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2012-12-23 06:29:18 PM

dslknowitall: Actually in the month we've had ours my kids won't allow me to play the old Wii anymore, all they want is Nintendo Land on the WiiU every night (I play while wife cooks dinner). To be honest I've found myself liking the whole separate screen on the controller a lot more than I expected. Means I can play two player easier with my 5 year old, and also walk away to do stuff while we play games together.

The update thing sucks though. I posted this on my FB earlier today saying I bet 5 bucks the servers are gonna tank on xmas day. It wasn't "rage quit" levels when I set it up but it was waaaaaaay to long for what was supposed to be a finished product.


So this year everyone will be up Xmas Eve downloading updates,
...until the servers crash at least!
 
2012-12-23 06:29:56 PM

1000 Ways to Dye: It's worth noting that this does apply to other systems as well. If you buy a new system, it was probably put in a box prior to the most recent updates.


You're telling me.  I recently repurchased my PS3 (last one got stolen) and it felt like I went thru over an hour of updates before I could play anything recent.  Hell, most games I picked up nowadays always require an update.
 
2012-12-23 06:32:52 PM
Where is the PS4 .... where?

/ pissed off Sony sotckholder
// not as pissed off as all the 20-somethings with SONY points Visa cards
 
2012-12-23 06:32:53 PM

bob_ross: Eh the Wii was fun for a hot minute.  Only game that was memorable was 4p Mario with the neighbors.  Probably never buying another Nintendo system again.

/SFC was the best system ever though.


I feel you but I also think that with the increased resolution afforded by the WiiU will make playing what are known as Wii type games less of a chore unto themselves. Which is what prevented me from playing some of the great games the Wii had, it looked like shiat on all my monitors and TVs, couldn't read the text from the couch. But the first party and a fair amount of RPGs as I see it, are excellent. And I'm okay with that. Especially if I can play them on the gamepad exclusively (maybe? hopefully? :), I tend to wind down the night playing some mario on the 3ds anyways so bringing a more robust Nintendo experience to the couch would be great.
 
2012-12-23 06:35:08 PM
Why dont those lazy assholes update it before they ship it? WTF? I have thought on and off about a wii but knowing the company is too lazy to even make sure an up to date unit is shipped doesnt make me eager to buy one.
 
2012-12-23 06:35:11 PM

Mad_Radhu: PsyLord: I still see units sitting on the shelf at the local Walmart today. I'm guessing the Wii U is not a must have Xmas present.

Yeah, from what I read, the Xbox is close to outselling both Wiis combined for the holiday season, which us odd because you'd think the Xbox market would long be saturated, but it still keeps selling like crazy. Price-wise it isn't even that much less than the Wii U if you get the Kinect versions, so it's not like people are getting it to save a few bucks.


Yeah everyone I know has had bad luck with longevity and the X-Box. I don't understand what happened I still have an original Nintendo my brother and I got for Xmas in 1986 that still works fine, not to mention my SNES from the early 90's. I'm guessing it probably has to do with planned obsolescence and or the use of the cheapest components available.
 
2012-12-23 06:37:23 PM

elchip:
I've been told that the ps3 is generally the best console of the generation. The best exclusives and a large library. The price has come down a lot since 2006.


It's a great blu-ray player. Pretty much all we use it for.
 
2012-12-23 06:39:15 PM
I hope I'm not jinxing myself by saying this, but my Dreamcast is still alive and well, too. I still fire it up occasionally to play Record of Lodoss War. I wonder if Sega raided the Nintendium mines when they were manufacturing that particular console.
 
2012-12-23 06:40:57 PM

spiralscratch: Singleballtheory: "Oh boo-hoo! Its taking like a full minute for this update to download! Lame!"

This is precisely why people on my Xmas list will be getting a vintage c64 and a stack of 5 1/4 floppies for their gaming needs. THEN they'll know real pain...


Slowest goddamn disk drive ever:

LOAD "*",8,1

*go get some lunch*

*come back and play game*


I'm willing to kick in my old Atari 800 with the cassette drive.
 
2012-12-23 06:41:38 PM

gaspode: Anyone who buys a console or computer and doesnt update it before christmas is a dumbass.

However I gather the startup patch is pretty huge in this case.


This.

The same goes for buying handheld electronics and not charging the battery first. Nothing like having a kid open up a DS/psp/tablet and having to wait 12 hours for the battery to fully charge before they can play with it.
 
2012-12-23 06:42:39 PM
1000 Ways to Dye: It's worth noting that this does apply to other systems as well. If you buy a new system, it was probably put in a box prior to the most recent updates

The difference is that the updates for the 360 or PS3 aren't humongous.

// Ok, the PS3 update takes a little while, but no where near what the WiiU takes. And xbox updates don't even give you enough time to go to the bathroom before they're done.
 
2012-12-23 06:49:21 PM

RogermcAllen: gaspode: Anyone who buys a console or computer and doesnt update it before christmas is a dumbass.

However I gather the startup patch is pretty huge in this case.

This.

The same goes for buying handheld electronics and not charging the battery first. Nothing like having a kid open up a DS/psp/tablet and having to wait 12 hours for the battery to fully charge before they can play with it.


My father is 75, and I usually do it with his gifts too. I got him a basic laptop last year to use on the couch, and preloaded Ubuntu and configured his wireless before wrapping it.
 
2012-12-23 06:51:38 PM

lordargent: 1000 Ways to Dye: It's worth noting that this does apply to other systems as well. If you buy a new system, it was probably put in a box prior to the most recent updates

The difference is that the updates for the 360 or PS3 aren't humongous.

// Ok, the PS3 update takes a little while, but no where near what the WiiU takes. And xbox updates don't even give you enough time to go to the bathroom before they're done.



Have you never seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ8NhxD0-Ek
 
2012-12-23 06:56:46 PM
dslknowitall : Have you never seen this?

Like I said, PS3 updates take a while. Although I own one, I'm not a big fan of said console. (I bought on the cheap from someone who didn't use it, so that I could play a small handful of exclusives).

// my favorite is how after you've downloaded a demo, you then have to INSTALL the demo in order to play it. The PS3 has some really farked up file management going on.
 
2012-12-23 06:57:55 PM

danknerd: Does anyone have anything positive to say about the Wii U for someone on the fence?


I was skeptical about the tablet controller, but it's not just a gimmick, and adds some nice gameplay innovations.

The kids really like Super Mario Bros. U, and Nintendoland.

If you have a large Wii library, you can still play those games on the Wii U. Your game save files, WiiWare purchases and any WiiWarecredits you might have can be transferred to the Wii U, but the data is deleted from the Wii when you do so. Our Wii's optical drive was starting to make funny noises, so it was a no-brainer to transfer everything over to the Wii U.

I haven't bothered playing with the Wii U much, too much time occupied by X-COM and Borderlands 2. When Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate is released, I might kick the kids off the Wii U for a while, or maybe I'll buy the 3DS version (...and a 3DS).
 
2012-12-23 06:58:22 PM

elchip: What's the last must-have gadget that came out of Japan? The Wii, 7 years ago?

The ageing and decline of that country is very sad.


I think the declining spelling ability of the US population is sadder.

/aging
 
2012-12-23 07:06:34 PM

OregonVet: Meh, never give a gift that isn't ready out of the box. Hell, even an Ipad needs to suck on the corporate teat before being 100% the first time it's turned on.


Charge it up but dont register it to your account, that's just rude. Unless it's going to your kid, then you want them on your account, so you can watch what they do.

I like to put batteries in toys before wrapping them and charge anything that needs charging. Its a lot of work but makes Christmas morning and birthday parties much more enjoyable.

And every parent with a child under the age of 10 should have a pair of these at the ready on Christmas morning, to get into the damn packages:

www.jewelrytools.com
 
2012-12-23 07:07:07 PM
1. Don't really see the big deal. The first thing you do with any electronics today -- Blu-ray player, A/V receiver, TV, etc. -- is check for a firmware update.

2. Does the update really take that long that the kids cannot do it on X-mas morning?
 
2012-12-23 07:07:17 PM
"Dad, my Wii is not ready to play yet."

"JESUS, give it a farking minute, won't you?"

www.laughspin.com
 
2012-12-23 07:07:34 PM
ZombiU is really really fun. The games that let you play the full game on the Gamepad controller are also awesome. I also really like the Amazon Prime video feature that lets me hit a button to switch from the TV to the controller and take it with me to the living room. While watching the video on the TV the controller also displays IMDB information, which is awesome for those 'who the fark is that' moments.

Very happy with mine and think there's two more games under the tree.
 
2012-12-23 07:07:56 PM

danknerd: Does anyone have anything positive to say about the Wii U for someone on the fence?


I was skeptical, but picked one up because I am a casual gamer, a huge geek, and was curious.

It is unlike anything I have seen before. I have all 3 systems, and am blown away by the initial implementation of the control scheme. You really have to spend an hour with it to really get it, but then you will love it. I would say it has paid for itself already just from the drunken shenanigans with friends.

Little Inferno is... well um... yeah.
 
2012-12-23 07:08:24 PM

Akbar the Trappiste Monk: "Dad, my Wii is not ready to play yet."

"JESUS, give it a farking minute, won't you?"


Perfect
 
2012-12-23 07:10:38 PM
We got a Wii U. I was kind of skeptical, since I hadn't really read glowing reviews about it, but our kids are young and really wanted one since you can password protect your Mii (youngest is terrible about deleting save files.) We've already updated it (took about an hour or so,) and got the new Mario game for it. Haven't really seen much I'm interested in game wise yet, though. :/
 
2012-12-23 07:11:14 PM
Guess I know what I'll be doing tonight once the kids are asleep.
 
2012-12-23 07:12:05 PM

Arumat: I hope I'm not jinxing myself by saying this, but my Dreamcast is still alive and well, too. I still fire it up occasionally to play Record of Lodoss War. I wonder if Sega raided the Nintendium mines when they were manufacturing that particular console.


I beat rolw every year. I think I'll go mage-build this time.
 
2012-12-23 07:14:56 PM
Have all the Nintendo fanboys died of Diabetes II yet?
 
2012-12-23 07:17:35 PM

here to help: I'm also not particularly interested in online gaming. Just like playing the computer. Sooo... what say you oh ever wise and snarky Farkers?


I'm not sure if you got a reply for this yet or not, but I'd stick with the computer..
 
2012-12-23 07:17:52 PM

p4p3rm4t3: Back in my day...
[img339.imageshack.us image 800x592]


Were they made by Nintendo, too?
 
2012-12-23 07:31:19 PM
I love my Wii-U.. Console is fun as shiat and ZombiU is the best survival horror game I've ever played..
 
2012-12-23 07:31:33 PM
"Download" or perhaps "Update," but not "Upload" :)
 
2012-12-23 07:33:12 PM
Heh.... I've done that before with tech gifts.

Just wrapping up the installs on my son's new PC, too... he's still going to wait for all of his personal stuff to get transferred, but it's mostly complete and has all of the steam games he's recorded time with installed already, too.

Last year I updated the firmware on a Blu-ray player before giving it to my brother-in-law.
 
2012-12-23 07:36:51 PM

BeerGraduate: here to help: I'm also not particularly interested in online gaming. Just like playing the computer. Sooo... what say you oh ever wise and snarky Farkers?

I'm not sure if you got a reply for this yet or not, but I'd stick with the computer..


Yeah, figured Farkers would be all over that one. Oh well. Maybe I should just look around for USB controllers or something. I'm guessing PC games are still cheaper than console games anyway.
 
2012-12-23 07:38:34 PM
Any electronics such as toys must be tested thoroughly before handing them over to the kids anyway... obviously. :)
 
2012-12-23 07:44:09 PM

spawn73: danknerd: Does anyone have anything positive to say about the Wii U for someone on the fence?

It's unlikely to kill your cat.


This isn't as useful as one might think. If your console of choice is a Wii there is no pussy anywhere near your house anyway.
 
2012-12-23 07:45:09 PM
Hell, I just now got Mario Party 9. You kiddin' me?
 
2012-12-23 07:45:11 PM

here to help: Well here's an opportunity to ask you guys something I've been wanting to know.

I've been contemplating getting a console but haven't bought/owned/known jack about them since the SNES days.

What's the best bang for the buck? I'm thinking the X-Box thingy sounds about right because I've been using my PCs for the very little gaming I do.

Essentially I like FPS type stuff (specifically the CoD series... and yeah that I know that makes me sound like a drunken fratboy but screw you... I like shooting Nazis to decompress) but am interested in other formats too if.

I'm also not particularly interested in online gaming. Just like playing the computer. Sooo... what say you oh ever wise and snarky Farkers?


Wii: Good first party games, but 98% of third party games are shovelware. The system and games are cheap, if you're on a budget.

PS3: The online play is free and without ads, and no additional fees to use Hulu Plus or Netflix. Playstation Plus is $50 a year, but you get a bunch of free AAA titles right out the gate, and new free games every week. Awesome exclusive games like inFamous, Uncharted, God Of War, Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank, and Journey.

360: Don't have, so no comment.
 
2012-12-23 07:49:44 PM

here to help: Yeah, figured Farkers would be all over that one. Oh well. Maybe I should just look around for USB controllers or something. I'm guessing PC games are still cheaper than console games anyway.


Look for the 'Logitech Dual Action' for a versatile/durable/compatible controller (similar to ps2).
As far as FPS, nothing beats mouse and keyboard.
 
2012-12-23 07:49:47 PM
 
2012-12-23 07:50:20 PM

justGreg: This is a giant fail. Next thing you know other Christmas toys will ship with some assembly required. Then parents will be stuck staying up late the night before Christmas setting them up. The travesty.


So don't buy the latest gadgets from iKea..,

FTFA's comments:

done and done.
even installed Mario U for the kids before packing it back up


You get a console system which needs updates and needs to have games installed? Why not get a pc? All the supposed benefits of a console are gone. You have updates, installs, loading times and I wouldn't be surprised if there are viruses out there aimed at modified consoles in order to snoop on credit card information.

/piccer.nl
 
2012-12-23 07:51:37 PM

lordargent: 1000 Ways to Dye: It's worth noting that this does apply to other systems as well. If you buy a new system, it was probably put in a box prior to the most recent updates

The difference is that the updates for the 360 or PS3 aren't humongous.

// Ok, the PS3 update takes a little while, but no where near what the WiiU takes. And xbox updates don't even give you enough time to go to the bathroom before they're done.


I have a pretty fast connection, so my PS3 updates usually take just 5 minutes. There hasn't been as many updates lately as there was in the past, so I got that going for me.
 
2012-12-23 07:55:35 PM
To be honest I have a massive amount of schadenfreude for the Wii U. They released a platform that is only a minuscule hardware upgrade to the Xbox and PS3 while rehashing very simplistic games that have been done so many times before. Then they try and avoid scrutiny by pretending they somehow aren't really competing with anyone but themselves. This is not what most people want for the future of gaming. If developers devote resources for games that run on the lowest common denominator and that is equivalent to 5 year old technology then this is not good for the industry. If Nintendo was the only major gaming platform the industry would be looking at another crash circa 1983. Although as it stands Nintendo very well could go the way of Sega and the Dreamcast; release early with comparatively underpowered hardware and face doom two years laters.
 
2012-12-23 08:00:35 PM

peterthx: elchip: What's the last must-have gadget that came out of Japan? The Wii, 7 years ago?

The ageing and decline of that country is very sad.

I think the declining spelling ability of the US population is sadder.

/aging


Merriam-Webster says either will suffice, sorry in advance for the mobile link.

I've been typing in this thread with Swype, give me a little leeway :)
 
2012-12-23 08:01:47 PM
Pii-U.
 
2012-12-23 08:02:38 PM

Smackledorfer: Arumat: I hope I'm not jinxing myself by saying this, but my Dreamcast is still alive and well, too. I still fire it up occasionally to play Record of Lodoss War. I wonder if Sega raided the Nintendium mines when they were manufacturing that particular console.

I beat rolw every year. I think I'll go mage-build this time.


And that's exactly how I feel about Xenogears.
 
2012-12-23 08:07:54 PM

MayoSlather: To be honest I have a massive amount of schadenfreude for the Wii U. They released a platform that is only a minuscule hardware upgrade to the Xbox and PS3 while rehashing very simplistic games that have been done so many times before. Then they try and avoid scrutiny by pretending they somehow aren't really competing with anyone but themselves. This is not what most people want for the future of gaming. If developers devote resources for games that run on the lowest common denominator and that is equivalent to 5 year old technology then this is not good for the industry. If Nintendo was the only major gaming platform the industry would be looking at another crash circa 1983. Although as it stands Nintendo very well could go the way of Sega and the Dreamcast; release early with comparatively underpowered hardware and face doom two years laters.


Sega crashed and burned because they released on crappy gimmick after another.

The Activator? Think of the Kinect, but 20 years earlier and 20 times sh*ttier.
Sega CD? FMV + QTEs = SCD.
32X? You mean, I get to pay $150 so my Genesis games look slightly better? What a bargain!
Nomad? Hope you like changing your batteries every 2 hours!
Saturn? Paying $100 more than a PlayStation and getting almost no games at launch is SO AWESOME!
 
2012-12-23 08:10:14 PM

jst3p: spawn73: danknerd: Does anyone have anything positive to say about the Wii U for someone on the fence?

It's unlikely to kill your cat.

This isn't as useful as one might think. If your console of choice is a Wii there is no pussy anywhere near your house anyway.


A. Women who game on a hardcore level won't care if you have a wii.

B. Women who are casual may prefer a wii.

C. Women who don't game at all won't know.

D. Men who have what women really want can afford multiple systems.

I can't think of any type of female I've dated or met who would base their decision on type of console.

I can tell how little you know about the ladies for saying that though :P
 
2012-12-23 08:13:25 PM

BeerGraduate: Look for the 'Logitech Dual Action' for a versatile/durable/compatible controller (similar to ps2).
As far as FPS, nothing beats mouse and keyboard.


Right on. I'm a trackball guy myself and I am good with that and the keys but sometimes I wanna flop out on the couch and play if I'm burnt or my back is messing with me. Kind of why I wanted a console. I also don't really wanna clog my PC registry with too much gamer crud because I'm not sure if it will screw up my fancy work programs (they're finicky as all hell) but I can just create rollback points in case things get weird. Not sure how I'd work the cabling though.

Meh. I'll figure it out. Cheers.
 
2012-12-23 08:13:34 PM

MayoSlather: Although as it stands Nintendo very well could go the way of Sega and the Dreamcast; release early with comparatively underpowered hardware and face doom two years laters


Or maybe Nintendo has a different idea of what to do with gaming, instead of worrying about how shiny the water is they worry about how people actually play games and the various ways games can be played. Given the mountains of cash they have and that the Wii, not sure about WiiU, console sold at a profit from day one, seems they're doing something right.
 
2012-12-23 08:13:57 PM

MayoSlather: To be honest I have a massive amount of schadenfreude for the Wii U. They released a platform that is only a minuscule hardware upgrade to the Xbox and PS3 while rehashing very simplistic games that have been done so many times before. Then they try and avoid scrutiny by pretending they somehow aren't really competing with anyone but themselves. This is not what most people want for the future of gaming. If developers devote resources for games that run on the lowest common denominator and that is equivalent to 5 year old technology then this is not good for the industry. If Nintendo was the only major gaming platform the industry would be looking at another crash circa 1983. Although as it stands Nintendo very well could go the way of Sega and the Dreamcast; release early with comparatively underpowered hardware and face doom two years laters.


So you are saying the wiiu may become one of my favorite systems? I will buy one today.
 
2012-12-23 08:16:06 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: PS3: The online play is free and without ads, and no additional fees to use Hulu Plus or Netflix. Playstation Plus is $50 a year, but you get a bunch of free AAA titles right out the gate, and new free games every week. Awesome exclusive games like inFamous, Uncharted, God Of War, Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank, and Journey.


hmm... that'd be nice.
 
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