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(Talking Points Memo)   "If it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy," said crazy NRA head Wayne "Crazy" LaPierre   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2012-12-23 12:15:33 PM  
Well if he knows he's crazy, is he still crazy?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-23 12:26:23 PM  
Well, that and the whole "not regulating the guns bit".
 
2012-12-23 12:29:04 PM  
Then you'll have no problems with paying for them with taxes on gun and ammunition manufacturers

/you may need to shoot your little buddy Grover
 
2012-12-23 12:29:15 PM  
Well, we've been calling this moron crazy for the better part of a decade.
 
2012-12-23 12:32:37 PM  
We'll need armed guards at every shopping mall, movie theater, local park...heck, every street and home in America, if we really want to protect our children.

According to him, that is.

He's crazy.
 
2012-12-23 12:36:10 PM  

Lorelle: We'll need armed guards at every shopping mall, movie theater, local park...heck, every street and home in America


The Third Reich did that well.  We should adopt their methods.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-23 12:42:38 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Then you'll have no problems with paying for them with taxes on gun and ammunition manufacturers


The National Firearms Act did that with full-auto weapons, shotguns and silencers and it worked out just fine. It has stood up to constitutional challenge and you rarely hear of NFA weapons being used in crimes. Just add semi-auto weapons to title II of the NFA.
 
2012-12-23 12:43:25 PM  
Crazy people shouldn't play with guns Wayne.

Can we take his gun rights? Pretty please?
 
2012-12-23 12:43:43 PM  

oldernell: Lorelle: We'll need armed guards at every shopping mall, movie theater, local park...heck, every street and home in America

The Third Reich did that well.  We should adopt their methods.


Well, unemployment would plummet, at least

/if you really want the equivalent of a TSA agent with a gun in your house
 
2012-12-23 12:51:54 PM  
The GOP knows nothing more than how to double down on their stupid.

Guns are killing kids?  MOAR GUNS.
Pollution is a problem?  Less regulation so there's MOAR POLLUTION.
Oil prices are high and oil supply is declining?  DRILL MOAR HOLES, that'll solve everything.
Tax cuts aren't creating jobs?  MOAR TAX CUTS.

And if they're wrong every other time, how likely is it that the answer to guns killing kids is more guns?
 
2012-12-23 01:00:24 PM  
The thing is, the suggestion to put security in schools was by far the most sensible of the things he said about any of this. Take that as you will.
 
2012-12-23 01:09:02 PM  
I know I just shot you
But call me crazy...
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-23 01:09:19 PM  

make me some tea: The thing is, the suggestion to put security in schools was by far the most sensible of the things he said about any of this. Take that as you will.


Well, it changes the subject from gun control doesn't it?
 
2012-12-23 01:10:34 PM  
First, it's a government make-work program for the political right.
Second: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

This guy isn't just crazy, he's also stupid and ignorant. But mainly crazy.
 
2012-12-23 01:12:54 PM  
...on the other hand, perhaps it's an attempt to indicate more of the debate's focus should be on the inadequacies of US mental health care? Say, by indicating the benchmark of crazy that should result in the abrogation of the right to bear arms? Hm....
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-23 01:16:43 PM  

abb3w: ...on the other hand, perhaps it's an attempt to indicate more of the debate's focus should be on the inadequacies of US mental health care? Say, by indicating the benchmark of crazy that should result in the abrogation of the right to bear arms? Hm....


By being crazy enough to think that the second amendment has to do with something other than a well regulated militia?
 
2012-12-23 01:17:22 PM  
Many more kids die from drowning each year - hell, more kids die from furniture falling on them at home - than from mass shootings. The number of kids who die at home from gun accidents is much higher each year too. Even the number of kids who die each year from accidents involving school busses is usually higher than the number who die from mass shootings. So how about we get our priorities right for once?
 
2012-12-23 01:18:11 PM  
Worked well for Columbine.
 
2012-12-23 01:18:44 PM  

abb3w: ...on the other hand, perhaps it's an attempt to indicate more of the debate's focus should be on the inadequacies of US mental health care? Say, by indicating the benchmark of crazy that should result in the abrogation of the right to bear arms? Hm....


I can't shoot you with my brain.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-23 01:24:19 PM  

alkhemy: Many more kids die from drowning each year - hell, more kids die from furniture falling on them at home - than from mass shootings. The number of kids who die at home from gun accidents is much higher each year too. Even the number of kids who die each year from accidents involving school busses is usually higher than the number who die from mass shootings. So how about we get our priorities right for once?


Oh, well then.  We can't eliminate accidents so let's not do anything about crime.

Makes perfect sense.
 
2012-12-23 01:27:57 PM  

vpb: make me some tea: The thing is, the suggestion to put security in schools was by far the most sensible of the things he said about any of this. Take that as you will.

Well, it changes the subject from gun control doesn't it?


In some ways you might want to consider options other than just gun control. Because absurdly unrealistic proposals such as:

vpb: Just add semi-auto weapons to title II of the NFA.

are good for nothing but a laugh.
 
2012-12-23 01:29:23 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I know I just shot you
But call me crazy...




But here's a bullet,
Die now maybe?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-23 01:32:58 PM  

violentsalvation: vpb: make me some tea: The thing is, the suggestion to put security in schools was by far the most sensible of the things he said about any of this. Take that as you will.

Well, it changes the subject from gun control doesn't it?

In some ways you might want to consider options other than just gun control. Because absurdly unrealistic proposals such as: vpb: Just add semi-auto weapons to title II of the NFA. are good for nothing but a laugh.


Kind of a forced, nervous laugh I'm sensing.
 
2012-12-23 01:36:03 PM  
Crazy?  His bread is buttered by gun manufacturers.  He's only going to advocate policies that increase sales of firearms.  Evil? Maybe.  Crazy? Not a chance.
 
2012-12-23 01:40:48 PM  
Is it time to rise up against the tyrannical government yet?

Or should I just keep shooting pigs?
 
2012-12-23 01:44:17 PM  

vpb: violentsalvation: vpb: make me some tea: The thing is, the suggestion to put security in schools was by far the most sensible of the things he said about any of this. Take that as you will.

Well, it changes the subject from gun control doesn't it?

In some ways you might want to consider options other than just gun control. Because absurdly unrealistic proposals such as: vpb: Just add semi-auto weapons to title II of the NFA. are good for nothing but a laugh.

Kind of a forced, nervous laugh I'm sensing.


More of a robust chuckle accompanied by a facepalm with a simultaneous rolling of the eyes.

We won't even begin working to solve the gun-violence problem in America until the gun-rightsers and the gun-frightsers are willing to meet somewhere near reality.
 
2012-12-23 01:45:44 PM  

alkhemy: Many more kids die from drowning each year - hell, more kids die from furniture falling on them at home - than from mass shootings. The number of kids who die at home from gun accidents is much higher each year too. Even the number of kids who die each year from accidents involving school busses is usually higher than the number who die from mass shootings. So how about we get our priorities right for once?


Let me know when you can carry a swimming pool into a school and murder 20 six year olds with it
 
2012-12-23 01:46:17 PM  
More police in public schools? Sounds like another "small government" idea from yet another "small government" conservative. Who is going to pay for that?
 
2012-12-23 01:46:22 PM  
I can't know what to think until I hear from Ted Nugent. Why has he been so silent on this issue?
 
2012-12-23 01:46:28 PM  
Man alive, he just does not know when to shut up.
 
2012-12-23 01:47:30 PM  

alkhemy: Many more kids die from drowning each year - hell, more kids die from furniture falling on them at home - than from mass shootings. The number of kids who die at home from gun accidents is much higher each year too. Even the number of kids who die each year from accidents involving school busses is usually higher than the number who die from mass shootings. So how about we get our priorities right for once?


Listen.

You and your liberal "priority setting" can go elsewhere. What we need here is panic and riled-up empty rhetoric.
 
2012-12-23 01:47:52 PM  
It's not crazy to have armed guards when you are under armed assault. It's crazy that we let our schools be under armed assault when we don't farking have to.

Guards are not a solution, Presidents have been shot surrounded by the best armed guards on the planet.
 
2012-12-23 01:47:58 PM  
Yes, please, let's take more money out of the already cash-strapped education budget to put toward hiring rent-a-cops for the schools.
 
2012-12-23 01:49:11 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: alkhemy: Many more kids die from drowning each year - hell, more kids die from furniture falling on them at home - than from mass shootings. The number of kids who die at home from gun accidents is much higher each year too. Even the number of kids who die each year from accidents involving school busses is usually higher than the number who die from mass shootings. So how about we get our priorities right for once?

Listen.

You and your liberal "priority setting" can go elsewhere. What we need here is panic and riled-up empty rhetoric.


Yay! Maybe we'll get another expensive but useless war out of it like we did the last time!
 
2012-12-23 01:51:32 PM  

abb3w: Say, by indicating the benchmark of crazy that should result in the abrogation of the right to bear arms?


I also think that's a great area to focus on. But this isn't a one-dimensional problem. That's just one side of it. Buying bullets on the internet would also an issue. Any buying ammunition anywhere without a mental health background check. I'm not so much concerned about the gun part as I am about the ammunition deployment part.
 
2012-12-23 01:51:45 PM  
It was a stupid idea when Clinton proposed it, and it's a stupid idea now. The only amusing part is how nearly everyone on both sides of the aisle has flip flopped simply because a different party is now proposing the same thing.

Seriously though, do any of you people who flip flopped on this ever look at how easily you're manipulated by party labels?
 
2012-12-23 01:52:55 PM  
This is like those people who say "Hey, my parents did _______, and I turned out FINE!" from the other side of a prison door...
 
2012-12-23 01:53:16 PM  
You're a nutjob Wayne. And incompetent.
 
2012-12-23 01:55:29 PM  
And he kept digging.
 
2012-12-23 01:56:25 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: It was a stupid idea when Clinton proposed it, and it's a stupid idea now. The only amusing part is how nearly everyone on both sides of the aisle has flip flopped simply because a different party is now proposing the same thing.

Seriously though, do any of you people who flip flopped on this ever look at how easily you're manipulated by party labels?


Obviously not. Good catch, there, BTW.
 
2012-12-23 01:57:33 PM  
Double down! That always works.
 
2012-12-23 01:57:57 PM  

"YOU HAVE YET TO HAND IN YOUR GEOGRAPHY HOMEWORK. YOU HAVE 20 SECONDS TO RECTIFY."

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2012-12-23 01:58:11 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: It was a stupid idea when Clinton proposed it, and it's a stupid idea now. The only amusing part is how nearly everyone on both sides of the aisle has flip flopped simply because a different party is now proposing the same thing.

Seriously though, do any of you people who flip flopped on this ever look at how easily you're manipulated by party labels?


This sort of thing has lost its humor, tbh.
 
2012-12-23 01:59:06 PM  

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: alkhemy: Many more kids die from drowning each year - hell, more kids die from furniture falling on them at home - than from mass shootings. The number of kids who die at home from gun accidents is much higher each year too. Even the number of kids who die each year from accidents involving school busses is usually higher than the number who die from mass shootings. So how about we get our priorities right for once?

Let me know when you can carry a swimming pool into a school and murder 20 six year olds with it


i78.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-23 01:59:13 PM  
LaPierre isn't really helping his side, but is his suggestion really that crazy? My high school always had one police officer on duty all the time and I graduated years ago. Granted it was a big school in a suburban area, but it's not like this is some radical new concept.
 
2012-12-23 02:00:05 PM  
that's an insult to crazies
 
2012-12-23 02:01:04 PM  

Lorelle: We'll need armed guards at every shopping mall, movie theater, local park...heck, every street and home in America, if we really want to protect our children.

According to him, that is.

He's crazy.


There are armed guards in just about every shopping mall and large movie theater I've ever been to.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-23 02:01:22 PM  

Zeno-25: LaPierre isn't really helping his side, but is his suggestion really that crazy? My high school always had one police officer on duty all the time and I graduated years ago. Granted it was a big school in a suburban area, but it's not like this is some radical new concept.


No, it just isn't a solution to the problem.
 
2012-12-23 02:01:39 PM  
This from the same people that warned us that Obama was going to declare martial law...

Do they see the irony here?
 
2012-12-23 02:01:43 PM  

Alphax: And he kept digging.


LaPierre is learning how to breathe molten lava at the earth's core.
 
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