duty, and that's what counts.


With that said, someone queue up that comic of the the different service branches and how they deal with how much it sucks when it rains. Nevermind, I'll get it.

d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net

/Just joshin' ya, USAF.
//mostly
 
2012-12-23 10:34:35 PM  
You should consider dusting more often then, subby.
 
2012-12-23 10:36:53 PM  
Question: why does Micronesia have such an entitlement mentality?
 
2012-12-23 10:44:02 PM  

It's Me Bender: The_Original_Roxtar: i'm sorry that being charitable and doing your job was such an ordeal for you.

I think the point of his story was that "escorting" a box of gifts was a useless waste of time, considering that the transport's crewmen could have shove the box out the back of the plane themselves.


Yep you get the point... My job didnt require me to fly often and other squadron members were envious that I got a free plane ride... I just made sure they got the chance the following Christmas
 
2012-12-23 10:48:53 PM  
Came for people trying to make a goodwill gesture be a bad thing and leaving satisfied.
 
2012-12-23 10:50:47 PM  

USAF Retired: I was stationed on Guam in the 90's... one year I was selected to escort the box full of gifts that was sponsored by my squadron... It was supposed to be a honor to be selected ... Well I spent a miserable, cold 9 hour, round trip flight, just to put on a harness and push a box out the back of a C130...The following Christmas, I insisted that someone else get the "honor" .


From Subby; I'm sorry you felt that helping people was so out of your boundaries that it was a hardship on yourself. Personally, my transportation unit dropped off over 50 pairs of shoes en route to kuwait from Baghdad around Scania(look it up).
 
2012-12-23 10:57:03 PM  

dickfreckle: America, it's nice to know you can still be a beacon of hope.

 This was an awesome find, subby. I didn't realize this was still happening.


I first read that as Bacon

www.theweem.com
 
2012-12-23 11:15:43 PM  
How about landing some doctors, dentists, etc...and starting a clinic. As well as a small industrial business, such as canning fish? At least they would have some kind of income.
 
2012-12-23 11:19:13 PM  

PsychoLaurie: One thing to remember though is historically, we have used these islands for target practice. There is a huge number of Micronesians living in Honolulu who receive free health care... It's a weird situation because we do owe them for ruining their islands & health in the middle of the last century. There is a great deal of prejudice toward Micronesians in Honolulu.

Here's more on the free health care situation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3254229/


So how many generations exactly do they get this free treatment before its A. go back or B. become citizens?
 
2012-12-23 11:24:05 PM  

TOG85: USAF Retired: I was stationed on Guam in the 90's... one year I was selected to escort the box full of gifts that was sponsored by my squadron... It was supposed to be a honor to be selected ... Well I spent a miserable, cold 9 hour, round trip flight, just to put on a harness and push a box out the back of a C130...The following Christmas, I insisted that someone else get the "honor" .

From Subby; I'm sorry you felt that helping people was so out of your boundaries that it was a hardship on yourself. Personally, my transportation unit dropped off over 50 pairs of shoes en route to kuwait from Baghdad around Scania(look it up).


Holy shiat! Fifty whole pairs of shoes! Somebody call up Time and tell them to pull their Person of the Year Issue, because they got it wrong. Let's all give thanks to TOG85! Hell let's all give him a blowjob while we're at it, and don't forget the reach around for Fark's greatest hero of all time. Seriously, you are the greatest person on Earth and we should all strive to be like you! When my kids grow up I can only hope they'll be half as great as you! Hell, I'm not even going to have kids now, because there's no way they could ever measure up to such a selfless human being.
 
2012-12-23 11:25:59 PM  

duffblue: TOG85: USAF Retired: I was stationed on Guam in the 90's... one year I was selected to escort the box full of gifts that was sponsored by my squadron... It was supposed to be a honor to be selected ... Well I spent a miserable, cold 9 hour, round trip flight, just to put on a harness and push a box out the back of a C130...The following Christmas, I insisted that someone else get the "honor" .

From Subby; I'm sorry you felt that helping people was so out of your boundaries that it was a hardship on yourself. Personally, my transportation unit dropped off over 50 pairs of shoes en route to kuwait from Baghdad around Scania(look it up).

Holy shiat! Fifty whole pairs of shoes! Somebody call up Time and tell them to pull their Person of the Year Issue, because they got it wrong. Let's all give thanks to TOG85! Hell let's all give him a blowjob while we're at it, and don't forget the reach around for Fark's greatest hero of all time. Seriously, you are the greatest person on Earth and we should all strive to be like you! When my kids grow up I can only hope they'll be half as great as you! Hell, I'm not even going to have kids now, because there's no way they could ever measure up to such a selfless human being.


Im more curious, did u drop them at random on the way? Like one pair every 100km?
 
2012-12-23 11:33:16 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: How about landing some doctors, dentists, etc...and starting a clinic. As well as a small industrial business, such as canning fish? At least they would have some kind of income.


how would they get their cans of fish to market?
 
2012-12-23 11:34:47 PM  
dickfreckle: Uh, I would guess that the islanders are managing to feed their families would be a good starting point. Not everyone lives in a comparable paradise dotted with cheap fast-food, jerk.

I realize that not everyone lives near fast food, and thank you for your polite discourse. I'm not suggesting we stop doing this, nor am I b#tching about it. My point was that after 60+ years of these folks wading out into the surf to collect floating sky presents, the idea of relying upon random free stuff is pretty well ingrained in their culture and we can probably write off the idea of them being "self sufficient" any time soon. Also, it seems weird to me that we toss these people occasional supply packages like we're throwing donuts to bears in a rundown circus.
 
2012-12-23 11:38:27 PM  
Im more curious, did u drop them at random on the way? Like one pair every 100km?

No, we waited til we came upon a village near a base along our route where small children gathered and dropped the shoes there. We normally dropped food and water from our trucks, but decided that shoes would help as well that day.
 
2012-12-23 11:42:41 PM  
duffblue: Stuff

I'm drunk, but that still doesn't excuse me from saying that if I were to meet you I'd beat the living shiat out of you for being a bad person ... die in a fire, farktard, god save your soul if you cross my path. What is your excuse for being an asshole?
 
2012-12-23 11:46:15 PM  
More footage of the operations (from the perspective of those aloft) without narration and without visiting a *.mil site to watch an embedded YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-kQAfbemr0
 
2012-12-23 11:53:06 PM  
more fark abuse of the hero tag.
 
2012-12-23 11:58:26 PM  
who pays for this and why?

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2011/08/exclusive-us-ai r -force-combat.html

the squadron collects, let's call it a few hundred bucks of stuff to deliver to the natives and the taxpayer is stuck for, let's call it $15,000 per hour to deliver it.

the hero in the squadron would point out that this is ...
- a waste of money
- inconsistently applied
- going to people who are not in dire straits
- potentially an establishment clause conflict
 
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